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     CADesertRat 3 weeks, 3 days ago.

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    • #1719687 Reply

      PKCano
      Da Boss

      On Tuesday, May 21, Microsoft released Cumulative updates for Windows 10 v1803 and v1809. v 1803 KB 4499183 Build 17134.799 v1809 KB 4497934 Build 177
      [See the full post at: Microsoft issues new cumulative updates for Windows 10 1803 and 1809]

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    • #1719719 Reply

      Tex265
      AskWoody Plus

      Per the topic discussion below, how did this same update work out for ver 1903?

      Win10’s new “Download and install now” option — is it for version changes only, or will we get it for cumulative updates?

      For 1803 and 1809 how will this Cumulative Update come down the Windows Updater?  If it is Non-Security and you don’t press the Check for Updates button, will it come down?  Or do we wait until next month’s update? Or obtain from the Windows Catalog?

      Windows 10 Pro x64 v1803 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64
      • #1719721 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        The MS pages for KB4499183 and KB4497934 say:

        Install this update

        To download and install this update, go to Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update and select Check for updates.

        To get the standalone package for this update, go to the Microsoft Update Catalog website.

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    • #1719720 Reply

      anonymous

      Are these going to be from the catalog only or available through Windows Update also ?

      I just ran wushowhide and they’re not coming up for me. Also, is this going to be something we want or just another Microsoft trick to install something we don’t need ?

      • #1719759 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        Check to be sure all you deferrals are set to 0 and you have SAC (Targeted) instead of SAC. Also no Metered Connections or update blocking software.

        You may have to wait a while if MS is throttling the update.

      • #1719939 Reply

        Tex265
        AskWoody Plus

        Anonymous:

        Read the thread in my referenced link.
        This could be a very good, major improvement IF it works as advertised.
        We need more feedback on how it ended up within version 1903 as this is what MS is implementing into versions 1803 and 1809.

        Windows 10 Pro x64 v1803 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64
      • #1719962 Reply

        Susan Bradley
        AskWoody MVP

        If it’s in these, it will be in the main releases in June.

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady

    • #1719927 Reply

      Tex265
      AskWoody Plus

      PK thanks, but how about some context regarding how this New Update Feature ultimately worked out on ver 1903 so we know whether this update is ready for prime time or not.  Last I read in the thread below we (Woody) didnt even know if Microsoft delivered to 1903 what was promised.

      Per the topic discussion below, how did this same update work out for ver 1903?

      https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/win10s-new-download-and-install-now-option-is-it-for-version-changes-only-or-will-we-get-it-for-cumulative-updates/#post-1352398

      Also, did MS take any of our Windows 10 Pro, tried and true update/defer methods away? Or remove any relied upon Group Policy selections? Does wushowhide still work?

      Windows 10 Pro x64 v1803 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64
    • #1720318 Reply

      zero2dash
      AskWoody Lounger

      Leave it to MS to further muddy up the waters by trying to “help”.
      I have more questions now than I did before the day started.
      I still wonder if 1803 will be upgraded to 1903 and skipping 1809 like Gregg Kaizer states.
      I wonder what this means for CB/CBB/SAC(T)/SAC terminology and the settings implied.
      What does this do for deferrals?

      Again, more questions than there were answers to this morning.
      One step closer to throwing my hands up and wiping everything in favor of Ubuntu at home.
      For its share of problems, Linux at least doesn’t muck up updates, typically. Or user choice.

      • #1721197 Reply

        warrenrumak
        AskWoody Plus

        For in-place upgrades, Windows 10 has always supported skipping up to two Feature Updates.  For example, if you’re running 1709 today, you can skip 1803 and 1809 and go right to 1903.

        That said…. it won’t surprise me if they expand that window to three Feature Updates, given that Microsoft expanded the support window from 18 months to 30 months for some versions of Windows 10.   Windows 10 1709 is supported until April 2020, and presumably there will be at least one more Feature Update before that date…..

         

      • #1721241 Reply

        b
        AskWoody Plus

        I wonder what this means for CB/CBB/SAC(T)/SAC terminology and the settings implied.

        Before upgrade to 1903, nothing changes.

        After upgrade to 1903, none of those exist; because there’s no more (Targeted).

        What does this do for deferrals?

        No changes.

