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      • #2363925
        Susan Bradley
        Manager

        ISSUE 18.17.1 • 2021-05-10 By Susan Bradley It’s time for both business users and consumer or home users to pause Windows updates. Accordingly, I’m ch
        [See the full post at: MS-DEFCON 2: Pause on patching]

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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      • #2363933
        Win7and10
        AskWoody Lounger

        Hoping that the May update will bring me the latest feature update.
        What happens if I do not receive the latest update and I am still on 1909?
        Should I wait and see if I get it pushed to me tomorrow?
        If not should I download it somewhere now?

        Is it safe to still be on 1909?

        Win 7 Home Premium x 64 SP1 (DELL INSPIRION i5) Still Alive!
        Win 10 Home 1909 (HP ENVY i7)

        • #2363942
          PKCano
          Manager

          See #2363939.

          May updates are the last updates for v1909 and then it will be EOL.
          You should seriously consider upgrading to v2004 or v20H1 (recommended) real soon.

          • #2363949
            Win7and10
            AskWoody Lounger

            How do I get the feature update?

            Win 7 Home Premium x 64 SP1 (DELL INSPIRION i5) Still Alive!
            Win 10 Home 1909 (HP ENVY i7)

            • #2363953
              PKCano
              Manager
              • #2363961
                Win7and10
                AskWoody Lounger

                I will wait until tomorrow, if it does not come, I will do the registry file, as it appears I do not have the SSU either KB4577266.

                 

                Do I need this first?

                Win 7 Home Premium x 64 SP1 (DELL INSPIRION i5) Still Alive!
                Win 10 Home 1909 (HP ENVY i7)

              • #2363963
                PKCano
                Manager

                No, KB3577266 is The SSU from Sept 2020.
                You will get any SSU you need installed with the update automatically.

                Do you have Pause set anywhere? If so, try Resume Updates.
                Do you have Metered connections set to ON? If so, turn it OFF.

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              • #2363991
                Win7and10
                AskWoody Lounger

                I don’t have anything on pause or metered, and will continue to check for updates.

                Win 7 Home Premium x 64 SP1 (DELL INSPIRION i5) Still Alive!
                Win 10 Home 1909 (HP ENVY i7)

              • #2364005
                Win7and10
                AskWoody Lounger

                GOOD NEWS!

                I left the computer on to do it’s own thing and settle in.

                A blue box came up and stated important update for the computer.

                I accepted the update and it provided 20H2.

                Now I updated WU and behold, April updates and those needed for 20H2.

                It was very strange, not used to this update system as I have w7 still on my mind.

                Thanks for your patience!

                Win 7 Home Premium x 64 SP1 (DELL INSPIRION i5) Still Alive!
                Win 10 Home 1909 (HP ENVY i7)

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      • #2363943
        EricB
        AskWoody Plus

        As of this writing the site graphic  for defcon level still shows it set at 4 not 2.

      • #2363958
        mpw
        AskWoody Plus

        1) “For those of you with an Office click-to-run (CTR) edition, I strongly recommend that you change to the semiannual channel rather than the monthly one because it will keep you from the Autocomplete bug.”

        I have Microsoft Office 2019 otherwise known as “Office 2019 for PC” or “perpetually licensed Office 2019”.  When I bought it, the info said I would only receive security updates.

        But this link says Office 2016 and 2019 update the same and I don’t know if I am getting more than security only updates.

        https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/officeupdates/update-history-office-2019#retail-versions-of-office-2016-c2r-and-office-2019

        Still, there is nothing to indicate whether updates are monthly or semiannual as pictured in this article.

        https://www.mcbsys.com/blog/2018/02/change-microsoft-office-to-semi-annual-channel/

        See attached screen shot from my Office 2019 Product information page.

        I don’t think I am on any channel.  So, I just keep updates disabled and only download when Defcon 4 appears.

        This article reads like I am still not safe because there are unsafe updates that can install even after Defcon 4.

        2) I use pause rather than set my internet connection to metered because metered blocks Windows Defender definition updates.  Pause lets them through.

        HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
        Windows 10 Home Version 20H2
        OS build 19042.928
        Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
        Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
        -Version 2104(Build 13929.20372 C2R)

        • #2363966
          mpw
          AskWoody Plus

          I left personal info on first time I added attachment and I cannot figure out how to remove the first attachment.  I have removed the personal info the second time I put the attachment up.

          I tried to edit and don’t know how.  Please help.

          HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
          Windows 10 Home Version 20H2
          OS build 19042.928
          Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
          Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
          -Version 2104(Build 13929.20372 C2R)

        • #2363992
          b
          AskWoody MVP

          I don’t think I am on any channel.

          Correct. Susan should have said “Microsoft 365”, not “Office CTR”.

          Windows 10 Pro version 21H1 build 19043.1052 + Microsoft 365 (group ASAP)

        • #2364484
          pfvincent
          AskWoody Plus

          I followed your advice and put in the Registry Key to defer the next feature release and also altered Office to the semiannual channel.

          It is now taking 4 minutes plus to open Word, Excel or Powerpoint files from One Drive or sometimes hanging completely! Trying to save a new Word file to One Drive also hangs with “Not Responding”. A few files that are only local open and save normally, as do non-Office files.

