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    ISSUE 20.49.1 • 2023-12-07 By Susan Bradley The upcoming December updates will begin Microsoft’s process of dribbling out Windows Copilot. No question
    [See the full post at: MS-DEFCON 2: Copilot for Christmas]

    Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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    • #2609190

      Hello,

      I have both a Windows 10 Home machine (Desktop) and a Windows 11 Pro machine (Laptop.) What is Start10 and or Start11? I am not familiar with either.

      • #2609229

        These apps change the Windows Start Menu back to previous versions like Windows 7.  They do require a fee for continued use.  There are other free and non-free alternatives such as Classic Start Menu which is not  developed any more.

        Mark

         

    • #2609224

      I have been using HP Smart for several years because I have an HP printer. I find it slow and frustrating so, if you don’t need it, I recommend avoiding it.

      Chris
      Win 10 Pro x64 Group A

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    • #2609226

      I have a minimal Win 11 Home PC that drives my television for streaming content (cut the cable three years ago).  Copilot was installed at the last update for this which would have been the November one.  Since this has only one use, I don’t pause the updates as there are no other peripherals attached to it and I only use Edge as the Browser to load content.  The only annoying thing is that Copilot will occasionally pop up when I’m using the  browser.

    • #2609241

      If you have multiple displays, the Copilot preview may not be offered to you. There is currently a bug that causes desktop icons to move unexpectedly between displays or causes other icon-alignment issues. I’m not yet aware of a resolution for this problem.

      Fixed in the preview update three days ago:

      New! You can use Copilot in Windows (in preview) across multiple displays. Press the Copilot in Windows taskbar button on the taskbar of the display where you want Copilot in Windows to appear. To show Copilot in Windows on the last display that it was on, press Win+C. If you use a keyboard, press Win+T to put the keyboard focus on the taskbar. Then go to the Copilot in Windows button to open it on any display. This is available to a small audience initially and deploys more broadly in the months that follow.

      December 4, 2023—KB5032288 (OS Builds 22621.2792 and 22631.2792) Preview

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    • #2609245

      From article “I’m not sure I understand why Copilot needed to be so deeply embedded in Windows,”

      Pretty obvious that it’s all about tracking and control.

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      • #2609248

        Not obvious to me. What does it track or control?

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        • #2609621

          My take on “Control” you are going to get it whether you like it or not.

          Unless of course you don’t ever update your system or better still disconnect from the internet.

          “Track” will if it uses Bing, would not part or all this info be sent back to the mothership for what ever reason Microsoft they see fit.

          Just my thought on this. Cheers…

          • #2609719

            My take on “Control” you are going to get it whether you like it or not. Unless of course you don’t ever update your system or better still disconnect from the internet. “Track” will if it uses Bing, would not part or all this info be sent back to the mothership for what ever reason Microsoft they see fit.

            Copilot only works via Edge and Bing.  I don’t want either on my PC’s, nor do I wish to use a Microsoft account to login, so I uninstall Edge and Bing, and I don’t have a Microsoft user account on my PC’s.  This renders Copilot impotent while at the same time increasing my privacy.  I don’t want trackers and/or targeted ads.  By eliminating some of Microsoft’s ecosystem from my PC’s, I’m able to maintain more of my privacy.

            Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
            We were all once "Average Users". We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems, we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

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    • #2609305

      Am I correct in understanding that Copilot will be installed regardless of what we do?  If so, can anyone explain what the functional difference is between hiding and ignoring it vs. using the registry hack?  RE: Win10 Home 22H2.

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      • #2609405

        The registry key pre-emptively disables Copilot, which will be in the December updates, presumably the CU. Hiding/ignoring it likely means it will still be running in the background whether you require its services or not.

        As you’re on Home edition, the registry key is your only way to disable it. Whether you do it now or once Copilot is actually on your system, makes little difference in my opinion. Doing it now or any time before installing the December updates, means once Copilot is installed it will already be disabled. So, pre-emptive like I said.

