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      • #2379915
        Peter Deegan
        AskWoody Plus

        ISSUE 18.28 • 2021-07-26 MICROSOFT 365 By Peter Deegan Which Microsoft 365 Business plan is best and cheapest for you? Yes, I said business plans. But
        [See the full post at: Microsoft 365 plans revealed!]

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      • #2379945
        woody
        Manager

        An outstanding issue!

        And it’s great to see Peter in these parts…

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        • #2379948
          PKCano
          Manager

          It’s great to see YOU in these parts, as well!

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        • #2379978
          Peter Deegan
          AskWoody Plus

          Thanks Woody, means a lot coming from you.

          Peter Deegan

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      • #2379961
        glnz
        AskWoody Plus

         

        Peter Deegan – great article, and thanks.

        Question – we have Office 365 Home ( @ $99 /year), which can be installed on five different PCs, and each will provide Word, Excel and Outlook and get some separate storage on both OneDrive and Outlook.com, yes?  (Do I have that right?)  We haven’t rolled it out yet, but we intend to use it for my wife’s very small company.  When we upgrade the PCs in her small office, we’ll install it for her and her one or two employees, and each person will have his or her own account on OneDrive with lots of document storage, yes?.   Sound right so far?

        So how can we use the info in your article to make this small setup better, but at MINIMAL cost.  What would the lowest rung of the stuff in your article do for us that we don’t already have in Office 365 Home?

        By the way, my wife has her own domain name and an email hosting package on Network Solutions, so we already have emails for [names]@[wife’s business name].com.  Also curious how the subject of your article would enhance that, if at all.  We’re not crazy about Network Solutions, so would one of your lowest cost plans let us move the domain name and/or email hosting into MS at lower cost than what we’re paying Network Solutions?

        Thanks.

         

        • #2379966
          Susan Bradley
          Manager

          Do you mean Microsoft 365 family? Compare All Microsoft 365 Plans (Formerly Office 365) – Microsoft Store  Keep in mind that any of the family versions of 365 typically have buried in the eula that you can’t use it for commercial use.

          Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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        • #2379992
          Peter Deegan
          AskWoody Plus

          By stretching the definition of ‘Family’ you could install Microsoft Office 365 for your wifes staff on her office computers.  It’s not entirely proper according to the Microsoft 365 Personal/Family licence agreement but it’s commonly done especially by small and starting operations.
          Each would have 1TB of OneDrive storage, if needed.  More likely, they’d share some folders from a OneDrive account.

          However Office/Microsoft 365 licences do NOT include mailbox, contacts or calendar.  For that you need something extra like Microsoft 365 Basic which has mailbox or a linked Outlook.com account using the same Microsoft account.

          It depends on what the staffers are doing. Do they need a mailbox each or perhaps access to a single mailbox?

          The domain name can be hosted anywhere and doesn’t have to be transferred to Microsoft. It can be handy to have the domain management within your Microsoft 365 Business account. Others prefer to keep it separate or, at least, keep with the ‘devil they know’.
          Your wife could choose to get a Microsoft 365 mailbox via a Microsoft 365 Business Basic or Standard plan … then transfer mail settings to Microsoft 365.  In other words her existing business email address moves to a Microsoft 365 mailbox. Whether you choose to move the domain to Microsoft or keep it with your current domain registrar is up to you … Microsoft’s instructions will guide you either way.

          Clarification:
          Office 365 Home is now called Microsoft 365 Family.
          It now includes SIX separate users, up from five a few years ago.

           

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          • #2380005
            glnz
            AskWoody Plus

            Thank you both.  I need to do a bit of research to see how these two things mesh.

            EDIT – If we keep Microsoft 365 Family, do any of these LESS expensive Business plans add a LOT more document and email storage and sharing, maybe to our Family OneDrive and separate Outlook.com accounts?

            • #2380016
              Peter Deegan
              AskWoody Plus

              Almost all the Business plans include 1TB of OneDrive storage for each user, check out the table in the article.
              If you’re using Microsoft 365 Family for the desktop software access, you’ll have 1TB of quota for each of those users too.
              For example, one of my clients has 2TB of OneDrive via his two licences with Microsoft – each under a different Microsoft account.

              1. The Microsoft 365 Basic account with 1TB of OneDrive in addition to mailbox etc.
              2. Microsoft 365 Family account also has a 1TB OneDrive quota.

