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    Windowsfx was developed for users who have computers that used Microsoft Windows 7 and cannot run Windows 10 or 11. New computers with weak processors and low memory are also supported.

    Support x86 64bits PC — Run on 2GB RAM

    Windowsfx 11 Preview

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    • #2390872

      ? says:

      thanks, alex. from Sao Paulo Brazil SA. comes in two flavours, free edition and for only $20.00 US a fully loaded win11 emulating professional version:

      https://www.windowsfx.org/index.php/release-news/windowsfx-operating-system

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    • #2390917

      “Cygwin” used to be, and maybe still is, another possibility: a Windows application that is a complete LINUX emulator. I did use it extensively with Windows 7. Over the years, there have been different applications like this. There have been also applications for Windows that implement some handy LINUX/UNIX ones, such as the text editor VI, that can process huge files very quickly, and the really useful file sorter and manipulator AWK. These are used mostly in line-command mode.

      Ex Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7) since mid-2020. Now: running macOS Big Sur 11.6 & sometimes, Linux (Mint)

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      Waterfox "Current" and (now and then) Chrome. also Intego AV and Malwarebytes for the Mac.

    • #2390916

      Hard to tell but Microsoft Windows 11 own interface does look like a combination of Microsoft’s own tech, and possible imitation* of KDE and GNOME desktop environment elements. (*It is a truth that people can have have the same ideas without ever knowing about another group’s or person’s project.)

      Windowsfx looks like a customized version of Ubuntu with a new KDE Plasma/GNOME theme with preferred applications, and it will hopefully behave better than Microsoft Windows.

      • #2391050

        Bad ideas multiply as much as good ones 😡😝

        🍻

        Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
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    • #2391220

      Windows 10 Pro version 21H2 build 19044.1387 + Microsoft 365 (group ASAP)

      • #2391252

        I am waiting for Microsoft’s Cease and Desist letter.

        • #2391272

          Spill… what have you done now? 🙂

      • #2391265

        Windowsfx = no feature updates, telemetry or dodgy patches with stability from debian, mint and kde..anyone can create the look of Win11 in linux with the know how.

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    • #2391273

      anyone can create the look of Win11

      The look of Windows 11 and the name ‘Windows’ are protected by copyright.

      • #2391487

        Apple sued Microsoft in 1988 and later 1994 (along with Hewlett-Packard) over looks (and feel) and was largely ruled against both times, maybe we’ll get to find out what user interface parts are really unique.

    • #2391317

      I satisfied enough with Linux Mint on all my older Windows 7 laptops and I’m dual booting there but the laptops are not allowed online when booted into Windows 7. If one takes the time to consider that under Linux that Older Intel hardware is still getting graphics driver/graphics API support there long after MS has dropped support under Windows 7 so there are versions of Blender 3D 2.8/Above that refuse to run on any of my Intel Sandy Bridge generation laptops when booted into Windows 7 that will if booted into Linux Mint run Blender 3D 2.8/later fine for the most part.

      I find that Linux Mint is close enough to Windows and better in most ways there for Updates and other things aw well.

       

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    • #2391429

      A few points not mentioned in Jack Wallen’s review (Windowsfx is the Linux distribution Windows users have been looking for [TechRepublic.com]):

      1. Installation for all of the Windows compatibility components: Jack mentions this can take “30-60 minutes (depending on the speed of your network)” for the components used for the Wine layer.

      Hmmm… and the rest…

      Anyone who has ever used the Wayback Machine knows that downloads from web.archive.org are painfully slow, e.g. Windows 7 Service Pack 1 took nearly 1.5 hours.

      My installation of the components took over 3.5 hours in total, not helped that new component installer screens often kept appearing *behind* the commandline console window used to show progress… so I was often unaware that another component was ready for installation.

      2. Network discovery: This is the first Linux distro I have used where – out-of-the box – I was able to discover, connect to and browse shared resources on Windows devices across my LAN with *no* configuration whatsoever.

      I just opened the Dolphin file explorer, scrolled to the Network entry in the left-hand navigation pane then – in the right-hand pane – clicked on the Shared Folders (SMB) icon and the Windows devices appeared.

      network_authentication

      Once I had authenticated to each Windows device (by entering the account/password combo), that was it… browse heaven of shared resources across the LAN. So easy!

      Note: Windows devices need SMB1 enabled for this to work… which I have, due to other older equipment in use.

      Note: The Network entry also shows Bluetooth and MTP Devices icons.

      (Note: IMO the Dolphin file manager is one of the most useful and intuitive file managers that I’ve every used… and uses tabs!)