        I’m on Windows 10 22H2 Pro and I’m just going to wait and disable Copilot in Group Policy when it’s installed with the December updates.

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    • #2609341

      An excellent article in Windows Central entitled How to disable Windows Copilot in Windows 11.

      It provides clear stet-by-step instructions for dealing with Copilot including:

      • How to enable Copilot on Windows 11 version 22H2 or 23H2,
      • How to disable Copilot on Windows 11 version 22H2 or 23H2,
      • How to enable Copilot from Group Policy on Windows 11 version 22H2 or 23H2, and
      • How to disable Copilot from Group Policy on Windows 11 version 22H2 or 23H2.

      I assume that the same approaches described in the article for Windows 11 will be available for Windows 10 users.

      https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/how-to-disable-windows-copilot-in-windows-11

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    • #2609350

      “I’m not sure I understand why Copilot needed to be so deeply embedded in Windows, at least right now.”

      Probably simply prep for win 12 – do it “right the first time” so they don’t have to re-do it all. Just saving themselves time.

      - Thinkpad P15s Gen1 20T4-002KUS, i7-10510U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500GB M.2. others. Mint 21.2 Xfce w Vbox-win10. Mint 21.2 Cinn Edge w wine. Win 11 Pro 23H2 WU(local, no Copilot, no Edge). HP laserjets M254dw & P1606dn, Epson 2480 scanner. External monitor Dell S3221QS.

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    • #2609353

      That article provides instructions for hiding the Copilot taskbar icon as the way to disable it yet goes on the say that it can be invoked with a “Windows key + C” keyboard combination.  That is not “disabled” to me.  I remain unclear about whether the registry entries actually disable it (can’t be run) or if they simply hide it.

      I am persistent about this because I prefer not to hack the registry if hiding the taskbar icon accomplishes the same thing.  If adding the registry entries does more, I would like to understand what that ‘more’ is.

    • #2609438

      FWIW, I have seen HP Smart surreptitiously installed on Windows 10 PCs managed by Intune.

      I noticed that maybe a week or so, and it surprised me, because although a few of my users have personal HP printers (and most of those printers are on the network) most of them print to big KonicaMinolta MFPs.

      According to one PC I checked HP Smart was installed on 11/15. That’s in between when the October and November Patch Tuesday updates would have been installed.

      As far as I can tell no printers have been renamed though.

    • #2609446

      Not obvious to me. What does it track or control?

      I agree. There is a great deal of chicken little going on but I have yet to see any real danger UNLESS we ask it a question and then follow it’s Bing answer without question. But to me that is simple stupidity, not an imminent danger. Please show me where I am wrong, not simply that you feel I am wrong.

      Interesting circus and I am simply watching (typing this from Mint Xfce).
      MS is wedded to Bing so it will make windows more Bing based. Like chromebook or chrome browser is google based.

      The first computer I worked on, one day did actually, in effect, added 1 and 1 and came up with 3. Shortly thereafter we became aware of the huge glacier that had formed on the air conditioner and the warmth of the room, and simply shut it down for a while (IBM 7070, 1962, U of R).

      The real danger is that we stop thinking, or defer our decisions to someone or something else. So put down your “magic” 8-ball and resume your discriminatory thought processes!

      - Thinkpad P15s Gen1 20T4-002KUS, i7-10510U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500GB M.2. others. Mint 21.2 Xfce w Vbox-win10. Mint 21.2 Cinn Edge w wine. Win 11 Pro 23H2 WU(local, no Copilot, no Edge). HP laserjets M254dw & P1606dn, Epson 2480 scanner. External monitor Dell S3221QS.

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      • #2609721

        MS is wedded to Bing so it will make windows more Bing based. Like chromebook or chrome browser is google based.

        Bing doesn’t live in my PC, nor does Edge.  I don’t want the tracking or phone-home attributes of either, so I keep them at bay.

        Windows update likes to re-install Edge, but Revo Uninstaller Pro’s “Forced Uninstall” feature makes short work of it, files, folders and registry entries.  Bing can be rendered impotent by deleting its folders from Program Files\WindowsApps.