              These show up as two separate 1TB’s (they can’t be merged into a single 2TB block).  OneDrive for Windows/Mac can be setup multiple times for separate logins.
              In the example, the client uses a OneDrive account for document, image storage etc. The other gets backups and other long-term/secondary storage.

              Peter Deegan

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          • #2380012
            b
            AskWoody MVP

            However Office/Microsoft 365 licences do NOT include mailbox, contacts or calendar.  For that you need something extra like Microsoft 365 Basic which has mailbox.

            Microsoft/Office 365 does include ad-free Outlook.com though, for mailbox, contacts and calendar:

            Enjoy a 50GB, ad-free inbox and get advanced features in Outlook. Protect your emails with message encryption and removal of dangerous attachments.
            Outlook.com premium features

            Windows 10 Pro version 21H2 build 19044.1237 + Microsoft 365 (group ASAP)

            • #2380017
              Peter Deegan
              AskWoody Plus

              Quite right — now corrected.

              Outlook.com with Microsoft 365 Personal/Consumer is ad-free with much larger storage.  Alas, no custom domain name though.

              Thanks,

              Peter Deegan

              • #2380028
                glnz
                AskWoody Plus

                Peter – apologies for being micro, but … does Outlook.com with MS 365 Family also provide much larger storage?

              • #2380031
                Peter Deegan
                AskWoody Plus

                No apology needed — a lot of this is about the details.

                Outlook.com extra storage etc applies to all users on Microsoft 365 consumer plans – Personal or any of the six users linked to a Family plan.

                As long as the Microsoft account linked to a Personal/Family plan has a Outlook.com address.

                Peter Deegan

      • #2380115
        MHCLV941
        AskWoody Plus

        One caution on personal domain names:   Think carefully about the TOP LEVEL domain you select.   There are over 1500 top-level domains that vary in length from 2 characters to over 200 and one of the non-familiar ones might appeal to you.

        However, I have found that many commercial websites still have edits that refuse to accept an email address with a top-level domain with 5 or more characters.  These have included a major insurance company, credit unions and banks, major retailers, among others.   In some cases, the company will enter your shiny new email address for you offline; other times, you’re just one more trouble ticket in the forget it basket.

        PS: Surprisingly, at least to me, the majority of top-level domains are 5 characters or longer.

        • #2380146
          bbearren
          AskWoody MVP

          One caution on personal domain names:

          I’m fairly certain that most will want to use .COM as their top-level domain name.  as in “askwoody.com”.  .ORG is also somewhat common, particularly for charitable domains and the like.

          Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
          "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
          "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

          • #2380151
            Peter Deegan
            AskWoody Plus

            Many people assume a domain name is “.com” almost automatically when they hear it or sometimes see and type it.

            Slowly, folks are getting used to the concept of a broader range of  Top Level Domains but it’s slow going.

            The reason some sites can’t cope with newer domains is that the email / domain checking code is inherited from years past when there was a narrower range of domains available.  The subroutines haven’t been updated for many moon, probably long before the current site managers joined the organization.

            It usually takes some customer complaints to make the site managers aware of the problem.  Then they have to dig into ancient code to fix it.

            Peter Deegan

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        • #2380150
          Peter Deegan
          AskWoody Plus

          Good point … there’s no problem with the older established domains but many sites haven’t adapted their code to cope with the newer, longer domain names like, er, .name  .store or .online

          There can also be problems with very short domain names with two letters like .co or .me those most sites are OK these days.

          If you do strike a problem with a site and they aren’t responsive to change there is a workaround for Microsoft 365.

          All Microsoft 365 Business (and Enterprise) have a default domain in the form <organization>.onmicrosoft.com  .  Use that to make an alias email for example f@foobar.name could have an alias f@foorbarname.onmicrosoft.com .  In M365 Admin go to Users, choose a user then ‘Manage username and email’ to add an alias.  The ‘onmicrosoft.com’ domain will be available from the pull-down list.

          Peter Deegan

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          • #2380166
            MHCLV941
            AskWoody Plus

            All Microsoft 365 Business (and Enterprise) have a default domain in the form .onmicrosoft.com  .  Use that to make an alias email for example f@foobar.name could have an alias f@foorbarname.onmicrosoft.com .  In M365 Admin go to Users, choose a user then ‘Manage username and email’ to add an alias.  The ‘onmicrosoft.com’ domain will be available from the pull-down list.

