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    Windowsfx was developed for users who have computers that used Microsoft Windows 7 and cannot run Windows 10 or 11. New computers with weak processors and low memory are also supported.

    Support x86 64bits PC — Run on 2GB RAM

    Windowsfx 11 Preview

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    • #2390872

      ? says:

      thanks, alex. from Sao Paulo Brazil SA. comes in two flavours, free edition and for only $20.00 US a fully loaded win11 emulating professional version:

      https://www.windowsfx.org/index.php/release-news/windowsfx-operating-system

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    • #2390917

      “Cygwin” used to be, and maybe still is, another possibility: a Windows application that is a complete LINUX emulator. I did use it extensively with Windows 7. Over the years, there have been different applications like this. There have been also applications for Windows that implement some handy LINUX/UNIX ones, such as the text editor VI, that can process huge files very quickly, and the really useful file sorter and manipulator AWK. These are used mostly in line-command mode.

      Ex Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7) since mid-2020. Now: running macOS Big Sur 11.6 & sometimes, Linux (Mint)

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      Waterfox "Current" and (now and then) Chrome. also Intego AV and Malwarebytes for the Mac.

    • #2390916

      Hard to tell but Microsoft Windows 11 own interface does look like a combination of Microsoft’s own tech, and possible imitation* of KDE and GNOME desktop environment elements. (*It is a truth that people can have have the same ideas without ever knowing about another group’s or person’s project.)

      Windowsfx looks like a customized version of Ubuntu with a new KDE Plasma/GNOME theme with preferred applications, and it will hopefully behave better than Microsoft Windows.

      • #2391050

        Bad ideas multiply as much as good ones 😡😝

        🍻

        Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
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    • #2391220

      Windows 10 Pro version 21H2 build 19044.1320 + Microsoft 365 (group ASAP)

      • #2391252

        I am waiting for Microsoft’s Cease and Desist letter.

        • #2391272

          Spill… what have you done now? 🙂

      • #2391265

        Windowsfx = no feature updates, telemetry or dodgy patches with stability from debian, mint and kde..anyone can create the look of Win11 in linux with the know how.

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    • #2391273

      anyone can create the look of Win11

      The look of Windows 11 and the name ‘Windows’ are protected by copyright.

      • #2391487

        Apple sued Microsoft in 1988 and later 1994 (along with Hewlett-Packard) over looks (and feel) and was largely ruled against both times, maybe we’ll get to find out what user interface parts are really unique.

    • #2391317

      I satisfied enough with Linux Mint on all my older Windows 7 laptops and I’m dual booting there but the laptops are not allowed online when booted into Windows 7. If one takes the time to consider that under Linux that Older Intel hardware is still getting graphics driver/graphics API support there long after MS has dropped support under Windows 7 so there are versions of Blender 3D 2.8/Above that refuse to run on any of my Intel Sandy Bridge generation laptops when booted into Windows 7 that will if booted into Linux Mint run Blender 3D 2.8/later fine for the most part.

      I find that Linux Mint is close enough to Windows and better in most ways there for Updates and other things aw well.

       

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    • #2391429

      A few points not mentioned in Jack Wallen’s review (Windowsfx is the Linux distribution Windows users have been looking for [TechRepublic.com]):

      1. Installation for all of the Windows compatibility components: Jack mentions this can take “30-60 minutes (depending on the speed of your network)” for the components used for the Wine layer.

      Hmmm… and the rest…

      Anyone who has ever used the Wayback Machine knows that downloads from web.archive.org are painfully slow, e.g. Windows 7 Service Pack 1 took nearly 1.5 hours.

      My installation of the components took over 3.5 hours in total, not helped that new component installer screens often kept appearing *behind* the commandline console window used to show progress… so I was often unaware that another component was ready for installation.

      2. Network discovery: This is the first Linux distro I have used where – out-of-the box – I was able to discover, connect to and browse shared resources on Windows devices across my LAN with *no* configuration whatsoever.

      I just opened the Dolphin file explorer, scrolled to the Network entry in the left-hand navigation pane then – in the right-hand pane – clicked on the Shared Folders (SMB) icon and the Windows devices appeared.

      network_authentication

      Once I had authenticated to each Windows device (by entering the account/password combo), that was it… browse heaven of shared resources across the LAN. So easy!

      Note: Windows devices need SMB1 enabled for this to work… which I have, due to other older equipment in use.

      Note: The Network entry also shows Bluetooth and MTP Devices icons.

      (Note: IMO the Dolphin file manager is one of the most useful and intuitive file managers that I’ve every used… and uses tabs!)