        MS may be wedded to Bing, but I am not.  I don’t want it doing anything “under the covers”, so to speak.

        Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
        We were all once "Average Users". We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems, we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

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        • #2609788

          First, I agree with your approach. For you.

          This build of win 11 on my P15s does intentionally use a MS login and does have edge and Bing. To me, those are curtains on the wall which I have pushed aside and I am not yet aware of their presence affecting anything that I do. I purposefully did this because I wanted to experience win 11 ootb – out of the box. If I find that it affects what I get from FF/google, or the operation of any app that I need, in a way that I can not avoid, I will likely take action, but until that happens, I will leave it to see what it is that folks are talking about.

          Lots of FUD being sprinkled around. Could be that it is all true!!! No, I want to see it first hand. I’m like that.

          Having edge sitting there does not affect me other than that some settings questions open automatically in it and demonstrate how MS is trying to encourage me to use it – that and nothing more. When it operates as an SVC AND causes an app that i use to give me a different or MS politicaly directional answer, I will effect necessary change.

          How would I know this, you ask. In watching (for example) current USA politics, I find it amazingly easy to realize the abundanty clear message and intent of the speakers. Regardless of which religion/belief system you subscribe to, -somehow- we humans seem to have the inmate ability to discriminate/differentiate between what is BS and what is useful, though I grant you that many on this planet do not exercise that very effectively. My jumping up and down will not change that. Simple observation and self action, will.

          Crowley pushed “do what you will be the whole of the law” , and then went on to do a lot of bad-a** stuff! Learn to effectively read between the lines. We can hide in abject fear or we can be always learning, always adapting.

          - Thinkpad P15s Gen1 20T4-002KUS, i7-10510U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500GB M.2. others. Mint 21.2 Xfce w Vbox-win10. Mint 21.2 Cinn Edge w wine. Win 11 Pro 23H2 WU(local, no Copilot, no Edge). HP laserjets M254dw & P1606dn, Epson 2480 scanner. External monitor Dell S3221QS.

    • #2609450

      I have W10 Pro.  So far I’m not offered Copilot on my HP desk top.

    • #2609454

      FWIW, I have seen HP Smart surreptitiously installed on Windows 10 PCs managed by Intune.

      I noticed that maybe a week or so, and it surprised me, because although a few of my users have personal HP printers (and most of those printers are on the network) most of them print to big KonicaMinolta MFPs.

      According to one PC I checked HP Smart was installed on 11/15. That’s in between when the October and November Patch Tuesday updates would have been installed.

      As far as I can tell no printers have been renamed though.

      I did see HP smart installed but realized that it was my fault for installing HP’s “full” version that HP wanted me to install for my laser drivers. I just removed it. My bad. HP, like google and MS (and most other software providers) simply wants their software managing things. Watch for it, expect it, deal with it, and move on.

      - Thinkpad P15s Gen1 20T4-002KUS, i7-10510U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500GB M.2. others. Mint 21.2 Xfce w Vbox-win10. Mint 21.2 Cinn Edge w wine. Win 11 Pro 23H2 WU(local, no Copilot, no Edge). HP laserjets M254dw & P1606dn, Epson 2480 scanner. External monitor Dell S3221QS.

    • #2609468

      There are apparently a large percentage of folks who are unthinking and label driven else sellers would not persist, and PT Barnum continues to be correct, if not badly understated. Every ad now has some version of “Black Friday” in it and assumes that many will not actually check past present or other prices to verify that they are actually benefiting. MS uses copilot and many will apparently blindly assume that they need a copilot and that this is a good thing (the same ones who use Bing.) (only a tiny percentage of windows users read and heed AskWoody. )
      IBM is trying Heron. (but we won’t know until ’33 if it actually flies…) HP has HP Smart. Then there’s the endless electronics and software called “i”something. There are a million marketing labels and sellers use them because they at least appear to increase their bottom line.