            The default domain, and the ease with which one can add additional domains, is one of the things that differ from 365 Family.  In Family, even if you have your own domain, it’s very much against your using it.  It also is very limited in allowing one to set up aliases.   That’s why I have an unused 365 Family license sitting on a shelf.

        • #2380489
          wavy
          AskWoody Plus

          There are over 1500 top-level domains that vary in length from 2 characters to over 200 and one of the non-familiar ones might appeal to you.

          I did not see any long tld names in that list. 200 long ??

          🍻

          Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
      • #2380149
        MHCLV941
        AskWoody Plus

        I’m fairly certain that most will want to use .COM as their top-level domain name.  as in “askwoody.com”.  .ORG is also somewhat common, particularly for charitable domains and the like.

        Really?  Based on what evidence?  Your arrogance is the same reason these invalid limitations exist in poorly written websites in the first place.

        You also missed the point of the original article, that business 365 accounts allow for PERSONAL domain names.

        Re-read the post.   ALL of the post.  If you have a pertinent comment, feel free to make it.

        • #2380167
          bbearren
          AskWoody MVP

          Really? Based on what evidence?

          How about Verisign?

          Top-Level-Domains

          You also missed the point of the original article, that business 365 accounts allow for PERSONAL domain names.

          A PERSONAL domain name still needs a TLD.  Mine is bbearren.com.

          Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
          "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
          "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

        • #2380178
          PaulK
          AskWoody Lounger

          Domain name registration, personal or otherwise, is within easy financial reach.
          A TLD starts at $185,000, and requires complex application specifications.

      • #2380158
        MHCLV941
        AskWoody Plus

        Many people assume a domain name is “.com” almost automatically when they hear it or sometimes see and type it.

        Indeed!!!!  Back in the day, the best example of this was whitehouse.com.  Once upon a time, it was a sex site through today it’s also apparently been compromised as well as still being a sex site.

        The majority of companies with whom I’ve encountered the problem have been quite willing to manually update my email address somehow or other.  I’ve only come across a couple that were completely unhelpful, both of which were related to DoD.

      • #2380160
        bbearren
        AskWoody MVP

        Microsoft-365

        This began a few years ago as Office 2016, then upgraded to Office 365 (Home & Office ? — I can’t remember) at $99/year, now renamed to Microsoft 365.  Viewing my subscription online, I see

        Microsoft-365-Family

        I have three installations, and three available, each with 1TB OneDrive.  As you can see I have Outlook Mail & Calendar, with all the bells and whistles.  In addition I already have my own domain, bbearren.com.

        The only thing I’m missing is Teams, and I don’t have a use for Teams.  It appears that sticking with what I already have will be good enough.

        Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
        "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
        "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

      • #2380185
        MHCLV941
        AskWoody Plus

        Really? Based on what evidence?

        How about Verisign?

        Top-Level-Domains

        You also missed the point of the original article, that business 365 accounts allow for PERSONAL domain names.

        A PERSONAL domain name still needs a TLD.  Mine is bbearren.com.

        I have no doubt the Verisign numbers are accurate, but your use of them is not.  The topic at hand is PERSONAL domains, which make up a tiny fraction of the total number of domains.  Come back when you have that parsed out.

        At least you are beginning to catch on.  Yes, a top-level domain IS necessary.  As the IANA link I posted earlier shows, there are over 1500 top-level domains, the majority of which are FIVE characters or longer.  My entire point, which you don’t yet seem to grasp, is that picking a TOP-LEVEL domain that is FIVE characters or more long could give one problems when used for a personal domain because of antiquated edits on websites that refuse to accept TOP-LEVEL domains with more than FOUR characters.

        As for your own domain, good for you.  So what?

         

        • #2380247
          bbearren
          AskWoody MVP

          I have no doubt the Verisign numbers are accurate, but your use of them is not.

          I’m fairly certain that most will want to use .COM as their top-level domain name. as in “askwoody.com”.

          Your own words are conflicting.

          Peter Deegan wrote: Many people assume a domain name is “.com” almost automatically when they hear it or sometimes see and type it.

          Indeed!!!! Back in the day, the best example of this was whitehouse.com.

          As for your own domain, good for you. So what?

          What I did in choosing a TLD is, I’m fairly certain, what most will want to use, .COM as their top-level domain name. as in “askwoody.com”  It is by far the most popular TLD.  My personal domain has an annual registration fee of $15.99.

