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      • #158517 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        Of course, predictably, nobody’s saying which ones are now back on the patch list. Post coming in Computerworld. Thx @MrBrian
        [See the full post at: Microsoft apparently reinstates Meltdown/Spectre patches for some AMD processors]

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      • #158537 Reply
        radosuaf
        AskWoody Lounger

        Anybody got this?

        MSI H110 PC MATE * Intel Core i5-6402P * 2 x 8 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2133 MHz * Aorus Radeon RX 570 4GB * Samsung 840 EVO 250GB SSD * Western Digital Blue 1TB HDD * Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD * DVD RW Lite-ON iHAS 124 * Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer PCI * Windows 10 Pro 2004 64-bit
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        • #158545 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          Oh no. Not another one….

          Wait. Is that the October 3 driver? Something’s fishy.

          • #158553 Reply
            radosuaf
            AskWoody Lounger

            Description in WU says: “Yesterday”. Catalog says Oct 3rd, 2016…

            MSI H110 PC MATE * Intel Core i5-6402P * 2 x 8 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2133 MHz * Aorus Radeon RX 570 4GB * Samsung 840 EVO 250GB SSD * Western Digital Blue 1TB HDD * Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD * DVD RW Lite-ON iHAS 124 * Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer PCI * Windows 10 Pro 2004 64-bit
          • #158579 Reply
            FakeNinja
            AskWoody Lounger

            What do you mean by “another one”? What are these strange intel updates? I also have a few of these in my Windows Update.

        • #158561 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          Yep I got it yesterday and hid it.

        • #158563 Reply
          BobbyB
          AskWoody Lounger

          Not yet, and not hidden either; Just did a check, got about 588.1Mb’s (inc Office 2010) of updates all dated this year alas 🙁

          • #158564 Reply
            radosuaf
            AskWoody Lounger

            I got 7 updates for my Office 2007 yesterday :).

            MSI H110 PC MATE * Intel Core i5-6402P * 2 x 8 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2133 MHz * Aorus Radeon RX 570 4GB * Samsung 840 EVO 250GB SSD * Western Digital Blue 1TB HDD * Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD * DVD RW Lite-ON iHAS 124 * Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer PCI * Windows 10 Pro 2004 64-bit
        • #158706 Reply
          Karlston
          AskWoody Plus

          Yep, here too.

          It’s a driver offered by Windows Update so it gets the usual treatment… unchecked and hidden.

          Grunble time… here in Australia (and probably lots of other countries) that date is interpreted as 10th of March (dd/mm/yyyy), not October 3rd (mm/dd/yyyy).  And they want us to use Windows 10 S to educate our children… spleen vented… 🙂

          Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

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        • #158902 Reply
          bhen
          AskWoody Lounger

          As someone who had to deal with that update popping up on a W10 recently… I dislike that ‘update’ immensely. The people on 7/8.1 probably have an easier time dealing with that than people on 10.

          I probably made a mistake or two in the process, but I eventually just fresh started the computer and haven’t had it pop up in the weeks since then. I’m still sorta left to wonder why that update arrived for me a year after it really got attention on here and other places.

          It’s not like getting error 0x80070643 on KB4054517 causes it to start fetching that computer-wrecking junk out of confusion? It was something else in the process, I’m sure.

      • #158565 Reply
        Seff
        AskWoody Plus

        I’m being offered KB4056894 again on my AMD Phenom II machine, this time it’s checked.

        • #158727 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          Me too on my AMD FX. I installed it (after creating a restore point to prevent havoc) and everything is ok (as fas as now)

      • #158572 Reply
        byteme
        AskWoody Plus

        I’m being offered KB4056894 (checked) on my Dell desktop with an Intel processor and an AMD Radeon HD 7570 video card.

        • #158589 Reply
          Seff
          AskWoody Plus

          I’m also being offered that update on my Intel machine with an AMD Radeon graphics card, but then I always have been – it was never withdrawn unlike on my AMD Phenom II machine.

