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    To continue from this post, I’ve started on my NAS/File Server setup. I read several guides on setting up RAID 1 on an Intel motherboard, and trying to follow first one and then another, I pooched the setup big time. So I’m sorta winging it now.

    I setup RAID in UEFI with two identical 3TB Seagate NAS drives. I setup two arrays on the drives, one array of 1.7TB and another at 1TB. Next I rebooted to a Windows 7 installation USB, and installed Windows 7 just to get the EFI partition created and a BCD written. Once the Windows 7 install was complete, I didn’t bother to activate, I just booted into TBWinRE.

    I used TBWinRE to restore an image of my SSD with Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 10532, and then rebooted. Naturally, the BCD was pointing to an invalid GUID for the drive, so I used DISKPART to give the EFI partition a drive letter, then bootrec.exe in Command Prompt to run /fixboot, rename the existing BCD to BCD.BAK, then bootrec.exe again to recreate the BCD store. That puts the correct GUID’s in place. I then rebooted, and Windows 10 Pro IP 10532 booted just fine, but in System Properties it wasn’t activated.

    I did some preliminary personalization, including renaming the PC, then rebooted so that the changes would take effect. After the reboot, Windows was activated. I didn’t have to do a thing. Of course, this is an Insider Preview, which may simplify things, but it is also a Retail Windows 7 Professional SP1 that was upgraded, so it should be portable.

    So that’s two successful migrations of Retail Upgraded Windows 10 Pro from one machine to another. I’m now formatting my RAID arrays to get that part of the new setup going. I’m using full format, so I expect it to take quite a bit of time, but I also want to be certain that both disks have been thoroughly checked before I start loading data on them.

    Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
    We were all once "Average Users". We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems, we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

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    • #1528342

      It wasn’t an upgrade from Windows 7, as you restored Insider Preview; so it wasn’t testing portability of a retail license. (Won’t Insider Preview activate on anything?)

      Windows 11 Pro version 22H2 build 22621.2361 + Microsoft 365 + Edge

      • #1528353

        It wasn’t an upgrade from Windows 7, as you restored Insider Preview; so it wasn’t testing portability of a retail license. (Won’t Insider Preview activate on anything?)

        The Insider Preview was an upgrade of Retail Windows 7.

        Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
        We were all once "Average Users". We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems, we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

        • This reply was modified 3 years, 7 months ago by bbearren.
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      I setup RAID in UEFI with two identical 3TB Seagate NAS drives

      How do you use NAS drives in UEFI? Does your mobo support NAS via IP?

      cheers, Paul

      • #1528572

        How do you use NAS drives in UEFI? Does your mobo support NAS via IP?

        cheers, Paul

        3TB Seagate NAS drives. I set them up in a RAID 10 array via the motherboard, ran a full format, created a base folder for each array, then in Windows made that base folder a shared folder across my network (my home network is gigabit).

        All subsequent folders will be nested within the shared folder. Works very well. I created a set of drive images of my Windows 8.1 Pro using Image For Windows last night and the setup was faster than my GoFlex Home NAS on the same network. I’m quite pleased with the results so far.

        I also checked out streaming movies from my setup last night. Windows Media Center in 8.1 works great. The Windows 10 Movies and TV app was jerky and hesitant.

        Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
        We were all once "Average Users". We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems, we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

        • This reply was modified 3 years, 7 months ago by bbearren.
    • #1528581

      Not a NAS, just drives marketed as NAS compatible. 🙂

      cheers, Paul

      • #1528616

        Not a NAS, just drives marketed as NAS compatible. 🙂

        cheers, Paul

        Yes a NAS, configured with Windows 10 instead of FreeNAS or NAS4Free, and equipped with hard drives with NAS level firmware in a RAID 10 array.

        So far, it’s noticeably faster than my small dedicated NAS; but then it’s got a Core i5 CPU and 32GB RAM, so one might expect it to be faster. That was my intent, after all.

        Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
        We were all once "Average Users". We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems, we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

        • This reply was modified 3 years, 3 months ago by bbearren.
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      The replacement mSATA SSD arrived today. I got it installed and used IFW to copy (clone) the 2.5″ SSD over to it, rebooted and jumped back through those cold boot hoops to get it up and booting into Windows. It’s 9GB larger than the 2.5″ SSD, so I extended the Windows partition using Disk Management. I’ve made a fresh full drive image of the mSATA SSD now, and it’s all looking good.

      Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
      We were all once "Average Users". We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems, we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

      • This reply was modified 3 years, 3 months ago by bbearren. Reason: remove html
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      Thought I’d add, I have 2 NAS drives, a WDC 1TB and a WDC 2TB. Both are attached by cable to my Router, the booting of a computer has no bearing on them. I have Win7, Win8.1, Win10, Linux Mint 17 and Mac OS X using both for storage and retrieval.

      Before you wonder "Am I doing things right," ask "Am I doing the right things?"
      • #1528763

        Thought I’d add, I have 2 NAS drives, a WDC 1TB and a WDC 2TB. Both are attached by cable to my Router, the booting of a computer has no bearing on them. I have Win7, Win8.1, Win10, Linux Mint 17 and Mac OS X using both for storage and retrieval.

        I also have a standalone Seagate GoFlex Home NAS 3TB (plus an extra 3TB drive cartridge) with a gigabit Ethernet connection, but it’s getting a bit long in the tooth. The booting of a computer has no bearing on it, either, but the power switch sure does. And without a computer to access it, it’s a nice paperweight.

        The OP was about being able to migrate a Retail Windows 10 OS Upgrade from one machine to another. My interest in setting up a NAS was a means of seeing whether a Retail version of Windows 7/8.1 retains its portability after an upgrade to Windows 10. Slmgr /dlv declares that both my Windows 10 upgrades are Retail, and the EULA that comes up when clicking on “Read the Microsoft Software License Terms” in System Properties also says that a standalone Windows version retains its portability when upgraded to Windows 10.

        It wasn’t necessarily about the best/cheapest/fastest NAS solution or anything along those lines. Any further updates RE my NAS will be posted in the Windows Server Forum.

        Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
        We were all once "Average Users". We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems, we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

        • This reply was modified 3 years, 3 months ago by bbearren.
        • #1528764

          I most assuredly understood all that, was only trying to point out that since UEFI was mentioned that a typical NAS setup doesn’t rely upon either type of BIOS or only a Windows Operating System. But if the NAS setup is in a computer it would need appropriate BIOS boot support but I’d think a separate drive for the OS would be a more usable way to do it. Newer motherboards have more SATA ports than most folks will use, mine from 4 years ago has 6 plus one PATA port.

          Before you wonder "Am I doing things right," ask "Am I doing the right things?"
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