          .COM TLD registrations, according to Verisign, outnumber the second-place TLD ten to one, which makes it, without question, the most popular TLD, and indicates that most will want to use .COM as their top-level domain name.  The odds are 10 to 1.

          Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
          "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
          "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

        • #2380339
          Susan Bradley
          Manager

          As an aside, every personal domain I own is a .com.   And trust me as a geek I own a LOT of personal domains. I only have one non .com domain and that is for business and is a .cpa and hardly ever gets used.

          Folks, I graciously ask that you remember the mantra that Woody’s son reads these forums and act accordingly.

          Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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          • #2380446
            doriel
            AskWoody Lounger

            I really like those unusal domains
            Such as .art .online .space .tech and my favorite .biz

            Usally cites does have those (such as .berlin)
            there are hundreds.. thousands. It can be seen on every webhosting while creating new domain.

            🙂 not so useful post, but I wanted to share. Sometimes problem comes, when entering such email – as mentioned HERE. The workaround with onmicrosoft.com works, we use that with CISCO WEBEX.

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      • #2380187
        MHCLV941
        AskWoody Plus

        Domain name registration, personal or otherwise, is within easy financial reach.
        A TLD starts at $185,000, and requires complex application specifications.

        I figured it was complicated but didn’t know the cost.   The .Vegas top-level domain took years (2007 to 2014, according to Wikipedia) to get approved.

        I was tempted to register a personal domain using the .Vegas top-level domain but the annual registration fee ($69.99 a year) was more than it was worth to me.

      • #2380253
        MHCLV941
        AskWoody Plus

        what most will want to use

        Arrogance in action once again.  People are free to do whatever they choose; they are under no obligation to conform to your assumptions.

        Aside from that, simply because .com is the most common top-level domain, finding one that suits one’s fancy is all that much harder.

        • #2380300
          bbearren
          AskWoody MVP

          what most will want to use

          Arrogance in action once again. People are free to do whatever they choose; they are under no obligation to conform to your assumptions.

          Of course people are free to do whatever they choose.  Nothing I have posted suggests anything to the contrary; “what most will want to use” can in no way be construed into “Everyone must choose .COM!”  It’s a simple assessment based on the 10 to 1 ratio of .COM registrations.

          Aside from that, simply because .com is the most common top-level domain, finding one that suits one’s fancy is all that much harder.

          This is why domain registrars exist, so that no two domains can have exactly the same name.  One’s choice of domain name (regardless of the TLD) must be unique.

          Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
          "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
          "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

          • #2380301
            b
            AskWoody MVP

            One’s choice of domain name (regardless of the TDL) must be unique.

            Regardless of the TLD?

            So whitehouse.com is not permitted?

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            • #2380312
              bbearren
              AskWoody MVP

              One’s choice of domain name (regardless of the TLD) must be unique.

              Regardless of the TLD?

              The TLD is part of the domain name.  Is AskWoody.com the same as this?

              AskWoody

              Or do you suppose that those are two different domains?  That is to say, regardless of the TLD one chooses to use, the domain name must be unique, and the TLD is part of the domain name.

              As for whitehouse.com,

              GoDaddy-Domain-Search

              Google-Domain-Search

              Domain-Domain-Search

              NameCheap-Domain-Search

              It appears that whitehouse.com is taken.

              Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
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              "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

              • #2380319
                MHCLV941
                AskWoody Plus

                Edited by the moderator.

                Folks, remember the mantra “Woody’s son reads these forums”.

                This is now moved to the personal attacks level and will not be tolerated.

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              • #2380333
                bbearren
                AskWoody MVP

                Edited by the moderator as not being appropriate for this venue

                Just old and experienced.

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              • #2380388
                MHCLV941
                AskWoody Plus

                My apologies.

                 

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      • #2380302
        MHCLV941
        AskWoody Plus

        This is why domain registrars exist, so that no two domains can have exactly the same name.  One’s choice of domain name (regardless of the TDL) must be unique.

        Really????  I had NO idea!!!

        Now, go back and re-read my original post.  It was nothing more than a head-up about a potential problem should one pick a top-level domain that is 5 characters long or longer.  Why this caused you such pain is a mystery to me.

        Edited by the moderator.

      • #2380306
        MHCLV941
        AskWoody Plus

        bbearren wrote: One’s choice of domain name (regardless of the TDL) must be unique. Regardless of the TLD? So whitehouse.com is not permitted?

