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    This topic contains 27 replies, has 12 voices, and was last updated by  rc primak 3 days, 16 hours ago.

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    • #1908259 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      Sometime in the past few hours, the KB articles for every August Windows patch has been updated with this “Known issue” After installing this update,
      [See the full post at: Microsoft quietly updates all of this month’s Windows patches warning about conflicts with Visual Basic 6, VBA and VBScript]

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    • #1908264 Reply

      anonymous

      Probably a result of VBScript being disabled fully now, as of that 2nd July IE patch, the change likely being included in all August bundled patches now.

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      • #1908338 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        I can see how that would disrupt VBScript in IE. But the others?

    • #1908289 Reply

      anonymous

      Warning to healthcare: August 13th patches are causing issues with Epic’s Hyperspace. See https://userweb.epic.com/Thread/89877/Microsofts-August-13th-Patches-Installed-in-Epics-Target-Pla/

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      • #1908336 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        I’m not an Epic registered user – but my hospital network and med professionals all use Epic.

        I bet Epic relies on VB.

        I can’t get into the site. Can you post the relevant portions here?

    • #1908306 Reply

      PKCano
      Da Boss

      Microsoft has disabled VBScript in Internet Explorer beginning with the Aug 13th updates.

      Also see @Susan-Bradley ‘s Post on disabling VBScript (and the comments in the Lounge).

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    • #1908339 Reply

      GoneToPlaid
      AskWoody Plus

      My VB5 scripts which I wrote for image processing still work, perhaps because they have no macros and because they simply call on functions within the image processing program.

    • #1908348 Reply

      gborn
      AskWoody_MVP

      The bug seems nothing related to the VBScript changes in IE 11 for Win 7 up to Win 8.1 introduced on August 13, 2019, as I mentioned here – because this has been implemented for Win 10 in July.

      From what I got as feedback to my German blog post August 2019 Updates: Ärger mit VB6, VBA und VBScript, it seems to be related to array handling (see also my English blog post).

      I got feedback from Australia, where over 600 customers of a person are affected. A German blog reader who send the tip says his XenApps are affected.

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      • #1908351 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        Good info.

        How in the world did this get through Microsoft testing — for ALL versions of Windows?

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    • #1908377 Reply

      anonymous

      Only such code which tries to use an empty array is affected.

      http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?877733-Windows-August-2019-Update-break-VB-arrays

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    • #1908378 Reply

      anonymous

      First reboot after patching and I got a vbscriot error related to wacom.exe. I installed the latest wacom driver and rebooted. No error that time. Just confirming something is definitely not right.

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      • #1908401 Reply

        anonymous

        What Driver version and did you install all the Wacom bloatware as well. I have a Bamboo Tablet, Driver 5.3.5-3,  and a few Facebook tablet plugins as well, 32 and 64 bit variants.

        I thought that I had elected to only Install the Base Bamboo Tablet drivers without any of the bloat and still that Social networking/FB plugins are there installed as well for FB interoperability that I do not need or want.

        What Wacom Tablet are you using and it’s good to know for fixing the problem by installing the latest driver but I do not want any of the bloatware that ships with Wacom’s products and I only need that tablet for Blender 3D, Gimp, and Krita, usage mostly.

    • #1908385 Reply

      anonymous

      “all of this month’s Windows patches”

      But I’m using Norton Security Suite on one of my laptops so its a longer wait for me and it’s still DEFCON 2 anyways. I’ll also be waiting for more Telemetry checking going forward for MS and their Security Only KB’s needing that extra vetting.

      That AUG 2019 dated SHA-2 servicing stack KB, does that replace the earlier KB of the same KB-numbering and is it required to be able to install any SHA-2 signed KBs going forward. I remember installing an earlier variant a few months back but I’ll have to wait for Symantec/Norton fixes before I can patch that one laptop that’s using Norton Security Suite.

      More issues and Plenty of The Sky Is Falling apoplexy from some Press Outlets concerning what is just the usual for MS’s Security Updates. The Borking-Force is strong with this month’s Security Patches from the folks in Redmond.

      • #1908391 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        The version 2 SAH-2 patch does not replace the version 1, according to the MS pages for the version 2.

    • #1908415 Reply

      rdgwalker
      AskWoody Plus

      Not sure if this is related to VB, but this is software (fund raising and accounting for nonprofits and schools has been affected by August patches…
      Dear Customer,

      On Tuesday, August 13, Microsoft released an update for Windows including but not limited to KB4512506, KB890830, KB4474419, KB4512501, KB4512486. Following this release, we are aware of an issue impacting Raiser’s Edge®, Financial Edge®, and Education Edge™ on-premise and self-hosted customers that have installed this Microsoft update. Customers may experience the inability to log in to one or all of these solutions.

