Master patch list for August 30, 2022

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I’ve updated the Master Patch List today for the preview releases as well as clarifying a couple of items. Two concerning issues are still being track
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Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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Susan Bradley wrote:

luckily his son-in-law knows a thing or two about deploying Windows.”

I am assuming you are hinting that he knew the bypass tool that has been around since 2018 to get around bitlocker. MS still has not fix this bypass tool that was release.

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No he reinstalled Windows.   Any of the bypass tools I’ve seen really aren’t a “reset” the password tool.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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Update for Windows Security platform – KB5007651 (Version 1.0.2207.20002)

I received this update just now. I installed it. It’s not in the Microsoft Update Catalog. It shows in neither my updates nor my programs. It does, however, show in WUMgr installed updates.

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I see a Master Patch List through August 26, but not one through August 30.

Is it the one through August 26 that you have updated? If so, where is KB5012170? If I read your blog for this correctly, BitLocker should be OFF and KB5012170 should be deferred/hidden. But, I would like some confirmation on this.

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I just clicked on the Master Patch listing, and it’s updated through August 29th, contrary to what’s shown on the introductory page with the links to click for the version of the patch list you want.

Also, when I took a look at the latest patch list dated August 29th, KB5012170 is listed under a yellow banner labeled “Various OS”, just above the yellow banner for Windows 11 and just below the listing for the latest version of the Brave browser.

All of the above is based upon selecting the “HTML” version of the list, which should open it in a new tab within your browser.

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Bob99 wrote:

I just clicked on the Master Patch listing, and it’s updated through August 29th, contrary to what’s shown on the introductory page with the links to click for the version of the patch list you want.

I am not following you.
No matter whether I click on the link:

or the tab:

they both lead to the same page:

where August 26 is the latest entry. The ‘Excel’ and ‘HTML’ link produce the same thing, i.e., what I see in my attachment in post #2473551.

What is your URL for the Master Patch List which shows the MPL for August 29?

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At the top of the whole PDF sheet, I think it says “Sheet updates 8/29/2022” (if I squint to read the small print).

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PKCano wrote:

At the top of the whole PDF sheet, I think it says “Sheet updates 8/29/2022” (if I squint to read the small print).

???
Can you give me a screenshot? so I can squint on the right page.

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OK. OK. I found it. The emphasis is on PDF or HTML. KB5012170 doesn’t show up in the Excel document, which is the problem. I have been in the habit of choosing ‘Excel’ and never thought there would be a difference among the four choices.

And then you have to look under the Various OS heading (above the Windows 11 heading and the Windows 10 heading).

Whew!!

postscript: It’s there in the Excel document now — under the Various OS heading, too. I think my eyes are going crazy.

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I didn’t change the tab at the bottom, just the date at the top.

All four are the same info.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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I’m trying to use wushowhide for the first time to hide KB5012170.  When I run it, I get an error:

An error occurred while troubleshooting:
Troubleshooting has been disabled by Group Policy.

I have updates paused through Settings > Windows Update > Advanced Options > Pause Until.  I have also configured these policies, as listed under Advanced Settings:

Notify to download updates
Exclude drivers from Windows quality updates
Set Automatic Update options
Target release version for feature updates
Target product version for feature updates

Are any of these settings keeping wushowhide from running?

Thanks…

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Follow-up:  I looked at other Group Policy settings and found that “Troubleshooting:  Allow users to access recommended troubleshooting for known problems” was disabled.  I changed it to “Not Configured.”  Now wushowhide runs, but none of the current updates are showing up…

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cobber2076 wrote:

Are any of these settings keeping wushowhide from running?

