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    ISSUE 20.18.1 • 2023-05-04 By Susan Bradley The order of the day is Windows 10 22H2. With Patch Tuesday just around the corner, it’s time to defer upd
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      While it is IMO the most bloated version of Windows 10 yet, I’ve been running 22H2 for many months now, and it’s been fine in a “powers a fast workstation to do engineering development and business management work” role. I really don’t have to reboot except after Windows Updates.

      It’s rooted in a gradual shift in software development philosophy, as I find it accumulates helpful processes and services over the time it’s being used more than any prior version.

      I might boot up and log in and find 125 processes running (and believe me, I’ve tweaked and trimmed aggressively to get it down to that number), then as I use it during the month gradually I’ll find that at the end of my day when I close every application it will settle back down to 150 or more processes running. Applications are getting lazier and lazier about cleaning up after themselves, with Microsoft’s own being arguably the worst.

      This ongoing self-bloat isn’t Earth-shattering, given the gargantuan resources a modern system has. On a fresh bootup I a few tenths of a percent more performance (verified by benchmarking) in the things I do (e.g., disk I/O in general, CPU time, UI responsiveness) than after it’s been running a while. But still, I’ve always appreciated systems and applications that strive to keep themselves clean, and could run forever. Feels like we’re just gradually getting away from that.

      -Noel

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      Applications are getting lazier and lazier about cleaning up after themselves, with Microsoft’s own being arguably the worst.

      Microsoft is setting a standard and the bar is low. Other companies will follow (and have already done so) Microsoft’s lead.

      Carpe Diem {with backup and coffee}
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      RE: Downloading the Media Creation Tool for Win10 22H2 and creating an ISO

      When patches are issued on each month’s Patch Tuesday, does Microsoft update the ISO generation process to reflect the latest patches?

      Specifically, is it sufficient to create an ISO just one time, or should a new ISO be created following each Patch Tuesday in order to keep it up to date?

      Or, following a repair install, does Windows Update install all patches that were missing from the ISO that was used for the repair?

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        When patches are issued on each month’s Patch Tuesday, does Microsoft update the ISO generation process to reflect the latest patches?

        No.

        Specifically, is it sufficient to create an ISO just one time, or should a new ISO be created following each Patch Tuesday in order to keep it up to date?

        Once or twice per year. ISO updates between annual feature updates are rare.

        Or, following a repair install, does Windows Update install all patches that were missing from the ISO that was used for the repair?

        Yes.

        Windows 11 Pro version 22H2 build 22621.1778 + Microsoft 365 + Edge

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    • #2556487

      I went to check my Windows 11 21H2 system to see if the LSA error was indeed fixed.  I looked at the core isolation section of Windows security and the LSA section is gone.  According to this page, Microsoft’s solution was to just remove the UI for it.

      https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-removes-lsa-protection-from-windows-settings-to-fix-bug/

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    • #2557053

      Things may be settling down for a stable Windows 10, but how are things overall with Windows 11?

      I ask as I’m on the verge of ordering a new desktop for home use (primarily gaming, plus browsing and emails), and have to decide which OS to have installed, 10 or 11 given that in this article Susan does not yet recommend the latest version of Windows for 11.

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        Well as far as I know, the latest versions work flawlessly with newer computers so that shouldn’t stop you from purchasing it.

        Just someone who don't want Windows to mess with its computer.
      • #2557117

        If you don’t like the Windows 11 Start Menu, a third party app like StartAllBack will give you a customizable Windows 10-like menu (or Windows 7-like) for about $5 per PC.  Some Windows 11 issues I have heard of seem to me like annoyances like it not being obvious how to use a non-Microsoft account login (local account), little blurbs on various screens about the benefits of Microsoft accounts or Bing or Edge.  If you are moreso concerned with privacy or “reminders” about what you should do, you might prefer Windows 10, but Windows 10 still has some encouragement to use Edge and some telemetry.

        One expert review of bad things about Windows 11 is here, although he doesn’t really focus on privacy concerns.  https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-11-dev-review.html  His complaints sound somewhat minor to me, so it confuses me a bit why they were the “straw that broke the camels back” for him to leave Windows for Linux.  Again, I think many complaints are fixed by StartAllBack.

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