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    • #218569 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      We just got a bunch of patches for Win10: KB 4458469 takes Win10 version 1803 to build 17134.319 KB 4457136 turns Win10 1709 into build 16299.697 KB 4
      [See the full post at: Massive bug fixes for Win10 1803, 1709, 1703 and 1607]

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    • #218571 Reply

      abbodi86
      AskWoody_MVP

      No love for Win 7/8.1 preview rollups? 馃榾

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    • #218580 Reply

      geekdom
      AskWoody Plus

      Addresses an issue with evaluating the compatibility status of the Windows ecosystem to help ensure application and device compatibility for all updates to Windows.

      Does this statement mean that upgrade resistance is futile?

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      • #218588 Reply

        WildBill
        AskWoody Plus

        Obviously not installing Previews… but a key question. If this “… evaluating the compatibility status of the Windows ecosystem to help ensure application and device compatibility for all updates to Windows” will be carried over to October’s “B Week”, do I have to create “Group H (Hybrid)”?! Or finally join Group B? Sounds like KB2976978, the “Compatibility update” I’ve been avoiding for a Looong Time. A new way to sneak that in?!!

        Windows 8.1, 64-bit, now in Group B!
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        • #218589 Reply

          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Hmmm. If that’s the case, consider KB2952664 for Win7.

      • #218673 Reply

        abbodi86
        AskWoody_MVP

        Yep, KB2952664 and KB2976978 are now part of the Windows 7/8.1 Monthly Rollup

        insidious move

        but on the other hand, eliminating their effect is easy
        https://pastebin.com/zeJFe08G

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        • #218760 Reply

          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Will they be included in the Security-only Updates as well?

          • #218982 Reply

            abbodi86
            AskWoody_MVP

            I don’t think so
            they are not interested in tracking plain security patching

            even if they dare to do it, Security-Only updates are not cumulative, so the next month update won’t have it

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        • #218766 Reply

          anonymous

          abbodi

          I’d have to hear a lot more about those fixes before聽allowing that into my system. Including how to get it out if future problems arose.

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          • #218984 Reply

            abbodi86
            AskWoody_MVP

            What fixes? you mean Monthly Rollups? or the W10-Block.cmd script?

            • #218990 Reply

              Microfix
              Da Boss

              @abbodi86, I was under the impression that anon’s query was pertaining to the block-script, and how to reverse the script commands to default should something go wrong.

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            • #218996 Reply

              abbodi86
              AskWoody_MVP

              Nothing will go wrong 馃榾
              all deleted registry/tasks are not part of Windows functioning

              on the other hand, no, there are no reverse script
              reinstalling KB2952664 or Monthly Rollup should restore them

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        • #218777 Reply

          Mike87
          AskWoody Lounger

          We still might be OK for a while. I don’t know about KB2976978 but I listed Windows 7 KB4457144 and KB4457139 files in a spreadsheet and don’t see any of the 36 odd files from KB2952664 as yet. I have no doubt that they will be included sooner or later.

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          • #218983 Reply

            abbodi86
            AskWoody_MVP

            KB4457139 already have it

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        • #219045 Reply

          WildBill
          AskWoody Plus

          Yep, KB2952664 and KB2976978 are now part of the Windows 7/8.1 Monthly Rollup

          insidious move

          Is this for October? I still see KB2976978 (Win8.1) listed separately in Windows Update.

          Windows 8.1, 64-bit, now in Group B!
          Wild Bill Rides Again...

          • #219046 Reply

            PKCano
            Da Boss

            Starting with the 2018-09 Preview Rollups for Win7/8.1 and from then on.

            • #219052 Reply

              WildBill
              AskWoody Plus

              Well, since the Preview Rollup for Sept. becomes the Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Oct., guess I’m switching to Group B in October. BTW, since the Cumulative IE11 Update has to be downloaded from the Update Catalog, when MS-DEFCON goes up, do I install IE11 before the rollups & other updates, or After? Asking for Sept…

              Windows 8.1, 64-bit, now in Group B!
              Wild Bill Rides Again...

            • #219055 Reply

              PKCano
              Da Boss

              My preference is SO first, then IE CU – no reboot in between necessary.

