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It looks like the popular Macrium Reflect free is being discontinued early 2024. I had this message appear in the pop-up when upgraded to the latest version.

 

EDIT: corrected discontinue date

(Note – I wasn’t sure where to put this in the forums so feel free to move it)

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It looks like the popular Macrium Reflect free is being discontinued early 2024. I had this message appear in the pop-up when upgraded to the latest version.

 

EDIT: corrected discontinue date

(Note – I wasn’t sure where to put this in the forums so feel free to move it)

• This topic was modified 1 year ago by Microfix.
• This topic was modified 1 year ago by thebox.

The paid license is half price today (Black Friday).

https://www.macrium.com/black-friday

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thebox wrote:

It looks like the popular Macrium Reflect free is being discontinued early 2024.

But if you already have the free software, the legacy will live on — and you can continue to use it.

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I have three Qs re the Home 4-pack and then I’ll probably buy at Macrium’s 50% off rush:

1. I have five machines in the family now and will soon have a sixth.  Do you see any way I can buy 1½ 4-packs for $105 total ( = 1.5 x $69.98) ?
2. Is this an annual subscription or one-time purchase that continues (like buying Office 2021)?
3. If it’s an annual subscription, what happens at the end of the year?

Thanks.

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Macrium Reflect Home is not subscription software.

Macrium Reflect Support Policy.

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PKCano – thanks for the link.

I think that “Support Policy” page is a bit confusing.

1. I’m guessing it means my purchase will be good for the current version 8.xx, but what happens when Macrium invents version 9.xx?
2. I’m also guessing that the version 8.xx I buy will continue to work with “support” going down over time, but I’ll have to re-purchase to upgrade to 9.xx when the time comes.

To the knowledgeable crowd here – if you’ve purchased MR in the past, what has been your experience with this issue?

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According to the linked Policy:

Macrium 8 Free will receive security updates till Jan 2024. After that, it won’t necessarily support later versions of Windows 10/11 after version 22H2. But you can continue to use it after that – it will work on what it does support.

If you buy Macrium 8 Home, you get extra features the Free version doesn’t have. You will get updates for Macrium 8 Home for a year after version 9 is released. It will continue to work after that on whatever versions of Win it supports.

It is my guess you will get a price break on Home v.8->v.9 upgrade.

See #2500966 below.

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FYI

1) Take note that the 50% Off Black Friday Deal ends 01 December 2022.

2) “Macrium Reflect Free Product – End Of Life (EOL)

Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7167 is the last version to receive feature, compatibility or bug fix updates.

Will future security vulnerabilities be fixed?

Yes, security patches will still be provided until 1st January 2024. After that date we will no longer provide any changes to the v8 Free code base.

Can I continue to use Macrium Reflect Free?

Yes, you can continue to use the software in perpetuity, your license to use the software is unaffected.

Will Macrium Reflect Free have any new features or updates for future Windows versions?

Macrium Reflect Free v8.0 supports Windows XP SP 3.0 up to, and including, Windows 10 & 11 version 22H2. There will be no new features or support for later Windows operating system updates.

Note: This notice only applies to Macrium Reflect Free.”

Re : https://www.macrium.com/product-support-policy

HTH

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FYI: I’m still using Reflect Free V6 and it works just fine. Don’t need all those fancy new features they keep adding. I’m still using V6 because I can script it with PowerShell and it works great with my code for Non-Techie backups.

May the Forces of good computing be with you!

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I was never been computer savvy; just savvy enough to be a member of this forum and ask questions.  So, when you say that you ran script Macrium using Powershell I am at a complete loss. I currently have an version 8 and if it can be used unsupported by updates, as you have with version 6, I’m happy with that.

Some additional information: I’m still using Win 10 (21H2) and am sticking with it as long as possible. My computer is incapable of downloading Win 11 and I’ll use Win 10 as long as I can just like many users here still use Win 7. (I expect that O patch will like fill the update void for Win 10 as they have for Win 7.

Any suggestions about Macrium or otherwise? Thanks in advance.

