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      • #343589 Reply
        PKCano
        Da Boss

        For those of you wondering how you will get the nag for Windows 7 EOL, Microsoft has released KB4493132 on March 19, 2019. @Cybertooth asks Windows Up
        [See the full post at: Microsoft issues KB4493132 Windows 7 SP1 support notification]

      • #343598 Reply
        T
        AskWoody Plus

        Thank you!

        Now I have a course of action – right click > hide update

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      • #343601 Reply
        Pepsiboy
        AskWoody Lounger

        Ditto the above. Just because I can not stand nagware ! ! ! BUT, i doubt that this will be the only nagware we get about this.

        Dave

      • #343602 Reply
        gborn
        AskWoody_MVP

        I got this night a user feedback, asking, what this update was for. The the user mentioned, that he had several install failures. He then hided this update in Win 7.

        Microsoft Windows Insider MVP, Microsoft Answers Community Moderator, Blogger, Book author

        https://www.borncity.com/win/

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      • #343608 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        “Hiding this patch is suggested for those of you who don’t want multiple reminders during the next year.”

        What’s the betting that, just like the Silverlight install, this update will transmogrify itself into another, now-unhidden, update at frequent intervals?

        </cynical>

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        • #343790 Reply
          SueW
          AskWoody Plus

          You mean something similar to our “friend” KB2952664???

          Win 7 SP1 Home Premium 64-bit; Office 2010; Group B; Former 'Tech Weenie'

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      • #343627 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Windows 7 Pro SP1..Just checked my WU and I’m not being offered this one yet. Maybe later. With M$ who knows.

        • #343706 Reply
          Charlie
          AskWoody Plus

          Same here, I don’t find it in with the Important Updates, but I do find it in with the Optional Updates which I rarely if ever download & install. If at some point it shows up in my Important Updates, I’ll just uncheck it or hide it.

          Win 7, Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz, Linux Mint 19.1, Klaatu barada nikto

      • #343629 Reply
        Cybertooth
        AskWoody Plus

        A Windows 7 user in the MS Answers forum for Spain reports Windows running extremely slowly, and being unable to install any updates or programs, after installing KB4493132. A clean boot didn’t help, and the only restore point that shows is the one created the latest time he/she tried (unsuccessfully) to update Windows.

        Two other viewers have the same question.

         

      • #343659 Reply
        Geo
        AskWoody Lounger

        This is why W10 is having problems.  They have everyone concentrating  on harassing W7 users and neglecting  W10; because they know if millions of W7 users stay with it after end of life they will have to keep updating it.

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      • #343669 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        ? says:

        thank you for the timely heads up. if someone finds this in the registry please post the location…

      • #343682 Reply
        abbodi86
        AskWoody_MVP

        Beta disable mitigations 🙂
        https://pastebin.com/DQYkZhsT

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        • #343691 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          ? says:

          thank you, abbodi86! you are the champ!

      • #343705 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Just did my weekly check on my HTPC running Win 7 (updates are always set for manual).  This one was right there and I hid it.  Running my monthly system image to make sure that I have a working backup.

      • #343715 Reply
        BobT
        AskWoody Lounger

        At least they’ve done it right this time.

        Of course since I have CONTROL OF MY UPDATING PROCESS ON MY OWN MACHINE, I was simply able to hide it, and move on with my life.

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      • #343712 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Translation:
        Thank you very much for the above information jola

      • #343729 Reply
        GoneToPlaid
        AskWoody Plus

        My home Win7 Group B computers aren’t showing this update. Has it been pulled?

        • #343785 Reply
          Cybertooth
          AskWoody Plus

          FWIW, my Windows 7 laptop is also showing this update. Both machines list it as Important but unchecked.

           

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        • #343871 Reply
          rick41
          AskWoody Plus

          Group A.  Just checked for updates — 11:30pm 3-20 — and I’m not being offered KB4493132 in either the Important or Optional tabs.  So I’m also wondering if it might have been pulled.

          Or, while I suppose this is unlikely, I was wondering if my machine is being excluded because its Win7 Pro 64-bit was a manufacturer-installed downgrade from Win 8.

      • #343738 Reply
        cogx
        AskWoody Lounger

        There’s one night and day difference between this notification update and the prior Windows 10 “upgrade” debacle: Windows 10 is no longer free.  Microsoft can certainly make these Windows 7 EOS notifications come up multiple times, if they want them to, but it’s not like before when you had to worry every second of every day on whether or not your PC would automatically switch to running Windows 10 against your will.