      3. Internet browser: Firefox and Google Chrome are both installed by default… but – to my surprise – so is Edge… and it’s the only browser both pinned by default to the panel (Taskbar) and shown in the Start menu.

      edge_available

      (It’s also strange to see PowerShell installed by default.)

      4. Free edition notification: A popup notification appears every single time you start Windowsfx. I haven’t yet found a way of disabling this.

      free_version_popup

      5. Battery life: I used two identical Dell Latitude E7450 laptops side-by-side, one running Windows 10, the other Windowsfx. Even the battery MTBF percentage (i.e. before the battery can no longer accept a charge and needs replacement) is almost identical (80%/81% respectively). From full charge, the laptop running Windowsfx lasted nearly 3 hours longer than the one running Windows 10.

      6. Virtual desktops: By default there are 4 configured… and quite by chance I discovered that a 2-finger swipe up or down on the trackpad scrolled through the desktops. The scrolling is impressively smooth.

      7. Wi-Fi: The Windowsfx wi-fi client connects much faster then the Windows 10 wi-fi client on an identical laptop – almost instantly.

      8. Updates: Windowsfx has already shown several available updates (all of which I’ve accepted). The Updates Notifier is efficient and the Updates Manager handles ‘Applications’, workspace UI (called ‘Plasma’) and ‘System’ updates all in the same dialog. A press of F5 initiates a check for updates, apparently across the board (without any updates being force-installed). It’s impressive.

      9. Remote access: Both AnyDesk and TeamViewer clients appear to be installed by default. However, clicking on TeamViewer only brings up Google Chrome‘s default search page. Here’s my Windows 10 laptop from the AnyDesk client running on the Windowsfx laptop. Just so, so easy.

      anydesk

      10: Phone: Unfortunately I couldn’t get it to recognise my iPhone and I don’t have an Android phone to test. If I remember, I’ll try again with a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 tablet I have (somewhere…).

      11. UI typos: Perhaps it’s just me but I find UI typos jarring. They spoil an otherwise very professional appearance. I’ve emailed the developer with  a couple that I’ve found.

      Overall, I have to admit that after many years of being a Linux Mint Cinnamon fan, this Windowsfx distro has already become a favourite in just two days for its sheer simplicity of use, even though it’s just a preview (beta) and I’m only using the Free edition. I’ve used the Windows 11 preview and IMO there’s little or no learning curve to using Windowsfx. I’m going to try it for a month then consider laying out $20 for the full version.

      I also have to agree with @Alex5723… I would be amazed if Microsoft didn’t stomp on it. 🙂

      Hope this helps…

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      • #2391474

        Good post Rick, seems to be of the same calibre/potential as PearOS,
        a linux iOS/OSX clone that suddenly disappeared back in January 2014.
        Shut-up and desist issued by a ‘large organisation’ to David Tavares, who moved on..
        Shame, was a good little distro back then albeit with bugs.

        Only just came across this: https://www.wikigain.com/install-pearos-on-pc/

        huh?!

        I’m waiting to see if Windowsfx reaches ‘final’ then take it for a spin.
        BTW, where did you get the checksums for the iso?
        Found nothing on the Windowsfx website, which put me off a while back and just re-checked.

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        • #2391481

          Thank you, @Microfix.

          Checksums for x64 version on SourceForge

          Click on the ‘info’ roundel on the right and you get this:

          windowsfx_checksums

          However, I didn’t pay a huge lot of attention to this as I knew from Jack Wallen’s review that it would be downloading ‘support files’ for the Wine layer… which could come from anywhere. As it turned out, they appear to all come from a presumably safe source – web.archive.org.

          I did make a mental note to myself not to use any of its built-in browsers for any of my usual websites where I have to enter username/password combos. I might perhaps later on… after I have become more conversant with what’s going on and have monitored internet traffic and connection endpoints.

          My LAN browsing with Windowsfx – with network monitoring (Nir Sofer’s CurrPorts with logging enabled plus others) on the Windows clients – has shown no unexpected TCP or UDP traffic, port probing or any other surprises in the brief time I spent exploring, most of which was copying screenshots over.

          Right this moment I’m more interested in just exploring the Windowsfx look-and-feel… then perhaps trying out its implementation of Wine… although the latter is a minor interest.

          I’ve also sent two messages to the developer – one via the website portal and one via email – but no reply so far.

          Hope this helps…

          • #2391639

            However, I didn’t pay a huge lot of attention to this as I knew from Jack Wallen’s review that it would be downloading ‘support files’ for the Wine layer… which could come from anywhere. As it turned out, they appear to all come from a presumably safe source – web.archive.org.

            Sucked from on an http connection!