Peace, CAS

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CAS,

Using Reflect V-8 is just fine if you understand how to use the program, as it is obvious you do.

I’m using V-6 because the interface of Reflect stymies many and I can do some tricks with PowerShell to make it easier to use once it is setup right. Can’t move forward to V7 or V8 as they won’t exit back to PowerShell like V6 does.

If you’re interested in how I do this you can download the Backup for Non-Techies.Zip file from my OneDrive and read the PDF included therein.

May the Forces of good computing be with you!

RG

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Thank you for providing the PDF for where to get V6 Reflect.   I’ve been using it for several years, back to Version 4 I believe and it has always worked perfectly.  I have a V7 bootable stick that I have to use sometimes when a laptop doesn’t have the MR boot App on it.  I did notice a year or two ago that my Version 7 Stick, read and created perfect image restores of V8 files, so my conclusion was that all the V7 and V8 were tweeks to the UI and not the basic “Volume Shadow Copy” of one device to another.    That appears to be the same for V6, given your post.  Is my conclusion correct based on your experience?

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Backup software Macrium Reflect Free is being retired and Free alternatives.

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There are free alternatives available for Macrium Reflect, here is a short list:

AOMEI Backupper — Another free solution with paid upgrades. The Standard Edition is free to use, supports file, system, disk and partition backups to all sorts of storage devices, including Network/NAS and cloud. It lacks some features, including differential backup, encryption or dynamic disk backups.

Paragon Backup & Recovery Free — This is the backup solution that I use. It supports all major features, including file, partition/disk and entire computer backups, scheduled backups, incremental and differential backups, and more.

Rescuezilla — An open source backup solution that supports creating and restoring data backups. It is operating system agnostic…

EaseUS Todo Backup free

Veeam Backup free

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Alex – do any of these free apps have scheduling for automatic daily / weekly / monthly backups?

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Alex, thanks for suggesting the Paragon backup. I went to their site, checked out the features  and I plan to install it when Macrium goes EOL.

Peace, CAS

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PKCano wrote:

Macrium 8 Free will receive security updates till Jan 2024. After that, it won’t necessarily support later versions of Windows 10/11 after version 22H2. But you can continue to use it after that – it will work on what it does support.

I wonder, since it isn’t reaching EOL till Jan 2024, if Macrium will again offer a Black Friday deal next November 2023 before Macrium Free reaches EOL. No way to know, but there is another Black Friday/Cyber Monday in 2023 before Jan 2024.

Just thinking…

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I run Macrium Reflect Home 8 on my main computer (highest priority), and Macrium Reflect Free on 2 other computers. I see that Macrium has a discounted 4-pack for Reflect Home 8 available for $69.98 right now. Maybe next year!

https://www.macrium.com/black-friday?x-campaignid=v8-013cb

Windows 10 Pro 22H2

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glnz wrote:

Paragon Backup & Recovery Free

Yes, Paragon Backup & Recovery Free.

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I recently used Macrium Reflect to do a clone of a laptop HD replacement. I was amazed on how it worked and did the clone with 100% accuracy. I then asked about their backup program. I like to see full files (non-compressed) on a MyBook, which I currently do with GFI Backup (old 2009 ver3.1) and allows me to view on any computer. Problem with MR was it can do the same thing, but you need to have their program installed on a computer to view those files, even though they’re not compressed. I still have Macrium Reflect and will get the special deal for one computer as John W mentions.

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Does anyone know if there is a trustworthy place to still obtain Macrium Reflect Free?  Major Geeks, perhaps?  I have never used Macrium, as I’ve used R-Drive Image (paid) for years but it’s slow and the support is not good (replies are quick, but 80% of the time it is “update to the new version”…which is NOT free if it’s been over a year since purchase).  So I was thinking of switching to a new imaging solution concurrent with my move to Windows 10 on a new pc.  Would welcome any recommendations, either free or paid.  I assume the paid Macrium Reflect Home (paid) would be well-regarded?  Thanks.

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Check out Image for Windows – TeraByte Unlimited. It is not free but good support and free updates until the next major release.

