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  • Mary Jo Foley: There’s a reason why MS is starting to test Win10 20H1 so early… and, no, it isn’t because they’re switching to annual releases

    Home Forums AskWoody blog Mary Jo Foley: There’s a reason why MS is starting to test Win10 20H1 so early… and, no, it isn’t because they’re switching to annual releases

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     Alex5723 3 months, 2 weeks ago.

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    • #334921 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      Crestfallen. Yesterday, Mary Jo Foley published a report relying on her sources inside Microsoft about the surprising “Skip ahead” testing of Win10 20
      [See the full post at: Mary Jo Foley: There’s a reason why MS is starting to test Win10 20H1 so early… and, no, it isn’t because they’re switching to annual releases]

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    • #334994 Reply

      b
      AskWoody Plus

      “… Windows core OS — which (confusingly) is not the same thing as WCOS [Windows Core OS]…”

      Other companies try to compete along these lines, but Microsoft are the absolute masters.

      Knuckle dragger Cannon fodder Chump Daft glutton Idiot Crazy/ignorant Toxic drinker Blockhead Unwashed mass Seeker/"Sucker" (Group ASAP) Win10 v.1903

    • #335007 Reply

      anonymous

      It seems that the Azure tail is now wagging the Win10 dog.

      At least Satya was proud enough to announce it long ago…

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    • #335333 Reply

      WildBill
      AskWoody Plus

      And some others guessed the super-early 20H1 code drop was related to Windows Lite, the rumored version of Windows that looks nothing like Windows (still nope, I hear).

      Wasn’t Windows RT supposed to be kind of a “Windows Lite”? According to Wikipedia:

      However, while Windows RT inherits the appearance and functionality of Windows 8, it has a number of limitations; it can only execute software that is digitally signed by Microsoft (which includes pre-loaded software and Windows Store apps), and it lacks certain developer-oriented features.

      Or is “Windows Lite” Actually… Windows in S Mode?!

      Windows 8.1, 64-bit, now in Group B!
      Wild Bill Rides Again...

      • #335334 Reply

        warrenrumak
        AskWoody Plus

        Wasn’t Windows RT supposed to be kind of a “Windows Lite”?

        Sort of…. but what Microsoft wasn’t capable of doing back in 2012 when Windows RT was first introduced, was rip out the Win32 API.  Apart from the “Settings” app, almost all of the Windows GUI was still implemented in Win32.

        That’s what they’re really aiming for — the ability to have a core Windows kernel, with Windows Runtime and/or Win32 programming APIs layered entirely on top.  They could therefore ship variations of Windows that only include the APIs required.

        Shipping a version of Windows 10 or Windows Server without Win32 would be really great for single-purpose devices like kiosks….. smaller disk footprint (the entire SysWoW64 directory could probably go away on 64-bit systems, saving 1+ GB), faster Windows Updates, fewer security vulnerabilities, and far fewer avenues of attack for malware.  Almost all Windows malware today depends on Win32.

        At the same time, shipping a version of Windows 10 or Windows Server without UWP would be great for non-GUI, like a Hyper-V container host, Azure, IoT or whatever else.

        It’s also worth keeping in mind that any architectural improvements that Microsoft makes to support Azure (e.g. being able to apply kernel patches and network driver updates without rebooting…. yeah, they actually have that) will only have a positive effect on Windows Server and desktop operating systems.  And if Azure ends up funding a lot of Windows development, then it probably means we’ll get new versions of Windows free forever……. similar to how Apple subsidizes its free macOS upgrades by charging a lot of money for hardware.

    • #335383 Reply

      Alex5723
      AskWoody Plus

      Windows Lite is cloud based aimed at Google’ ChromeOS.

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