      Some thought that the Nvidia chip might hasten MS’s demise and lessen windows influence, but last decade’s MBAs are hard at work simply re-inventing Bing. That’s their job. If they don’t, they get fired. Bottom line.

      We can’t ever be as children but must become increasingly aware of the tools we use – else those tools use us! I have always thought of computers as simply toys. I recommend that ideology! The more seriously you take them, the more problematic they become.

      The sky is not falling – it is just an MBA doing her or his job.

      - Thinkpad P15s Gen1 20T4-002KUS, i7-10510U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500GB M.2. others. Mint 21.2 Xfce w Vbox-win10. Mint 21.2 Cinn Edge w wine. Win 11 Pro 23H2 WU(local, no Copilot, no Edge). HP laserjets M254dw & P1606dn, Epson 2480 scanner. External monitor Dell S3221QS.

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    • #2609543

      I do use StartIsBack on my laptop. Is that the same thing? I do not use any on my desktop which is the Win 10 machine. I didn’t know there was such a thing for my Win 10 machine.

      StartIsBack is a similar app.  These start menu modifiers go back to Windows 8.  There are variants for Windows 10.

      Mark

       

    • #2609781

      Starting the other day, when we click on the Taskbar search icon we get the message,

      • Your AI-powered Copilot,
      • Say goodbye to endless search results!
      • And in a blue box containing a link it says, “Try the new Bing”.

      We removed Edge, Chrome, and Bing from the system a long time ago.

      Now Microsoft is pushing us to make Bing our new search engine.

      The PC is operating under Windows 10 Pro 22H2, installed on 2/‎7/‎2023, OS build 19045.3693

    • #2609793

      Starting the other day, when we click on the Taskbar search icon we get the message,

      • Your AI-powered Copilot,
      • Say goodbye to endless search results!
      • And in a blue box containing a link it says, “Try the new Bing”.

      We removed Edge, Chrome, and Bing from the system a long time ago.

      Now Microsoft is pushing us to make Bing our new search engine.

      The PC is operating under Windows 10 Pro 22H2, installed on 2/‎7/‎2023, OS build 19045.3693

      LOL – this is not new. MS has been pushing bing for years, perhaps a decade? I fail to understand why folks are surprised. Money. Bottom line. Plus it doesn’t own google… and is being told by its MBAs that it must compete.

      Set your browser to use the search engine of your choice. Put a search box on your desktop. It is so easy to move on!

      - Thinkpad P15s Gen1 20T4-002KUS, i7-10510U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500GB M.2. others. Mint 21.2 Xfce w Vbox-win10. Mint 21.2 Cinn Edge w wine. Win 11 Pro 23H2 WU(local, no Copilot, no Edge). HP laserjets M254dw & P1606dn, Epson 2480 scanner. External monitor Dell S3221QS.

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    • #2609825

      Krism

      Yes, Microsoft has been pushing Bing for years.

      But not Bing with <u>AI-powered Copilot</u>.

      Kathy, yes, but, …I have noticed that besides the continuing plethora of Black Friday labels on sales ads, many ads, even on TV, add “enhanced with AI” even, perhaps especially, if they don’t have any such software. It’s a sales line. It is very far from reality. BUT it sells product, or so they believe.

      Bing has had “AI” for years, as has google. It simply remembers and uses your past search choices to “help” with future search expressions(if you so choose). I remember this on win 95. Now that it is vogue and a somewhat proven adjective to increase sales, they suddenly “have” it and the companies are espousing it as a big thing. Money.

      AI needs you to ask it a question so it can then decide how best to answer that question, based on previous questions and answers. I list folders, I display a PDF or a WORD-type document, I run a bunch of calculations according to parameters I have set. I watch a movie. it will be decades before AI plays any part in that. MY TV’s Amazon firestick tries its level best to pay attention to what i am watching and then tells me to ask Alexa to do certain similar things. Easy to ignore/bypass. My Vizio TV took an update recently which had me on chat to their support. Their solution – unplug the RJ45. Solved!. FF needs an internet connection while my TV does not. I can protect what FF sees with a router and cisco’s DNS servers, etc, but NOT from my stupidity. MS can AI the heck out of win 15 and still have little to no effect on what my FF gives me. as long as I am not stupid.

