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     EP 2 months, 2 weeks ago.

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    • #343589 Reply

      PKCano
      Da Boss

      For those of you wondering how you will get the nag for Windows 7 EOL, Microsoft has released KB4493132 on March 19, 2019. @cybertooth asks Windows Up
      [See the full post at: Microsoft issues KB4493132 Windows 7 SP1 support notification]

    • #343598 Reply

      T
      AskWoody Plus

      Thank you!

      Now I have a course of action – right click > hide update

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    • #343601 Reply

      Pepsiboy
      AskWoody Lounger

      Ditto the above. Just because I can not stand nagware ! ! ! BUT, i doubt that this will be the only nagware we get about this.

      Dave

    • #343602 Reply

      gborn
      AskWoody_MVP

      I got this night a user feedback, asking, what this update was for. The the user mentioned, that he had several install failures. He then hided this update in Win 7.

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    • #343608 Reply

      anonymous

      “Hiding this patch is suggested for those of you who don’t want multiple reminders during the next year.”

      What’s the betting that, just like the Silverlight install, this update will transmogrify itself into another, now-unhidden, update at frequent intervals?

      </cynical>

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      • #343790 Reply

        SueW
        AskWoody Plus

        You mean something similar to our “friend” KB2952664???

        Win 7 SP1 Home Premium 64-bit; Office 2010; Group B; Former 'Tech Weenie'

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    • #343627 Reply

      anonymous

      Windows 7 Pro SP1..Just checked my WU and I’m not being offered this one yet. Maybe later. With M$ who knows.

      • #343706 Reply

        Charlie
        AskWoody Plus

        Same here, I don’t find it in with the Important Updates, but I do find it in with the Optional Updates which I rarely if ever download & install. If at some point it shows up in my Important Updates, I’ll just uncheck it or hide it.

        Win 7 Home Premium, x64, Intel i3-2120 3.3GHz, Groups B & L

    • #343629 Reply

      Cybertooth
      AskWoody Lounger

      A Windows 7 user in the MS Answers forum for Spain reports Windows running extremely slowly, and being unable to install any updates or programs, after installing KB4493132. A clean boot didn’t help, and the only restore point that shows is the one created the latest time he/she tried (unsuccessfully) to update Windows.

      Two other viewers have the same question.

       

      • #343680 Reply

        abbodi86
        AskWoody_MVP

        That’s just paranoia

        the update only add one file C:Windows\System32\sipnotify.exe and two schedule tasks to run it
        nothing of that would affect system performance

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        • #343781 Reply

          Cybertooth
          AskWoody Lounger

          Maybe so. As I write this, the number of people saying “I have the same question” in the Answers forum for Spain is now up to 7.

           

    • #343659 Reply

      Geo
      AskWoody Plus

      This is why W10 is having problems.  They have everyone concentrating  on harassing W7 users and neglecting  W10; because they know if millions of W7 users stay with it after end of life they will have to keep updating it.

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    • #343669 Reply

      anonymous

      ? says:

      thank you for the timely heads up. if someone finds this in the registry please post the location…

    • #343682 Reply

      abbodi86
      AskWoody_MVP

      Beta disable mitigations 🙂
      https://pastebin.com/DQYkZhsT

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      • #343691 Reply

        anonymous

        ? says:

        thank you, abbodi86! you are the champ!

    • #343705 Reply

      anonymous

      Just did my weekly check on my HTPC running Win 7 (updates are always set for manual).  This one was right there and I hid it.  Running my monthly system image to make sure that I have a working backup.

    • #343715 Reply

      BobT
      AskWoody Lounger

      At least they’ve done it right this time.

      Of course since I have CONTROL OF MY UPDATING PROCESS ON MY OWN MACHINE, I was simply able to hide it, and move on with my life.

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    • #343712 Reply

      anonymous

      Translation:
      Thank you very much for the above information jola

    • #343729 Reply

      GoneToPlaid
      AskWoody Plus

      My home Win7 Group B computers aren’t showing this update. Has it been pulled?

