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    This topic contains 15 replies, has 10 voices, and was last updated by  cesmart4125 3 weeks, 1 day ago.

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    • #234426 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      So what do you do when Microsoft crashes your copy of Outlook, says you shouldn’t uninstall the security patch that fixes it, and offers Outlook Web A
      [See the full post at: More details on those two yanked Office non-security patches, and the one known bad security patch that’s still being pushed]

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    • #234483 Reply

      b
      AskWoody Lounger

      The issue only affects 64-bit installations of Outlook 2010.

      What percentage of Outlook 2010 users installed the 64-bit version, and are still using it? 1%?

      we recommend running 32-bit Office 2010 even on 64-bit Windows operating systems for better compatibility.
      Understanding 64-Bit Office

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      • #234486 Reply

        Chris B
        AskWoody Lounger

        For me, I am using Outlook 2010 32 bit version on Win 7 64 bit. I intend using it for as long as possible, because I cannot justify the expensive subscription for current versions of Office.

        Chris

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        • #234558 Reply

          SteveTree
          AskWoody Lounger

          Ditto. It’s hard to justify the upgrade expense when 2010 adequately suits your needs.  For Microsoft, that ‘user attitude’ is the problem. Users who don’t upgrade reduce  profit.

          Use beyond October requires risk assessment.   I will need to think about replacing Outlook but personal use of  Excel and Word is low risk so I forsee no great problem continuing with them beyond their stated ‘use by’ date. There’s been no need to touch the rest of the package for about six years and those components are uninstalled already.  Microsoft do have little known free access account similar to Google’s Docs, Sheets, etc.   Just sign in to Office online

           

          Group A (but Telemetry disabled Tasks and Registry)
          Win 7 64 Pro desktop
          Win 10 32 Home portable

          • This reply was modified 4 weeks, 1 day ago by  SteveTree.
      • #234507 Reply

        flackcatcher
        AskWoody Lounger

        In the United States alone, or world wide.  Stable systems are prized over the neatest newest  program or app in government or enterprise. So is Office 2010 with Outlook 2010 still being used widely, yes, even over 365.  So yes b, this is a serious problem among those users.

        • #234529 Reply

          b
          AskWoody Lounger

          So is Office 2010 with Outlook 2010 still being used widely, yes, even over 365.

          My point was about the affected 64-bit version, which was never recommended so not widely installed.

          But do you seriously think there are more than 187.5 million copies of Outlook 2010 still in use when it’s been out of mainstream support for more than three years?

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          • #234531 Reply

            Microfix
            AskWoody MVP

            Agreed b, x64 Office 2010 was widely shunned in favor of x86 version, however, extended support for Office 2010 ends on 13th October 2020 which leaves 23 months of security patches to go for those home-users or businesses that use it.

            | W10 Pro x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 | Linux x64 Hybrids | XP Pro O/L
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          • #234614 Reply

            DrBonzo
            AskWoody Lounger

            The point is not how many users there are or what percentage of a particular group of people uses a product. Rather, the point is that when a company says it will support a product until a certain date, then they need to support that product and they need to support it correctly, properly, and in a timely fashion. Period.

          • #234646 Reply

            flackcatcher
            AskWoody Lounger

            You asked a question. I answered your question. Now if want to move the goal posts, go right ahead. Now there are critical issues dealing with backbone comm systems including how to integrate programs like Outlook into on going cloud like infrastructure. But that’s not the question you ask, Next time, be a little more honest at what you are getting at here.

            • #234679 Reply

              b
              AskWoody Lounger

              There was nothing dishonest about my 64-bit question, but I did misunderstand your comment about “even over 365”. I accept that some still use Outlook 2010, but largely the 32-bit version.

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      • #234511 Reply

        anonymous

        Though I continue to use Word 2010 and Excel 2010 which still work and that I paid for way back when, I abandoned Outlook 2010 for the free Mozilla Thunderbird a couple years ago because that version of Outlook had been plagued for some time with comes-and-goes instability and update issues. I too am dumbfounded that anyone would still be wrestling with that program.

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    • #234513 Reply

      anonymous

      I tried uninstall KB2863821 and KB4461522 on W 8.1/64 (Office 2010) and it took me hours with no success.

    • #234578 Reply

      ashfan212
      AskWoody Lounger

      Windows 7, x64 Home Premium, Group A, Office 2010 32-bit

      I installed KB4461522 and KB2863821 on November 7th. I installed the November monthly rollup successfully on November 14th. To my surprise, the installation date listed for KB4461522 and KB2863821 under View Installed Updates was November 14th and not November 7th. So apparently, the November monthly rollup contained code to integrate those two Office updates. Accordingly, I did not even dare to consider uninstalling the Office updates as I feared that doing so would corrupt other aspects of the successful installation of the November monthly rollup. In fact, the altered installation dates that I observed under View Installed Updates may explain why the prior post indicated that the user was unable to uninstall those two updates – perhaps those Office updates cannot be uninstalled once the November monthly rollup is subsequently installed.

      I have not noticed any issues with Outlook 2010. I would imagine that the experienced forum members would only recommend to uninstall such updates when problems with product functionality have been noticed. That point may be now irrelevant if those offending Office updates can no longer be uninstalled once the November monthly rollup has been installed.

       

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    • #234662 Reply

      b
      AskWoody Lounger

      … and you can’t log on to OWA because of a Multi-Factor Authorization bug?

      Fixed now:

      Current status: We’ve confirmed that MFA requests are being processed successfully. We’re continuing to monitor the service to ensure that impact has been remediated.
      https://status.office365.com/

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    • #236337 Reply

      cesmart4125
      AskWoody Lounger

      For football fans, the answer is obvious.  Drop back and punt!

       

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