      • #158577 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        On 1/10/2018 Microsoft released Security-only update KB4073576 for:

        Unbootable state for AMD devices in Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2

        Summary

        An update is available to fix the following issue that occurs after you install January 3, 2018—KB4056898 (Security-only update) or January 8, 2018—KB4056895 (Monthly Rollup):

        AMD devices fall into an unbootable state.

        See The Microsoft Support page.

        This update has been added to the Group B Knowledge Base AKB2000003.

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      • #158568 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        I have an Intel CPU and AMD video card on Windows 7. Still haven’t received any security patches for January via Windows Update. Just checked again now, nothing shows up.

      • #158591 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Installed the recent update (KB4056894) on an old AMD C-50 and it booted up fine. I wasn’t too concerned about any performance issues as it’s not the quickest CPU but I was surprised the machine didn’t throw up upon reboot.

      • #158599 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Dell desktop with Win 7 Intel i7 processor and AMD Radeon HD 7770 video card … I’m being offered KB4056894 (checked) when I run windows update.

        Not running the update yet, but I’m confused as to why a GPU would be affected by the patch?  CPU could make sense as well a combined APU, but the GPU?

      • #158603 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Just read the following, as AMD looks to be releasing some CPU patches:

        https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/11/16880922/amd-spectre-firmware-updates-ryzen-epyc

        AMD is also revealing that its Radeon GPU architecture isn’t impacted by Meltdown or Spectre, simply because those GPUs “do not use speculative execution and thus are not susceptible to these threats.”

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      • #158647 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Windows Updates didn’t show up anything but the Flash player update on the Intel boxes here. Looks like they called off Patch Tuesday for smart folks… Don’t touch the button, don’t touch nuttin’, right?

        • #158654 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          If your anti-virus program has not set the ALLOW Regkey to indicate it is compatible with the updates, the Rollup and the .NET patches will not show up in Windows Update.

          January Rollups are causing BSODs in computers with certain AMD processors. Microsoft has blocked the Rollups for those computers.

          • #158865 Reply
            anonymous
            Guest

            It’s all Microsoft, no third-party stuff… The story is that folks better don’t touch the check-for-updates button and let Microsoft decide when it’s time to deploy those patches. Manually checking for updates triggers the update system to deliver each and everything, and the kitchen sink…

      • #158665 Reply
        Geo
        AskWoody Plus

        This time 894 was checked.  Didn`t update yet.  Sempron 145.

      • #158666 Reply
        MrBrian
        AskWoody_MVP

        From AMD’s statement (my bolding) “Microsoft is distributing patches for the majority of AMD systems now. We are working closely with them to correct an issue that paused the distribution of patches for some older AMD processors (AMD Opteron, Athlon and AMD Turion X2 Ultra families) earlier this week. We expect this issue to be corrected shortly and Microsoft should resume updates for these older processors by next week.”

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      • #158664 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        I just got 894 again.  Win 7X64, Sempron 145, I use Microsoft Security essentials.  Didn`t  update, waiting for MS- defcon to change before updating.

      • #158688 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        What is (Windows 10 1607) KB4049411 a Creator’s/Feature update related patch and not the Spectre patch for AMD systems?

        • #159372 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          KB4049011 is the servicing stack for 1607

      • #158716 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Is there something wrong with the registration on this site? I registered two days ago but I have yet to receive a confirmation email along with a password. Any help would be appreciated.

        • #158719 Reply
          Kirsty
          Da Boss

          No specific fault with registration that we know of; however, occasional problems can occur with emails (such as spam filters). As you did not mention your user name, I suggest you email Woody, who should be able to set/reset your password, to get you going.

          If you choose to reply with your username, we can check if the account is showing, as a first step (and it shouldn’t need to be published here!). Hopefully you’re on board without too much delay 🙂

          • #158734 Reply
            anonymous
            Guest

            My username was Hopper15. Sorry I forgot to include it.

            • #158738 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              Your user name is on the system. Woody has been notified and should send a password to your registered email address before too long.

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      • #158739 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water –

        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cyber-security-intel/intel-says-patches-can-cause-reboot-problems-in-old-chips-idUSKBN1F101X

         

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      • #158752 Reply
        Sailor
        AskWoody Lounger

        I got update KB4023057 for my Windows 10 1703.