      • #343785 Reply

        Cybertooth
        AskWoody Lounger

        FWIW, my Windows 7 laptop is also showing this update. Both machines list it as Important but unchecked.

         

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      • #343871 Reply

        rick41
        AskWoody Lounger

        Group A.  Just checked for updates — 11:30pm 3-20 — and I’m not being offered KB4493132 in either the Important or Optional tabs.  So I’m also wondering if it might have been pulled.

        Or, while I suppose this is unlikely, I was wondering if my machine is being excluded because its Win7 Pro 64-bit was a manufacturer-installed downgrade from Win 8.

    • #343738 Reply

      cogx
      AskWoody Lounger

      There’s one night and day difference between this notification update and the prior Windows 10 “upgrade” debacle: Windows 10 is no longer free.  Microsoft can certainly make these Windows 7 EOS notifications come up multiple times, if they want them to, but it’s not like before when you had to worry every second of every day on whether or not your PC would automatically switch to running Windows 10 against your will.

       

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      • #343743 Reply

        Microfix
        Da Boss

        Very true, hiding it seems logical and will probably appear monthly akin to kb2952664 from now on.. 🙁

        ********** Peng/Wins x86/x64 **********

        - µfix

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    • #343751 Reply

      OscarCP
      AskWoody Plus

      Installing it would be like playing a slow, drawn-out, endless funeral march.

      Most people now using Windows 7 should be able to do various things after (or even before) January of next year, from putting Windows 7 in a VM and installing Linux as the main OS “on bare metal”, to switching to using Macs, to staying unpatched, at least for several months, while figuring out their best next move.

      So most people do not need this patch and are better off by hiding it. — or uninstalling it, if it gets, somehow, installed. Only the very forgetful should install it, perhaps?

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    • #343772 Reply

      Seff
      AskWoody Plus

      If this update is run frequently with the sole aim of persuading users to upgrade, it would be interesting to see the outcome of an action against Microsoft for harassment – which primarily in the case of the US could presumably be dealt with by way of a class action. Depending, of course, on whether the claim that it can be turned off proves to be any more reliable than various other previous statements by Microsoft.

      • #343783 Reply

        OscarCP
        AskWoody Plus

        “Class action.” Well Seff, I am not 100% sure, only 99.999% sure that is something that is forbidden expressly in the contract with MS that you explicitly or implicitly agreed to when activating Windows 7 in your PC. In which case “arbitration” with some company-friendly private adjudicator is your only legal way to sort out disagreements and grievances with MS. (Does anyone here know any different?)

        This is not unusual in contracts between users and providers, these days, and is also something strongly contested by pro-consumer organizations, but that has been going nowhere fast in these US of A for decades now.

        • #343812 Reply

          Seff
          AskWoody Plus

          I’m sure you’re right, however what will be particularly interesting in the case of this “reminder” from MS will be not so much the follow-up for those who choose to hide it, I’m sure they’ll continue to be offered it each month, but rather the experience of those who install it but then click on the “Do not notify me again” option. How will they fare, I wonder.

          • #343816 Reply

            OscarCP
            AskWoody Plus

            Please, Seff: stop rubbing your hands in anticipation!

            Also: If what you imagine might happen turns out to be the case, then those installing as Group A will have no choice but to install it every time they install the monthly rollups, unless MS, in a case of unprecedented user-friendliness, keeps the installation of the monthly S&Q rollups and of this patch well-separate from each other

            • #343831 Reply

              Seff
              AskWoody Plus

              Hehe Oscar, I don’t think I’m rubbing my hands in anticipation – but I do think that quite a few Windows 7 enthusiasts will have seen some of these developments this month as offering the beginnings of a glimmer of hope that all is not yet lost. Microsoft are finally acknowledging the reality of the present situation, with both users and developers, so it will be interesting to see how the coming months unfold between now and next year.