Yes.
wushowhide uses the Windows Update Service to search for updates – the same as Windows Update does.
If you have updates Paused or Deferred, Windows Update service will not run.
Thus, you will see no updates either in WU or with wushowhide.

cobber2076 wrote:

Notify to download updates Exclude drivers from Windows quality updates Set Automatic Update options Target release version for feature updates Target product version for feature updates

If you have the “2” (notify download/install) set with Group Policy you can do this:

+ Disconnect from the Internet.
+ In Windows Update, Resume updates. It will fail b/c you are not connected to the Internet.
+ Restart your computer and reconnect to the Internet.
+ The next time Windows Update scans for updates on its own schedule, the available updates will appear in the WU queue. But they won’t download/install b/c you have set the “2” in GP.
+ Run wushowhide and hide the updates you don’t want to install. Run wushowhide again and verify that only the updates you want are available.
+ Go back to WU – all the updates will still be there, even the ones you hid. Now, you have to clear the WU queue b/c what you see in the queue is what will be downloaded.
+ To clear the queue, Pause updates, wait a minute, Resume updates. This will cause WU to search for updates, but this time the list will be minus the ones you hid. The updates will download and install – wait for the Restart.

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I would never have sussed out those steps on my own – many thanks.

I looked for this procedure in the knowledge base but didn’t find it.  If it’s not there, may I humbly suggest its addition – for guys like me that are new to wushowhide?  🙂

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AKB2000016 and AKB3000013 (scroll down to @Matador ‘s method for the easiest implementation in the latter).

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Silly question time: I want to use wushowide to hide KB5012170 on my W10 Home laptop (I have discovered the TPM is “Ready” but I can find no password, nor any way to turn it off). My Windows Update is currently paused. Am I right in thinking I download wushowide, switch to a metered connection (download updates over a metered connection is NOT enabled), run Windows Update, then run wushowide following the instructions in Susan’s videoclip, hide KB5012170, then Pause Updates once again, remove the metered connection and re-run Windows Update. Or have I missed anything? Many thanks for all your help.

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Download wushowhide. I like to keep it handy on my desktop. It doesn’t “install” it just runs. When using it, click “Advanced” then uncheck “apply changes.” Then “Hide updates.” After you hide them, run it again and verify that only the updates you want are still pending, because that’s what is going to get install as soon as you removed Metered connections.

wushowhide won’t scan for updates so you can hide them as long as WU Paused.
If you have WU “Paused”, the moment you “Resume updates” it will trigger a search for updates and an attempt to download/install. So you have to be careful how you balance the Metered connection and the use of wushowhide.  Be sure you have Metered connections ON before you do anything.

 

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Thanks PK. I think I’ve got all that.

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PKCano wrote:

When using it, click “Advanced” then uncheck “apply changes.” Then “Hide updates.”

What does this do? I confess that I’ve never gone through the “Advanced” step, but everything seems to work ok without it.

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I’ve looked at Susan’s advice on checking BitLocker status (off or on) prior to deciding whether to instal or hide KB 5012170.  I cannot find anything about BitLocker through start and search on my Lenovo S340 IdeaPad, running Win 10 Home 21H2.  My laptop is about 4 years old and I’ve tried various methods (eg from Susan’s Tasks for the Weekend from 09/2021) to find BitLocker on my laptop, but I cannot find it.  I’ve also tried other suggested methods from How to Geek (Control Panel>System and Security> (look for) BitLocker Drive Encryption) without success.

Is there something that I’m missing here? Appreciate help on this.

Apologies if this in the wrong forum.

GeoffB

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Try Settings, Update & Security, Device encryption:

How to Check if Device Encryption is Supported in Windows 10

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Thanks for the assistance  b & guest, I feel safer now!

Encryption not supported on my laptop.

regards

GeoffB

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Checking BitLocker Status (Command Line) works as well.
Start-> search box, type “cmd” Press Enter.
Find cmd icon that appears under programs,
Right-click it, Command Prompt, and select “Run as Administrator.”
In command prompt, type “manage-bde -status”(space between the e and last – ) Press Enter.
View the status of BitLocker on the drives in the computer.

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A few minutes ago I checked for updates and got

KB5016594 Cumulative Update Preview for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 11 for x64
KB5016691 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 for x64-based Systems

No hiccups.  Windows 11 Pro Version 21H2 (OS Build 22000.918)

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

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I’m a home user of Windows 10 Pro 21H2 x64. I have just installed the August 2022 CU, KB5016616, and my system is one of the unlucky ones that has lost all its audio.

