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      • #185364 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        KB 4093117 brings Win10 1703 up to build 15063.1058, many miscellaneous fixes, no known issues. KB 4093120 brings Win10 1607 to build 14393.2214, a si[See the full post at: Microsoft releases major update to Win10 1703, and the usual Monthly Previews for Win7 and 8.1]

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      • #185376 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Just checking out the April 17th update to KB4099950 …

        “Important

        This update must be installed before you install KB4088875 or KB4088878.
        If you have previously installed KB4099950 prior to April 17, 2018 please uninstall the older version of KB4099950 and reinstall to assure you have the most recent version.”

        They have got to be kidding.

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        • #185623 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          Important When installing both the servicing stack update (SSU) (KB4099989) and the latest cumulative update  (LCU) from the Microsoft Update Catalog, install the SSU before installing the LCU.

          Obviously, folks letting Windows Automatic Update do its job are not affected. And not touching anything won’t install the current updates either since those updates are still in preview mode and will be shipped with the next Patch Tuesday updates.

      • #185381 Reply
        ashfan212
        AskWoody Lounger

        Group A, Windows 7-x64 Home Premium. As I had installed both original versions of KB4088875 in March and KB4093118 in April, KB4099950 was never installed and is not included in the list of installed updates on my computer. It sounds as though Woody is stating that the latest version of KB4099950 will install automatically when installing the May cumulative quality rollup next month. It appears that there is no need to manually install KB4099950 as a stand-alone update from the catalog prior to installing the May rollup.

      • #185382 Reply
        MrBrian
        AskWoody_MVP

        From KB4093113: “Addresses a stop error that occurred when the previous month’s update was applied to 32-bit (x86) computers with Physical Address Extension (PAE) mode disabled.” If this is correct, then apparently articles KB4088875 and KB4088878 are incorrect that this issue was fixed in KB4093118 and KB4093108.

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        • #185385 Reply
          geekdom
          AskWoody Plus

          KB4093113: And why is the size 219 MB? What else is stuffed into that update?

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        • #185469 Reply
          abbodi86
          AskWoody_MVP

          No, the articles are correct, the same fix is in both April’s rollups
          i guess they ran out of something extra to list in the page 🙂

          KB4093113 literally has nothing new over KB4093118 except two things:
          – Timezones update (details in KB4093753)
          – updated Windows Update Agent components

          i wonder why they didn’t document what fixed/improved in WUA (all yesterday’s preview rollups have it Win 7 & 8.1)

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      • #185384 Reply
        MrBrian
        AskWoody_MVP

        The digital signatures for both of the files for the “2018-04 Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB4099950)” update at https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=4099950 are dated March 29, 2018, and therefore are likely unchanged.

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        • #185389 Reply
          ashfan212
          AskWoody Lounger

          @mrbrian, would it be your expectation that the latest version of KB4099950 will soon be offered automatically as a checked important update via WU, whereas the March version was initially marked as optional or recommended yet unchecked? Any idea whether the new version is bundled within the new preview rollup KB4093113? I downloaded the .CSV contents file of KB4093113, yet the file was too big to open on my old phone!

           

          • #185400 Reply
            MrBrian
            AskWoody_MVP

            @mrbrian, would it be your expectation that the latest version of KB4099950 will soon be offered automatically as a checked important update via WU, whereas the March version was initially marked as optional or recommended yet unchecked?”

            I don’t have any info on this. I don’t know of any reason for a change in status though.

            “Any idea whether the new version is bundled within the new preview rollup KB4093113? I downloaded the .CSV contents file of KB4093113, yet the file was too big to open on my old phone!”

            According to Windows Update MiniTool, the update bundled with KB4093113 on Windows 7 x64 is

            http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/updt/2018/04/pciclearstalecache_7b200dd742b42a13a63427d254300b5e640b1f9b.exe

            One cannot determine which updates (if any) are bundled with a given update by looking at a file contents list, because bundled updates are downloaded separately by Windows Update.

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        • #185396 Reply
          MrBrian
          AskWoody_MVP

          Today’s changes for KB4099950 probably involve changing its metadata to fix the issue of KB4099950 not working properly when installed via Windows Update (mentioned here by abbodi86). I just tried to test this but KB4099950 was not listed in Windows Update. I expect KB4099950 will be available in Windows Update again within the next day or two though.

          The catalog versions of KB4099950 were probably unchanged.