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      • #343901 Reply

        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Since no one has ever taken MICROSOFT to court over $Trillions of damages due to buggy updates, BSODs, crashed Windows PCs, crashed networks, forced Windows 10 upgrades… no one will take them to court over some Windows 7 nagging.
        The only time Microsoft lost in court in recent years was when customers demanded refund of Windows OS license after not agreeing to Windows EULA or formatting Windows OS on new PCs. Customers got $50 as refund.

        • #343975 Reply

          doriel
          AskWoody Lounger

          Hello. The first sentence in EULA for Win10 is: (I see it practically every day)

          IF YOU LIVE IN (OR IF YOUR PRINCIPAL PLACE OF BUSINESS IS IN) THE UNITED STATES, PLEASE READ THE BINDING ARBITRATION CLAUSE AND CLASS ACTION WAIVER IN SECTION 10. IT AFFECTS HOW DISPUTES ARE RESOLVED.

          Basically by installing Windows, you agreed, that you must go to court alone, if you live in USofA 🙂

          Sure.. the best way for protecting money, is to silence all with some problem caused by your SW. Right, Micro$oft? 🙂 Also, What are ads doing in operating system?? If someone in Linux did this, he’d be fired.. Out of the cannon.. into the sun.

          Best regards,

          Zdenek.

          Please follow the –Lounge Rules

    • #343862 Reply

      anonymous

      ? says:

      beating the dead horse,
      https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/kb4493132-update-notifies-windows-7-users-of-end-of-support-date/

      pretty much a complete description of the inner springs. not to be found in the catalog, yet

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      • #343884 Reply

        samak
        AskWoody Plus

        Interesting that the article states:
        “The Notify1 task will execute the command %windir%\system32\sipnotify.exe -LogonOrUnlock when a user logs in or the computer is unlocked.
        The Notify2 task will execute the command %windir%\system32\sipnotify.exe -Daily as 12:00 PM every day.”

        So it sounds like you might get a few notifications in 1 day if you login, then you later unlock the computer and then again at 12:00 PM.
        This should be enough to drive anyone mad!

        W7 SP1 Home Premium 64-bit, Office 2010, Group B, non-techie

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        • #344135 Reply

          anonymous

          ? says:

          hi samak,

          if you see # 344084 by Speccy in “Windows 10 Nag…” he opened the .CAB file (where did that come from? i could not get it in the catalog) and saw the scheduled roll outs. i guess if a person gets bit by this EOL reminder bug, then fixing it in the registry would be the best remedy? i hope “they,” don’t plant it in the monthly rollups or SO’s…

          • #344142 Reply

            PKCano
            Da Boss

            Did you see @abbodi86 ‘s script above?

            • #344146 Reply

              anonymous

              ? says:

              yes, thank you! weird it is in HKCU rather than HKLM like XP’s EOL was…

              very nice that abbodi86 wrote and posted the registry RX on the fly for us and Speccy posted information on the contents of the .CAB file.

    • #343874 Reply

      The psychology of this puzzles me, but I’m not prone to subtlety…who, running Win 7 right now does NOT know about the January 2020? People under a rock or working in remote areas of the world? Tuva, Outer Mongolia, Jungles of Sumatra, Tierra Del Fuego, etc.

      Seriously, thanks to all the crew who help us keep abreast of this hocus-pocus!

      Oh, BTW, oddly enough, just checked WU and there’s no KB4493132 showing up anywhere!

      Weird.