        Knuckle dragger Cannon fodder Chump Daft glutton Idiot Crazy/Ignorant Toxic drinker Blockhead Unwashed mass Seeker/Sucker "Ancient/Obsolete" (Group ASAP) Win10 v.1903

    • #1720455 Reply

      Barry
      AskWoody Plus

      I installed the update and i don’t see any obvious changes in the update settings.

      Don’t know if you will actually see anything until a feature update is available.

      I did check for updates after i installed the cumulative update and it did not offer me 1903.

       

      Barry (Seeker)
      Windows 10 Home V 1903

      • #1720474 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        v1903 rollout is probably being throttled by Microsoft, and may not show up for you right away, even if you are a Seeker.

        • #1720500 Reply

          Barry
          AskWoody Plus

          Yep i will make a new system image in the morning and download it from the update page.

          I will let everyone know how it goes but i am not anticipating any problems.

           

          Barry (Seeker)
          Windows 10 Home V 1903

    • #1720512 Reply

      cyberSAR
      AskWoody Plus

      I did the updates on 3 machines. 2 Pro and 1 home. After the updates and reboot then clicking check for updates nothing looks different on the Pro machines but the home machine offered an option to update to 1903 under the check for updates button.

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      • #1720524 Reply

        Barry
        AskWoody Plus

        So it worked like Microsoft said it would? It offered you the update but did not force you to install it?

        Barry (Seeker)
        Windows 10 Home V 1903

        • #1720868 Reply

          cyberSAR
          AskWoody Plus

          Yes, on the home machine. It didn’t offer it on the Pro machines even though they were set to get the latest updates.

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    • #1720827 Reply

      CADesertRat
      AskWoody Plus

      Since Win 10 Pro has Group Policy to defer Feature updates, I “Assume” this change is for Win 10 Home, is that correct???? It may change the interface (settings>WU>Advanced) in Win 10 Pro but the Group Policy’s should be the same wouldn’t they??

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      4 Win 10 Pro currently 1809 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1720874 Reply

      CraigS26
      AskWoody Plus

      Being “1809 Home” — & — with Macrium Images just made — I Updated Kb4497934 – nets 17763.529.

      I presume the 1903 Timing Offers will appear when available to what should be a “Ready” machine.

      W10 1903-18362.175 Home / Hm-Stdnt Ofce '16 C2R / i5-8400/ 12 GB / 256 SSD + 1 TB HDD / InSpectre = GREEN

    • #1721625 Reply

      b
      AskWoody Plus

      These Cumulative Updates are Previews. You don’t need to install them.

      Unless you want the control over “forced updates” that this site has campaigned for over the last four years.

      Knuckle dragger Cannon fodder Chump Daft glutton Idiot Crazy/Ignorant Toxic drinker Blockhead Unwashed mass Seeker/Sucker "Ancient/Obsolete" (Group ASAP) Win10 v.1903

    • #1726263 Reply

      Tex265
      AskWoody Plus

      Alex 5723 wrote:

      https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/microsoft-issues-new-cumulative-updates-for-windows-10-1803-and-1809/#post-1723979

      The above shows the new Feature Update with “Download and install now” link

      Barry wrote:

      https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/patch-lady-1903-is-now-officially-released/#post-1726025

      The above shows the new ability to Pause Updates (Home and Pro?)

      Tex265 wrote:

      https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/patch-lady-1903-is-now-officially-released/#post-1726079

      Has anyone installing this 1803 or 1809 update seen BOTH of the above new Windows Updater screen entries together?

      Has any of the previous Windows Pro Windows Update Advanced options or Group Policy options been removed?

       

      Windows 10 Pro x64 v1803 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64
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      • #1742311 Reply

        CADesertRat
        AskWoody Plus

        Good question. I asked earlier and never got any reply’s.

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
        4 Win 10 Pro currently 1809 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1731130 Reply

      CraigS26
      AskWoody Plus

      Having inst’d the 5/21 Kb4497934 Update I clk’d – Check for Updates – & did NOT see any 1903 mention, particularly, “I’m here and Clk when ready” as the Update should do. I may have one of the issues that nets a 1903 Block for me.

      W10 1903-18362.175 Home / Hm-Stdnt Ofce '16 C2R / i5-8400/ 12 GB / 256 SSD + 1 TB HDD / InSpectre = GREEN

    • #1741673 Reply

      abbodi86
      AskWoody_MVP

      v1607 also got C-Week update
      May 23, 2019 – KB4499177 (OS Build 14393.2999)

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