Microsoft agrees to clean up a small Win7 mess

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PATCH WATCH By Susan Bradley The NSA might have rained on Windows 10’s patching parade in January, but most of the attention was focused on the demise
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Is there any way to tell whether given Windows 10 patch is a preview patch, other than it is not released on the second Tuesday of the month?   My concern is how I can tell preview patches from “real” out-0f-cycle updates?

Related: if/when there is a “real” out-0f-cycle update, how can I install it without also installing any outstanding preview releases?

Thanks!

Mike Hansen

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MHCLV941 wrote:

Is there any way to tell whether given Windows 10 patch is a preview patch, other than it is not released on the second Tuesday of the month?   My concern is how I can tell preview patches from “real” out-0f-cycle updates?

Related: if/when there is a “real” out-0f-cycle update, how can I install it without also installing any outstanding preview releases?

Thanks!

Mike Hansen

You can download and install directly from Microsoft’s catalog.
Patched not dated Patch Tuesday are previews.

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Real out of cycle updates will push out.  We’ll post about them too.  Preview updates won’t push out and will be “offered up”

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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If you’re running the latest versions of win10, version 1903 and 1909, Microsoft has reliably thrown out its old patching nonsense, and made it impossible to get an optional, non-security patch unless you specifically click on “Optional updates available,” “Download and install now.”

This is from Susan’s machine:

At least so far, Real Out of Cycle Updates (TM) install just like any other mainstream Cumulative Update – they obey the Pause Updates setting, but will install automatically if no block is in place.

Believe me, that’s a HUGE improvement over the way things used to be. Only took MS five years to figure it out.

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“Really, Microsoft? Sure, it’s a relatively minor problem … but you’re going to end general support for a still-widely used OS by breaking it? Fortunately, saner minds prevailed; Microsoft backtracked and stated that a fix would be released to all. We don’t yet know how or when, but it’s reassuring when Microsoft cleans up after itself.” So said Susan, the Patch Lady.

But I don’t know. I am conflicted, sort of looking forward to this black screen with things floating on it, kind of a sulkily rebellious Goth look, you know? But also sort of dreading it… But then I think: and how does one get to have this dark a look? Not by just asking for it, but by it being descended on you in the most natural way possible: by a broken patch from MS. From AN ORIGINAL, GENUINE BROKEN PATCH FROM MS, mind you! Not every Tom, Dick or Harry gets to have one of those. You have to suffer years and years of dealing with MS patches before you are in a position to appreciate, to deserve, to qualify for that darkened-screen look in all its deep, forbidding, disturbing obscurity!

Oh well: When that patch finally arrives, when one finally, for the very last time, has got to go patch, then, stiffen that upper lip and go patch!

So: goodbye, sweet dark screen, gentle dreams that the coming of morning nevermore shall end; rest easy, ye buggy patches, in memory still a bilious green… Gone are the snows of yesteryear, gone is Win 7’s support. Home is the sailor, home from sea. And the hunter home from the hill.
Or something like that. Just saying.

Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
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If I am interpreting the 2020-01-27 Office Master Update file correctly, those of us with Office 2016 C2R retail versions should not be making updates after the 12/10/2019 Release, Version 12228.20364, which I had done earlier.  Is this correct?

The Master list also shows a

1/14/2020 Release, Version 1235.20298 without an update recommendation,

and the Microsoft Update History page shows additional updates on

01/22/2020, Version 12325.20344, and

01/30/2020, Version 12430.20184.

Needless to say, I am very conflicted regarding just WHEN to toggle my Office update switch, since it will update the Microsoft’s latest updates.

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Win 10 Pro 1809 x64 Dell Inspiron i7

MS Office Pro v1911 Build 12228.20364 2016 Click-to-Run

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You should be able to independently do updates for Office as compared to Windows 10.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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OscarCP wrote:

But then I think: and how does one get to have this dark a look? Not by just asking for it, but by it being descended on you in the most natural way possible: by a broken patch from MS. From AN ORIGINAL, GENUINE BROKEN PATCH FROM MS, mind you!

Yep, that’s the Windows Genuine Advantage for ya.  😉

 

Keep Running Windows 7 Safely for Years to Come  
Make Windows 10 look and work like Windows 7

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Susan Bradley wrote:

You should be able to independently do updates for Office as compared to Windows 10.

Sorry again, the anonymous reply at 10:45 PM is from me.  I thought I had logged in.
I also just noticed the “quote” button.

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Susan Bradley wrote in #2129766: “You should be able to independently do updates for Office as compared to Windows 10.”  {Sorry – I did not find how to create the peach reply quote, nor how to make my reply appear under my original query.}

I assume you mean to apply the dozen individual KB updates listed this month for Office 2016 MSI and that they are compatible with C2R.  Does this site provide instructions for applying such Office patches?  Does the order of installation matter?

It has been my understanding that the Office Update button on the Office Account page is the only means to update the Click-to-Run versions of Office.  Using them results in MS downloading and installing what I believe is the latest they have to offer, which may not yet be a release recommended by the AskWoody team.

There is still the issue that the 2020-01-27 Office Master Update file does not indicate that the C2R versions should even be updated with newer than 12/10/2019 patches.

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