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  • Late February optional update, KB 4535996, released for Windows 10 1903 and 1909

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      • #2172293 Reply
        joep517
        AskWoody MVP

        The latest cumulative non-security update for the latest Windows 10 releases. See for a long list of changes and fixes.
        [See the full post at: Late February optional update, KB 4535996, released for Windows 10 1903 and 1909]

        --Joe

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      • #2172306 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        Note: There is a new SSU KB4538674 associated with Cumulative Updates KB4535996.

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        • #2172317 Reply
          abbodi86
          AskWoody_MVP

          It’s not new, it was released with Feb Sec CU KB4532693

          • #2172324 Reply
            PKCano
            Da Boss

            Ahhhh, I was looking at the wrong page of my notes.
            How right you are.
            Mea culpa!

      • #2172323 Reply
        Carl
        AskWoody Plus

        With Windows 10, are SSUs rolled up into CUs, or are they separate? Are they pushed separately to user’s computers as in Win 7 if using Windows Update?

        • #2172325 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          They are not listed in WU, but are released and installed with the CU.

          • #2172327 Reply
            Carl
            AskWoody Plus

            Thanks. I wasn’t sure – still trying to get up to speed here. This is what happens when one refuses to let go of their much loved Win 7 environment.

            • This reply was modified 6 months, 3 weeks ago by Carl.
          • #2172424 Reply
            migongo
            AskWoody Lounger

            By the way does anyone know why Microsoft is releasing new SSU almost every month?

            • This reply was modified 6 months, 3 weeks ago by migongo.
            • #2172663 Reply
              abbodi86
              AskWoody_MVP

              They don’t, unless needed

              last SSU for pre-1903 Win10 versions are from November, likewise Win 8.1
              ver 2004 got 3 CUs so far, but none SSU

      • #2172332 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        What exactly does it mean for an optional update to be late like this?

        Is it an indication that they took the extra time to make it more reliable? Or an indication they spent all their time up to the last minute adding new patches and ended up being late?

        There certainly is a huge list of “Improvements and fixes” that makes me suspect the latter.

        • #2172336 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          This is a non-security Optional Install. The non-security part of the patch is for testing and the fixes will be rolled into the Patch Tues Security CU. It is like the Preview patches in Win7/8.1.

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      • #2172361 Reply
        bbearren
        AskWoody MVP

        Seeker/cannon fodder Check for updates:

        KB4537572 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64 was offered first.

        KB4535996 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based Systems was offered after KB4537572 was poised and waiting for restart.  Downloaded and installed it, also, before the restart.  Both were without incident; so far, so good.  Everything is running normally.

        Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
        "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
        "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

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        • #2172482 Reply
          bbearren
          AskWoody MVP

          Incidentally I’m now at Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.693).

          Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
          "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
          "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

      • #2172410 Reply
        r1ma
        AskWoody Plus

        It says on https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4535996/windows-10-update-kb4535996:

        “Updates an issue that prevents the Windows Search box from rendering properly.”

        So does this fix  File Explorer crashes?

         

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        • #2172465 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          If you mean the problems with File Explorer Search — I believe those were fixed with this month’s original cumulative update.

          This appears to be a different problem, limited to the Search box. I think.

        • #2172486 Reply
          bbearren
          AskWoody MVP

          So does this fix File Explorer crashes?

          I haven’t had any File Explorer crashes, and I haven’t used the Search box in File Explorer since the last time I wrote about it here.

          I just tried it for right-click Paste, and that’s been fixed; I just don’t know when, since I only use search every couple of months to look for *.tmp files to delete.

          Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
          "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
          "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

      • #2172412 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        A long list of fixes but not a word regarding KB4532693’s temp profiles / erasing data.

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        • #2172466 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          It looks like MS will never acknowledge the problem.

          Big question is whether they fixed it.

          • #2172505 Reply
            EP
            AskWoody_MVP

            “Big question is whether they fixed it.”

            I don’t think so, woody
            that’s another good reason to skip this new update

            • This reply was modified 6 months, 3 weeks ago by EP.
            • #2172609 Reply
              woody
              Da Boss

              Everything I’ve seen says they’ve fixed it.

              Have you seen something different?

      • #2172461 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        KB4535996 says:
        Updates an issue that prevents the printer settings user interface from displaying properly

        Finally, a fix for the standard user printer settings issue that has been with us since release of 1903.

        This fix followed a pattern for some past bugs where the fix wasn’t issued until the next feature update was near release. Had hoped for a fix with 1909 but then that wasn’t a true feature update!

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      • #2172499 Reply
        tijsco
        AskWoody Plus

        A visitor of my Dutch website is reporting that KB4535996 is causing troubles again with temporary profiles and disappeared mail, apps and folders. Just like the problems with KB4532693. I now asked my visitors to report this kind of problems. Hopefully it’s not the same disaster again…

        Here is my article (in Dutch, also about KB4537818 for 1809, but troubles are with KB4535996):

        https://www.gratissoftwaresite.nl/nieuws-kb4537818-windows-10-1909-1903-1809-optioneel-update-tussentijds

        And here is the comment from the visitor:

        https://www.gratissoftwaresite.nl/comment/58528#comment-58528

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        • #2172538 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          Oy.

          Will they ever learn?

        • #2174163 Reply
          tijsco
          AskWoody Plus

          Another visitor of my website is reporting the temporary profile issues after installing KB4535996. Looks like the issues aren’t resolved yet.

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      • #2172843 Reply
        John782
        AskWoody Plus

        On my W10 build 1909 pc,  this is given as an optional update (I didn’t download or install it),  but on my pc with build 1903, it wasn’t listed as an optional update , but as a required update. Is there any way on 1903 to specify optional updates from required updates? I’m still relatively new to W10 coming from W7.   Thanks!

        • #2172952 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          For Windows Update, the important (Security) updates are the ones released on Patch Tuesday. The optional (non-Security) updates are the ones released on C, D, or E weeks.

          That is the same as it was in Win7/8.1 with the SMQRs released on Patch Tues, and the “Previews” released at other times.

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      • #2174250 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        I saw a similar pattern. The optional update was offered on my 1909 machine, but not on 1903.

        Same thing happened last month. I believe it’s intentional.

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      • #2175871 Reply
        rwolfor
        AskWoody Plus

        Well, I followed some of the suggestions for resolving the KB…. temporary desktop issue. One suggestion was to install all the February updates and the problem resolution for the bad KBs was straight forward. So I resumed the updates, ran “wushowhide.diagcab” to block KB4532693 and reinstalled the updates I had uninstalled the day before. After rebooting and logging in, the temporary desktop had returned. Another suggestion for fixing the KB4532693 desktop issue was to boot into Safe Mode and reboot to standard mode. This did not restore my standard desktop. I had to uninstall KB4532693 to restore the standard desktop. I went into the Windows Update screen to pause the updates. Displaying was an optional update KB4535996. I installed this update and got the temporary desktop again. I tried the Safe Mode fix again, but this did not restore the standard desktop. Had to uninstall this KB too.

        My PC runs Windows 10 Pro, release 1909, Build 18363, x64.

        From what I’ve read, Microsoft has been aware of this problem for over 3 weeks yet neglects to pull the defective updates from the update distribution channel. Very Sad!!

      • #2176837 Reply
        John782
        AskWoody Plus

        I saw a similar pattern. The optional update was offered on my 1909 machine, but not on 1903.

        Same thing happened last month. I believe it’s intentional.

        Maybe it’s a planned strategy to get those of us who are using 1903 to switch to 1909.

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