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      • #218569 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        We just got a bunch of patches for Win10: KB 4458469 takes Win10 version 1803 to build 17134.319 KB 4457136 turns Win10 1709 into build 16299.697 KB 4
        [See the full post at: Massive bug fixes for Win10 1803, 1709, 1703 and 1607]

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      • #218571 Reply
        abbodi86
        AskWoody_MVP

        No love for Win 7/8.1 preview rollups? 😀

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      • #218580 Reply
        geekdom
        AskWoody Plus

        Addresses an issue with evaluating the compatibility status of the Windows ecosystem to help ensure application and device compatibility for all updates to Windows.

        Does this statement mean that upgrade resistance is futile?

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        • #218588 Reply
          WildBill
          AskWoody Plus

          Obviously not installing Previews… but a key question. If this “… evaluating the compatibility status of the Windows ecosystem to help ensure application and device compatibility for all updates to Windows” will be carried over to October’s “B Week”, do I have to create “Group H (Hybrid)”?! Or finally join Group B? Sounds like KB2976978, the “Compatibility update” I’ve been avoiding for a Looong Time. A new way to sneak that in?!!

          Windows 8.1, 64-bit, back in Group A... & leaning toward Windows 10 V2004. As long as it's a Lot Less Buggy!
          Wild Bill Rides Again...

          • #218589 Reply
            PKCano
            Da Boss

            Hmmm. If that’s the case, consider KB2952664 for Win7.

        • #218673 Reply
          abbodi86
          AskWoody_MVP

          Yep, KB2952664 and KB2976978 are now part of the Windows 7/8.1 Monthly Rollup

          insidious move

          but on the other hand, eliminating their effect is easy
          https://pastebin.com/zeJFe08G

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          • #218760 Reply
            PKCano
            Da Boss

            Will they be included in the Security-only Updates as well?

            • #218982 Reply
              abbodi86
              AskWoody_MVP

              I don’t think so
              they are not interested in tracking plain security patching

              even if they dare to do it, Security-Only updates are not cumulative, so the next month update won’t have it

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          • #218766 Reply
            anonymous
            Guest

            abbodi

            I’d have to hear a lot more about those fixes before allowing that into my system. Including how to get it out if future problems arose.

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            • #218984 Reply
              abbodi86
              AskWoody_MVP

              What fixes? you mean Monthly Rollups? or the W10-Block.cmd script?

              • #218990 Reply
                Microfix
                AskWoody MVP

                @abbodi86, I was under the impression that anon’s query was pertaining to the block-script, and how to reverse the script commands to default should something go wrong.

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              • #218996 Reply
                abbodi86
                AskWoody_MVP

                Nothing will go wrong 😀
                all deleted registry/tasks are not part of Windows functioning

                on the other hand, no, there are no reverse script
                reinstalling KB2952664 or Monthly Rollup should restore them

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          • #218777 Reply
            Mike87
            AskWoody Lounger

            We still might be OK for a while. I don’t know about KB2976978 but I listed Windows 7 KB4457144 and KB4457139 files in a spreadsheet and don’t see any of the 36 odd files from KB2952664 as yet. I have no doubt that they will be included sooner or later.

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            • #218983 Reply
              abbodi86
              AskWoody_MVP

              KB4457139 already have it

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          • #219045 Reply
            WildBill
            AskWoody Plus

            Yep, KB2952664 and KB2976978 are now part of the Windows 7/8.1 Monthly Rollup

            insidious move

            Is this for October? I still see KB2976978 (Win8.1) listed separately in Windows Update.

            Windows 8.1, 64-bit, back in Group A... & leaning toward Windows 10 V2004. As long as it's a Lot Less Buggy!
            Wild Bill Rides Again...

            • #219046 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              Starting with the 2018-09 Preview Rollups for Win7/8.1 and from then on.