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      • #185387 Reply
        alpha128
        AskWoody Lounger

        So those of us who installed KB4099950 before March Rollup KB4088875, but prior to April 17, 2018, have to uninstall the older version of KB4099950 and reinstall to be sure we have the most recent version?

        Are we supposed to do that before or after installing April Rollup KB4093118?

        Microsoft remind me of this Kirk quote from Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (1991):  “Please let me know if there’s some other way we can screw up tonight.”

        • #185425 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          OK, Win7 Pro SP1 x64 on Zbook Workstation, Group B.
          Had installed kb4099950 on 4/06 along with a bunch of other stuff, but held off kb4088878 until 4/10. Based on the latest instructions from M$, uninstalled kb4099950 and then reinstalled it from the catalog. Also downloaded the pciclearstalecashe……exe which came with it, and ran it once.

          Then did a full shutdown and restart. Still have my networking. WHEW!!! Assume I’m good to go?
          Of course, kb4099950 was “supposed” to be installed prior to kb4088878. Does this sequence not matter in this case? Any MVP care to weigh in as this is well beyond MY pay grade! 🙂

      • #185388 Reply
        dononline
        AskWoody Plus

        Another week, another Cumulative Update (WIN 10, 1607). If the current cadence holds, just one more to go next week … but wait, MS said April 10 was absolutely, positively, the drop-dead end of 1607 patching! LOL Well, maybe April 30? I’m rather looking forward to getting on without having to worry about going through this train wreck for a few months until I see how 1803 shakes out — which looks like another train wreck to me, so far. And all for what? Timeline. Cortana. Near Share. Fonts in Store. Wow! Takes your breath away, doesn’t it? /s, of course. Geeerrr …

        • #185539 Reply
          EP
          AskWoody_MVP

          @dononline: actually the KB4093120 update CAN be installed onto a v1607 release of Win10 home & pro as I have recently tested the full ms catalog version of KB4093120 on a Win10 v1607 Pro machine. Installation of KB4093120 is still allowed on all editions of Win10 v1607 but that will change with the May 2018 updates for 1607 where they will only install on education & enterprise editions.

          also support for 1607 continues with the education & enterprise editions for another 6 months AND 1607 LTSB/LTSC is supported until 2026.

          @woody: you stated that there were no issues with the KB4093120 update. well, there IS one known issue recently listed for KB4093120:
          -After installing the March 13, 2018 or later Cumulative Update for Windows 10 version 1607, only the latest Windows 10 feature update is returned as applicable. This prevents the deployment of previously released feature updates using ConfigMgr (current branch) and Windows 10 servicing plans.

          “Workaround: Decline all feature updates on the WSUS Server(s) except for the one that you want to deploy using ConfigMgr. Run another software update scan cycle from the ConfigMgr control panel (or wait until the client devices perform their next scan).

          Microsoft is working on a resolution and will provide an update in an upcoming release.”

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      • #185404 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        has buggy march update for windows 7 still not been fixed? i’m still waiting for clean security only update without having to fear blue screen or other disasters after applying march updates.

      • #185415 Reply
        WildBill
        AskWoody Plus

        Group A, Windows 8.1 Home for x64. I never install Previews; still, I haven’t seen KB4093121… yet. BTW, I had KB4088882 (2018-03 Preview), but Microsoft pulled it. Fortunately, it’s been incorporated into KB4093114 (2018-04 Security Monthly Quality Rollup).

        Windows 8.1, 64-bit, back in Group A... & leaning toward Windows 10 V2004. As long as it's a Lot Less Buggy!
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        • #185638 Reply
          WildBill
          AskWoody Plus

          Group A, Windows 8.1 Home for x64. I never install Previews; still, I haven’t seen KB4093121… yet.

          As of late today, 04/18/18, it’s finally there. It was probably there earlier, but I just checked now. It can stay there, even when Woody goes to MS-DEFCON 3 or higher.

          Windows 8.1, 64-bit, back in Group A... & leaning toward Windows 10 V2004. As long as it's a Lot Less Buggy!
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      • #185421 Reply
        twbartender
        AskWoody Plus

        According to the support page for KB4099950 which was updated today 4/17/18, “If you have previously installed KB4099950 prior to April 17, 2018 please uninstall the older version of KB4099950 and reinstall to assure you have the most recent version.”

        The problem is when you click on the download tab in the catalog, there are 2 separate files being offered for download. One is an .exe file and the other is .msu file.

