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      • #2365173
        krism
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        I bought a used Lenovo T570 that had a Samsung MZVLW256HEHP-000L7. Everything runs fine except backups. Sometimes they run fast (1.1Gbps per Macrium, 7 min backup), other times very slow. I thought I’d try Easeus but 8.9 says it has errors, and 8.13? free trial doesn’t say anything but says 1hr 30min or more to back it up, so its going sector by sector. Very uncool of these programs to not tell me there are errors. Nothing seems amis in smart.

        I tried explorer/properties/tools/check on all identifiable partitions but it finds nothing. I tried Easeus Partition Master 10.8 but it cant find any errors.

        I cannot swap the M.2 for a sata ssd because the laptop came with the M.2 adapter, NOT the sata adapter.

        Help! 🙂

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        - ThinkPad T570-20HA, i7-7600U, 2.8GHz, UEFI/GPT, Win10 21H1 Pro x64, 16GB, Sammy 256GB M.2 NVMe PM961. -

      • #2365175
        cyberSAR
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        Are you running the backup from within Windows? That may explain the issue. I always do my images from a boot disk. Try installing Samsung Magician and let it check the drive and firmware.

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      • #2365177
        krism
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        I always run backup from windows.
        Samsung magician sees no problem, gives firmware, but I see no way to check or update it.

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      • #2365179
        cyberSAR
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        I haven’t run Magician in quite some time so off top of my head not sure about F/W update but I think it notifies you if available. See if this might help https://news.samsung.com/us/magician-software-update-for-samsung-ssd-users/

        As to different speeds of backup, when running in Windows something else may be running and eating up resources. Maybe try checking task manager while a backup is in progress.

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        • #2365180
          cyberSAR
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          BTW I noticed you mentioned the backup was doing sector by sector. That will certainly take much longer. I haven’t used Easus in years so not sure about it. I do occasionally use Macrium and haven’t observed any issues with it even on bad hdd.

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      • #2365181
        krism
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        thanks all
        Nothing else is running. checked.

        I did find a firmware update, in Lenovo, for my T570, but ran it and samsung magician still says the same firmware as before, and the problem did not go away.

        Nope, got sa bad problem somewhere here…

        Group W (windows, current)
        - ThinkPad T570-20HA, i7-7600U, 2.8GHz, UEFI/GPT, Win10 21H1 Pro x64, 16GB, Sammy 256GB M.2 NVMe PM961. -

      • #2365188
        krism
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        The only reason I mentioned sector by sector was because easeus offered that as an option when it found errors. I would never do that.

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        - ThinkPad T570-20HA, i7-7600U, 2.8GHz, UEFI/GPT, Win10 21H1 Pro x64, 16GB, Sammy 256GB M.2 NVMe PM961. -

      • #2365198
        Sky
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        A few thoughts:

        1) After running a backup or two, what does Samsung Magican say your SSD temperatures are on your computer drive and your backup drive? If you’re running several backups in a row it could be throttling the later ones. I’ve had this with SATA Samsung SSDs before, at least.

        2) It will probably say that it doesn’t support your drive, but Samsung Magician does offer a Diagnostic Scan function.

        3) Macrium can be configured to run a verification on your backup after it has created it. Does this show any errors? If it doesn’t, then that sounds like it could be EaseUS’ problem. I’ve not used EaseUS before, though, so I can’t really advise on it.

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      • #2365202
        krism
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        Thanks. I did one backup test and cancelled it and noticed it said read (M.2) was 1.6Gbps and write was 280Mbps. Apparently I have a wonky Sabrent sata to USB3 adapter – this one was with an external 2.5 case. Doubt it got too warm, just wonky. I see them at Microcenter for $15 w/o a case so I’ll pick one up tomorrow. In the meantime I am using my other one which is also Sabrent but takes small and big drive format and that is performing fine.

        So my limiting factor by far is the adapter.

        Easeus 13.1 free seems to be going fine.

        User error – looking in wrong direction.

        Thanks all. Call it solved.

        Group W (windows, current)
        - ThinkPad T570-20HA, i7-7600U, 2.8GHz, UEFI/GPT, Win10 21H1 Pro x64, 16GB, Sammy 256GB M.2 NVMe PM961. -

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