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    • #1986510 Reply

      Michael Austin
      AskWoody Plus

      Hiya. Has anyone heard of any workarounds or fixes to Microsoft’s current patch insanities and how they affect mouse lag? It seems that since I acquiesced to all the forced, unwelcome, destructive Windows 10 updates Microsoft has caused annoying mouse lag for all my Logitech Marathon M705 mice. This doesn’t stop me from using the PC but it instead it reduced my efficiency because I’m very fast with using and navigating in Windows.  I’m running an eight-core, water-cooled box on 10’s Home edition with 32 GB of RAM so it’s not likely to be a hardware issue. Microsoft has been borrowing pages from Apple’s six-year long iOS playbook, with the release of its own destructive, garbage-fire updates. Dank je for any assistance or leads 🙂

      Professional propellerhead. Former builder & admin of the 1st mixed OS network at a premier gallery of vintage animation art in its cake days, including its 1st intranet and all its back office business systems. My LAN security implementations once successfully passed muster by subpoena from a CA Superior Court judge. Former Windows Secrets subscriber and also former, gleeful reader of InfoWorld when it was a tabloid print edition.

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    • #1986522 Reply

      PKCano
      Da Boss

      Have you tried updating the drivers for the mouse (mice)? MS is good about substituting their own drivers for hardware, especially in Win10

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      • #1986556 Reply

        anonymous

        Good idea. Sparked by your idea I just now tried Logitech’s Unifying Receiver firmware update. Surprisingly it helped a little but didn’t completely eliminate the lag. https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/360035037273

        So maybe I could nose around at the Logitech site and see if there might be a way I can download their mouse driver and overwrite Windows’ imperiously redundant arrogance 😉

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      • #1986568 Reply

        Michael Austin
        AskWoody Plus

        PS, PKCano… in checking Microsoft’s Device Manager I see a tell-tale date of 8-29-19 indicating the dreaded 1903 update although the driver claims it’s signed for 2006. Screenshots attached.

        Professional propellerhead. Former builder & admin of the 1st mixed OS network at a premier gallery of vintage animation art in its cake days, including its 1st intranet and all its back office business systems. My LAN security implementations once successfully passed muster by subpoena from a CA Superior Court judge. Former Windows Secrets subscriber and also former, gleeful reader of InfoWorld when it was a tabloid print edition.

        Earth spirit. Finance, social and tech founder.

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    • #1986521 Reply

      anonymous

      in my opinion, and I may be wrong…microsoft no longer is willing to support older devices…i have the same issue with my hp laserjet 2300n…no longer provides a driver…have to use the universal driver, that does allow me to choose a source…

      • #1986557 Reply

        Michael Austin

        Yeah that might be possible for Microflabby these days. Yet Logitech still sells the M705 and also keeps its software in great shape over the (two!) decades I’ve been using them.

    • #1986572 Reply

      Michael Austin
      AskWoody Plus

      PS 2, PKCano… Here’s a second Device Manager tab showing the 8-29-19 date under Events.

      Events mouse migration

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    • #1986763 Reply

      anonymous

      Pursuing the driver solution should be followed to conclusion. As another line to investigate please read Fred Langa’s article Free Tools Help Prevent Universal Serial Bus Slowdowns in this week’s newsletter. It may describe another reason for lag.

      • #1998411 Reply

        Michael Austin
        AskWoody Plus

        Thanks… I glanced at Fred’s USB solutions flow chart and although I feel it could work, it involves complex levels of geekery which I’m unwilling to do 😉

        I also feel like if I’ve paid Microsoft to design and maintain Windows I’d prefer not to use Do-It-Yourself patching at such a complex level.

        Professional propellerhead. Former builder & admin of the 1st mixed OS network at a premier gallery of vintage animation art in its cake days, including its 1st intranet and all its back office business systems. My LAN security implementations once successfully passed muster by subpoena from a CA Superior Court judge. Former Windows Secrets subscriber and also former, gleeful reader of InfoWorld when it was a tabloid print edition.

        Earth spirit. Finance, social and tech founder.

        • #1998506 Reply

          anonymous

          I can agree that when you purchase an item it should keep working the way you expect. And I understand looking for a simple solution.

          What I hoped for Fred Langa’s article to suggest to you is that modern fast Universal Serial Bus controllers may self limit to match the slowest device sharing the bus. This may include an old mouse, or any other device using an outdated standard.

          If this does not describe your conditions then I hope a better driver can be found. When you do not find satisfaction, you may chose to purchase a new mouse designed for today’s USB standards. This may cooperate better with the other modern devices sharing the bus.

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    • #1986795 Reply

      anonymous

      Do you have another model/brand wireless mouse with the matched receiver? Have you a wired USB mouse to test for lagged input?