            I think I’ll wait untill the dev hosts the complete package. As it stands, it’s open to intervention with no way of knowing whether isolated files are legit or not.

             

             

    • #2391628

      Apple sued Microsoft in 1988 and later 1994 (along with Hewlett-Packard) over looks (and feel) and was largely ruled against both times, maybe we’ll get to find out what user interface parts are really unique.

      Apple sued Samsung for the look of iOS… and won.

      • #2393762

        Apple did, but their victory was more meaningful in the United States alone. Before 2011 there was no mention in previous cases about design patent infringements, it was about copyright law.

        Apple has design patents recognized as being fully enforceable inside the USA now. Does Microsoft have some design patents for their new Windows 11 (Gnome/KDE like+Original workmanship) interface? Again maybe we will find out which other parts are really unique.

        There is a font installed in Windows 10 named Segoe MDL2 Assets, which you can also view with the Character Map (charmap). Does Segoe MDL2 Assets have a design patent number?

        Has Microsoft has been rendering OpenType font Unicode characters as user interface icons?

        How is Windowsfx team acquiring some of these flat monochrome icons for use in their user interface?

    • #2392263

      hey there. i am testing this version too. i find it really good. Just testing it in HyperV. Its very slow and laggy. Is there any trick to get a fluid experience

       

      thank you very much

      • #2393416

        I don’t have any experience of HyperV (only VMWare) but for someone to help you’ll need to say what resources (RAM, virtual CPU) you’ve assigned to the VM.

        In my opinion and experience so far with Windowsfx, you should be aiming at at least 4GB RAM and a couple of cores minimum.

        If you only allow the minimum resources (e.g. 2GB RAM as shown in the specs) then yes, it’s going to be a less than optimal experience – especially in a VM.

        Hope this helps…

    • #2395375

      Thanks, @rick-corbett for bringing me into this thread. Now I am very interested and my download is already running. I have tested recently Win11 in VMware, so I will have a nice comparsion for this.

      Dell Latitude E6530, Intel Core i5 @ 2.6 GHz, 4GB RAM, W10 20H2 Enterprise

      HAL3000, AMD Athlon 200GE @ 3,4 GHz, 8GB RAM, Fedora 29

      PRUSA i3 MK3S+

      • #2395378

        I have tested recently Win11 in VMware, so I will have a nice comparsion for this.

        I’ve begun to prefer bare metal to VMs recently for performance reasons.

        My VM host machine is very old now (Dell Precision Xeon 490 with 32GB RAM, 1 x 512 SSD, 2 x 4 TB HDD) and definitely showing its age for hosting VM guests (but still more than capable for video editing). Now I’m retired, I don’t have any reason to replace it with something more capable for VMs nor do I wish to pay out for yet another VMWare Pro upgrade.

        Instead, I bought 3 identical Dell Latitude E7450 laptops at a local ‘Police/Airport lost goods’ auction very cheaply because they all had their original SDDs removed. Two are in daily use for different purposes and one I use solely for testing.

        I tested Windows 11, decided it was so unfinished that it wasn’t for me and replaced the install with Windowsfx which I explore whenever I have some spare time.

        • #2395404

          I installed VM of Windows 11 purely from curiosity, whats so magical about it and if the promo it gets is well-deserved.

          I powered on the VM two times, found out, that there is nothing extraordinary (my VM lacks round corners, but I wont waste my time time with troubleshooting), insides looks the very same, just new colorful menu.. VM deleted. Windows 11 seems little bit half-baked to me.. I mean its suposed to be global product for all users including enterprise, thats why I am so strict about it.

          But now, I installed VM of Windowsfx (ran the live version from ISO, then installed on VM) and I AM IMPRESSED! Its faster on half size VM RAM then Windows 11 (I set 2GB for Wfx), so I think mr. Anonymous has problems with hyperV.
          Now I will dive deeply into testing. So far I have a big smile on my face.

          Dell Latitude E6530, Intel Core i5 @ 2.6 GHz, 4GB RAM, W10 20H2 Enterprise

          HAL3000, AMD Athlon 200GE @ 3,4 GHz, 8GB RAM, Fedora 29

          PRUSA i3 MK3S+

          • #2395445

            It’s good that it’s running well for you with only 2GB RAM for a VM. I’m a bit surprised. 🙂

            Is your Windowsfx VM hosted within VMware or HyperV?