        1. pciclearstalecache_1c944f48bfb21d88a2054683abcd02327ecf6b37.exe

        2. windows6.1-kb4099950-x64_245d5aaf7d50587297825f9176be166c47ad10f7.msu

        Are both of these files required to be installed in order for KB4099950 to function properly?

        It would be nice of Microsoft if they would give a little more information on how to apply this new update.

        • #185543 Reply
          EP
          AskWoody_MVP

          only the pciclearstalecache*.exe files were updated while the actual KB4099950 patches were not.

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      • #185429 Reply
        SteveTree
        AskWoody Lounger

        has buggy march update for windows 7 still not been fixed? i’m still waiting for clean security only update without having to fear blue screen or other disasters after applying march updates.

        Win 7 Pro 64 fully patched.

        I shut my eyes, crossed fingers and toes and went ahead with it the day before Patch Tuesday. So far, no cursing necessary. I did ensure KB4100480 was installed before  KB4088875,

        Group A (but Telemetry disabled Tasks and Registry)
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        • #185465 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          Win 7 Pro 64 fully patched.

          I shut my eyes, crossed fingers and toes and went ahead with it the day before Patch Tuesday. So far, no cursing necessary. I did ensure KB4100480 was installed before  KB4088875,

          now i’m even more confusted, i read here in another topic about this sequence:

              Follow this order
          1. kb4099950
          2. kb4088878
          2.a. kb4099467
          reboot
          3. kb4100480
          4. kb4096040
          reboot
          office 2010, msrt, …
          reboot

          following this order kb4100480 would be installed after kb4088878…

          • #185593 Reply
            OscarCP
            AskWoody Plus

            Anonymous:

            I did not installed in that order, for reasons to tedious to go into here.
            Instead, I did it in the following order (with reboots only when a window popped out asking for them, and creating restore points before kb4096040 and after Security Only, which happened automatically before installing the patches for Office, etc.)
            Done this way, because it was OK to do it according to what MrBrian wrote back, when I asked:

            Restore point.
            1. kb4096040
            2. kb4099950
            3. kb4100480
            4. kb4088878
            Automatic restore point.
            office 2010, msrt.

            I have not installed kb4099467, neither intend to. It seems to have caused some problems to others — and I am doing fine without it.
            Hope this helps you and others in Group B with similar concerns about the March patches for Windows 7.

            Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS + Linux (Mint)

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            • #185655 Reply
              anonymous
              Guest

              In my case, it was MrBrian too who wrote that the order is okay, so I’m still very confused…
              kb4099467 was optional also, in my case…

      • #185435 Reply
        columbia2011
        AskWoody Plus

        @rwbartender, pciclearstalecache_1c944f48bfb21d88a2054683abcd02327ecf6b37.exe only creates PCIClearStaleCache.txt in folder: Windows\Logs\. Nothing else. Also the same does KB4099950. So if you once install from WU or catalog KB4099950, no more additional *.exe

      • #185438 Reply
        ozbadcat
        AskWoody Plus

        Just checking out the April 17th update to KB4099950 … “Important This update must be installed before you install KB4088875 or KB4088878. If you have previously installed KB4099950 prior to April 17, 2018 please uninstall the older version of KB4099950 and reinstall to assure you have the most recent version.” They have got to be kidding.

        ……. but as KB4099950 has to be installed BEFORE KB40B88878 – does that mean we need to UNinstall BOTH – so that they can be REinstalled in the correct order ?????

        ( not forgetting KB4099467 which was bundled/rebooted with 4088878 )

        • #185475 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          i’m so lucky i didn’t apply any of the march patches yet!

          • #185521 Reply
            CADesertRat
            AskWoody Plus

            Me either, still waiting on the “Go Ahead” from Woody.

            Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
            4 Win 10 Pro at 1909 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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            • #185524 Reply
              Frwin
              AskWoody Plus

              Same for me, didn’t install any of the March or April patches; Waiting for Defcon and woody’s instructions

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      • #185479 Reply
        dgreen
        AskWoody Lounger

        Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Group A
        Rolled back to December 2017.
        Just did a windows update check.
        First picture is my check on April 13.  (notice kb4099950 is offered).

        updates-important-April-13-1

        Second picture is a check a few minutes ago.  kb4099950 is gone.

        update-check-april-18

        3rd picture is optional today.

        update-check-april-18-optional

        My question is, do I not have to think about kb4099950 anymore?