              • #219052 Reply
                WildBill
                AskWoody Plus

                Well, since the Preview Rollup for Sept. becomes the Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Oct., guess I’m switching to Group B in October. BTW, since the Cumulative IE11 Update has to be downloaded from the Update Catalog, when MS-DEFCON goes up, do I install IE11 before the rollups & other updates, or After? Asking for Sept…

                Windows 8.1, 64-bit, back in Group A... & leaning toward Windows 10 V2004. As long as it's a Lot Less Buggy!
                Wild Bill Rides Again...

              • #219055 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                My preference is SO first, then IE CU – no reboot in between necessary.

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      • #218581 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Just got a new computer and forcibly introduced to win 10 – can I leave things shut down on metered connection and update the cumulative update for 1703 directly from the Microsoft update catalogue?

        Thanks!

        • #218584 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Yes, you can download and install manually from the Catalog. You will also need the IE Flash update.

          • #218585 Reply
            anonymous
            Guest

            Thanks 🙂

      • #218591 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        The MS pages for KB4457139 now state KB3177467 will be required for Win7

        Windows cumulative updates require that you install the latest servicing stack update (SSU) for your operating system before installing the latest cumulative update (LCU). This helps to mitigate potential issues while installing the LCU.

        If you are using Windows Update, the latest SSU (KB3177467) will be offered to you automatically. To get the stand-alone package for the latest SSU, go to the Microsoft Update Catalog.

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        • #218604 Reply
          WildBill
          AskWoody Plus

          Is this for certain versions of Windows? Or for All that are utilizing the LCU? Including Win8.1?!?

          Windows 8.1, 64-bit, back in Group A... & leaning toward Windows 10 V2004. As long as it's a Lot Less Buggy!
          Wild Bill Rides Again...

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          • #218605 Reply
            PKCano
            Da Boss

            KB3177467 is an SSU for Win7. Fixed that above.

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      • #218635 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        PKCano, I’m hoping to state clearly in this topic discussion space that this is the same KB3177467 SSU for Win7 that many of us have installed from many months ago. There is not a reissued SSU under the same KB number that requires a new install at this time. If you have it already, you are done.

        Do I understand this correctly?

        • #218642 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Do I understand this correctly?

          Yes. The Sept 2016 patch. One of the last “speedup” patches when WU was scanning forever before the “invention” of the Cumulative updates. THAT SAME ONE. If you have it installed from back then, you’re done.

          The problem people had missing it is, it was an exclusive install. It would not show up in the WU queue unless there were no other pending important updates (checked or unchecked). There is an extensive discussion in the “Solution for error 0x8000FFF” main blog thread several days ago.

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      • #218646 Reply
        b
        AskWoody Plus

        KB 4458469 takes Win10 version 1803 to build 17134.319

        Installed on two laptops without any apparent issues.

      • #218655 Reply
        Geo
        AskWoody Lounger

        Group A,Win 7 home users you don`t need to install any previews.

      • #218690 Reply
        Geoff King
        AskWoody Lounger

        KB 4458469 takes Win10 version 1803 to build 17134.319

        Installed on two laptops without any apparent issues.

        Not seeing KB 4458469 on either of my otherwise up to date machines.

        Possible phased roll out ?

         

        • #218698 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          Hi, are you running Win 10 Pro by any chance?

          I received the update 14hrs ago on two computers running Win 10 Home, but I’m not being offered KB4458469 on my (also otherwise up-to-date) Win 10 Pro laptop no matter how many times I check. There’s a thread in ten forums where a few people are reporting the same thing, some are specifying they’re on Win 10 pro, the others I’m not sure about.

          Edit to remove HTML – Please use the “Text” tab in the post entry box when you copy/paste

        • #218728 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          If you have Win10 Settings at CBB/SAC, you will only see the Patch Tuesday CUs (they are “security”).

          I believe if you want to see the CUs released on other Tuesdays (or whenever MS releases them), you will need to set CB/SAC (Targeted) b/c they are like “Previews” in Win7/8.1 (non-security=bug fixes).

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        • #218734 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          I haven’t received this one either. I’m on Win 1803 Home.

      • #218758 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        I haven’t received this one either in all my 3 computers. I’m on Win 1803 Home in all 3.