I can’t quite understand SB’s instructions on what to do in conjunction with what is stated in the MS support article for KB5016616. Do I uninstall KB5016616 now? Or, do I wait for the KIR (Known Issue Rollback) to “kick in” somehow and, when it does, will that fix the problem?

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Try this:
+ Turn OFF “Fast Startup” Control Panel\Power Options\Choose what the power buttons do You may have to click on “Change settings that are currently unavailable” then uncheck “Fast Startup”
+ Restart (not Shutdown/Power button) the computer a couple of times. Wait a day and restart again (it may take a while to propagate to your computer).
+ If that doesn’t work, try uninstalling KB5016616.

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Thank you, but you have probably seen my addendum by now.

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False alarm, at least for the moment. I apologise.

I decided to follow SB’s advice and uninstall KB5016616, but still no sound. So I then decided to restore the system to the restore point just before installing KB5016616. But while I was waiting for the restore process to complete, my hand reached for the volume control knob for the speakers and I then discovered that I had previously muted the sound!!!

After un-muting the sound, and after the restore process had completed, the sound returned. Big relief! But now I still don’t know whether KB5016616 will cause a problem with the audio.

As I have set GPEDIT=2, I will wait for Windows Update to refresh its list of available updates (probably by tomorrow) and try installing KB5016616 again.

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Just to close the loop on this one, in case anyone is interested.

Yesterday, with GPEDIT=2 set, WU offered KB5016616 again as expected. So I installed it a second time and I am pleased to report that my system has no audio problems subsequently.

I find the psychology of what happened interesting and a little amusing. I originally installed KB5016616 knowing beforehand that audio problems might ensue. So, when I purposefully tested the audio after installation and heard no sound, I was all too quick to blame KB5016616 without considering other possibilities. It’s a funny old world!

BTW, when I do the monthly updates to my Windows 10 Pro system with GPEDIT=2, if there are updates in the WU queue that I wish to hide, I use wushowhide to hide them and then I am quite prepared to wait until WU catches up and refreshes its queue before clicking the Download button. I don’t use Matador’s method, WuMgr, or any other method in order to complete the task in a single session. As a home user, with a certain amount of time on my hands, I am happy to wait until the following day (usually) in order complete the task.

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On my computer the Control Panel>System and Security>BitLocker Drive Encryption page looks similar, but not identical, to the screen shot that Susan Bradley posted. Instead of displaying “C: Bitlocker off” my computer displays “Windows (C:) Bitlocker waiting for activation.” Is “waiting for activation” the same as “off”?

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280park wrote:

Instead of displaying “C: Bitlocker off” my computer displays “Windows (C:) Bitlocker waiting for activation.” Is “waiting for activation” the same as “off”?

No, it is not OFF.
The drive is encrypted waiting for you to activate the key.
If you turn Bitlocker OFF, it will decrypt the drive.

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There is no button to turn BitLocker off. Instead, there is a button to turn Bitlocker on. Attached is a screen shot of what I am seeing.

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280park – I have exactly the same situation as you on three new Dell desktop PCs, but PKCano’s and Alex5723’s replies (above and below) have me confused.

I would prefer Bitlocker to be OFF (not primed).  How do I do that without risking everything on those three PCs?

They are production units for my wife’s small business, and three staffers have been using them for two months, so I don’t want to risk a disaster and then spend the weekend trying to repair a mess.

Darn to Dell.  I had asked Dell to leave Bitlocker off.  Dell did a bunch of things that have been entirely NON-ergonomic.  And I paid big bucks for the three machines.

But need your and PKCano’s and Alex5723’s wisdom on this.  Thanks.

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Bitlocker is therefore off but in like partial setup mode … I’d do this:

1. Open the Start menu.
2. Type “Command Prompt“, right-click on it, and select “Run as administrator“.
3. After open CMD as admin, execute the below command. Replace “X” with the actual drive letter of the encrypted drive.
   manage-bde -off X:
4. When prompted, type the BitLocker password and press Enter.