          I’m running Microsoft 365 Family on Windows 10 Home version 20H2.

          Advice please!

      • #2364018
        7Natives
        AskWoody Plus

        Start, Settings, Network & Internet, and then Wi-Fi or Ethernet (whichever connection you are using). Next, click Manage known networks; click on the network that you use, click Properties, and turn on Set as metered connection.

        Thanks for the heads-up! On my version of Win10 Pro 64b (20H2 | 19042.928 | Experience Pack 120.2212.221.0 <– what a ridiclous amount of junk to ID the OS!) the above instructions don’t work. Manage known networks is no longer available. However, if you’re on ethernet going to: Settings > Network & Internet (Satus) > Local Area Connection [Properties] you can set your network to a metered connection from there. I’m assuming it’s similar on this version for Wi-Fi.

        7

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      • #2364022
        anonymous
        Guest

        In the recent past,  Susan recommended (via video) either setting a “metered connection” or “deferral date”. I chose to use the “deferral date” because a “metered connection” can cause some apps to function differently. Now this post seems to be suggesting both. Is it OK to set both or are there any watch outs with doing this?

        • #2364091
          Susan Bradley
          Manager

          My apologies if the impression was to do both. I’m giving you the choice as to which you prefer.

          Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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          • #2364115
            PKCano
            Manager

            Did you mean “Pause” date? Pause is available to both Win10 Home and Pro.

            Defer is only available to Win10 Pro (and above) through Group Policy, and the setting is the number of days.

            Pause and Defer are NOT the same thing. Using the wrong terminology can be confusing to the User.

            • #2364203
              sahalen
              AskWoody Plus

              Yes, agreed, I mean “Pause” not “Defer”. Thanks for the clarification. I am using Susan’s video “Tasks for the Weekend 02-06-2021 – YouTube” to set the “Pause date through Start > Settings > Update & Security > Advanced options > Pause updates. Again, thank-you PKCano for the clarification!

      • #2364042
        bagman
        AskWoody Plus

        Hi there. Is wushowdide better to use with the upcoming monthly updates rather than the deferral option to a future date ?

        From what I have read the deferral option still installs the updates once your chosen date is reached whereas wushowhide lets you choose which update to install.

        Am I a bit off in my thinking ? Would appreciate your thoughts.

        Many thanks

         

        • #2364114
          PKCano
          Manager

          Are you referring to Pause? You can Pause updates to a given date. Pause is available to both Win10 Pro and Win10 Home. Pause begins when The User clicks “Pause Updates.” When Pause expires or the User clicks “Resume updates,” the result is immediate download/install of available/pending updates unless Metered connections are turned on.

          Deferral is only available through Group Policy to Win10 Pro or greater Editions.
          Defer updates only gives you a choice of the number of days to defer, not a certain date.
          Defer begins on the date of issue of the update and continues for the number of days set. When the Deferral time expires, the download/install can be controlled by another GP setting of “2” (notify download/install.

          The Main Blog post uses the terms Pause and Defer incorrectly, as if they are the same thing. They are NOT the same thing.

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      • #2364158
        Gazer
        AskWoody Plus

        Thanks for the “Pause on patching” article.  When I attempted to put in the registry key, it seemed to download successfully, but gave me the following error message when I pressed ‘this link’.

        X  Registry Editor

        Cannot import C:\\Users\Ralphnbarbara\Download of 20H2.reg:  Error accessing the registry.

         

        • #2364166
          b
          AskWoody MVP

          Are you signed in as an administrator?

          Windows 10 Pro version 21H1 build 19043.1052 + Microsoft 365 (group ASAP)

      • #2364230
        EP
        AskWoody_MVP

        new CUs are out Tue 5/11:

        KB5003173 for v2004/20H2 (and 21H1)
        KB5003169 for v1909
        KB5003243 for v1809 enterprise/education/LTSC

        KB5003233 monthly rollup for Win7 / Server 2008 R2
        KB5003228 security only update for Win7 / Server 2008 R2

        KB5003209 monthly rollup for Win8.1 / Server 2012 R2
        KB5003220 security only update for Win8.1 / Server 2012 R2

        note – the MS support articles for these patches will be posted around 11am or 12pm pacific local time

      • #2364237
        Lars220
        AskWoody Plus

        Just for info, I just now used the wushowhide.diagcab and will Hide 3 pending updates, but not hide the Security Intelligence update for Windows Defender Antivirus. Also, here are two links to download wushowhide because Microsoft removed it from their website.

        https://www.oldergeeks.com/downloads/file.php?id=2097

        https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/wushowhide.html

        wushowhide-20210511

      • #2364299
        L95
        AskWoody Plus

        I did a check for updates but won’t install any of them until the DEFCON level is up to a level 3 or higher.   I have Office 2010 on my computer,  and this is the first month that no Office security updates were offered to me.  Up until now,  Microsoft had been offering me security updates even though Office 2010 had technically reached its end-of-life several months ago.  Does the fact that I wasn’t offered any security updates this month mean that my Office 2010 has finally reached its end of life in terms of security updates?

        • #2364307
          PKCano
          Manager

          Office 2016 was the only .msi to get updates this month.
          But you never know with Microsoft.

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