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      Wbellrose64
      AskWoody Lounger

      So we are having some problems with Microsoft admitting that having our Data in AP vs US is slowing down our Data. Back ground: Parent company is in India, they got the O365 tenant. We were told to join, but have seen slowness in the apps and email due to being in new tenant. We started to do traces and other things and showed how bad the latency was. Using Microsoft Documents we showed our latency was higher then recommended. Which Microsoft has since taken down the doc and changed to not having any recommendations in it. We actually created a small tenant in US and showed side by side with video to show that there is a noticeably slower talking minutes not just seconds.  but after showing Data after Data we can’t get Microsoft to even say that it would help our user experience to move the data to a local tenant. So looking for suggestion on how to get Microsoft to just say that we would be better off in a local tenant, so our parent company will let us at least do multi-Geo, if not separate tenant.  Any suggestion?

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      MrJimPhelps
      AskWoody_MVP

      You won’t be able to get Microsoft to suggest storing O365 data locally as opposed to in their cloud – they have invested too much in cloud technologies to think that you will be able to convince them to start suggesting that people store their documents locally.

      But you are free to save all of your O365 documents and spreadsheets locally, either on your local network or on your hard drive.

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      • #1818690 Reply

        mn–
        AskWoody Lounger

        Might have meant Office 365 datacenter location… you know, the part where you can have things stored in US, or Canada, or Brazil, UK, France, Australia, India, Japan, …

        Also the multi-geo thing as described by https://comparex.com/en/blog/all-articles/2018/05/23/office-365-multi-geo-tenant-now-available (yeah, India was at least at the time a special case).

        But really, Office 365 isn’t by any measure fast even when you’re using a local-region datacenter and Microsoft is unlikely to commit to any sort of performance figures either way… so, if you really need performance you may need to do a hybrid deployment of some sort, but don’t expect Microsoft to say anything directly unless you’re a big global name. A Microsoft-certified consultancy probably would say something or other if you ask for a performance consultation… for a fee.

    • #1835576 Reply

      Wbellrose64
      AskWoody Lounger

      Thank you for the post. We were still looking to keep the Data with Microsoft. Right now our Data resides in AP and would like to move it at least inside the US. One interesting fact is we have seen our Data being stored at different sites in AP but have also found that it moved to other areas outside the three AP DC into the middle east two times. once in Dubai. that was for a couple of days. So I guess you never know where your data actually is at.  We have seen up to 3 second (not mil) delay versus our local test. I have been staying away from hybrid but if we can’t move the data to get at least reasonable speed I am guessing that will have to be the next option.

      • #1836002 Reply

        NetDef
        AskWoody_MVP

        In theory tenancy is based on the starting account holders geo location. (For O365 and Azure)

        https://products.office.com/en-us/where-is-your-data-located?geo=UnitedStates#UnitedStates

        I have not been able to find a reliable way to move tenancy if needed.  In the one case I have run into we ended up going hybrid with local server hosting in house.

        From there we used DirectAccess and DFS in a hub and spoke topology.

        It’s clumsy as heck, but it’s MUCH faster for the offices outside the primary geo-area.

         

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        • #1838161 Reply

          mn–
          AskWoody Lounger

          In theory tenancy is based on the starting account holders geo location. (For O365 and Azure)

          Right. In theory. Multinationals are always a bit of a problem with these and even “local” cloud sites may change physical location to a network segment where your connectivity is worse.

          The only way to get predictable performance is to use a local server, same thing if you need faster than using the current tenant is. The question then becomes, how much is enough and at what price…?

          Note, a “local” server for Office 365 hybrid purposes might actually be in a local provider’s server room or some such, or country-specific AWS or whatever. Optimization will very much depend on specifics.

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