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    • #218581 Reply

      anonymous

      Just got a new computer and forcibly introduced to win 10 – can I leave things shut down on metered connection and update the cumulative update for 1703 directly from the Microsoft update catalogue?

      Thanks!

      • #218584 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        Yes, you can download and install manually from the Catalog. You will also need the IE Flash update.

        • #218585 Reply

          anonymous

          Thanks 馃檪

    • #218591 Reply

      PKCano
      Da Boss

      The MS pages for KB4457139 now state KB3177467 will be required for Win7

      Windows cumulative updates require that you install the latest servicing stack update (SSU) for your operating system聽before聽installing the latest cumulative update (LCU). This helps to mitigate potential issues while installing the LCU.

      If you are using Windows Update, the latest SSU聽(KB3177467) will be offered to you automatically.聽To get the stand-alone package for the latest聽SSU, go to the聽Microsoft Update Catalog.

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      • #218604 Reply

        WildBill
        AskWoody Plus

        Is this for certain versions of Windows? Or for All that are utilizing the LCU? Including Win8.1?!?

        Windows 8.1, 64-bit, now in Group B!
        Wild Bill Rides Again...

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        • #218605 Reply

          PKCano
          Da Boss

          KB3177467 is an SSU for Win7. Fixed that above.

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    • #218635 Reply

      anonymous

      PKCano, I’m hoping to state clearly in this topic discussion space that this is the same KB3177467 SSU for Win7 that many of us have installed from many months ago. There is not a reissued SSU under the same KB number that requires a new install at this time. If you have it already, you are done.

      Do I understand this correctly?

      • #218642 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        Do I understand this correctly?

        Yes. The Sept 2016 patch. One of the last “speedup” patches when WU was scanning forever before the “invention” of the Cumulative updates. THAT SAME ONE. If you have it installed from back then, you’re done.

        The problem people had missing it is, it was an exclusive install. It would not show up in the WU queue unless there were no other pending important updates (checked or unchecked). There is an extensive discussion in the “Solution for error 0x8000FFF” main blog thread several days ago.

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    • #218646 Reply

      b
      AskWoody Plus

      KB 4458469 takes Win10 version 1803 to build 17134.319

      Installed on two laptops without any apparent issues.

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    • #218655 Reply

      Geo
      AskWoody Plus

      Group A,Win 7 home users you don`t need to install any previews.

    • #218690 Reply

      Geoff King
      AskWoody Lounger

      KB 4458469 takes Win10 version 1803 to build 17134.319

      Installed on two laptops without any apparent issues.

      Not seeing KB 4458469 on either of my otherwise up to date machines.

      Possible phased roll out ?

       

      • #218698 Reply

        anonymous

        Hi, are you running Win 10 Pro by any chance?

        I received the update 14hrs ago on two computers running Win 10 Home, but I’m not being offered KB4458469 on my (also otherwise up-to-date) Win 10 Pro laptop no matter how many times I check. There’s a thread in ten forums where a few people are reporting the same thing, some are specifying they’re on Win 10 pro, the others I’m not sure about.

        Edit to remove HTML – Please use the 鈥淭ext鈥 tab in the post entry box when you copy/paste

      • #218728 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        If you have Win10 Settings at CBB/SAC, you will only see the Patch Tuesday CUs (they are “security”).

        I believe if you want to see the CUs released on other Tuesdays (or whenever MS releases them), you will need to set CB/SAC (Targeted) b/c they are like “Previews” in Win7/8.1 (non-security=bug fixes).

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      • #218734 Reply

        anonymous

        I haven’t received this one either. I’m on Win 1803 Home.

    • #218758 Reply

      anonymous

      I haven鈥檛 received this one either in all my 3 computers. I鈥檓 on Win 1803 Home in all 3.

    • #218767 Reply

      Mike87
      AskWoody Lounger

      Just in case anyone is curious:
      Upon reviewing the file list it appears that the Windows 7 September 2018 Preview KB4457139 contains an updated version of our old friend KB2977759
      “Compatibility update for Windows 7” from 2016 GWT days.

