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    • #2138411 Reply

      joep517
      AskWoody MVP

      According to Mary Jo Foley, Microsoft has backed off its plans to change the search engine to Bing for its Office 365 Pro Plus customers. See for more
      [See the full post at: Microsoft backtracks on Office search changes]

      --Joe

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    • #2138417 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      At last! Some sanity returns…..

      • #2138422 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        The only question is, how long it will last before MS tries something else like that.

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      • #2138548 Reply

        Fred
        AskWoody Plus

        Really?  Today February 11 2020, at around 12.00hrs (GMT+1) my browser search in Chrome and Firefox was Highjacked, some sites were cut off, my hosts-file date was changed to that moment.
        I didn’t have any updates, they were stopped for weeks, was using VPN,
        => so Woody’s backdoor (0Day) misuse is quite valid, I think

        After all.. Just because we're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get us.
        • #2138560 Reply

          b
          AskWoody Plus

          Nothing to do with Microsoft then.

          Windows 10 Pro Version 2004: Group ASAP (chump/pioneer)

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        • #2138564 Reply

          jabeattyauditor
          AskWoody Lounger

          Sounds more like malware than anything else, or some very poorly-behaved browser extensions.

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          • #2139458 Reply

            Fred
            AskWoody Plus

            Sounds more like malware than anything else, or some very poorly-behaved browser extensions.

            No [AT]Jabeattyauditor it wasn’t malware alltogether; there was a Cnet download involved, and Windows had taken over the searchengine plus the website-checking.
            So, I saved my logs to pass on, and went back two weeks in time by putting back an image
            Till now the February updates from yesterday seem to be okay

            After all.. Just because we're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get us.
            • This reply was modified 1 week ago by  Fred.
            • This reply was modified 1 week ago by  PKCano.
            • #2139779 Reply

              jabeattyauditor
              AskWoody Lounger

              Have you considered the possibility that what you downloaded from CNet was infected or contained search-engine-redirecting adware?

              It’s not uncommon…

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            • #2139806 Reply

              rc primak
              AskWoody_MVP

              No doubt about it, CNet Downloads do stuff like this all by themselves. I use other download sites whenever possible because of the bad behavior of CNet Downloads.

              -- rc primak

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    • #2138464 Reply

      joep517
      AskWoody MVP

      If you read the linked Microsoft article, Update to Microsoft Search in Bing through Office 365 ProPlus, you’ll find that Microsoft is not completely abandoning the idea but planning on putting more administrative controls in place.

      --Joe

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      • #2138468 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        Mnnnnnfffft! Here’s what the (unsigned) Office 365 announcement says:

        Based on your feedback, we are making a few changes to our plan:

        • The Microsoft Search in Bing browser extension will not be automatically deployed with Office 365 ProPlus. 
        • Through a new toggle in Microsoft 365 admin center, administrators will be able to opt in to deploy the browser extension to their organization through Office 365 ProPlus. 

        Incredibly, spectacularly tone-deaf.

        • #2138496 Reply

          joep517
          AskWoody MVP

          I think it depends on the implementation of the new controls. For an organization that is used to dealing with large organizations where a controlled rollout (i.e Windows 10 feature releases) is the usual method, you’d expect Microsoft to implement a finer grained control. They have been very ham handed in this so far though.

          I really don’t have a problem for an Ofice 365 organization to decide to use this extension. From what I’ve read it could be useful for finding internal information/documents/people. But, controls should be at least down to departments/AD organization units if not to individual users.

          --Joe

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        • #2138499 Reply

          b
          AskWoody Plus

          Incredibly, spectacularly tone-deaf.

          Microsoft reversed course, just as you, Susan and I thought they would.

          It will now be opt-in rather than opt-out, as it always should have been.

          As MJ Foley said, “But “customer feedback” has yet again saved the day.”

          There’s nothing tone-deaf about that, even if it took them a couple of weeks.

          Windows 10 Pro Version 2004: Group ASAP (chump/pioneer)

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        • #2138502 Reply

          jabeattyauditor
          AskWoody Lounger

          Can you clarify? What do you think is tone-deaf about their response?

          I’m not a fan of Bing in any form, but they’re providing a bunch of options for deployment of the Bing search (if you want it, for whatever reason), and they’re not forcing it upon anyone.

          Isn’t that what we usually ask for?

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          • #2138505 Reply

            Alex5723
            AskWoody Plus

            but they’re providing a bunch of options for deployment of the Bing search

            Microsoft doesn’t have to provide a thing. Anyone who wants to change search engines in Chrome, Firefox… can do so today without Microsoft’s “help”.

            So yes, they are tone-deaf.

            • #2138511 Reply

              jabeattyauditor
              AskWoody Lounger

              That’s great when your user count < 2, but for large organizations (the folks actually using Office 365 Pro Plus), the ability to manage and support a consistent application package matters a bit more.

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            • #2138512 Reply

              b
              AskWoody Plus

              That is not the case in enterprises, where it helps to have everyone using the same search engine for corporate documents; and this proposed change only applies to enterprises.

              Windows 10 Pro Version 2004: Group ASAP (chump/pioneer)

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