It shouldn’t ask you for a password.

(if you got a email, sorry I hit send too fast)

Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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280park

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Susan – thanks.  But I don’t have the Bitlocker password.

Will this step have any effect on the machine?

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@glnz –

Here’s a direct quote from a couple of @WCHS ‘s posts about being in the same unwanted predicament. However, there WAS an option that showed up to turn off Bit Locker, so try following them and you might find paydirt:

From post 2473732:

…At Manage BitLocker (Control Panel | BitLocker Drive Encryption), when I saw “OS (C:) BitLocker waiting for activation”, I had two choices: 1) Go to Settings|Update & Security|Drive Encryption and turn off the activation process by clicking on a box that said “Turn off”; or 2) continue with the activation process by clicking on the link to “Turn on Bitlocker” in the Manage BitLocker window. I took the first choice, which did two things: 1a) it stopped the activation process by decrypting the drive (no recovery key was necessary because the key was saved “in the clear”) and 1b) it set BitLocker to off. (I didn’t make a screenshot of the decrypting screen, but there was a line that filled up from left to right, showing the progress of the decryption).

And from post 2473556:

…I managed to get the screen to say that BitLocker was OFF with no yellow triangle by going to Settings|Update & Security|Drive Encryption and clicking on the box said ‘Turn OFF‘ Then, a screen came up (I think it was the ‘Manage BitLocker’ screen) that said ‘Decryption in progress’ and there was a line that began filling up left to right. After about 45 minutes, the screen changed to say that decryption had completed, that ‘BitLocker is OFF‘ and there was no yellow triangle anymore…

I hope these help!

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280park

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If you’ve read these quotes, you’ve probably noticed a typo I made. It should be Settings|Update & Security|Device Encryption and not Drive Encryption.

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It shouldn’t ask for a password in this state.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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280park

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Re: Turning BitLocker Off –
Further to my post #2473783 above: I found a “Turn Off” box at Settings>Update & Security>Device encryption. My computer is an HP ProBook 450 G6 with Windows 10 Pro version 21H2. I DO NOT have a Microsoft account or a BitLocker key or password.

Questions:
1. Is it safe to hit the “Turn Off” button to turn off BitLocker?
2. Once BitLocker is turned off will KB 5012170 install without any issues?

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280park wrote:

There is no button to turn BitLocker off

It means BitLocker is off.
After setting BitLocker ON you will see an OFF switch.

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Further information on BitLocker in Microsoft Forum, starting with Sumit post on Page 6:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/cumulative-updates-for-windows-10-and-windows-11/775ec6f4-4286-43fa-a88d-6b41d80f4699

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That’s just a copy of the known issue for KB5012170 which was posted here 11 days ago:

https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/its-time-for-those-august-updates-to-be-deferred/#post-2471483

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Hey! Love the forum and patch list. I did not know where to post this question but this seems like the best place I could find. Sorry in advance if it is not. I was wondering if there is a tool to browse through all the patch lists for an specific KB to see if and when it became safe to install. Or in general to browse throughout the patchlist withouts having to open each edition. Thanks!

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Try the search box – I use it for this purpose.

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What operating system are you on?  With Windows 10, the core cumulative update patches I will ultimately urge you to install by the following month.  It’s these wackadoodle oddball ones that I tend to say don’t install and keep it at avoid.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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Weird. I installed KB5016616 on my Windows 10 Pro computer several days ago. Sound was not affected (sigh of relief). A few minutes ago, I tried to view a video and had no sound! I had sound earlier today (that’s why I said “weird”).

I uninstalled KB5016616, rebooted and sound is back. Why this KB did not adversely affect sound until all of a sudden today is a mystery to me.

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My guess is that it’s using the enhanced sound features.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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I decided to take Susan’s advice and hide KB5012170 on my Win10 home system. I downloaded both wushowhide and Windows Update MiniTool. Both showed KB5012170. I used wushowhide (first time user) to hide KB5012170 and it is no longer showing in both tools. However, KB5012170 continues to show in Windows Update as “Pending Download”. I rebooted and the KB is still there. When I click on “Download”, will it or will it not get installed? Am I missing something on how this works?