--Joe

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A single license for home use (currently US$49.98) allows installation on up to 5 PC’s.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We were all once "Average Users". We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems, we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

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If you check my shared onedrive you can download the Backup for Non-techincal users.zip file. The zip contains a pdf file where you’ll find a safe place to download Macrium Reflect Free V6. (Yes, it still works on Win 11 just fine). When you install it you’ll have to do an immediate update to bring it up to the latest build of version 6.3.1865.

BTW: The install media created by this version will still boot (at least on W10) after applying CVE-2023-32019 and the activating powershell program and registry fixes!

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BTW: The install media created by this version will still boot (at least on W10) after applying CVE-2023-32019 and the activating powershell program and registry fixes!

the CVE-2023-32019 reg stuff are included in the newly released August 2023 cumulative updates, which are “enabled” by default as Microsoft stated in MS support article 5028407.

IMPORTANT The resolution described in this article has been released enabled by default. To apply the enabled by default resolution, install the Windows update that is dated on or after August 8, 2023. No further user action is required.

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rick41 wrote:

Does anyone know if there is a trustworthy place to still obtain Macrium Reflect Free? Major Geeks, perhaps?…

Hi rick41:

I currently use Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7279 (rel. 11-Jan-2023) and believe the 64-bit download link on the MajorGeeks site at https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html should still download the correct installer (reflect_setup_free_x64.exe), assuming you have a 64-bit OS. Any Macrium Reflect v8.1.x versions released after that, including the latest v8.1.7544 (rel. 06-Jun-2023) are only intended for users with a paid subscription.

If you scroll to the bottom of the Macrium Product Support Policy it notes that Macrium Reflect Free v8.0 will receive security patches, if required, until 01-Jan-2024 and that you can continue to use Macrium Reflect Free v8.0 in perpetuity after 01-Jan-2024, although it will receive no further updates after that date.  That support policy also says that Macrium Reflect Free v8.0 is currently compatible up to and including Win 10 & Win 11 v22H2,  but I don’t know yet if Macrium Reflect Free v8.0 will continue to run correctly if the user updates their OS beyond Win 11 v22H2 after 01-Jan-2024. I’m going to wait until December 2023 or January 2024 to see if Macrium offers a discounted subscription for their paid version of Macrium Reflect for Home before I decide what I’m going to do with my Free v8.0.x edition when it reaches end-of-life.

If you’re interested in using Macrium Reflect, Susan Bradley has posted an instruction video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjpBdzC8fug.
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rick41 wrote:

..I was thinking of switching to a new imaging solution concurrent with my move to Windows 10 on a new pc. Would welcome any recommendations, either free or paid. I assume the paid Macrium Reflect Home (paid) would be well-regarded?

Hi rick41:

You might also be interested in Susan Bradley’s short tutorial for EaseUS Todo Backup at Step by Step Setting Up EaseUS Todo. There are quite few users in this forum who use the Free or Home (paid) edition of this disk imaging software and post in the EaseUS Todo Backup board of this forum, and it’s one of the options I will looking at if I decide to switch to a different program when my Macrium Reflect Free v8.0 reaches EOL on 01-Jan-2014.
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There still is a way to get Reflect Free directly from Macrium. Download the Macrium Reflect Download Agent from this page. Then change the filename to any other name than reflectdlfull.exe. Only if you change the filename will you get a choice between Reflect Free and Reflect Home when running the Download Agent. If you don’t change the filename you get a choice between Home, Workstation and (I believe) Server.

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Thanks for all the helpful information, watchouts, and links, including current and possible future Macrium options.  Any further suggestions/opinions also welcomed.

EDIT:  Oops, meant to post this as a reply to the question I added today.  Oh well…

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lmacri wrote:

rick41 wrote:

..I was thinking of switching to a new imaging solution concurrent with my move to Windows 10 on a new pc. Would welcome any recommendations, either free or paid. I assume the paid Macrium Reflect Home (paid) would be well-regarded?