         

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        • #343743 Reply
          Microfix
          AskWoody MVP

          Very true, hiding it seems logical and will probably appear monthly akin to kb2952664 from now on.. 🙁

          | Win8.1 Pro x64 | Linux Hybrids x86/x64 | Win7 Pro x86/x64 Offline |
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      • #343751 Reply
        OscarCP
        AskWoody Plus

        Installing it would be like playing a slow, drawn-out, endless funeral march.

        Most people now using Windows 7 should be able to do various things after (or even before) January of next year, from putting Windows 7 in a VM and installing Linux as the main OS “on bare metal”, to switching to using Macs, to staying unpatched, at least for several months, while figuring out their best next move.

        So most people do not need this patch and are better off by hiding it. — or uninstalling it, if it gets, somehow, installed. Only the very forgetful should install it, perhaps?

        Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS + Linux (Mint)

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      • #343772 Reply
        Seff
        AskWoody Plus

        If this update is run frequently with the sole aim of persuading users to upgrade, it would be interesting to see the outcome of an action against Microsoft for harassment – which primarily in the case of the US could presumably be dealt with by way of a class action. Depending, of course, on whether the claim that it can be turned off proves to be any more reliable than various other previous statements by Microsoft.

        • #343783 Reply
          OscarCP
          AskWoody Plus

          “Class action.” Well Seff, I am not 100% sure, only 99.999% sure that is something that is forbidden expressly in the contract with MS that you explicitly or implicitly agreed to when activating Windows 7 in your PC. In which case “arbitration” with some company-friendly private adjudicator is your only legal way to sort out disagreements and grievances with MS. (Does anyone here know any different?)

          This is not unusual in contracts between users and providers, these days, and is also something strongly contested by pro-consumer organizations, but that has been going nowhere fast in these US of A for decades now.

          Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS + Linux (Mint)

          • #343812 Reply
            Seff
            AskWoody Plus

            I’m sure you’re right, however what will be particularly interesting in the case of this “reminder” from MS will be not so much the follow-up for those who choose to hide it, I’m sure they’ll continue to be offered it each month, but rather the experience of those who install it but then click on the “Do not notify me again” option. How will they fare, I wonder.

            • #343816 Reply
              OscarCP
              AskWoody Plus

              Please, Seff: stop rubbing your hands in anticipation!

              Also: If what you imagine might happen turns out to be the case, then those installing as Group A will have no choice but to install it every time they install the monthly rollups, unless MS, in a case of unprecedented user-friendliness, keeps the installation of the monthly S&Q rollups and of this patch well-separate from each other

              Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS + Linux (Mint)

              • #343831 Reply
                Seff
                AskWoody Plus

                Hehe Oscar, I don’t think I’m rubbing my hands in anticipation – but I do think that quite a few Windows 7 enthusiasts will have seen some of these developments this month as offering the beginnings of a glimmer of hope that all is not yet lost. Microsoft are finally acknowledging the reality of the present situation, with both users and developers, so it will be interesting to see how the coming months unfold between now and next year.

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        • #343901 Reply
          Alex5723
          AskWoody Plus

          Since no one has ever taken MICROSOFT to court over $Trillions of damages due to buggy updates, BSODs, crashed Windows PCs, crashed networks, forced Windows 10 upgrades… no one will take them to court over some Windows 7 nagging.
          The only time Microsoft lost in court in recent years was when customers demanded refund of Windows OS license after not agreeing to Windows EULA or formatting Windows OS on new PCs. Customers got $50 as refund.

          • #343975 Reply
            doriel
            AskWoody Lounger

            Hello. The first sentence in EULA for Win10 is: (I see it practically every day)

            IF YOU LIVE IN (OR IF YOUR PRINCIPAL PLACE OF BUSINESS IS IN) THE UNITED STATES, PLEASE READ THE BINDING ARBITRATION CLAUSE AND CLASS ACTION WAIVER IN SECTION 10. IT AFFECTS HOW DISPUTES ARE RESOLVED.

            Basically by installing Windows, you agreed, that you must go to court alone, if you live in USofA 🙂

            Sure.. the best way for protecting money, is to silence all with some problem caused by your SW. Right, Micro$oft? 🙂 Also, What are ads doing in operating system?? If someone in Linux did this, he’d be fired.. Out of the cannon.. into the sun.