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      • #185478 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Have not installed March nor April update. Intend to install April-update https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4093118/windows-7-update-kb4093118. This one does include 4099950, right? Does the changed version of 4099950 in the Update Catalogue mean that I have to seperately install the new 4099950 from the catalogue or am I good with the 4093118 offered in WU?

        ~ Annemarie

      • #185509 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        KB 4093118 has been installed 7 times on my computer and it still wants to install the same update again

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        • #185554 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          I would suggest you run Microsoft’s “Disk Cleanup”, press the “Clean up System Files” button, and see about removing the “old MS updates and Previous Windows version OS”, reboot afterwards. Then run the Windows Update Troubleshooter.
          https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4027322/windows-update-troubleshooter

          Also See:
          Fix Windows Update errors by using the DISM or System Update Readiness tool
          https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/947821/fix-windows-update-errors-by-using-the-dism-or-system-update-readiness
          Look for:  For Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008 R2 or Windows Server 2008

          Repairing Windows Update Issues with the System Update Readiness Tool (CheckSUR)
          http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/sln285523/repairing-windows-update-issues-with-the-system-update-readiness-tool-checksur-?lang=en

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        • #185693 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          Seeing the same repeated installs of KB4093118 here, too

        • #185746 Reply
          geekdom
          AskWoody Plus

          KB 4093118 has been installed 7 times on my computer and it still wants to install the same update again

          Three questions:

          • Are you Win7 32-bit or Win7 64-bit?
          • Have you installed April 17, 2018—KB4093113 (Preview of Monthly Rollup)?
          • What is the size of KB4093118 you are being asked to install again?
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        • #185749 Reply
          abbodi86
          AskWoody_MVP

          https://marc.info/?l=patchmanagement&m=152405743619956&w=4

          If you install the Preview Rollup KB4093113, all previous (lower) rollups become superseded automatically in the terms of CBS and WUA

          but the bundled PCIClearStaleCache.exe with KB4093118 does not know or recognize this, it will demand KB4093118 to be installed and active (not superseded)

          so you will get loop of KB4093118 re-install until this happen, or you hide KB4093118 with 31 KB size

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          • #185757 Reply
            anonymous
            Guest

            Abbodi86: I don’t understand it totally. Is the solution

            install KB4093118, hide preview 4093113?

            I don’t understand this part: “so you will get loop of KB4093118 re-install until this happen, or you hide KB4093118 with 31 KB size”.
            – What is the 31 KB?
            – And how can you hide an update (the april rollup KB 4093118) when you have already installed it?

            Thank you in advance for your answer,

            ~ Annemarie

            • #185762 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              Assume you have installed KB4093118 already.
              If you install KB4093113 (Preview), it tells WU that KB4093118 is no longer needed (it supersedes KB4093118)
              But

              but the bundled PCIClearStaleCache.exe with KB4093118 does not know or recognize this, it will demand KB4093118 to be installed and active (not superseded)

              So it requires KB4093118 be offered again by WU.
              If you right click on KB4093118 in the important updates you can hide it.

              so you will get loop of KB4093118 re-install until this happen, or you hide KB4093118 with 31 KB size

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              • #185766 Reply
                anonymous
                Guest

                Thank you PKCano. I’ll think my order will be: 4099950 manually from catalogue, then rollup KB4093118. I never install the previews anyway, so I will be good (for a couple of weeks at least). Where have the days gone that a computer was fun, instead of a constant hassle to keep it updated and working without problems?

              • #185768 Reply
                geekdom
                AskWoody Plus

                From further information in this thread, KB4093113 (Preview of Monthly Rollup) is currently borked; it appears KB4093118 is not borked.

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              • #185807 Reply
                abbodi86
                AskWoody_MVP

                KB4093113 is not borked or have anything to do with the issue 🙂

                it’s how WU works with updates metadata

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              • #186077 Reply
                walker
                AskWoody Lounger

                @PKCano:  Question about the “word”   PREVIEW which I see referenced on several patches.  I thought that ALL  “Previews” were never to be installed.

                Has this changed, or did I misread that several times in the past.    This is becoming such a nightmare, I don’t know which side is “up” or “down” anymore.   Your clarification on this would be most appreciated.    I haven’t installed any of the March updates except the one which was cleared, and that one was KB4099950.  There was one other update that was installed, however can’t locate it, also “cleared” and to be installed ASAP by MS and this forum.  There were  several updates which the directions on this Forum indicated should be hidden, and  hid those.