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https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/2000023-resetting-the-software-distribution-folder/  Follow that to reset the software distribution folder

Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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See #2473581 above for instructions.

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Thank you PKCano for your response.

Yes, I have Win10 pro Group Policy set to “2”, so are you are saying to follow the procedure you outlined? However, my Windows Update window does not show a “resume” button (step 2) but shows a “Download” button instead. Should I disconnect from the internet and then click “Download” instead or should I use the procedure Susan outlined?

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OK, if you have “2” set, AND you have hidden the updates with wushowhide AND verified in wushowhide that the only pending updates are the ones you want – start here:

PKCano wrote:

+ Go back to WU – all the updates will still be there, even the ones you hid. Now, you have to clear the WU queue b/c what you see in the queue is what will be downloaded.
+ To clear the queue, Pause updates, wait a minute, Resume updates. This will cause WU to search for updates, but this time the list will be minus the ones you hid. The updates will download and install – wait for the Restart.

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Hi again,

I tried your suggestion and it worked. That was easy.

Thank-you

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FYI, KB5012170 was shown as hidden before proceeding with your suggestion. After running the updates and confirming KB5012170 was not installed, KB5012170 has disappeared from the wuhideshow hidden list. It also does not show in the Windows Update MiniTool.

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Susan Bradley wrote:

My guess is that it’s using the enhanced sound features.

Ummm…don’t think so. I have NO enhancement tab. I can never, in recent years, get nVidia audio to work on any of my computers so I just use the builltin Realtek audio. it has no enhancement tab. I don’t really mind as I keep audio turned way down on my Logitech speakers and only use audio if I want to watch a video which I don’t often do. Or sometimes I insert a music CD but since no devices do justice these days for Bass sound I have mostly stopped listening to music.

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The Surfing Pensioner wrote:

Silly question time: I want to use wushowide to hide KB5012170 on my W10 Home laptop (I have discovered the TPM is “Ready” but I can find no password, nor any way to turn it off). My Windows Update is currently paused. Am I right in thinking I download wushowide, switch to a metered connection (download updates over a metered connection is NOT enabled), run Windows Update, then run wushowide following the instructions in Susan’s videoclip, hide KB5012170, then Pause Updates once again, remove the metered connection and re-run Windows Update. Or have I missed anything? Many thanks for all your help.

Not in my experience. I’ve done exactly what you did/want to do, KB5012170 was downloaded and installed anyway.

It seems the safe way is to ensure BitLocker is OFF, not just paused, on your machine’s drive(s). If Bitlocker is not in use, the update cannot screw it up.

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The Windows 10 patch notes include “Known issues: Some USB printers are impacted by the update, you may need to get a new printer driver.”

It’s not clear to me what patch has this issue. Please clarify.

Also, the note:

install Note (A) – known issues include: Audio issues: After installing this update, some Windows devices might have issues with audio not working. Some affected Windows devices might have no audio, but other affected Windows devices might only have issues on certain ports, certain audio devices or only within certain applications. Most affected audio devices drivers have the “audio enhancements” setting disabled before installing this update or the sound device driver has issues with the “audio enhancements” feature.

PLEASE let comments wrap somehow. As it is, the PDF is so wide the entire text is not displayed (at least when the file is opened in Edge or Acrobat Reader DC).

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MHCLV941 wrote:

Also, the note:

install Note (A) – known issues include: Audio issues: After installing this update, some Windows devices might have issues with audio not working. Some affected Windows devices might have no audio, but other affected Windows devices might only have issues on certain ports, certain audio devices or only within certain applications. Most affected audio devices drivers have the “audio enhancements” setting disabled before installing this update or the sound device driver has issues with the “audio enhancements” feature.

Install Note (A) refers to the two updates which have “See install note (A) below” in the SPECIAL NOTES column.

 

MHCLV941 wrote:

PLEASE let comments wrap somehow. As it is, the PDF is so wide the entire text is not displayed (at least when the file is opened in Edge or Acrobat Reader DC).