    • #2399938

      Windowsfx 11.0 LTS, a Windows 11 inspired Linux distribution based on Ubuntu Linux 20.04 LTS is now available on Final version, more info over on: https://www.windowsfx.org/

      WxDesktop ported to version 11:
      New MS-Windows 11 Control Panel
      All features now support dark theme
      Fixed one-drive login issue
      Added new automatic WxDesktop updater
      Fixed issues with personal assistant
      All system ported to Fluent theme
      New MS-Windows executable program support tool
      Added stable MS-Edge browser
      Improved support for device drivers
      Improved Active Directory support
      Improved boot system
      Fixed issues with blur and shader
      System now runs blur and shader natively

      probably less bloat bugged with better stability than the NTFS version 🙂

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    • #2400006

      I don’t know if anyone else is experiencing this but the download speed of the windowsfx ISO is pitifully slow at the moment. I wish they provided torrent links.

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      • #2400362

        Yes, it took hours to download.

        Dell Latitude E6530, Intel Core i5 @ 2.6 GHz, 4GB RAM, W10 20H2 Enterprise

        HAL3000, AMD Athlon 200GE @ 3,4 GHz, 8GB RAM, Fedora 29

        PRUSA i3 MK3S+

    • #2400038

      This is interesting, but the reason I first started looking into Linux  was because of the hideous interface Microsoft had slapped onto Windows 8. IMO the interface has only continued to get worse in Win10 and 11. But this Windowsfx proposes to replicate the very UI that I want to get away from.

      If they made a version that looked instead like Windows Vista or 7 with Aero Glass-like translucence, I would jump on it in a minute.

      On a separate question, the “What is the difference?” section on the Windowsfx home page talks about the paid edition’s having “WxDesktop system settings and tools” and also unlimited “Use of all WxDesktop resources”. What is WxDesktop, does anybody know? The other listed differences among the versions (voice assistant, Active Directory, OneDrive) are of no interest, so this WxDesktop thing is the only remaining difference that might make a difference.

       

    • #2400169

      If they made a version that looked instead like Windows Vista or 7

      Have a look at Make your Ubuntu/Linux Mint look like Windows 7 or 8 (Because You Can).

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      • #2400190

        From the discussion below the referenced post:

        Q:

        I am wondering if there is a way to have transparency of the title bar (aero) in the file manager, ala windows 7

        A;

        Requires python 2.7 and gtk2 sources as well as vala etc. You`ll loose some of the panel design if you want rgba, and its highly undocumented. Not easy as cinnamon. Can send you sources, but am not sure if you can use it or if its stable or you are even able to compile.

        Of course, that exchange took place six years ago and things may have improved since then.

         

    • #2403008

      What is the advantage of using Windowsfx over using Mint or Kubuntu?

      I am asking as someone that is not particularly interested in having a LINUX desktop that looks like Windows 7, or like the desktop of any other Windows version, but who is open to the possibility that there may be something else that is better in Windowsfx and makes it preferable to Mint or Kubuntu.

      Thanks for any helpful explanation, in plain English if possible.

      Ex Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7) since mid-2020. Now: running macOS Big Sur 11.6 & sometimes, Linux (Mint)

      MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
      Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
      Waterfox "Current" and (now and then) Chrome. also Intego AV and Malwarebytes for the Mac.

    • #2403054

      What is the advantage of using Windowsfx over using Mint or Kubuntu?

      This is difficult to answer without knowing what it is you want to be able to do and what hardware you have to run the distros on… so I’ll have to generalise without going into any specifics.

      I’ve been using Linux Mint Cinnamon for several years. I’ve tried Kubuntu briefly but went back to Mint almost immediately… I’m just not keen on the KDE desktop. I’ve also used Linux Mint Xfce on a couple of underpowered netbooks.

      Just recently I’ve been ‘playing’ with Windowsfx, first the pre-release version and now the v11 release. I’ve also just downloaded Windowsfx with the Windows 10 UI to have a look but haven’t yet installed it.

      Linux Mint (all flavours) and Kubuntu have tried and tested stable releases backed up by documentation and support developed over many years. There is a lot of experience readily available online for newcomers to these distros.

      If you read the Windowsfx General Discussion forum then it’s clear that many people are experiencing difficulties with bugs (UI elements, licensing, networking). There appears to be just a single person – the main developer (Rafael Rachid) – answering queries… and some just haven’t been answered. As Windowsfx has only just come out of pre-release I would hold off for a while and keep an eye on the forum.

      I personally haven’t had any issues with Windowsfx… but I haven’t been using it as my daily driver (nor have I yet tried its installation of Wine). It’s very attractive looking and I was really impressed by its networking right out the box. (It took me a while to get my head round the equivalent configuration in Mint so I could seamlessly access Windows devices on my LAN.)

      Having said that, I prefer Mint for day-to-day use for its rock-solid stability… now I’ve worked out printing and scanning.