                Everything is in such a chaotic state now, I’m not sure where we are on some of the updates we were told to hide.  Any further information would be very much appreciated.  I have not installed anything other than the one mentioned above, and the one which MS & the forum said MUST be installed.   Thank you once again for all of your help.   🙂

              • #186080 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                Previews are for TESTERS to install. Since they are UNCHECKED Optional updates, the average User should not install them.

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          • #185953 Reply
            woody
            Da Boss

            So if I understand this correctly:

            If you install this month’s Preview without installing this month’s Monthly Rollup, the Monthly Rollup will appear, checked, in Windows Update every time you run Windows Update. Repeatedly. Even if the Monthly Rollup is installed (after the Preview is installed).

            The only way to work around the infinite loop it is to hide this month’s Monthly Rollup.  (Or to uninstall the Preview????)

            Sound right?

            • #185958 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              I am going to speculate here – @abbodi86 or @MrBrian need to confirm:

              If you HAVE NOT installed 2018-4 Rollup and you then install 2018-4 Preview, the Rollup should not be offered in WU (since the Preview contains the Rollup plus May non-security and thus supersedes the Rollup)

              If you FIRST install the 2018-4 Rollup (which is bundled with PCIClearStaleCache.exe) and THEN install the 2018-4 Priview, what SHOULD happen is that the 2018-4 Rollup is superseded and is no longer offered.

              But, as @abbodi explained:

              but the bundled PCIClearStaleCache.exe with KB4093118 does not know or recognize this, it will demand KB4093118 to be installed and active (not superseded)

              So instead, the 2018-4 Rollup is offered again, and you get multiple installs.

               

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            • #186025 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              UPDATE:

              I see that PCIClearStaleCache.exe is also bundled with the 2018-4 Preview. So your scenario probably the case:

              The only way to work around the infinite loop it is to hide this month’s Monthly Rollup. (Or to uninstall the Preview????)

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      • #185517 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Annymous asked earlier:

        kb4099950 was “supposed” to be installed prior to kb4088878. Does this sequence not matter in this case? Any MVP care to weigh in as this is well beyond MY pay grade!

        Can someone please answer that question?

        • #185569 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          I don’t  know.

        • #185571 Reply
          abbodi86
          AskWoody_MVP

          Yes, KB4099950 should be first
          but if you already installed KB4088875 and don’t have any Network or IP issue, then you don’t need to reinstall

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      • #185550 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        When you download KB4099950 for W7 x64 with Internet Explorer here: https://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=KB4099950 You download a folder called “2018-04 Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB4099950)”. There are now (april 18, 2018) 2 files in it instead of 1,  in march:

        NEW FILE: AMD64_X86-all-pciclearstalecache_1c944f48bfb21d88a2054683abcd02327ecf6b37.exe

        SAME FILE AS IN MARCH: AMD64_X86-all-windows6.1-kb4099950-x64_245d5aaf7d50587297825f9176be166c47ad10f7.msu

        What has to be done with the NEW FILE? Run the .exe first or ???

        • #185567 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          Anonymous agreed.  Are we supposed to run the EXE file or will the 4099950 MSU file do it all?

        • #185570 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          Does this from abbodi86 answer your question?

          Patch Lady – We just got a new update for April

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          • #185601 Reply
            anonymous
            Guest

            Re 4099950 “You only need the .msu file update” per abbodi86.  Yes. Thank you Woody for the linked information!

        • #185572 Reply
          abbodi86
          AskWoody_MVP

          The EXE file is ment for WU/WSUS

          if you don’t have KB4099950 installed, then just run the MSU file

          if KB4099950 already installed, download and right-click on EXE and run as administrator, you will see a flashing cmd window, wait a moment then check this log file presence:

          C:\Windows\Logs\PCIClearStaleCache.txt

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          • #185603 Reply
            anonymous
            Guest

            Abbodi86, Thank you for the clarification. Microsoft needs you working for them!

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            • #185725 Reply
              anonymous
              Guest

              Do I do this for Server 2008 R2 as well?

              • #185747 Reply
                abbodi86
                AskWoody_MVP

                Yes, Windows 7 and Server 2008 R2 share the same updates

            • #185778 Reply
              woody
              Da Boss

              +1

      • #185586 Reply
        dononline
        AskWoody Plus

        actually the KB4093120 update CAN be installed onto a v1607 release of Win10 home & pro

        Thanks, @EP … I know, but if the recent CU cadence holds, we’ll probably be getting another one next week, too. I was just trying to make a little lemonade with my comment.