      Win7 Pro SP1 64-bit, Dell Latitude E6330, Intel CORE i5 "Ivy Bridge", Group "A/B [negative] :)", Multiple Air-Gapped backup drives in different locations, "Don't check for updates-Full Manual Mode."
      --
      "...All the people, all the time..." (Peter Ustinov ad-lib from "Logan's Run")

      • #343885 Reply

        anonymous

        It might be surprising to see how many people don’t or wouldn’t know – they either take all updates or don’t update at all – they use their computer for what they want to do and don’t worry about all this stuff the way we might. It can be fun to engage in MS bashing, but it does start to pale after a while, we use their systems as we want, and look into alternatives. They did wreck it with Win 10 for a lot of people, not least of whom the majority of people on the planet who don’t have luxury internet connections – the time has come to change, use Windows offline, do whatever and adapt – hope this doesn’t come out as some kind of attack on you – don’t mean it that way – most people will just keep clicking on the nag and not worry about it – could be argued that they have a duty of care to put this nag on computers?

    • #343933 Reply

      geekdom
      AskWoody Plus

      I continue to keep GWX Control Panel on my computer. KB4493132 has not appeared in the update queue.

      Group G{ot backup} Win7Pro · x64 · SP1 · i3-3220 · TestBeta
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    • #344008 Reply

      anonymous

      I wonder if MS has built any intelligence into the notifications. Will the notification be different on old 32-bit hardware that can’t be updated to Win 10 (CPU instruction set – PAE, SSE2, NX)?

      While this is a non-issue for probably everyone here, a lot of XP era machines were upgraded to Win 7 32-bit (e.g. early P4). World-wide, I’d venture a guess that the number of these computers still in use is not statistically insignificant, especially in developing nations.

      – Carl –

      • #344013 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        Win7 will be EOL on old computers as well as later ones.
        This is a notification of Win7 EOL, not another GWX campaign (we hope).

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    • #344136 Reply

      dgreen
      AskWoody Lounger

      reporting in regarding KB4493132 appearing when I manually did a windows update search.

      KB4493132 did appear as important but unchecked.  I hid it.
      However, what I did notice in my hidden updates…
      Comparing the snip it shot I took earlier this month (march 8th the first attachment)
      to what it shows today when I hid the kb4493132….(2nd attachment)
      KB2952664 was not there anymore (in my hidden updates) where it has been there.
      Anyone else?

      Dell Inspiron 660 (new hard drive installed and Windows 7 reloaded Nov. 2017)
      Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP 1 GROUP A
      Processor: Intel i3-3240 (ivy bridge 3rd generation)
      chipset Intel (R) 7 series/C216
      chipset family SATA AHCI Controller -1 E02
      NIC Realtek PCLE GBE Family Controller
      MSE antivirus
      Chrome browser

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      • #344145 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        The KB2952664 functionality was rolled into the Monthly Rollups in October last. Perhaps they changed the metadata to show it superceded by one of the later Rollups, since it is no longer needed as a separate update.

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    • #344154 Reply

      dgreen
      AskWoody Lounger

      The KB2952664 functionality was rolled into the Monthly Rollups in October last. Perhaps they changed the metadata to show it superceded by one of the later Rollups, since it is no longer needed as a separate update.

      PKCano It does not show up in my installed updates either!?
      It has always been in my hidden updates.
      The only updates I’ve been doing since March 8 (which I did the Feb. rollup then and took the snip it after that which it shows up)
      are Microsoft Security Essentials Definitions and I don’t do that through Windows Update.
      hmmmm….???

      maybe when I hid KB4493132 it removed kb2952664

      • #344182 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        It doesn’t show up in the installed updates because it is no longer a stand-alone update, but an integral part of the Rollups. So you will see the Rollup installed but not KB2952664. The latter is no longer needed since the functionality is built into the Rollups.

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    • #349156 Reply

      EP
      AskWoody_MVP

      Microsoft has updated KB support article 4493132 on Thursday April 4 with this notice for those using Pro, Enterprise and Server editions of Windows 7 (or Server 2008 R2)

      —–

      Note for organizations

      This update is not applicable for devices in managed organizations. More specifically, this update will not install on devices running Professional and Enterprise editions of Windows 7 as well as Windows Server products. We recognize that organizations typically have an IT Pro managing system configuration and Windows 10 deployments. It is important for organizations to shift to Windows 10 ahead of January 2020 – organizations can go here to learn more.

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