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    Home Forums AskWoody support Windows Windows 10 Windows 10 version 1903 – May 2019 Update Moving from 1809 to 1903 Revisited

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      • #2053963 Reply
        doneager
        AskWoody Plus

        I saw a post from Woody today stating that upgrading from 1809 to 1903 is now considered advisable for home users. I participated in a LONG thread on this topic some time ago when I was trying to create a bootable USB with 1903 on it in preparation for this day. For a number of reasons, none of which I can recall, I was never able to create the required USB. I also tried at one point fairly recently to upgrade using the Woody-recommended method of setting a certain number of days delay in the SAC, but nothing ever downloaded to wushowhide. So, is there any way I can accomplish the 1809 to 1903 upgrade, or should I just wait for the OK on 1909?

        Thanks!

         

        D. Eager

      • #2054380 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        So, is there any way I can accomplish the 1809 to 1903 upgrade,

        If you are on Pro version the defer feature updates between 50-120 days and quality updates to 0.
        On home you can just download the ISO file (using HiDoc.net…) and run the setup.exe from your current 1809.

        I used the first method and got 1903 after Windows 10 daily checked for updates, with 0 problems.

      • #2054744 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Once you get the ISO for the version you want, you can within Windows right click on it to mount it, and then from the mounted drive run the setup.exe .  You do not have to create a DVD or USB, although they are useful as a bootable recovery environment, and can perform repair or clean installs.

        Getting the ISO – heidoc, normally.   If that isn’t working, fido is a powershell script.

      • #2057618 Reply
        Paul T
        AskWoody MVP

        So, is there any way I can accomplish the 1809 to 1903 upgrade

        Try Aveyo’s batch file. It will ask what version you want.
        https://pastebin.com/bBw0Avc4

        cheers, Paul

      • #2060636 Reply
        doneager
        AskWoody Plus

        Thanks to the two of you who responded to my inquiry.

        Regarding “heidoc” I think I tried to use this before. It is a website, correct? I recall that where I ran into a problem last time was when I tried to put the downloaded ISO onto a USB for future use, awaiting clearance from Woody it update. Could NOT get that to work. Am I correct that if I go there now, I can just download 1903 (x64) then go to Downloads folder and right click the file to “mount” it. Not sure exactly what that means. Do I have to move the file from Downloads to somewhere else? Where? After it’s been moved, do I go to the new location and double-click setup.exe to execute it? Do I need to turn off metered connection, change SAC Feature from 365, or involve wushowhide in any way?

        Regarding the batch file, I looked at it but it seems WAY too complicated.

        Your help is really appreciated.

        • #2060692 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Unfortunately Heidoc doesn’t seem to be working at the moment. See this thread.

          • #2060734 Reply
            doneager
            Guest

            Just downloaded 1903 (x64) September edition from there. Seemed to work fine!

            • #2060797 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              Be sure to disconnect from the Internet during the install, or there is a good chance MS will upgrade you to 1909.

              • #2060997 Reply
                doneager
                Guest

                OK! Will do. Thanks.

              • #2084864 Reply
                dwelge
                AskWoody Plus

                I have a download of 1903 but when I run the Media Creation Tool to get my ISO it installs 1909. What am I doing wrong? I just want 1903.

              • #2084874 Reply
                mledman
                AskWoody Plus

                If you already had the 1903 ISO, did you disconnect from the internet while you did the install?  If you are using the media creation tool, it will download 1909.

                Win 10 home - 2004
                Attitude is a choice...Choose wisely

                • This reply was modified 8 months, 2 weeks ago by mledman.
              • #2084880 Reply
                dwelge
                AskWoody Plus

                When I created the ISO had previously installed from for 1903 must of turned it into 1909. I disconnected the computer I was installing the ISO and it is 1909. Is there another way?

              • #2084966 Reply
                mledman
                AskWoody Plus

                If you are on 1909 and want to go back to 1903, you may be able to uninstall update kb4517245.

                Win 10 home - 2004
                Attitude is a choice...Choose wisely

              • #2084875 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                The Media Creation Tool, even it says 1903, will download 1909 b/c it is the current version. 1903 is no longer available through the MCT. You will have to get the 1903 ISO from Heidoc.net – download their “Windows and Office ISO Download Tool” and run it. Be sure you choose the correct Edition (Home, Pro, etc) and the correct bitedness (32 or 64 bit).

              • #2084923 Reply
                dwelge
                AskWoody Plus

                I created a mounted USB with Rufus. Does UEFI or Legacy matter?

              • #2085134 Reply
                Paul T
                AskWoody MVP

                I created a mounted USB with Rufus. Does UEFI or Legacy matter?

                Not for the the bootable USB, but if your machine is not set to boot UEFI you will need to use Legacy. It’s best to use whatever is your current setting.

                You can find the current boot mode by running MSINFO32 and checking “BIOS Mode”.
                (Win R, msinfo32)

                cheers, Paul

              • #2085231 Reply
                dwelge
                AskWoody Plus

                My machine and other machines is set to Legacy but for some reason when I ran this bootable USB it works in UEFI. Why would that be? Thanks for the replies!