      • #185616 Reply
        Steve S.
        AskWoody Plus

        Win 7 Pro 64bit, Group B, Security Only updates.

        I downloaded KB4099950 and the other March patches from the Catalogue on 4/06/2018.  I installed in this order on 4/10/2018:

        (KB 4100480 was previously installed)
        KB 4099950
        KB 4088878 — NO REBOOT
        KB 4099467 hotfix
        REBOOT

        Reading all of this, I checked and found that PCIClearStaleCache.txt was created on 4/10/2018. I’m wondering how that happened, 7 days before the issuance of the “new” KB4099950.  I’m glad, but …. Hmmm.

        Win7 Pro x64(Group B), Win10 Pro x64 1909, Win10 Home 1909, Linux Mint + a cat with 'tortitude'.

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        • #185639 Reply
          SueW
          AskWoody Plus

          I checked and found that PCIClearStaleCache.txt was created on 4/10/2018. I’m wondering how that happened

          It happened because you downloaded KB4099950 from the catalog instead of using WU.

          Win 7 SP1 Home Premium 64-bit; Office 2010; Group B; Former 'Tech Weenie'

      • #185656 Reply
        jelson
        AskWoody Plus

        Today’s changes for KB4099950 probably involve changing its metadata to fix the issue of KB4099950 not working properly when installed via Windows Update (mentioned here by abbodi86) …. The catalog versions of KB4099950 were probably unchanged.

        I just downloaded the 32 & 64 bit editions from the Catalog and compared against the SHA-1 hashes for the ones I downloaded on April 6th: they are identical

      • #185781 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        There was some talk about KB4099950 being bundled in the April rollup. Was this just speculation?

        Microsoft sent out KB4099950 via windows update as a standalone update and the April 17 revision is also being treated that way. No mention that it will be bundled – or did I miss that?

        This update is a script that makes several changes. Another poster asked sometime back – if this update were to be uninstalled would the changes it made be reversed. I think an MVP answered ‘don’t know, probably not’. So, here we are being advised by Microsoft to uninstall it.

        Is there a consensus now that the windows update version did not make the changes it was supposed to make even though it says it installed successfully – we are just uninstalling a null patch?

        Bundling may have been their objective, but instead they have mastered bungling.

        • #185809 Reply
          abbodi86
          AskWoody_MVP

          – It’s rather misleading documentation
          the fix (PCIClearStaleCache.exe) contained in KB4099950 is bundled in April Rollup, but KB4099950 itself is still separate

          – Microsoft advise to uninstall/reinstall KB4099950 comes from the fact that the initial release of KB4099950 in Windows Update was not proper, and the fix is not applied

          uninstalling KB4099950 will not revert the changes made by PCIClearStaleCache.exe (if any)

          however, advanced users can revert the changes manually by restoring/renaming SlotPersistentInfo registry key, per @MrBrian analysis here

          Tests of KB4099950

          – Correct 🙂

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      • #185825 Reply
        Mr. Natural
        AskWoody Plus

        With the release of KB4099950 I had the urge to see if there were still any nic issues. I fired up an old Server 2008r2 running on a vmware server. This system had not been running since October 2017. So no prior patching or manually having to download and install an update from the windows catalog. Our WSUS system showed 14 updates available which included KB 409950. The list of installed updates are shown below.

        Everything installed without any errors and no nic issues on the vm. So not seeing any issues at this time.

        I also installed that update among a few others on a physical server still running server 2008r2 and no issues there as well.

        Red Ruffnsore reporting from the front lines.

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      • #185833 Reply
        columbia2011
        AskWoody Plus

        @abbodi86, why advanced users need to revert the changes manually by restoring/renaming SlotPersistentInfo registry key? As we know that KB4099950 is bundled in the April rollup (Group A) and will rewrite SlotPersistentInfo registry key again.

        • #186035 Reply
          abbodi86
          AskWoody_MVP

          I said “can” no “need” 🙂
          it’s a hypothetical action to revert the changes

          KB4099950 removes SlotPersistentInfo key, but new pci.sys may write it after installation, which should not be an issue

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      • #186083 Reply
        walker
        AskWoody Lounger

        @PKCano:  The other update which we were told MUST be installed was:  KB4100480.   I just was unable to locate my note.    My apology for not having that in the first message.   Thank you once again.

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