      • #158793 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        I tried replying to @radosuaf but got “Error establishing a database connection”.

        These Intel patches in Windows Update seem endless even when blocked. I had one marked “important” last month that I ignored on advice from the folks here and one optional called “Ports” recently. I unchecked both and they disappeared eventually. I usually hide them but they just come back.

        It makes me wonder how many people get stuck with these random patches due to having WU set to automatic.

      • #158874 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        My dad’s (AMD processor) computer has tanked after the recent update this week.  Has anyone seen a solution for those machines?  Thanks!

        • #158880 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          You may be able to boot from your Rescue Disk, go to System Restore, and restore to a point before the update.

      • #158925 Reply
        MrBrian
        AskWoody_MVP

        Windows 7 has a fixed update available.

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      • #158938 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        On 1/12/2018 Microsoft released Security-only update KB4073578 for:

        Unbootable state for AMD devices in Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1

        Summary

        An update is available to fix the following issue that occurs after you install January 3, 2018—KB4056897 (Security-only update) or January 4, 2018—KB4056894 (Monthly Rollup):

        AMD devices fall into an unbootable state.

        See Microsoft Support page

        This update has been added to the Group B Knowledge Base AKB2000003.

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        • #158963 Reply
          DrBonzo
          AskWoody Plus

          Is this – KB4078578 – an additional security only update or a replacement for KB4056897?

          I don’t believe I have any AMD chips in my computer, but there have been a couple reports of BSOD on Intel machines, so I’m wondering if I should install this new patch even though it’s strongly implied by MS that it’s for AMD chips.

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        • #159333 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          Sorry for be being dense here, but how do you apply a patch to a computer that’s in an unbootable state?

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          • #159470 Reply
            MrBrian
            AskWoody_MVP

            I think Microsoft’s intention is that affected users remove the bad update via methods already discussed, and then install the new update.

      • #158982 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Microsoft released two updates to fix the bug with older AMD CPUs, KB4073578 for Windows 7 and KB4073576 for Windows 8.1, but… nothing for Windows 10!

        So the bug is still present in Windows 10, and for the bad… Windows Update started to offering the Windows 10 cumulative update again in the affected AMD machines, and after reboot Windows stuck in Windows logo again! :S

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      • #159369 Reply
        bjm
        AskWoody Lounger

        What is (Windows 10 1607) KB4049411 a Creator’s/Feature update related patch and not the Spectre patch for AMD systems?

        same question:  What is KB4049411 on W10 1607

        • #159371 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          You have a typo in the number
          KB4049011 is the servicing stack.

          • #159385 Reply
            anonymous
            Guest

            I’m an the quoted anonymous person. Having rechecked wushowhide it does indeed list Update for Windows 10 Version 1607 for x64-based systems (KB4049411).

            The update number you for which have provided a correction is a November 2017 update described on the Windows update catalog site. Unfortunately there is no KB4049411 for download available on the update catalog site, therefore it does looks like another suspicious attempt at Microsoft ‘s shenanigans.

            • #159390 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              You are so right about 4049411 not being listed in the Catalog or on the Software Update Services page. For some reason I had 4049011 (servicing stack) listed in my notes. ???

              • #159409 Reply
                anonymous
                Guest

                I do apologize if that was gruff in tone, it looks as if somebody might have to install the thing or figure out how to separately download this package.

                According to more KB4049411 search results perhaps it is another way to get users to fumble and upgrade to the Version 1709 (Green Screen of Death Edition). Most of the results show that package to be related to installation failure error messages starting last November.

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        • #159432 Reply
          Hopper15
          AskWoody Lounger

          Microsoft released two updates to fix the bug with older AMD CPUs, KB4073578 for Windows 7 and KB4073576 for Windows 8.1, but… nothing for Windows 10! So the bug is still present in Windows 10, and for the bad… Windows Update started to offering the Windows 10 cumulative update again in the affected AMD machines, and after reboot Windows stuck in Windows logo again! :S

          I wonder if that’s going to be offered this Tuesday via WU.

      • #163190 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Does anyone know if bsod is happening with AMD e-350 cpus? I have Win 7 Home Premium

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