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    This topic contains 16 replies, has 11 voices, and was last updated by  Pixie 6 days, 16 hours ago.

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    • #238794 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      Remember the buggy Win10 version 1803 patch that bluescreens Surface Book 2 machines? Microsoft urged Surface Book 2 owners to boot around the bluescr
      [See the full post at: Microsoft yanks buggy second monthly cumulative update for Win10 version 1803, KB 4467682]

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    • #238820 Reply

      MrJimPhelps
      AskWoody MVP

      Microsoft urged Surface Book 2 owners to boot around the bluescreen and uninstall the patch. which is just what you want to tell your boss about her brand new, expensive Surface Book 2, right?

      When the boss goes and buys her own laptop without asking for a recommendation from IT, you do your very best to support it, making sure to very prominently put the finger on the manufacturer with relation to any problems that that laptop has. Of course, you have to do so in such a way so as not to make it sound like you are complaining about the boss’s choice in laptops or your willingness to fully support the piece of junk the laptop.

      I would try to find the very best loaner laptop I could find for the boss, and try to ease her off of the Surface if possible.

      That’s a no-win situation for any IT person.

      Group "L" (Linux Mint)
      with Windows 8.1 running in a VM
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      • #238860 Reply

        Nibbled To Death By Ducks
        AskWoody Lounger

        Well, you can always go home mumbling “The Consultant’s Song” for consolation (sung to the first few bars of of ‘The Volga Boatman’):

        “Yo, heave, ho,

        Yo, heave, ho!

        “On the one hand,

        On the other hand,

        We get paid either way,

        We get paid either waaaay…”  🙂

        …I feel your pain. I’ve been in the same spot sooooo many times in the past….

        BTW, who’s running the show up there at Redmond these days? Larry, Moe and Curly?

        Win7 Pro SP1 64-bit, Dell Latitude E6330, Intel CORE i5 "Ivy Bridge", Group "A/B [negative] :)", Multiple Air-Gapped backup drives in different locations, "Notify but do not download or install without asking."

        --

        "The more kinks you put in the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the pipes!" -Scotty

    • #238841 Reply

      anonymous

      Optional update? It was definitely forced on to my machine.

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    • #238909 Reply

      Pixie
      AskWoody Lounger

      Hello, well I’m more confused than ever!

      1) Susan Bradley in earlier posts tells us to never, ever, click check for updates.  Now I read that that is the only way we are ever going to get  Windows CU updates?  Is this true?

      2) I didn’t get the buggy KB 4467682 but today KB4023057 installed automatically without my knowledge but I couldn’t find it in my list of installed updates on my computer, just in the list of Windows updates.    It installed in November according to my Windows update list and was in my  list of installed updates on my computer, but now that KB is no longer listed anywhere on my computer.  Is it possible Microsoft installed KB4023057  today which uninstalled same KB from my computer? It’s just strange it no longer is showing installed on my computer anywhere unless there is another way for me to search which I’m not aware of.     I’m running Win 10 Home, 1803 on HP Spectre.

      3) Should I be clicking “Check for Updates” on my Windows Update to receive needed updates going foward?

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      • #238930 Reply

        PKCano
        AskWoody MVP

        The Patch Tuesday Security Updates come through Windows Update automatically. You do NOT have to click on “Check for updates” to get them. It is the Patch Tuesday updates that you want/need to install.

        The updates that are issued between Patch Tuesdays are Non-security Updates. They are optional “Preview” updates. They do NOT come through Windows Update automatically. You have to click on “Check for updates” to get them, and sometimes (more often than not) they still don’t appear. These updates are meant for testing by IT groups before they are rolled into the next month’s Patch Tuesday updates. In general, you do not need/want to install them as they are not meant for general User consumption.

        The exception to this are the emergency out-of-band batches that are meant to cover security problems, such as the two IE11 Flash Player updates released in the past month. But these will also come through Windows Update automatically.

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        • #239117 Reply

          Pixie
          AskWoody Lounger

          Thank you PKCano.  I’ll sit tight until they automatically  appear and delay them until cleared by Woody to update.

      • #238932 Reply

        fred
        AskWoody Lounger

        same here… KB4023057  pops up without notice, cannot be found in the M.Update.Catalog…
        weird…..     no signs or txt what it will do  ‘-((

        • This reply was modified 1 week ago by  fred.
      • #238938 Reply

        PKCano
        AskWoody MVP

        KB4023057 is not in the MS Catalog. It is part of Microsoft’s forced update/upgrade push.

        You will see KB4023057 installed in the Control Panel\Programs and Features. It can be uninstalled. But is is best to hide it with whshowhide before it gets on your machine.

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        • #238941 Reply

          fred
          AskWoody Lounger

          KB4023057 is not in the MS Catalog. It is part of Microsoft’s forced update/upgrade push. You will see KB4023057 installed in the Control Panel\Programs and Features. It can be uninstalled. But is is best to hide it with whshowhide before it gets on your machine.

          Thanks, any idea what it wants to do? {I love M*$}

           

          • #238967 Reply

            anonymous

            See this article on Softpedia for more info on the re-release of KB4023057

    • #238923 Reply

      gborn
      AskWoody MVP

      Remember the buggy Win10 version 1803 patch that bluescreens Surface Book 2 machines? Microsoft urged Surface Book 2 owners to boot around the bluescr[See the full post at: Microsoft yanks buggy second monthly cumulative update for Win10 version 1803, KB 4467682]

      Well, the ‘promised’  blog post is now public

      Windows 10: Update KB4467682 breaks Custom Start menu

      I guess, the withdraw of KB4467682 may be also related the custom start menu issue mentioned above, because the first version of Microsoft’s text recommends only to uninstall the patch on Surface Book 2 machines.

      • This reply was modified 1 week ago by  gborn.
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    • #238928 Reply

      anonymous

      If you use windows 10 home and are locked down on a metered connection make sure to update defender updates directly from the catalogue and don’t “seek” the update.

      Windows starting holding auto virus protection updates hostage in win7 when win10 was being foisted onto people and they seem to be using the same tactic now.

      https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/definitions

    • #238964 Reply

      jescott418
      AskWoody Lounger

      I got a 1809 cumulative update KB4469342 that seems to have caused issues with my desktop PC’s  from going to sleep. My laptop also had some wireless issues although a updated driver appears to have fixed that. Well it will if Windows doesn’t re-install the old driver. I have had problems with that recently too. I just got my Chromebook the other day to test out, so hopefully I can finally get past the Windows mess for the most part.

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    • #238977 Reply

      ukhobo
      AskWoody Lounger

      How does anyone keep up with this rubbish? There is only one Windows 10 laptop in our house, my daughter’s, it never gets any special treatment and I’m feeling very very lucky that it’s still working.

      • #239019 Reply

        anonymous

        That’s how things should work and if it works, keep it that way.

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