Hi rick41:

You might also be interested in Susan Bradley’s short tutorial for EaseUS Todo Backup at Step by Step Setting Up EaseUS Todo. There are quite few users in this forum who use the Free or Home (paid) edition of this disk imaging software and post in the EaseUS Todo Backup board of this forum, and it’s one of the options I will looking at if I decide to switch to a different program when my Macrium Reflect Free v8.0 reaches EOL on 01-Jan-2014.
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use an old version of Easeus Todo Backup Free edition (I have the older 12.8 and 13.0 versions of those stored on my usb flash drives). the 13.5 & higher versions of Todo Backup Free no longer include the disk clone/system clone options, which are only featured in the Home & Enterprise editions.

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I am currently using MReflect Free version 7.2

I have/had downloaded the installer for MReflect Free version 8.0.7279 a while back but never installed it.

Would this installer still work?

Would version 8.0 install over my existing version 7.2?  Or do I have to uninstall 7.2 first? Or can I have both versions installed and functional?

If I have to uninstall 7.2, can I retain my prior backups?

Version 7.2 Free provides an option to “check for updates” .  Would that work and be a better way to update, or is that only for paid versions?

Windows 10 Pro x64 v22H2 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 (RIP)

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Tex265 wrote:

Version 7.2 Free provides an option to “check for updates” . Would that work and be a better way to update, or is that only for paid versions?

Hi Tex265:

I have a Win 10 OS, and if I recall correctly I ran a check for updates (Other Tasks | Check for Updates) with Macrium Reflect Free v7.3.6391 back in Jan 2022 and the upgrade to v8.0.6392 was seamless and all my old full disk images on my external hard drive were still recognized. After the upgrade to v8.0 I created a fresh bootable USB for emergency recovery (Other Tasks | Create Rescue Media) and a new full disk image just to be safe but I don’t think that was really necessary.
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A couple of weeks ago I installed a version of Macrium Free 8.????, that was not the last update, from an install file I downloaded some time back. I had no problem installing it, and updating it to the last version of MR8 they released (check for updates). Then I used it to image the Win10 Home v1903 machine before I upgraded it to Win10 22H2. Imaged the machine again after I updated and installed all the programs.

Worked like a champ.

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Thanks to all for your info and commentary.

Now that I have looked at the size of MR Free 8 vs MR Free 7, it is quite a bit larger.  So if all I am after is a full manual backup monthly and restore capability, what would I actually gain by updating since both would do the job and neither is going to receive further updates?

I haven’t suffered from lack of updating my version 7.2 (that I know of anyway).

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@PKCano

Was this a first time install?  Or an upgrade/update as I am contemplating?

IF @Imacri is remembering correctly, the program updater “should” work – right?

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The install I talked about was a first-time install on that machine.
The installation of v8 over v7 should just be an upgrade without any problems. All of your images and definitions are usable in either version and your preferences should be retained.

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Tex265 wrote:

IF @Imacri is remembering correctly, the program updater “should” work – right?

Hi Tex265:

This is a screenshot of the pop-up I first saw in Macrium Reflect Free v7.3.6284 on 06-Nov-2021. I initially clicked “Later” because I wanted to wait for feedback from other users just to make sure no one was experiencing problems with the upgrade, and on 06-Jan-2022 I launched Macrium Reflect Free v7.3.6391 (the last v7.x update released 18-Nov-2021 according to the v7.x release notes <here>) and clicked “Now” to do the in-place upgrade.

If you run a check for updates in your current Macrium Reflect Free v7.3.x and don’t see that prompt asking if you would like to upgrade to v8.x then it’s possible you clicked “Never” at some point after Nov 2021 to stop that prompt from nagging you to perform the upgrade.

Tex265 wrote:

… So if all I am after is a full manual backup monthly and restore capability, what would I actually gain by updating since both would do the job and neither is going to receive further updates?…

If you don’t upgrade to Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.x you won’t receive the feature changes and bug fixes listed in the v8.x release notes <here> for updates released between Nov 2021 and Nov 2022. However, most of those feature changes only apply to the paid version of Macrium Reflect, and many of the bug fixes in v8.0.x were added to improve compatibility with Windows 11.