      • #218767 Reply
        Mike87
        AskWoody Lounger

        Just in case anyone is curious:
        Upon reviewing the file list it appears that the Windows 7 September 2018 Preview KB4457139 contains an updated version of our old friend KB2977759
        “Compatibility update for Windows 7” from 2016 GWT days.

         

      • #218925 Reply
        JohnW
        AskWoody Plus

        Win 10 Pro here.  I got caught up with updates yesterday (after taking an image), and so far no issues.

        KB4134661 and KB4056254 still hidden, though!  😀

      • #219342 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        I’ve been going through the Patch Lady recommendations for this month and have a question on the following patch on my computer:  KB4054530 which is  4.7.2 .Net.  This patch was listed as having a 7-10-18 release date in the discussion of it on the Lounge.  I unchecked it at the time and now it is listed as an important update which if you uncheck it and go back to the page with the download button, it still shows the same number of patches.  Now looking  at the important updates, it is rechecked.  It appears that you cannot uncheck it now.  The last information on the master patch list in July shows do not not at this time.  Have the issues with 4.7.2 been resolved?  My network is just two PC’s and we do not have an exchange server as each computer retrieves it’s email individually.  Would it be advisable to hide the update or install it?   Thank you for helping me with this issue.

        • #219346 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          You don’t say what version of Windows you are running.

          But the .NET patches have had quite a bit of trouble lately. If I were you, I would hide it for now and wait for a better time to install it unless you have applications that need .NET 4.7.2.

        • #219379 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          anon.2 discussing anonymous#post-219342

          Does this condition explain the described observation? Where:

          KB4054530 is a non security related update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4.7.2 for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2, normally classed optional

          anon219342 has existing need for KB4054530, because of some installed feature of some installed application software

          Windows Update recognizes need and promotes KB4054530 to recommended, indicated by italicized text displayed in WU interface

          anon219342 has selected, give me recommended updates same as important, in settings

          WU preselects KB4054530 with a checked box

          Further, if anon219342 had settings at automatic (not recommended here), none of this would have been observed

          I was trying to imagine how the described condition would occur, and this is what I developed, does it fit?

      • #219363 Reply
        JohnW
        AskWoody Plus

        According to Martin Brinkmann, KB4054530 is a non security related update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4.7.2 for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2  (I realize that Woody posted a link to this article in July, but re-posting here only in context of the current question regarding the .NET update)

        https://www.ghacks.net/2018/07/10/microsoft-windows-security-updates-july-2018-release-overview/

        I believe that I noticed this patch as an unchecked optional update the last time I updated my copy of Windows 7 Pro.  I left it alone…

        Here is the Microsoft blog listing the fixes in this update:  https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/dotnet/2018/07/10/net-framework-4-7-2-is-available-on-windows-update-wsus-and-mu-catalog/

      • #219402 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Anon219342 here.  The operating system is Windows 7 Professional-SP1.  For Anon 219379, the KB4054530 is not italicized in my Windows Update. “anon219342 has selected, give me recommended updates same as important, in settings WU preselects KB4054530 with a checked box”  I just checked the settings and they are set to “give recommended updates the same way I receive important updates”.  Updates are NOT set to automatic–they are set to “check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them”. This setting has not been changed from time prior to KB4054530.  However if anon 219379 is correct, then how come KB4054530 was unchecked when it first arrived which I left it alone in Windows update when I did my last updates?  This is just what JohnW- post 219363-did.  For PKCano,  how do I tell if I have applications which require .Net 4.7.2?  Thank you all very much for your assistance in finding a solution to this issue.

      • #219410 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Anon 219342 again.  Could this be tied to the other KB4457918 Security and Quality roll up for .NET framework 3.5.1, 4.5.2, 4.6, 4.6.1, 4.7, 4.7.1, 4.7.2 for Windows 7 and Server 2008 R2 for X64?  By the way, my system is Windows 7 Pro, 64 bit, if that makes a difference.  Thanks again for your help.

      • #219483 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        KB4457127   breaks address lists on outlook 

        outlook address book "the operation failed" exchange 2016 cu10 from exchangeserver

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