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            Zdenek.

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      • #343862 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        ? says:

        beating the dead horse,
        https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/kb4493132-update-notifies-windows-7-users-of-end-of-support-date/

        pretty much a complete description of the inner springs. not to be found in the catalog, yet

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        • #343884 Reply
          samak
          AskWoody Plus

          Interesting that the article states:
          “The Notify1 task will execute the command %windir%\system32\sipnotify.exe -LogonOrUnlock when a user logs in or the computer is unlocked.
          The Notify2 task will execute the command %windir%\system32\sipnotify.exe -Daily as 12:00 PM every day.”

          So it sounds like you might get a few notifications in 1 day if you login, then you later unlock the computer and then again at 12:00 PM.
          This should be enough to drive anyone mad!

          W7 SP1 Home Premium 64-bit, Office 2010, Group B, non-techie

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          • #344135 Reply
            anonymous
            Guest

            ? says:

            hi samak,

            if you see # 344084 by Speccy in “Windows 10 Nag…” he opened the .CAB file (where did that come from? i could not get it in the catalog) and saw the scheduled roll outs. i guess if a person gets bit by this EOL reminder bug, then fixing it in the registry would be the best remedy? i hope “they,” don’t plant it in the monthly rollups or SO’s…

            • #344142 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              Did you see @abbodi86 ‘s script above?

              • #344146 Reply
                anonymous
                Guest

                ? says:

                yes, thank you! weird it is in HKCU rather than HKLM like XP’s EOL was…

                very nice that abbodi86 wrote and posted the registry RX on the fly for us and Speccy posted information on the contents of the .CAB file.

      • #343874 Reply

        The psychology of this puzzles me, but I’m not prone to subtlety…who, running Win 7 right now does NOT know about the January 2020? People under a rock or working in remote areas of the world? Tuva, Outer Mongolia, Jungles of Sumatra, Tierra Del Fuego, etc.

        Seriously, thanks to all the crew who help us keep abreast of this hocus-pocus!

        Oh, BTW, oddly enough, just checked WU and there’s no KB4493132 showing up anywhere!

        Weird.

        Win7 Pro SP1 64-bit ESU, Dell Latitude E6330, Intel CORE i5 "Ivy Bridge", Group "Patch List", Multiple Air-Gapped backup drives in different locations, "Don't auto-check for updates-Full Manual Mode." Linux Mint Greenhorn
        --
        "A committee is the only known form of life that has at least four legs and no brain."

        -Robert Heinlein

        • #343885 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          It might be surprising to see how many people don’t or wouldn’t know – they either take all updates or don’t update at all – they use their computer for what they want to do and don’t worry about all this stuff the way we might. It can be fun to engage in MS bashing, but it does start to pale after a while, we use their systems as we want, and look into alternatives. They did wreck it with Win 10 for a lot of people, not least of whom the majority of people on the planet who don’t have luxury internet connections – the time has come to change, use Windows offline, do whatever and adapt – hope this doesn’t come out as some kind of attack on you – don’t mean it that way – most people will just keep clicking on the nag and not worry about it – could be argued that they have a duty of care to put this nag on computers?

      • #343933 Reply
        geekdom
        AskWoody Plus

        I continue to keep GWX Control Panel on my computer. KB4493132 has not appeared in the update queue.

        G{ot backup} TestBeta
        offline▸ Win7Pro SP1 x64 Storage
        online▸ Win10Pro 1909.18363.959 x64 i5-9400 RAM8GB HDD Firefox79.0b7 Windows{Image/Defender/Firewall}
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      • #344008 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        I wonder if MS has built any intelligence into the notifications. Will the notification be different on old 32-bit hardware that can’t be updated to Win 10 (CPU instruction set – PAE, SSE2, NX)?

        While this is a non-issue for probably everyone here, a lot of XP era machines were upgraded to Win 7 32-bit (e.g. early P4). World-wide, I’d venture a guess that the number of these computers still in use is not statistically insignificant, especially in developing nations.

        – Carl –

        • #344013 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Win7 will be EOL on old computers as well as later ones.
          This is a notification of Win7 EOL, not another GWX campaign (we hope).