        That is fully incorrect.  The domain name that comes before the top-level domain, e.g., dumbbutt in dumbbutt.com, needs to be unique only within .com.  (Bad example, dumbbutt.com is already registered!)

        dumbbutt.net,  dumbbutt.info, dumbbutt.us, dumbbutt.online, dumbbutt.club, dumbbutt.biz and many more are all perfectly legal names and, assuming no one else has already registered one or more of them,  anyone can register any or all of them by paying the required fees and costs.

        BTW: whitehouse.com is a live website but according to Forcepoint:

        so I recommend you don’t go look at it.   If you want to check up on POTUS, it’s whitehouse.gov.

      • #2380330
        bbearren
        AskWoody MVP

        A domain name includes the TLD, Top Level Domain.

        Odds are 10 to 1 that most folks will choose .COM for their TLD based on the history of TLD’s used.  From the article:

        “The big advantage of a Microsoft 365 Business plan is having a mailbox with your own personal domain name. Instead of an @outlook.com, @gmail.com, or ISP-based email (e.g., verizon.net, comcast.net), you can use a truly personal email address (for example, me@peterdeegan.com) or one for the family (Peter@DeeganFam.com). But you will need to acquire the domain name.

        A personal domain name costs less than $20 a year in most cases. It’s well worth it for the permanent email address that you keep regardless of which mail host you choose.”

        Many people assume a domain name is “.com” almost automatically when they hear it or sometimes see and type it. Slowly, folks are getting used to the concept of a broader range of Top Level Domains but it’s slow going. The reason some sites can’t cope with newer domains is that the email / domain checking code is inherited from years past when there was a narrower range of domains available. The subroutines haven’t been updated for many moon, probably long before the current site managers joined the organization. It usually takes some customer complaints to make the site managers aware of the problem. Then they have to dig into ancient code to fix it. Peter Deegan

        Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
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      • #2380387
        MHCLV941
        AskWoody Plus

        Edited by the moderator as not being appropriate for this venue

        Just old and experienced.

        You are not the only one but you should remember that you were not always either.  The person who questioned whether whitehouse.com is legitimate since there is a whitehouse.gov is also one or both.

        • #2380399
          bbearren
          AskWoody MVP

          You are not the only one but you should remember that you were not always either. The person who questioned whether whitehouse.com is legitimate since there is a whitehouse.gov is also one or both.

          I’ve been working on both (getting old and more experienced) all my life, no big surprise there.  In the early dotcom days there were a few who got in on the ground floor of registering domain names before many big companies realized that the internet was a thing, and then sold those domain names for a tidy profit.

          There were also companies that registered all the domain names within whistling distance of their company’s business.  And there were points in between.  But .GOV was one of the first six TLD’s, and only government agencies (federal and state) are able to register .GOV TLD’s.

          Whitehouse.com is a joke about as old as the internet.

          Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
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          "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

      • #2380398
        Will Fastie
        Manager

        Domain names consist of one or more “components” (also called “labels”) and one top-level domain (TLD). Domain names are written right to left, unusual for most hierarchical systems. The domain name

        atc.fastie.com

        “starts” with the TLD com and has two components, fastie and atc. The first component combined with the TLD is typically called “the domain” (or the “second level domain”). Components to the left of the domain identify “sub-domains” (and can be used for other purposes). To the best of my knowledge, there is no specified limit on the number of components, although practical considerations may constrain the number and size.

        The maximum length of a TLD is defined by specification to be 63 characters. The longest one I know is 24 characters (XN–VERMGENSBERATUNG-PWB). No idea what that is. MICROSOFT is a TLD (exciting trivia fact).

        The maximum length of any component is also 63 characters.

        There is no such thing as a “personal” domain name. What Peter means by that is a domain name that is leased by an individual instead of a business or that is intended for personal rather than commercial reasons. Naturally, this gets twisted. Fastie.com is my personal site and webdesignbuild.biz is my business site, but I lease both personally.

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      • #2380401
        MHCLV941
        AskWoody Plus

        Whitehouse.com is a joke about as old as the internet.

        A real website that suckers people who think everything is “.com” and is compromised to boot is not a joke.

      • #2380402
        MHCLV941
        AskWoody Plus

        There is no such thing as a “personal” domain name. What Peter means by that is a domain name that is leased by an individual instead of a business or that is intended for personal rather than commercial reasons.

