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     rc primak 6 days, 8 hours ago.

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    • #340498 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      Yesterday, Microsoft posted an odd Knowledge Base article that has me scratching my head. KB 4492307 says: Windows automatically installs updates to k
      [See the full post at: Microsoft announces auto-uninstall for bad Win10 patches]

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    • #340523 Reply

      arfurdent
      AskWoody Lounger

      and what else gets removed, 1803 etc?

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      • #340537 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        Good question. If you read the KB article closely, it only applies to Win10 cumulative updates and Win10 driver updates. I think. That isn’t made clear in the KB article.

    • #340579 Reply

      anonymous

      I don’t think this is new. I’ve had very similar messages in the past when quality updates have failed to completely install. In those particular cases I figured it was just reporting a rollback as the install had failed.

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      • #340614 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        I believe that’s EXACTLY what the KB is meant to describe.

        But… I wonder why they’re documenting it now? Update failure rollbacks have been a feature for at least a hundred years.

        The error I’m familiar with is “Failure configuring Windows updates. Reverting changes. Do not turn off your computer.”

        (Note that the official KB documentation on that one is only for Win7 and 8.1 — but I’ve seen the error puh-len-ty of times on Win10.)

    • #340618 Reply

      b
      AskWoody Plus

      The new KB is only available in Australian English?

      It think we’ve seen that before with slightly unusual stuff.

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      • #340619 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss
        • #340627 Reply

          b
          AskWoody Plus

          Thanks. I wasn’t able to find that via Bing or Google.

          (Perhaps the Aussie editions are just findable earlier.)

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          • #340750 Reply

            woody
            Da Boss

            I found it by manually changing the URL…

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            • #340758 Reply

              b
              AskWoody Plus

              I’ve done that before, but didn’t try this time.

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      • #340697 Reply

        anonymous

        Too bad they did not use colorful Australian vernacular in the text, it would have been interesting to read.

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    • #340739 Reply

      anonymous

      Addresses an issue that may degrade graphics and mouse performance with desktop gaming when playing certain games, such as Destiny 2, after installing KB4482887.

      I’m putting this one in my pocket for future use when I need to give someone a practical example of why they should never click “Check for Updates” in Windows 10.

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    • #340747 Reply

      warrenrumak
      AskWoody Plus

      This makes a ton of sense for driver updates that cause a startup failure.

       

      • #341670 Reply

        rc primak
        AskWoody_MVP

        Better yet, if possible, block all driver updates through MS Update.

        -- rc primak

    • #340753 Reply

      RamRod
      AskWoody Lounger

      This tells me a lot about the telemetry MS is gathering. I think they are practically monitoring the performance of their OS on your machine in real-time. Obviously this is headed towards MS-365 – their OS in the cloud running on your machine. You will have no control over the OS and its settings – they will control the control system for your machine.

      No thanks.

      Really.

      Nope. Not gonna do that.

      • #340766 Reply

        b
        AskWoody Plus

        Obviously? I don’t think this has anything to do with telemetry. It’s about local recovery.

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        • #340892 Reply

          RamRod
          AskWoody Lounger

          It has everything to do with Telemetry – how else do you think they know which update failed on your machine? Or when your machine last rebooted? Or how many times it rebooted? Or which websites you are visiting?

          • #340923 Reply

            woody
            Da Boss

            Rushing to @b‘s defense….

            It isn’t necessarily a telemetry function – although it could be implemented that way. It could also be entirely local.

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          • #340943 Reply

            b
            AskWoody Plus

            Windows has enough intelligence to detect failed restarts, especially after an update, without needing to send telemetry for remote analysis. Try interrupting Windows startup with the power button three times in a row, which automatically accesses the recovery environment menu. I think you must be joking about “sites visited”, which can’t be connected with restart recovery in any way.

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    • #340759 Reply

      John
      AskWoody Lounger

      So it installs a update, determines it didn’t go well, then uninstalls it. I guess its a start, but would rather see the update not install in the first place. I wonder how long before Windows update would again try and install it?

      • #340768 Reply

        b
        AskWoody Plus

        Link and quote and post all say 30 days.

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    • #340850 Reply

      Microfix
      AskWoody MVP

      boot-loop ‘feature upgrade’ coming to a W10 near you.
      (with MS .vxd files being a prime candidate) đŸ˜›

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    • #340896 Reply

      T
      AskWoody Plus

      Windows automatically installs updates to keep your device secure and running at peak efficiency. Occasionally, these updates can fail due to incompatibility or issues in new software firing a substantial portion of our quality testers.

      Fixed that for them.

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      • #340924 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        HA! I hope Dustin Childs sees this…

        • #340961 Reply

          T
          AskWoody Plus

          I’m not familiar with the name, was he one of the quality assurance team who got laid-off during the mass cull?

    • #341038 Reply

      mn–
      AskWoody Lounger

      … so are they getting better at detecting which part was the one that failed?

      Reminds me of the time when I first installed a cumulative update, then connected a certain peripheral device which worked fine with W7… and the PC crashed and started reverting Windows 10 updates.

      If it had been smart enough to just unload the autoinstalled driver for that device, would’ve been a lot less of a hassle.

      (Did eventually find a working driver version, not even from the device manufacturer. Connecting the USB cable from that device to a PC that doesn’t already have the working driver installed would seem to be dangerous…)

      • #341673 Reply

        rc primak
        AskWoody_MVP

        It’s not going to act on parts of a failed update. It’s all or nothing. The entire update, even a CU, would have to be rolled back and hidden until the next monthly CU.

        -- rc primak

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