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    • #339989 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      With Patch Tuesday coming tomorrow, there are all sorts of threatening scenarios at work. Worst case: Microsoft declares that Win10 version 1903 is re
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    • #340048 Reply

      radosuaf
      AskWoody Lounger

      1903? No way, it’s still in the works and won’t be out for several weeks…

      MSI H110 PC MATE * Intel Core i5-6402P * 2 x 8 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2133 MHz * Aorus Radeon RX 570 4GB * Samsung 840 EVO 250GB SSD * Western Digital Blue 1TB HDD * Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD * DVD RW Lite-ON iHAS 124 * Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer PCI * Windows 10 Pro 1809 64-bit
      • #340066 Reply

        b
        AskWoody Plus

        Definitely more than four?

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      • #340206 Reply

        Mr. Natural
        AskWoody Plus

        I just read that 1903 does not play nicely with vmware. Seems we’ve heard that before. The Microsoft response? Use Hyper-V as an alternative…..  Yeah right. Let’s abandon all the money invested our organization has spent for hardware and software with vmware. That won’t fly.

        Red Ruffnsore reporting from the front lines.

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        • #340226 Reply

          PKCano
          Da Boss

          I’m having problems with the 1903 Insider Preview in my Parallels VM as well. Haven’t been able to install an update since Build 18343.1 (latter part of Feb). This is on a VM that has regularly updated without a problem since v1607 in March 2017.

          Gotta be MS drivers.

    • #340068 Reply

      GreatAndPowerfulTech
      AskWoody Lounger

      The past “March” feature updates weren’t released until April. Is there something new going on that you’re heard about? I block mine for two months, but install them manually as soon as I can, after I make a drive image. I can’t trust an update to not screw up my computers, or my customer’s computers. Images are a necessity prior to installing any update.

      GreatAndPowerfulTech

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      • #340070 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        Insider Previews have been dropping like flies on the Fast Ring lately with more-than-once-a-week frequency. That is usually a sign that MS is making an effort to squash as many bugs as possible (or change the color of something, or make something a little less round) immediately before pushing a Feature Update out the door.

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    • #340188 Reply

      Cayennejim
      AskWoody Plus

      I’m a long time Windows 7 home user. It’s almost time for me to bite the bullet and buy a  new Windows 10 Pro desktop PC. My question, silly it may sound to you Windows 10 pros, is how do I make sure during initial computer set-up that windows updater doesn’t just install every update in the book? Every article I’ve read says to click the check for updates button during install and let it do its work. Or is this something I need to do?

      Thanks for any help.

      • #340192 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        Be sure you get Windows 10 PRO. Home doesn’t cut it.

        If you get a new Win10 computer. You need to set it up OFFLINE. When you first turn it on, be sure you are NOT connected to the Internet.
        Make your choices for set up as it does the first use startup.
        Then, go through the Settings app and change all the settings to your liking BEFORE you connect to the Internet. Change the menu to your liking. Everything.

        Hint: get a book like Woody’s “Windows 10 for Dummies” and read about all the settings before you even turn the computer on.

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    • #340213 Reply

      ErnieG
      AskWoody Lounger

      Screen shot used in column in Computerworld is different in WinX 1809, I can only delay for 7 days
      Settings-updates-Advanced-Options

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      • #340233 Reply

        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Use GPEdit:

        Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > Windows Update for Business > Select when Preview Builds and Feature Updates are received > set to Enabled > After a Preview Build or Feature Update is released, defer receiving it for this many days” set no. of days.

      • #340234 Reply

        b
        AskWoody Plus

        Do you have Insider Preview builds, such as Release Preview ring, selected at Settings, Update & Security, Windows Insider Program?

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      • #340329 Reply

        b
        AskWoody Plus

        … and are you signed in as an administrator?

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    • #340285 Reply

      Mikey
      AskWoody Plus

      I usually use a non-administrative account, elevating to an administrative account only when needed. I just found that I can’t elevate Settings by right-clicking and selecting “Run as Administrator” as I can with almost any other app (the only option for right-click is “Open”);  deferring an update isn’t available to peons. Wazzup?

      Running Win 10 Pro 64-bit, 17763.348

      • #340328 Reply

        b
        AskWoody Plus

        Good point. I think you have to sign in as an administrator to defer updates on Windows 10 Pro.

        You also have to sign in as administrator to set a metered connection on Windows 10 Home, which Woody said months ago he would include in his monthly blocking instructions but still doesn’t.

        Knuckle dragger Cannon fodder Chump Daft glutton Idiot Crazy/Ignorant Toxic drinker Blockhead Unwashed mass Seeker/Sucker "Ancient/Obsolete" (Group ASAP) Win10 v.1903

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        • #340452 Reply

          Alex5723
          AskWoody Plus

          “Good point. I think you have to sign in as an administrator to defer updates on Windows 10 Pro.”

          It is true if your PC is on Ent./Corp. network managed by IT via GPEdit.
          Not true if you manage your own PC.

          Window 10 Pro 1803 (17134.590)

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    • #340402 Reply

      Morty
      AskWoody Plus

      I missed the train on DEFCON-4. Do I have to wait a month now for the February updates?

      I know we’ve been through this before, but I keep forgetting.

      • #340439 Reply

        Kirsty
        Da Boss

        For Win7 or 8.1, updating by Group B methods, you can still proceed to update the February updates manually.

        For Win 10, or Group A Win7 or 8.1, it’s probably very close to releasing the March updates. Letting your machine do the updates automatically may find the March updates instead of the February updates, depending on timing.

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      • #340461 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        The Feb updates have been approved for DEFCON-4. They will always have that rating now. So you can install them any time.

        Be sure the updates you install have 2019-02 in their description (NOT 2019-03 as those are March updates) and go ahead and install them.

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        • #340538 Reply

          Morty
          AskWoody Plus

          Thanks to both of you.

          You can’t be too careful.

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    • #340522 Reply

      CraigS26
      AskWoody Plus

      What is the presumption( or Thread url)  of HOW 1803 users will be migrated since 1809 has yet to appear and 1903 is allegedly just over the next hill.

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      • #340540 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        You should wait until 1809 is offered to your computer. MS is rolling it out slowly to (try) to avoid conflicts. When their AI shows it’s safe to install on your machine, it will be offered through Windows Update.

        If you think you just HAVE TO HAVE IT, you can try the “seeker” route and search for updates.” Or, you can use the Medis Creation Tool and install it manually

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    • #340664 Reply

      EP
      AskWoody_MVP

      woody & others:

      that SHA-2 update for Windows 7 has just been posted today – KB4474419
      https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4474419/sha-2-code-signing-support-update-for-windows-7-and-server-2008-r2

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