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    • #1986925 Reply

      alexcris
      AskWoody Plus

      Hiya. Has anyone heard of any workarounds or fixes to Microsoft’s current patch insanities and how they affect mouse lag? It seems that since I acquiesced to all the forced, unwelcome, destructive Windows 10 updates Microsoft has caused annoying mouse lag for all my Logitech Marathon M705 mice. This doesn’t stop me from using the PC but it instead it reduced my efficiency because I’m very fast with using and navigating in Windows.  I’m running an eight-core, water-cooled box on 10’s Home edition with 32 GB of RAM so it’s not likely to be a hardware issue. Microsoft has been borrowing pages from Apple’s six-year long iOS playbook, with the release of its own destructive, garbage-fire updates. Dank je for any assistance or leads 🙂

      Thanks for posting this.  I’ve experienced the same lag with Logitech Performance MX mouse.  But the dreaded 1903 appears nowhere.  However, ” 7/20/2019 6:36:20 PM Device Install Requested,”  in Device Manager Logitech HID-compliant Unifying Mouse.  I have Win Update paused till 11/15, and last cumulative update was installed 8/11/2019.  Logitech has a firmware update tool for 8/20/2019, Brings the latest version of the firmware (FW) to supported devices. Adds- Bug fixes and security improvements.  At https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/360035037273-Firmware-Update-Tool

      Hope this helps.

       

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      • #1998412 Reply

        Michael Austin
        AskWoody Plus

        I haven’t yet tried a wired mouse although I have one as an emergency spare. If I get annoyed enough with the wireless problem I might try that 😉

        Professional propellerhead. Former builder & admin of the 1st mixed OS network at a premier gallery of vintage animation art in its cake days, including its 1st intranet and all its back office business systems. My LAN security implementations once successfully passed muster by subpoena from a CA Superior Court judge. Former Windows Secrets subscriber and also former, gleeful reader of InfoWorld when it was a tabloid print edition.

        Earth spirit. Finance, social and tech founder.

      • #1998413 Reply

        Michael Austin
        AskWoody Plus

        AlexCris, thank you. I did find Logitech’s wireless firmware update and curiously enough it helped for about a day. But then it was back to SN,AFU :- /

        Professional propellerhead. Former builder & admin of the 1st mixed OS network at a premier gallery of vintage animation art in its cake days, including its 1st intranet and all its back office business systems. My LAN security implementations once successfully passed muster by subpoena from a CA Superior Court judge. Former Windows Secrets subscriber and also former, gleeful reader of InfoWorld when it was a tabloid print edition.

        Earth spirit. Finance, social and tech founder.

        • #1998451 Reply

          satrow
          AskWoody MVP

          You have a spare wired mouse, you could try rolling back the MS drivers to the previous versions via Device Manager.

    • #1999052 Reply

      Michael Austin
      AskWoody Plus

      Thank you, friendly Anon. My Logitech M705 mice were purchased for their comparatively ergonomic comfort on my own hands. If there’s a newer mouse from a whack-name Chinese manufacturer which has functioning, newer drivers, that might be a faster, simpler option than trying to solve a problem inside Microsoft’s labyrinthine and now careless software environments.

      Instead of me expecting Microsoft to actually manage the (formerly smooth) usuability of its suffering operating system, maybe I’ll also feel like it’s an option to consider what master Woody observed in his newsletter of this morning.

      The mouse lag problem and maybe two other little OS anomalies appeared right after the abysmal 1803. Since it looks like Microsoft will continue to release less-than-dogmeat updates to its OS maybe I might cross-grade my OS from Home to Professional so I can take the steps needed to perform my own patch management of the OS. Although I’m capable of this I was hoping to avoid it.

      Once upon a time I used a patch management server on a former client’s Windows server to put the craziness of each client machine’s patch needs into the container of a server management console.

      I can agree that when you purchase an item it should keep working the way you expect. And I understand looking for a simple solution.

      What I hoped for Fred Langa’s article to suggest to you is that modern fast Universal Serial Bus controllers may self limit to match the slowest device sharing the bus. This may include an old mouse, or any other device using an outdated standard.

      If this does not describe your conditions then I hope a better driver can be found. When you do not find satisfaction, you may chose to purchase a new mouse designed for today’s USB standards. This may cooperate better with the other modern devices sharing the bus.

      Professional propellerhead. Former builder & admin of the 1st mixed OS network at a premier gallery of vintage animation art in its cake days, including its 1st intranet and all its back office business systems. My LAN security implementations once successfully passed muster by subpoena from a CA Superior Court judge. Former Windows Secrets subscriber and also former, gleeful reader of InfoWorld when it was a tabloid print edition.

      Earth spirit. Finance, social and tech founder.

      • #1999266 Reply

        anonymous

        You have not shared what other USB devices were exposed by the USBView tool or comparable gadget that may have indicated whether this is or is not a factor. You have set it aside to pursue another plan. That is good. It appears you have also concluded your efforts to find a more appropriate driver. Please return later to let us know if the Professional edition opened the labyrinth enough to slay the Minotaur that delays your Marathon. Good hunting, Sir.

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