If you’re only using Macrium Reflect Free to create full disk images of your Win 10 computer then I don’t think you would notice any major differences between the v7.3.x and v8.0.x user interfaces, but if  Macrium Reflect Free v7.3.x is working on your Win 10 v22H2 computer without any glitches then you’ll have to decide for yourself whether you want to upgrade to v8.0.x or not.
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FYI

Black Friday Sale 50% off Reflect 8 Home Annual Plan

Highlights
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Black Friday Sale – Get a massive 50% off PLUS 6 months free!
Black Friday Sale – 4 Pack Special – Get a HUGE 75% off PLUS 6 months free!

-The Black Friday Sale 2023 offer is only for the Home Annual Plan. If I am not mistaken this plan is based on annual subscription model. Unfortunately, the perpetual plan of One-Time Purchase is not included in this Black Friday Sale offer.

-An extra 6-month free subsription is included in the offer.

-The Black Friday Sale Offer expires November 28th, 2023.

HTH.

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Better off with the one off license. You still get bug fixes but no new features.

I am using V7 paid without issue.

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Paul T wrote:

Better off with the one off license. You still get bug fixes but no new features.

I see that for One-Time-Purchase it says, “Access to minor updates & fixes for this version only.”  So does this cover all bug fixes?  No need to be concerned about the word “minor” here?

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I’m a Macrium user and use the “one time purchase” version.

So does this cover all bug fixes?

Yes and even some improvements.  What it does not provide is new features.  This is not issue from me as I prefer to create image backups manually (not scheduled) directly from the “Definition Files” tab, then “Run”, then choose the type of image I want i.e. Full, Incremental or Differential.

Macrium is reliable and restoring images has been flawless.  I don’t need new features. It’s got everything I need for POM.

If I was in an IT role managing groups of machines, the new features the subscription model provides could a good thing.

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Just checking – so if we are using the Free version of Macrium – I have one on Ver 7 and one on Ver 8 – is there any reason to buy the Home version?

I use Macrium once a month – sometimes more – to make backups before I do the monthly MS updates, and so far it has worked fine on both of my computers.

Is there any reason to purchase the Home version?

Thanks!

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I’m using v8, and don’t find any reason to buy Home version until v8 stops working. It works on Win10 and 11, so far. And there was an update last month, which may be the last one it gets.

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which may be the last one it gets.

I have the paid stand alone Home version and can confirm it will continue to get bug fixes and such just not new features.

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The free version 8 runs out of updates Jan 1, I think.

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I’ve been using Macrium as one of the free image backup programs suggested long ago by Ask Woody for the recommended approach to installing Windows patches.  I only use it for that because of the risk of OS patches leaving Windows unbootable or otherwise severely impaired.  I’m not sure I remember, but I think the other suggestion was EaseUS Todo.  To me, clearly the goal was to provide more than one choice.

I think it would be a service to provide updated advice for applying Windows patches wisely?

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That’s exactly what the master patch list is all about.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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Susan Bradley wrote:

That’s exactly what the master patch list is all about.

“Master Patch List” sounds like a list of patches approved for install plus information about patches not yet approved?  I’m interested once I know what patches I want to install, how to best go about that, including suggested free image backup software recommended.  Does the MPL cover that?  If not, is it covered somewhere else?  Is there perhaps an obsolete MPL to look at before having to commit to Plus membership?

-Dave

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commit to Plus membership

Come on in, the water’s fine.

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MPL is an “install this, don’t install that” list.

There is plenty of discussion here about backup: https://www.askwoody.com/forums/forum/askwoody-support/backup/

Plus membership is very cheap and very worthwhile. No downside!

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The work that this site does to track and report Windows Update issues makes Plus membership a bargain!  Add to that the other resources that it makes available (e.g., Q&A with an informed community, knowledge base, etc.) and membership yields dividends.

I’ve spent a lot more and received a lot less for other things compared to Plus membership.

And no, I’m not affiliated with the site or its management and these unsolicited opinions are my own.

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