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      • #344136 Reply
        dgreen
        AskWoody Lounger

        reporting in regarding KB4493132 appearing when I manually did a windows update search.

        KB4493132 did appear as important but unchecked.  I hid it.
        However, what I did notice in my hidden updates…
        Comparing the snip it shot I took earlier this month (march 8th the first attachment)
        to what it shows today when I hid the kb4493132….(2nd attachment)
        KB2952664 was not there anymore (in my hidden updates) where it has been there.
        Anyone else?

        Dell Inspiron 660 (new hard drive installed and Windows 7 reloaded Nov. 2017)
        Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP 1 GROUP A
        Processor: Intel i3-3240 (ivy bridge 3rd generation)
        chipset Intel (R) 7 series/C216
        chipset family SATA AHCI Controller -1 E02
        NIC Realtek PCLE GBE Family Controller
        MSE antivirus
        Chrome browser

         

        hidden-updates-2019-3-8

         

        hidden-updates-2019-3-21

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        • #344145 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          The KB2952664 functionality was rolled into the Monthly Rollups in October last. Perhaps they changed the metadata to show it superceded by one of the later Rollups, since it is no longer needed as a separate update.

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      • #344154 Reply
        dgreen
        AskWoody Lounger

        The KB2952664 functionality was rolled into the Monthly Rollups in October last. Perhaps they changed the metadata to show it superceded by one of the later Rollups, since it is no longer needed as a separate update.

        PKCano It does not show up in my installed updates either!?
        It has always been in my hidden updates.
        The only updates I’ve been doing since March 8 (which I did the Feb. rollup then and took the snip it after that which it shows up)
        are Microsoft Security Essentials Definitions and I don’t do that through Windows Update.
        hmmmm….???

        maybe when I hid KB4493132 it removed kb2952664

        • #344182 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          It doesn’t show up in the installed updates because it is no longer a stand-alone update, but an integral part of the Rollups. So you will see the Rollup installed but not KB2952664. The latter is no longer needed since the functionality is built into the Rollups.

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      • #349156 Reply
        EP
        AskWoody_MVP

        Microsoft has updated KB support article 4493132 on Thursday April 4 with this notice for those using Pro, Enterprise and Server editions of Windows 7 (or Server 2008 R2)

        —–

        Note for organizations

        This update is not applicable for devices in managed organizations. More specifically, this update will not install on devices running Professional and Enterprise editions of Windows 7 as well as Windows Server products. We recognize that organizations typically have an IT Pro managing system configuration and Windows 10 deployments. It is important for organizations to shift to Windows 10 ahead of January 2020 – organizations can go here to learn more.

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      • #1848916 Reply
        WSNTLS
        AskWoody Plus

        Has anyone gone into the Registry files to see where those entries are located? Found maybe seven (7) entries for Sipnotify plus maybe four (4) entries where the EXE files are located.

        WSNTLS ‘d’ “LoneWanderer”

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      • #1848917 Reply
        WSNTLS
        AskWoody Plus

        Has anyone gone into the Registry files to see where those entries are located? Found maybe seven (7) entries for Sipnotify plus maybe four (4) entries where the EXE files are located.

        WSNTLS ‘d’ “LoneWanderer”

        This is what was found within the REGISTRY files:

        HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\MuiCache\C:\Windows\System32\sipnotify.exe

        Type Data
        REG_SZ Sipnotify

        HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\MuiCache\C:\Windows\System32\sipnotify.exe

        Type Data
        REG_SZ Sipnotify

        HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SipNotify\LastShown

        Type Data Base
        REG_QWORD 1d5269ee20256b0 (Hexadecimal)

        HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-4267585356-2186095281-715594798-1000\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\MuiCache\C:\Windows\System32\sipnotify.exe

        Type Data
        REG_SZ Sipnotify

        HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-4267585356-2186095281-715594798-1000\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SipNotify\\LastShown

        Type Data Base
        REG_QWORD 1d5269ee20256b0 (Hexadecimal)

        HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-4267585356-2186095281-715594798-1000_Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\MuiCache\C:\Windows\System32\sipnotify.exe

        Type Data
        REG_SZ Sipnotify

        Work in the Registry all of the time . . .

        WSNTLS ‘d’ “LoneWanderer”

        "Infinite CREATOR" cast "Loving Light" upon thee
        TIA, CU L8R, 'd' "LoneWanderer"
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