      3. Internet browser: Firefox and Google Chrome are both installed by default… but – to my surprise – so is Edge… and it’s the only browser both pinned by default to the panel (Taskbar) and shown in the Start menu.

      edge_available

      (It’s also strange to see PowerShell installed by default.)

      4. Free edition notification: A popup notification appears every single time you start Windowsfx. I haven’t yet found a way of disabling this.

      free_version_popup

      5. Battery life: I used two identical Dell Latitude E7450 laptops side-by-side, one running Windows 10, the other Windowsfx. Even the battery MTBF percentage (i.e. before the battery can no longer accept a charge and needs replacement) is almost identical (80%/81% respectively). From full charge, the laptop running Windowsfx lasted nearly 3 hours longer than the one running Windows 10.

      6. Virtual desktops: By default there are 4 configured… and quite by chance I discovered that a 2-finger swipe up or down on the trackpad scrolled through the desktops. The scrolling is impressively smooth.

      7. Wi-Fi: The Windowsfx wi-fi client connects much faster then the Windows 10 wi-fi client on an identical laptop – almost instantly.

      8. Updates: Windowsfx has already shown several available updates (all of which I’ve accepted). The Updates Notifier is efficient and the Updates Manager handles ‘Applications’, workspace UI (called ‘Plasma’) and ‘System’ updates all in the same dialog. A press of F5 initiates a check for updates, apparently across the board (without any updates being force-installed). It’s impressive.

      9. Remote access: Both AnyDesk and TeamViewer clients appear to be installed by default. However, clicking on TeamViewer only brings up Google Chrome‘s default search page. Here’s my Windows 10 laptop from the AnyDesk client running on the Windowsfx laptop. Just so, so easy.

      anydesk

      10: Phone: Unfortunately I couldn’t get it to recognise my iPhone and I don’t have an Android phone to test. If I remember, I’ll try again with a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 tablet I have (somewhere…).

      11. UI typos: Perhaps it’s just me but I find UI typos jarring. They spoil an otherwise very professional appearance. I’ve emailed the developer with  a couple that I’ve found.

      Overall, I have to admit that after many years of being a Linux Mint Cinnamon fan, this Windowsfx distro has already become a favourite in just two days for its sheer simplicity of use, even though it’s just a preview (beta) and I’m only using the Free edition. I’ve used the Windows 11 preview and IMO there’s little or no learning curve to using Windowsfx. I’m going to try it for a month then consider laying out $20 for the full version.

      I also have to agree with @Alex5723… I would be amazed if Microsoft didn’t stomp on it. 🙂

      Hope this helps…

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      • #2391474

        Good post Rick, seems to be of the same calibre/potential as PearOS,
        a linux iOS/OSX clone that suddenly disappeared back in January 2014.
        Shut-up and desist issued by a ‘large organisation’ to David Tavares, who moved on..
        Shame, was a good little distro back then albeit with bugs.

        Only just came across this: https://www.wikigain.com/install-pearos-on-pc/

        huh?!

        I’m waiting to see if Windowsfx reaches ‘final’ then take it for a spin.
        BTW, where did you get the checksums for the iso?
        Found nothing on the Windowsfx website, which put me off a while back and just re-checked.

        | Quality over Quantity |
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        • #2391481

          Thank you, @Microfix.

          Checksums for x64 version on SourceForge

          Click on the ‘info’ roundel on the right and you get this:

          windowsfx_checksums

          However, I didn’t pay a huge lot of attention to this as I knew from Jack Wallen’s review that it would be downloading ‘support files’ for the Wine layer… which could come from anywhere. As it turned out, they appear to all come from a presumably safe source – web.archive.org.

          I did make a mental note to myself not to use any of its built-in browsers for any of my usual websites where I have to enter username/password combos. I might perhaps later on… after I have become more conversant with what’s going on and have monitored internet traffic and connection endpoints.

          My LAN browsing with Windowsfx – with network monitoring (Nir Sofer’s CurrPorts with logging enabled plus others) on the Windows clients – has shown no unexpected TCP or UDP traffic, port probing or any other surprises in the brief time I spent exploring, most of which was copying screenshots over.

          Right this moment I’m more interested in just exploring the Windowsfx look-and-feel… then perhaps trying out its implementation of Wine… although the latter is a minor interest.

          I’ve also sent two messages to the developer – one via the website portal and one via email – but no reply so far.