      - Thinkpad P15s Gen1 20T4-002KUS, i7-10510U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500GB M.2. others. Mint 21.2 Xfce w Vbox-win10. Mint 21.2 Cinn Edge w wine. Win 11 Pro 23H2 WU(local, no Copilot, no Edge). HP laserjets M254dw & P1606dn, Epson 2480 scanner. External monitor Dell S3221QS.

      • #2609832

        krism

        Susan Bradley started this topic stating, “The upcoming December updates will begin Microsoft’s process of dribbling out Windows Copilot.”

        She went on to say that, “Maybe the bugs should be worked out before Copilot is welded permanently to Windows.”

        I am restricting my comments in this topic (MS-DEFCON 2: Copilot for Christmas) to a discussion of the deployment of Copilot and options for minimizing its impact on our computers.

        I will not join a rant about the business practices of the technology sector in general and Microsoft in particular.

        Like it or not, we are dependent on Microsoft for our computer related activities and need to focus on optimizing our systems in order to address our specific needs.

        And our needs may be very different from others working in the Microsoft ecosystem.

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        • #2609845

          Kathy, Copilot needs Edge.  Without Edge, it is a non-starter.

          Copilot

          It won’t use Firefox, it won’t use DuckDuckGo browser.  It just pops up that dialog box.

          Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
          We were all once "Average Users". We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems, we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

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      • #2609841

        Bing has had “AI” for years, as has google. It simply remembers and uses your past search choices to “help” with future search expressions(if you so choose).

        Nope.  That is not “AI”, that is very large databases gathered from your web surfing, search history, tracking cookies, etc.  “AI” is not in the least necessary for any of that.  Years ago I did some experimental searching via Google which, together with Google’s “favored tier” search results, lead me to abandon any and all uses of the Google search engine.  Search for “snowmobile” and in short order (often only a couple of hours) get targeted ads on other web sites for snowmobiles.  I live in Florida.

         

        Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
        We were all once "Average Users". We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems, we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

    • #2609840

      We are dependent on someone or some thing only in as much or as far as we ourselves choose to be. No more or no less.

      We do indeed need to focus on optimizing our individual systems to safely serve our unique individual needs. We need to understand the situation.

      Susan Bradley has thankfully worked hard to give us options so that we each may do as we see fit. AND to educate us to what is presently known about copilot.

      My path with windows is to use and learn. (I will not reply further to this thread.)

      - Thinkpad P15s Gen1 20T4-002KUS, i7-10510U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500GB M.2. others. Mint 21.2 Xfce w Vbox-win10. Mint 21.2 Cinn Edge w wine. Win 11 Pro 23H2 WU(local, no Copilot, no Edge). HP laserjets M254dw & P1606dn, Epson 2480 scanner. External monitor Dell S3221QS.

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      • #2609860

        We are dependent on someone or some thing only in as much or as far as we ourselves choose to be. No more or no less.

        Many people choose to be employed by/operate/own a business that is conducted/communicates in large part online.  For most, that involves Microsoft Windows.  Susan and others here are responsible for negotiating that ecosystem in their respective work environments.  And for most of those folks, Microsoft/not-Microsoft is not an option.

        I am an inveterate tinkerer; bicycle, lawn mower, motorcycle, car, boat, computer.  I like to have my things work the way I want them to work, to whatever extent my knowledge and abilities allow.  I’ve tinkered with the many iterations of Windows for ~25 years, and I have Windows working pretty much the way I want it to; as a platform to run the programs/apps that I like to use.  I don’t need Edge, I don’t need Bing, and Copilot is impotent without them, so far.  If that should change, I’ll deal with it.

        Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
        We were all once "Average Users". We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems, we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

    • #2609854

      Search for “snowmobile” and in short order (often only a couple of hours) get targeted ads on other web sites for snowmobiles.

      What are ads exactly ? 🙂 Never seen one.

    • #2609963

      CoPilot Removal using manually inserted Registry settings —

      Can anyone point me to a copilot removal method using Registry keys please, both for Windows 11 pro and windows 11 home editions.

      I prefer to do it manually so that I know howto do it, and how to reverse the action if I need to.

      Yes I know to be very careful in the Registry.

      There have been some references in this forum but nothing definitive that I can find.

       

      mbhelwig

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    • #2609981

      Can anyone point me to a copilot removal method

      You can’t remove Copilot, only disable, or, Install Tiny11 2311 (23H2) which comes without Edge, Copilot…

    • #2610081

      I didn’t think you could remove it, or at least completely. It should have been an option whether or not you wanted it in the first place. And not be there whether you like it or not. If this keeps up with MS, I may end up removing Windows all together and go a different route.

    • #2610127

      Hello Susan,

      I just got your DEFCON 2 notice to block December updates. I installed updates on 11/7/23 after you gave the okay and Blocked further updates out to 12/12/23. MS won’t let me add anymore time to the block. It will unblock itself in 3 days and try to install the December  updates. How can I prevent that?

    • #2610136

      I hear what everyone is saying, however, for the home user and if you DON”T use it and use the NORTON Safe search option in Edge, you don’t direct it to BING and therefore do not use Bing.

      What implications are there for the home user to have this COPILOT on the laptop with the December updates?

       

      Thanks!

      Win 10 Home 22H2

    • #2610153

      What implications are there for the home user to have this COPILOT on the laptop with the December updates?

      That is the crux of my question.  What are the implications if we hide it and never use it as compared to disabling it with the registry hack.

      • #2610219

        It will remain more easily available should you change your mind about wishing to use it in the future. Otherwise, no difference for a single user.

        But use group policy or registry if you want to block others from using it.

    • #2610220

      In windows 11 dev preview

      [Copilot in Windows*]

      • We are making a change where the Copilot icon is shown on the right side of the system tray on the taskbar to make the entry point to Copilot more clear and easily accessible by being closer to where the Copilot pane opens. As part of this change, we have defaulted the “show the desktop” behavior for the far-right corner of the taskbar to off and this can be re-enabled in the taskbar behaviors section under Settings > Personalization > Taskbar (you can simply right-click on the taskbar to get to this).

      I don’t know about you, but I use Show the desktop a lot.

      Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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      • #2610235

        Yeah, that’s a pain!

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    • #2610303

      We are making a change where the Copilot icon is shown on the right side of the system tray on the taskbar to make the entry point to Copilot more clear and easily accessible by being closer to where the Copilot pane opens

      What about lefties users ?

    • #2610332

      Microsoft is continuing to push HP Smart.  I uninstalled it days ago when it first showed up.  This morning it was back.  Uninstalled until Microsoft installs it again.

    • #2613000

      Universities recommend uninstalling KB5033375 to fix Wi-Fi issues in Windows 11 and 10

      Last week, Microsoft released December 2023 Patch Tuesday updates with security fixes. However, it appears that the latest round of updates also causes headaches when connecting to specific Wi-Fi access points, especially in universities and businesses. Some cannot connect to Wi-Fi networks, and others report radical performance downgrades that make access to the internet borderline impossible…

      University of New Haven

      “A recent Windows update released on 12/12/2023 has caused users to not be able to connect to the wireless networks. This update is known as KB5033375. Please click here to learn how to uninstall this update and be able to connect to ChargerWiFi on your windows computer.”

      University of Brunel London

      “If you have a Windows 10 or 11 laptop, and recently downloaded a Microsoft update, you may have difficulty accessing the WiFi on campus. If you have exams next week which require you to use your laptop on campus, please follow the instructions below to uninstall the update.”

      Qualcomm Wifi Adapter problems on 802.11r WLANs after KB5032288 update

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