       

    • #218925 Reply

      JohnW
      AskWoody Plus

      Win 10 Pro here.聽 I got caught up with updates yesterday (after taking an image), and so far no issues.

      KB4134661 and KB4056254 still hidden, though!聽 馃榾

    • #219342 Reply

      anonymous

      I’ve been going through the Patch Lady recommendations for this month and have a question on the following patch on my computer:聽 KB4054530 which is聽 4.7.2 .Net.聽 This patch was listed as having a 7-10-18 release date in the discussion of it on the Lounge.聽 I unchecked it at the time and now it is listed as an important update which if you uncheck it and go back to the page with the download button, it still shows the same number of patches.聽 Now looking聽 at the important updates, it is rechecked.聽 It appears that you cannot uncheck it now.聽 The last information on the master patch list in July shows do not not at this time.聽 Have the issues with 4.7.2 been resolved?聽 My network is just two PC’s and we do not have an exchange server as each computer retrieves it’s email individually.聽 Would it be advisable to hide the update or install it?聽聽 Thank you for helping me with this issue.

      • #219346 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        You don’t say what version of Windows you are running.

        But the .NET patches have had quite a bit of trouble lately. If I were you, I would hide it for now and wait for a better time to install it unless you have applications that need .NET 4.7.2.

      • #219379 Reply

        anonymous

        anon.2 discussing anonymous#post-219342

        Does this condition explain the described observation? Where:

        KB4054530 is a non security related update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4.7.2 for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2, normally classed optional

        anon219342 has existing need for KB4054530, because of some installed feature of some installed application software

        Windows Update recognizes need and promotes KB4054530 to recommended, indicated by italicized text displayed in WU interface

        anon219342 has selected, give me recommended updates same as important, in settings

        WU preselects KB4054530 with a checked box

        Further, if anon219342 had settings at automatic (not recommended here), none of this would have been observed

        I was trying to imagine how the described condition would occur, and this is what I developed, does it fit?

    • #219363 Reply

      JohnW
      AskWoody Plus

      According to Martin Brinkmann, KB4054530 is a non security related update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4.7.2 for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2聽 (I realize that Woody posted a link to this article in July, but re-posting here only in context of the current question regarding the .NET update)

      https://www.ghacks.net/2018/07/10/microsoft-windows-security-updates-july-2018-release-overview/

      I believe that I noticed this patch as an unchecked optional update the last time I updated my copy of Windows 7 Pro.聽 I left it alone…

      Here is the Microsoft blog listing the fixes in this update:聽 https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/dotnet/2018/07/10/net-framework-4-7-2-is-available-on-windows-update-wsus-and-mu-catalog/

    • #219402 Reply

      anonymous

      Anon219342 here.聽 The operating system is Windows 7 Professional-SP1.聽 For Anon 219379, the KB4054530 is not italicized in my Windows Update. “anon219342 has selected, give me recommended updates same as important, in settings WU preselects KB4054530 with a checked box”聽 I just checked the settings and they are set to “give recommended updates the same way I receive important updates”.聽 Updates are NOT set to automatic–they are set to “check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them”. This setting has not been changed from time prior to KB4054530.聽 However if anon 219379 is correct, then how come KB4054530 was unchecked when it first arrived which I left it alone in Windows update when I did my last updates?聽 This is just what JohnW- post 219363-did.聽 For PKCano,聽 how do I tell if I have applications which require .Net 4.7.2?聽 Thank you all very much for your assistance in finding a solution to this issue.

    • #219410 Reply

      anonymous

      Anon 219342 again.聽 Could this be tied to the other KB4457918 Security and Quality roll up for .NET framework 3.5.1, 4.5.2, 4.6, 4.6.1, 4.7, 4.7.1, 4.7.2 for Windows 7 and Server 2008 R2 for X64?聽 By the way, my system is Windows 7 Pro, 64 bit, if that makes a difference.聽 Thanks again for your help.

    • #219483 Reply

      anonymous

      KB4457127聽 聽breaks address lists on outlook聽

      outlook address book "the operation failed" exchange 2016 cu10 from exchangeserver

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