          Hope this helps…

          • #2391639

            However, I didn’t pay a huge lot of attention to this as I knew from Jack Wallen’s review that it would be downloading ‘support files’ for the Wine layer… which could come from anywhere. As it turned out, they appear to all come from a presumably safe source – web.archive.org.

            Sucked from on an http connection!

            I think I’ll wait untill the dev hosts the complete package. As it stands, it’s open to intervention with no way of knowing whether isolated files are legit or not.

             

             

    • #2391628

      Apple sued Microsoft in 1988 and later 1994 (along with Hewlett-Packard) over looks (and feel) and was largely ruled against both times, maybe we’ll get to find out what user interface parts are really unique.

      Apple sued Samsung for the look of iOS… and won.

      • #2393762

        Apple did, but their victory was more meaningful in the United States alone. Before 2011 there was no mention in previous cases about design patent infringements, it was about copyright law.

        Apple has design patents recognized as being fully enforceable inside the USA now. Does Microsoft have some design patents for their new Windows 11 (Gnome/KDE like+Original workmanship) interface? Again maybe we will find out which other parts are really unique.

        There is a font installed in Windows 10 named Segoe MDL2 Assets, which you can also view with the Character Map (charmap). Does Segoe MDL2 Assets have a design patent number?

        Has Microsoft has been rendering OpenType font Unicode characters as user interface icons?

        How is Windowsfx team acquiring some of these flat monochrome icons for use in their user interface?

    • #2392263

      hey there. i am testing this version too. i find it really good. Just testing it in HyperV. Its very slow and laggy. Is there any trick to get a fluid experience

       

      thank you very much

      • #2393416

        I don’t have any experience of HyperV (only VMWare) but for someone to help you’ll need to say what resources (RAM, virtual CPU) you’ve assigned to the VM.

        In my opinion and experience so far with Windowsfx, you should be aiming at at least 4GB RAM and a couple of cores minimum.

        If you only allow the minimum resources (e.g. 2GB RAM as shown in the specs) then yes, it’s going to be a less than optimal experience – especially in a VM.

        Hope this helps…

    • #2395375

      Thanks, @rick-corbett for bringing me into this thread. Now I am very interested and my download is already running. I have tested recently Win11 in VMware, so I will have a nice comparsion for this.

      Dell Latitude E6530, Intel Core i5 @ 2.6 GHz, 4GB RAM, W10 20H2 Enterprise

      HAL3000, AMD Athlon 200GE @ 3,4 GHz, 8GB RAM, Fedora 29

      PRUSA i3 MK3S+

      • #2395378

        I have tested recently Win11 in VMware, so I will have a nice comparsion for this.

        I’ve begun to prefer bare metal to VMs recently for performance reasons.

        My VM host machine is very old now (Dell Precision Xeon 490 with 32GB RAM, 1 x 512 SSD, 2 x 4 TB HDD) and definitely showing its age for hosting VM guests (but still more than capable for video editing). Now I’m retired, I don’t have any reason to replace it with something more capable for VMs nor do I wish to pay out for yet another VMWare Pro upgrade.

        Instead, I bought 3 identical Dell Latitude E7450 laptops at a local ‘Police/Airport lost goods’ auction very cheaply because they all had their original SDDs removed. Two are in daily use for different purposes and one I use solely for testing.

        I tested Windows 11, decided it was so unfinished that it wasn’t for me and replaced the install with Windowsfx which I explore whenever I have some spare time.

        • #2395404

          I installed VM of Windows 11 purely from curiosity, whats so magical about it and if the promo it gets is well-deserved.

          I powered on the VM two times, found out, that there is nothing extraordinary (my VM lacks round corners, but I wont waste my time time with troubleshooting), insides looks the very same, just new colorful menu.. VM deleted. Windows 11 seems little bit half-baked to me.. I mean its suposed to be global product for all users including enterprise, thats why I am so strict about it.

          But now, I installed VM of Windowsfx (ran the live version from ISO, then installed on VM) and I AM IMPRESSED! Its faster on half size VM RAM then Windows 11 (I set 2GB for Wfx), so I think mr. Anonymous has problems with hyperV.
          Now I will dive deeply into testing. So far I have a big smile on my face.

          Dell Latitude E6530, Intel Core i5 @ 2.6 GHz, 4GB RAM, W10 20H2 Enterprise

          HAL3000, AMD Athlon 200GE @ 3,4 GHz, 8GB RAM, Fedora 29

          PRUSA i3 MK3S+

          • #2395445

            It’s good that it’s running well for you with only 2GB RAM for a VM. I’m a bit surprised. 🙂

            Is your Windowsfx VM hosted within VMware or HyperV?

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