              • #2085467 Reply
                Paul T
                AskWoody MVP

                Maybe your BIOS is set to UEFI/Legacy and it switches to whatever is on the selected boot disk – which then shows up on msinfo.
                You’ll need to go into the BIOS to confirm.

                cheers, Paul

          • #2084705 Reply
            EP
            AskWoody_MVP

            Heidoc works for downloading only Win8.1 & Win10 ISOs.
            It doesn’t work for downloading original Win7 SP1 ISOs as MS seems to make it nearly impossible to download W7 ISOs

        • #2084676 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          I’ve been hoping for answers to my questions posted on 1/11/20. Can original respondent please reply?

          D. Eager

      • #2061607 Reply
        JC Zorkoff
        AskWoody Plus

        Yesterday I upgraded from 1809 to 1903 without any problem (it took a while to complete).

        I set the feature update deferral to 140 days and ran the Windows Update Manager by David Xanatos (it is like wushowhide.diagcab from Microsoft). This verified that the feature upgrade to 1903 was the only pending update.

        Then I clicked on “Check for Updates” and the installation was off and running. It took about an hour before the Logon Screen appeared (after about 4 reboots).

        I did NOT disconnect from the internet and did not get upgraded to 1909.

        Once I logged in, I reset the feature update deferral back to 300 days.

        To check for any quality updates, set the quality deferral to about 10 days and run the Windows Update Manager again. Now you can select any updates you want to hide and leave the remainder to update the next day (or when you “Check for Updates”)

        This process works for me all the time to control what updates I allow.  Be sure to reset the quality update deferral back to about 28 when done.

        • #2066144 Reply
          Paul T
          AskWoody MVP

          I assume this is W10 Pro? If you use Home then you can’t do deferrals so disconnecting is easiest.

          cheers, Paul

          • #2067801 Reply
            JC Zorkoff
            AskWoody Plus

            Yes Paul, I am running Win 10 Pro.  I should have included that in my original post.

             

      • #2084297 Reply
        bsqrd
        AskWoody Plus

        Hello JC, bsqrd here. I found this conversation whilst browsing Ask Woody for help with upgrading my Dell laptop from 1809 to 1903. I have been waiting for two days for Microsoft to pick up the ball to get to 1903. Currently I have feature update deferral set to 180 days( per Woody’s article in Computerworld Jan 10- which refers back to another article in November) and quality update deferral set at 10. I’m a newbie and not confident in my computer skills when it comes to wushowhide , batch files and such like.

        Are you able to confirm 140 is still a good number for setting the feature update deferral? If so I could try your method tonight involving Check for Updates and get in before MS releases updates tomorrow. Woody has called foe MS-DEFCON 2

        Many Thanks

        • #2084748 Reply
          JC Zorkoff
          AskWoody Plus

          Yes 140 days will work fine. PKCano’s 120 days should work as well. There is no magic value as long as you are over about 100 days. Below that you risk getting Win 10 1909.

          Good Luck

      • #2084389 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Just used JC Zorkoff’s method on Windows 10 Pro 1809. Downloading 1903 right now.

      • #2084708 Reply
        EP
        AskWoody_MVP

        I’ve been hoping for answers to my questions posted on 1/11/20. Can original respondent please reply?

        D. Eager

        first off D Eager, what edition of Win10 are you using? Home or Pro?
        you did not state what edition of Win10 you have in your 1st post

        • This reply was modified 8 months, 2 weeks ago by EP.
      • #2084721 Reply
        doneager
        AskWoody Plus

        Win 10 pro, 1809.

        • #2084726 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          In Win10 Pro, if you want 1903, set Feature deferrals to 120 days, set Quality deferrals to 0. Check whshowhide to see if 1903 is offered and, if so, check for updates. If 1909 is offered, hide it and check wushowhide again.

          But, at the time of this post, there is only 30 minutes until the Jan updates are released by MS. If you don’t want them, you will have to hide them first.

      • #2084907 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Sorry for not replying earlier I think I agree with the replies you have had.  Heidoc seems to be working for getting Windows 10 ISOs.  If you have the ISO, you don’t have to do anything special like moving or creating any file or folder, other than disconnect from the internet.  Double click on the ISO or right click and mount it, a new window should appear with its contents and in that click setup.exe  It is better to make a backup of your system before doing a “feature update” which is what I like to call these major updates.  However if it does fail it often successfully rolls back to your old working system.

        The defer days method I don’t like as much as getting an ISO because the progress bar if any is not as helpful in telling you if the download worked or is working.  So if something fails you don’t know if it was a internet download issue or something else, and you don’t have a good estimate of how much longer parts of the job will take.

      • #2084978 Reply
        doneager
        AskWoody Plus

        Thanks to all who helped me with advice on this. Successfully updated from 1809 to 1903 today using the Heidoc method. No problems encountered.

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      • #2085998 Reply
        bsqrd
        AskWoody Plus

        JC Zorkoff, thank you for your response on January 14.

        bsqrd

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