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      • #2352081
        Brian Livingston
        AskWoody MVP

        LinkedIn — the foremost social network for working professionals, with 760 million members in more than 200 countries — constantly changes the format of its PDF résumés to make it hard for companies to search for possible job applicants, according to human-resource consultants.

        [See the full post at: LinkedIn deliberately scrambles résumé PDFs, experts say]

        • This topic was modified 2 weeks, 5 days ago by Will Fastie.
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      • #2352096
        rc primak
        AskWoody_MVP

        The graphics for this article in the Newsletter and here at AskWoody are the wrong images. They are leftovers from last week’s article. Please fix.

        So what was the injunction mentioned in the article actually trying to prevent? Was it trying to prevent screen-scraping of the Linked-In site contents, or was it proven that this is a deliberate attempt to thwart resume scanners? Ethically and legally, there would be a huge difference. The loss of HR software’s ability to scan resumes might be just an unintended side-effect of an attempt to protect the site’s proprietary content.

        “I recommend that people make their own PDF résumé and attach it to their profile.”

        Best advice in the entire article. No need for accusations against Linked-In if users do their due diligence.

        -- rc primak

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        • #2352136
          Microfix
          AskWoody MVP

          Not only Linkedin then..even on askwoody newsletters LOL
          Rodium, Palladium and Platinum LinkedOut!

          never had the inclination to use linkedin, more self gratification and lies like all other social media junkware.
          I’ll bet if recruiting HR depts actually checked their credentials, most would be fired on deception.

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        • #2352531
          anonymous
          Guest

          So that’s what those are! I thought someone had hacked the email!

           

      • #2352113
        Fred
        AskWoody Plus

        Peculiar this email was placed in the Gmail-Spam.
        Don’t know why.
        ? Maybe it’s so massive/volumineus and filled with a whole lot of links and pictures, so miles away of the safe txt-only?

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        • #2352253
          rc primak
          AskWoody_MVP

          Yahoo does a better job of not screening too heavily. But they are worse on letting spam through. It’s a delicate balance. Everyone should be checking our spam folders every so often.

          -- rc primak

          • #2352406
            Fred
            AskWoody Plus

            good advice, thank you.
            but my point was that sending “heavy” emails like that is just asking for being spammed-out; and that’s not my fault, I just fished it out of the spam, that’s all.
            my private answer to the sender was placed in this section, and that’s weird.
            deleting texts and not answering help-email at all is unpolite.

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            • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 5 days ago by Fred.
      • #2352123
        OscarCP
        AskWoody Plus

        I have been invited to join Linkedin a few times already. The first time, maybe 15 years ago, I said to myself “OK, I’ll open an account there.”

        So I started doing that, and entered the usual information, a password, etc., then hit return, or something like that. But the thing was not quite done:  next I got a request to add the password to my email account.

        I said to myself “No way!” and right away cancelled my brand-new account. I have never again had anything to do with them and, apparently, I have managed just fine without Linkedin. I wonder if they are still doing that. Quite frankly, to me it was as if they were waving a sign in front of me, where written in big red letters it read: “Keep off this thing for your own good!!!!”

        And that’s my own Linkedin story.

        Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

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        • #2352135
          PKCano
          Manager

          Linkedin is Microsoft.
          Users’ data collection and account consolidation across sites is a certainty

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          • #2352254
            rc primak
            AskWoody_MVP

            Ah, so they are using the Microsoft Account! And they are asking for your Microsoft Account Password only. It’s a Single Sign On (SSO) thing. Thanks for the clarification LinkedIn seems to leave out. (:rolleyes: at LinkedIn — again!)

            -- rc primak

            • #2352322
              OscarCP
              AskWoody Plus

              Actually, rc primak, it was my email account. I don’t know if Linkedin was part of MS all those years ago, but the request had nothing to do with MS accounts.

              Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

              • #2353665
                rc primak
                AskWoody_MVP

                Well, LinkedIn has always used your email address as your default login ID. So it is your LinkedIn account identifier.

                -- rc primak

              • #2353678
                OscarCP
                AskWoody Plus

                rc primak: “Well, LinkedIn has always used your email address as your default login ID. So it is your LinkedIn account identifier.”

                rc primak, please, read again my previous comments.

                This is not about my email address, this is about my email account password.

                And that is not something I would share with my mother, were she still alive, let alone with a bunch of unknowns such as whoever is running Linkedin. If you are comfortable sharing around your email account password, be my guest.

                Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

            • #2352719
              kstenbch
              AskWoody Lounger

              No Linked In was not a part of Microsoft, at least not when you first signed up, 15 years ago. Microsoft  bought out Linked In about 5 years ago. I have a free Linked in Account. I keep a copy of my resume there, but I am listed as employed, not looking currently. I was  asked when I signed up to create an account and a password. I attached my email address as my user name, not as a part of my password. My email address is only part of my Linked In Account in one respect. I get notifications about certain things. I can check a list on what I want to get email notifications about. I do get periodic emails or notifications in my email or on Linked In to get a premium [paid] account. Perhaps I will someday, but I haven’t taken advantage of that yet, not even with free trial offers. I check in on Linked In, monthly so that announcements of a contacts work anniversary or new job don’t get ignored, mostly because it’s rude to completely ignore a contact you requested to connect with or approved.

              • #2352776
                OscarCP
                AskWoody Plus

                kstenbch: Thanks for confirming that Linkedin was not part of MS when I tried to create an account and then close it right away, because I was asked to include my email account password. My email address was asked for as well, of course, but being asked for this address was not the problem for me, being asked for the password to my email account was the problem.

                And once burned, twice shy. So, since that day and until the far and indefinite future: no Linkedin for me.

                Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

      • #2352171
        Will Fastie
        Manager

        The graphics for this article in the Newsletter and here at AskWoody are the wrong images. They are leftovers from last week’s article. Please fix.

        The images have been updated and are now correct. This was my error, for which I apologize.

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      • #2352317
        anonymous
        Guest

        So, why is LinkedIn doing this? I thought the whole reason for LI’s existence is to facilitate exchange/dissemination of professional expertise/qualifications. What am i missing?

        • #2352387
          wdburt1
          AskWoody Plus

          Interesting example of the tug of war between producers and consumers.

          Producer says: Our purpose is to serve you, the consumer.  In this case, to facilitate your job search, etc.

          Reality:  Our purpose is to be paid as much as possible for doing as little as possible, otherwise known as “get something for nothing.”  In today’s world, don’t assume that you, the consumer, are the only source of revenue.

          Consumer says:   My purpose is to get something of value and pay as little as possible.

          Reality:  I too want something for nothing.

          So it’s a struggle, like it has always been.

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          • #2352392
            OscarCP
            AskWoody Plus

            wodburt1: ” So it’s a struggle, like it has always been.

            Yes, and also pretty one-sided struggle in this and in many other cases of a big seller vs. its may individual, isolated customers with not a lot of lawyers at their disposal and usually having to renounce their right to take legal action when accepting the terms of the EULA before being entitled to use the service, it seems to me.

            Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)

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        • #2352418
          anonymous
          Guest

          The point is when this becomes widely known, wouldn’t people stop using LinkedIn, because it’s obviously not serving the purpose it was created for. They’re shooting themselves in the foot. I’m still not seeing the case for this behaviour. Someone please enlighten me.

      • #2352405
        Fred
        AskWoody Plus

        I have been invited to join Linkedin a few times already. The first time, maybe 15 years ago, I said to myself “OK, I’ll open an account there.”

        So I started doing that, and entered the usual information, a password, etc., then hit return, or something like that. But the thing was not quite done:  next I got a request to add the password to my email account.

        I said to myself “No way!” and right away cancelled my brand-new account. I have never again had anything to do with them and, apparently, I have managed just fine without Linkedin. I wonder if they are still doing that. Quite frankly, to me it was as if they were waving a sign in front of me, where written in big red letters it read: “Keep off this thing for your own good!!!!”

        And that’s my own Linkedin story.

        My reply to you has been wiped, as usual. It was a user story with negative experiences with LinkedIn. Perhaps that’s too much?
        Furthermore:
        The original email announcing this item was placed in the spambox by gmail, after putting it in the normal in-box I replied to “FreeNewsletter [@] AskWoody.com” and “customersupport [@] askwoody.com”
        Guess what: my privately written email was placed here in this chit-chat chapter,
        so much for privacy then.
        Now all is deleted without any politeness or courtesy of a a reply-email what ever.
        Peculiar!.

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      • #2352442
        Fred
        AskWoody Plus

        Explain please? There is no email reply posted in that article as I received it at Yahoo Web Mail, either in the original or in the revised version.

        Note: I am a paid subscriber, so this observation only applies to the Paid Editions.

        • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 5 days ago by rc primak.

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        this is a screenshot of the email-reply sent from me to you; only the last part(s) of my full familyname is erased by me (just not ment to be published here)
        It was a private email, as a reply to the sender “FreeNewsletter [@] Askwoody.com” + a cc. to
        “customersupport [@] askwoody.com”

        Perhaps it is/was very unthoughtful of me to expect some email-return.
        I think it still is very peculiar
        Greetings,    Respectfully ~~etc etc, Fred

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        • #2352456
          Paul T
          AskWoody MVP

          Are you sure you want your email in that image?

          cheers, Paul

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          • #2352457
            Fred
            AskWoody Plus

            [@] Paul-T
            ofcourse not…. sorry
            ; thank you for being so observant, very unthoughtful of me

            Screenshot_20210323-063302_3nd

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          • #2352481
            Fred
            AskWoody Plus

            [@] Paul-T  can you remove the attached picture in post-2352442 as well , please; thanks!

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      • #2353985
        TXWizard_2018
        AskWoody Plus

        The last time I checked, LinkedIn was a private network that owes its allegiance to its paying members to respect their privacy first. If I want recruiters to have my CV, I am now, and always have been, free to post a PDF laid out exactly the way I want the ATS to see it. With that in mind, my CV has been in my profile as a PDF since the year the service opened, and accounts were by invitation. That’s how long I’ve had one.

        I think they are on solid ground in deliberately making it hard for the goons employed by the recruiters and HR departments to do their dirty work. Note  that the recruiters and HR departments aren’t doing the work themselves; they hired a contractor, as much as anything to shield them from liability. Maybe it’s time to bring back the legal doctrine of agency.

        David A. Gray

        Designing for the Ages, One Challenge at a Time

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      • #2352256
        rc primak
        AskWoody_MVP

        Explain please? There is no email reply posted in that article as I received it at Yahoo Web Mail, either in the original or in the revised version.

        Note: I am a paid subscriber, so this observation only applies to the Paid Editions.

        -- rc primak

        • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 5 days ago by rc primak.
        2 users thanked author for this post.
      • #2352452
        Fred
        AskWoody Plus

        Explain please? There is no email reply posted in that article as I received it at Yahoo Web Mail, either in the original or in the revised version.

        Note: I am a paid subscriber, so this observation only applies to the Paid Editions.

        • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 5 days ago by rc primak.

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        [@] rc-primak :   please see  #2352442
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        still I don’t understand why my original reply to OscarCP #post-2352123 was deleted. It was just my personal experience with LinkedIn
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        • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 4 days ago by Fred. Reason: trying to keep it short, and not in Swedish or so
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