      We are working with Microsoft to quickly address the issue and get impacted customers back to the state in which they’ll be able to apply security updates promptly. We understand that the update included security patching, which may provide important protection for your environment. We will provide an update when we have more information.
       

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      • This reply was modified 1 week ago by  rdgwalker.
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    • #1908426 Reply

      Alex5723
      AskWoody Plus

      Sometime in the past few hours, the KB articles for every August Windows patch has been updated with this “Known issue” After installing this update,
      [See the full post at: Microsoft quietly updates all of this month’s Windows patches warning about conflicts with Visual Basic 6, VBA and VBScript]

      Who still runs year 2000 VB6 ?Microsoft shouldn’t fix this.

      Mainstream Support for Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0 ended on March 31, 2005
      Visual Basic 6.0 extended support ended in March 2008.

      • This reply was modified 1 week ago by  Alex5723.
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    • #1908444 Reply

      geekdom
      AskWoody Plus

      KB articles may have been updated, but when will patches be updated?

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      • This reply was modified 1 week ago by  geekdom.
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    • #1908506 Reply

      anonymous

      Regarding Visual Basic 6 support people are confusing the support for the programming environment (which has ended) and the support of the runtime libraries  needed to run all the old programs made with VB6. Current statement is that MS will support the runtime for at least as long as Windows 10 and Server 2019. It is the runtime that they have now broken with the latest patch.

      https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/visualstudio/visual-basic-6/visual-basic-6-support-policy

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      • #1908520 Reply

        anonymous

        I wonder what percentage of runtime libraries on MS’s OSs are legacy and that’s coming from someone with a Laptop that has its interactive User Manual dependent on Silverlight.

        Once again this whole thing boils down to that MS decision to gut its in house QA/QC and foist that process onto its end users.

        It sure is a BETA life for all of MS’s OS end users instead of a better life, and things are going to get worse once Windows 10 is the only option and less control over keeping those Borked KBs from KO-ing more systems.

        All user manuals should be PDF or some other document format with supported libraries that’s sure to not become legacy as quickly as some of MS’s Soup Du Jour offerings are.

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      • #1908800 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        I just removed a post that links these VB problems with H-1B visas.

        Aside from the fact that it’s preposterous, political discussions and personal diatribes have no place here.

        I work with people in the US with H-1B visas every day. Some of my friends have H-1B visas. Others wish they could get one.

        If you use the internet, or Windows, you rely on them. Nuff said.

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    • #1908523 Reply

      EP
      AskWoody_MVP

      maybe I’m glad I haven’t installed any of the Windows security patches for Aug. 2019
      let’s see if there will be “C” patches next week on Tue. 8/20 or later

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    • #1908577 Reply

      warrenrumak
      AskWoody Plus

      Sometime in the past few hours, the KB articles for every August Windows patch has been updated with this “Known issue” After installing this update,
      [See the full post at: Microsoft quietly updates all of this month’s Windows patches warning about conflicts with Visual Basic 6, VBA and VBScript]

      Who still runs year 2000 VB6 ?Microsoft shouldn’t fix this.

      Mainstream Support for Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0 ended on March 31, 2005
      Visual Basic 6.0 extended support ended in March 2008.

      • This reply was modified 1 week ago by  Alex5723.

      They shouldn’t break it, either.  There’s no reason to do that.

    • #1908657 Reply

      anonymous

      Ivanti Workspace Control (formerly RES Workspace Manager / PowerFuse) seems to have been hit by this issue. They have released a one-off patch and will release a full patch next week.

      https://forums.ivanti.com/s/article/clsPFDALerrors-connecting-console-to-SQL-Datastore-after-installation-of-Windows-Cumulative-Updates

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    • #1908773 Reply

      miladytn
      AskWoody Lounger

      Also hit our Juris program.

      https://lexisnexis.custhelp.com/app/answers/answer_view/a_id/1101458

       

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      • #1908797 Reply

        anonymous

        +1 for Juris hit, causing the application to crash/fault.

         

    • #1908811 Reply

      GoneToPlaid
      AskWoody Plus

      Heads up: It is being reported that the latest Win10 updates are failing to install for some users, and if installed, are causing random restarts for some users. See:

      https://www.windowscentral.com/latest-windows-10-update-failing-install-and-causing-random-restarts-some-users

       

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      • #1908818 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        I’m seeing an uncharacteristically large number of reports of failed installs and rollbacks, too.

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    • #1912319 Reply

      rc primak
      AskWoody_MVP

      Well, we have a couple or three weeks for all of this to sort out. Until then, it’s good to have the MS DEFCON System. MS DEFCON-2 or even 1 seems very appropriate about now.

      -- rc primak

    Please follow the -Lounge Rules- no personal attacks, no swearing, and politics/religion are relegated to the Rants forum.

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