The PDF displays the entire text in Edge for me. You need to either zoom out or scroll right.

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b wrote:

MHCLV941 wrote:

Also, the note:

install Note (A) – known issues include: Audio issues: After installing this update, some Windows devices might have issues with audio not working. Some affected Windows devices might have no audio, but other affected Windows devices might only have issues on certain ports, certain audio devices or only within certain applications. Most affected audio devices drivers have the “audio enhancements” setting disabled before installing this update or the sound device driver has issues with the “audio enhancements” feature.

Install Note (A) refers to the two updates which have “See install note (A) below” in the SPECIAL NOTES column.

 

MHCLV941 wrote:

PLEASE let comments wrap somehow. As it is, the PDF is so wide the entire text is not displayed (at least when the file is opened in Edge or Acrobat Reader DC).

The PDF displays the entire text in Edge for me. You need to either zoom out or scroll right.

1. The first lines of my post:

The Windows 10 patch notes include “Known issues: Some USB printers are impacted by the update, you may need to get a new printer driver.”

It’s not clear to me what patch has this issue. Please clarify.

2. I DID scroll but the “Install Note A” is truncated on the left in the PDF. The last few letters are “certain audio de”, which is only about half the entire note. One must select all on the line and then copy and paste into something else to see the full text.

The text is truncated in the HTML version as well, but far less of it shows in this version and it’s not possible to see the entire text.

Yes, the Excel version does show the entire text, but that line is awkwardly long. No reason that line could have been wrapped to show the entire note in ALL versions of the Patch List.

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After BitLocker is turned off is it safe to install KB5012170?

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I haven’t had any issues so far on about 50 machines. Did have one that lost functionality on his bluetooth headphones but I think it was from a Dell audio update and not Windows. Was a weird fix to get it working but all good now.

Never Say Never

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cyberSAR wrote:

I haven’t had any issues so far on about 50 machines.

Did you install KB5012170 on those 50 machines?

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Yep. None reporting issues at this time and I didn’t note any issues after installation.

Never Say Never

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I installed KB5012170 on Win10 and Win11 systems that WERE NOT Bitlocker encrypted, and I had no problems either.
But I did NOT install KB5012170 on any of my Win8.1 machines.

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cyberSAR and PKCano – Thanks for the information about your experience installing KB5012170. My inclination is to install KB5012170 instead of deferring it using wushohide (with which I have no experience) AFTER I turn off BitLocker (hopefully) using the command line tools (manage-bde -off) in Knowledge Base 6000012 posted by Susan Bradley on September 5th. I will probably wait until Saturday because the air conditioning is not working and I don’t want to fry my computer.

My computer:
HP ProBook 450 G
250 GB SSD
Windows 10 Pro version 21H2
I don’t have a Microsoft account and I don’t have a BitLocker password or key.

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That waiting for activation would bother me! I’d get rid of that before doing those updates for SURE!!!! Get it looking like this

BTW If you need some A/C tips hit me up in DM. Over 45-yrs as licensed HVAC tech/contractor

 

Never Say Never

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cyberSAR – The image of BitLocker’s status that you posted indicating that BitLocker is off is exactly what I hope to get when I run the command line manage-bde -off.

Thanks for the post. And thanks for the offer of some air conditioner tips!! Unfortunately, I will have to wait until the building manager fixes it or the weather cools down a bit on Saturday.

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For what it’s worth, here is my experience with the August updates:

Before this recent discussion of encryption and BitLocker I didn’t know anything about either one or that BitLocker was on my computer. Below are the screen shots of the status of device encryption and BitLocker on my computer both before and after I ran the instruction manage-bde -off c: at a command prompt. It seemed a little odd to me that the process of decrypting took almost no time at all because I had read that it takes hours. Perhaps that is because BitLocker was “waiting for activation” before I ran the command line instruction noted above.

My computer subsequently updated automatically after the last day of a previously established pause period was reached. KB5012170 and KB5016616 both installed easily and up to now there have been no problems.

Thanks to everyone for this informative discussion.

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