      If you’re new to Linux then I suggest trying both a flavour of Mint (depending on your hardware) and Kubuntu to see what desktop interface you like. IMO Windowsfx doesn’t yet have any clear advantage over Mint or Kubuntu, but this may change in time.

      Hope this helps…

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      • #2403160

        Rick Corbett: Thanks, your general comments are good enough for me.

        I have one other question: Who develops this new distro of LINUX? Is it MS itself, or some other organization, commercial or not, or is it a new and independent LINUX Project?

        As to my hardware: The relevant hardware is described in my signature panel, beneath each comment I post. I don’t do anything that requires a great deal of computation (so no 3-D gaming, making 3-D animation movies, …), except for analyzing data from artificial satellite remote-sensing, and for that any machine with a reasonably powerful CPU (such as the one listed in my signature panel), at least 16 GB of RAM and one or more TB of SSD would do.

        Since this is an “Intel” Mac, I can still install LINUX in it using Boot Camp. Or install it in a VM, that now is an option, but it may become necessary if and when I change this Mac with an Intel CISC CPU for one with the new Apple RISC CPUs, as Apple no longer supports Boot Camp in these new Macs. I’m not  likely to get a new computer any time soon, though. The new Macs and the operating system for them are new, and with such new things I always take my time and wait until these become older.

        My current machine, for example, is quite adequate for my purposes. Any future machine I need to buy shall have the same or more computing power.

        Ex Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7) since mid-2020. Now: running macOS Big Sur 11.6 & sometimes, Linux (Mint)

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        Waterfox "Current" and (now and then) Chrome. also Intego AV and Malwarebytes for the Mac.

        • #2403176

          And no: One cannot use Boot Camp to install Linux in a Mac, more recent ones at least (don’t know much about older Macs), but there is a more complicated procedure that is not for the faint of heart or inexperienced around computers and unfamiliar with setting them up:

          https://www.howtogeek.com/187410/how-to-install-and-dual-boot-linux-on-a-mac/

          Ex Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7) since mid-2020. Now: running macOS Big Sur 11.6 & sometimes, Linux (Mint)

          MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
          Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
          Waterfox "Current" and (now and then) Chrome. also Intego AV and Malwarebytes for the Mac.

    • #2403162

      Some Linux distros meant to look like windows also say they have pre-installed Wine and set it up so clicking on windows exes runs them easily.  Wine isn’t hard to use on any Linux though.  I suggest using a Linux where you are comfortable with the (very active) support forum.  Several years ago IMO there was a transition period where a lot of distros, the desktop software I mean, were imperfect.  Now, for me, KDE, Gnome and Cinnamon all seem usable.

      Distrowatch kind of tells what some popular or trendy Linux are.

      -BB

    • #2403197

      Who develops this new distro of LINUX? Is it MS itself

      Windowsfx appears to have just the one main developer – Rafael Rachid, based in Sao Paulo in Brazil, although in the forum he uses ‘we are working through the issues’. Linux Mint‘s origin is Ireland and Kubuntu‘s is the Isle of Man, UK. None have any involvement with Microsoft per se.

      As I’ve mentioned in another post, one of the possible problems Windowsfx may face is Microsoft itself. Windowsfx hasn’t just copied the ‘look and feel’ of Windows 11 (and 10) but is also re-using MS support libraries downloaded via the Wayback Machine.

      Quite frankly I’m a bit surprised Microsoft lawyers haven’t shut Windowsfx down already. This may be because copyright law is different in Brazil or, more likely, Microsoft (which appears to have embraced Linux like latter-day evangelists) is watching to see how well Windowsfx development goes before swooping in with a ‘sell to us or be bankrupted by law suits’ offer in order to take over someone else’s effort for little or no cost.

      (Another possible issue is that the Wayback Machine itself is struggling to support itself and has recently launched another major fundraising effort to keep going.)

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      • #2403200

        Rick Corbett: “[…] more likely, Microsoft (which appears to have embraced Linux like latter-day evangelists) is watching to see how well Windowsfx development goes before swooping in with a ‘sell to us or be bankrupted by law suits’ offer in order to take over someone else’s effort for little or no cost.

        The Brazilians are famous for being very nationalistic. If it came to that, a confrontation with “Yankee” heavy MS might get really interesting, perhaps enough to watch and follow, especially if other parties then come in on the side of the beleaguered developers.

        Ex Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7) since mid-2020. Now: running macOS Big Sur 11.6 & sometimes, Linux (Mint)

        MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
        Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
        Waterfox "Current" and (now and then) Chrome. also Intego AV and Malwarebytes for the Mac.

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