        With all due respect, you first say something does not exist, a personal domain name, and then you define it exactly.

        Agree that there is no technical difference between a domain name used by a business for the business’s purposes and one used by a person for the person’s purposes.  However, for purposes of discussion, it is useful to make the point that there is no reason whatsoever why an otherwise unremarkable, air-breathing human being cannot register a domain name (or more for that matter) with no intention of ever using it for any commercial purpose.   Just as many people still think there is only .com and perhaps three or four others,  there are also people who don’t know this.

        For the morbidly curious, the complete list of TLDs is at https://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt and, as of today, there are 1498 items in the list.

        A lot of them are, well, obscure, like XN–VERMGENSBERATUNG-PWB*, but there are a lot of recognizable company names in there as well.
        * Deutsche Vermögensberatung Aktiengesellschaft DVAG, which is apparently a financial services company in Frankfurt, Germany

        For example:

        AFAMILYCOMPANY
        AMERICANEXPRESS
        AMERICANFAMILY
        BANANAREPUBLIC
        BARCLAYCARD
        BLOCKBUSTER
        BRIDGESTONE
        CALVINKLEIN
        COOKINGCHANNEL
        FOODNETWORK
        KERRYHOTELS
        KERRYLOGISTICS
        KERRYPROPERTIES
        LAMBORGHINI
        LPLFINANCIAL
        NORTHWESTERNMUTUAL
        SANDVIKCOROMANT
        TRAVELCHANNEL
        TRAVELERSINSURANCE
        WEATHERCHANNEL

        There are also lots of other names, like cities, sports, ethnic designations, foods,  etc.)   It’s kind of amazing how many disparate entities ponied up the $185K (according to another post in this thread) to have these created.

         

        • #2380580
          doriel
          AskWoody Lounger

          XN–VERMGENSBERATUNG-PWB

          Thank you for the longest one, I was thinking about it too – which is the longest. But I would rather have another TLD. For example the one, that I can remember 🙂 or read.

          I will put a Wikipedia link here for readers, that are interested in how many TLDs really exist.

          Those are the some interesting I could find 🙂

          .vodka (vodka-related businesses and interest)
          .rip (Loved ones seeking to memorialize the deceased, funeral homes and cemeteries, businesses that support the funeral industry, obituary websites)
          .men (how manly is that? 🙂 )

          There are lot more, this is jut tip of the iceberg.
          If you pay you could register websites such as letsget.rich or gimme.beer

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      • #2380404
        Will Fastie
        Manager

        With all due respect, you first say something does not exist, a personal domain name, and then you define it exactly.

        By which I mean there is nothing in the Internet specifications, the IANA rules, or the ICANN oversight that mentions such a thing as a “personal” domain name. The only restrictions are for TLDs such as edu or gov which must be used only by such entities.

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      • #2380521
        MHCLV941
        AskWoody Plus

        There are over 1500 top-level domains that vary in length from 2 characters to over 200 and one of the non-familiar ones might appeal to you.

        I did not see any long tld names in that list. 200 long ??

        I would have bet two Happy Meals that the first time I looked at that list, there were a couple of really long ones, but looking at my notes from last October when I changed to a .email domain and started having problems with antiquated website email edits, the longest was 24 characters, same as now.

        A very interesting tidbit: last October, there were 1508 TLDs; now the IANA list has only 1498.  I was under the impression that TLDs were forever, but they are actually not.  Either IANA or the registry operator that “owns?” it can terminate it.

      • #2380522
        MHCLV941
        AskWoody Plus

        As an aside, every personal domain I own is a .com.   And trust me as a geek I own a LOT of personal domains. I only have one non .com domain and that is for business and is a .cpa and hardly ever gets used.

        Folks, I graciously ask that you remember the mantra that Woody’s son reads these forums and act accordingly.

        My apologies.

        If you’ve managed to find lots of names you wanted to use in .com, you’re luckier than I and some others I know have been.

        Again, back to my original point, which was simply a heads-up that using a 5 character (or longer) top-level domain can give you grief because there are a surprising number of websites that won’t accept an email address with a more-than–4 TLD.

      • #2380598
        Will Fastie
        Manager

        I will put a Wikipedia link here for readers, that are interested in how many TLDs really exist.

        See the official list, maintained by IANA, here: https://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt.

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