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      • #2342038
        Susan Bradley
        Manager

        It’s that time again. Tomorrow is Patch Tuesday and it’s time to pause updates. There’s no reason to rush out updates this week.  Make sure your compu
        [See the full post at: MS-DEFCON 2: Time to make sure you are pausing Patches]

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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      • #2342054
        blueboy714
        AskWoody Plus

        Thank you Susan – the video really helped.  I didn’t realize that “pause” and “select date” in advanced were different.  Nor did I know about the metering trick for my network/Wi-Fi (other than PKCano’s trick when using “pause” and turning metering on to tell the system you want updates).

        It would be nice to see wushowhide video sometime on what to do – I’m still not 100% comfortable with that process.

        Question – do we turn the metering back off when we want to finally do the updates?

        • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 5 days ago by blueboy714.
        • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 5 days ago by blueboy714.
        • #2342195
          The Surfing Pensioner
          AskWoody Plus

          Yes, I’d really appreciate a video on using wushowide! I have it downloaded but have to date fought shy of using it. I need more confidence to know what to do on the spur of the moment.

      • #2342081
        Susan Bradley
        Manager

        I normally use the metered trick when I’m travelling and then turn it off when I’m back on back at home.

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady

      • #2342091
        Paul T
        AskWoody MVP

        I leave metered on all the time and use the buttons in Windows Update to fire off the update. Saves remembering to turn it back on.

        cheers, Paul

      • #2342172
        geekdom
        AskWoody Plus

        Make your backups now.

        On Hiatus {with backup and coffee}
        offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender TRV=1909 WuMgr
        offline▸ Win10Pro 20H2.19042.685 x86 Atom N270 RAM2GB HDD WindowsDefender WuMgr GuineaPigVariant
        online▸ Win10Pro 20H2.19042.804 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox86.0 WindowsDefender TRV=20H2 WuMgr
      • #2342176
        280park
        AskWoody Plus

        In Susan Bradley’s video she states that with Windows 10 Pro she clicks on “advanced options” on the Windows Update settings page and then selects the specific date on which she wants to get updates. She says that using this method (instead of clicking the “pause updates” button) “lets down only the security updates and it doesn’t trigger those preview updates.” Does this method also prevent other updates such as driver and microcode updates from downloading and installing?

      • #2342215
        geekdom
        AskWoody Plus

        Beta Test
        February 9, 2021

        • Created full backup: system image; files and folders
        • 2021-02 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 20H2 for x64-based Systems (KB4601319)
        • 2021-02 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10, version 20H2 for x64 (KB4601050)
        • Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – v5.86 (KB890830)
        • Installed these three updates using WuMgr
        • Rebooted
        • No errors during installation or after reboot
        • Checked for updates again
        • No further updates
        On Hiatus {with backup and coffee}
        offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender TRV=1909 WuMgr
        offline▸ Win10Pro 20H2.19042.685 x86 Atom N270 RAM2GB HDD WindowsDefender WuMgr GuineaPigVariant
        online▸ Win10Pro 20H2.19042.804 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox86.0 WindowsDefender TRV=20H2 WuMgr
        2 users thanked author for this post.
      • #2342219
        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        Looks like MSFT have (Finally?) fixed the Windows Fax Service Remote Code Execution Vulnerability across all versions Win7/8.1/10 and server editions.
        CVE-2021-1722

        Martin Brinkmann over on Ghacks has his regular comprehensive list of this months patches. Thanks again Martin!

      • #2342224
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Beware of KB4598291.

        With KB4598291 causing issues on some Windows 10 devices, you better be careful with today’s update releases
        from ghacks.net

        Microsoft lists three known issues on the support page. Two of the three are not new, as previous updates, such as January’s KB4598242, are also affected by them. The single new issue listed describes a problem with Direct3D 12 games when the in-game overlay of the Discord messaging client is being used. Games may throw an error and close unexpectedly. Microsoft notes that a Discord update addressed the issue, and that affected users should update the software to resolve it..

        First spotted by Windows Latest, feedback listings suggest that the issue is more widespread than what Microsoft’s support site lists as known issues. While the World of Warcraft issues, crashes for most users, could be because of Discord running on the system as well, issues with Windows Subsystem for Linux, secure boot violations and lots of reported installation failures indicate unresolved issues.

        The update is only available as preview at the time of writing, but it will be released to all users on today’s February 2021 Patch Day. Considering that it is unclear how widespread the issues are or whether Microsoft fixed the issues in the meantime, it is recommended to be very careful when it comes to today’s update releases…

        • #2342250
          anonymous
          Guest

          Did I miss something? since when is askwoody advising to install previews? The above post seems deliberately misleading as these patches have been replaced with patch tuesday variants that have been fixed by microsoft.

          • #2342270
            Susan Bradley
            Manager

            Since never. Where are you interpreting that?

            Susan Bradley Patch Lady

          • #2342275
            b
            AskWoody MVP

            Did I miss something? since when is askwoody advising to install previews?

            KB4598291 was a preview a week ago, but was today replaced by KB4601319

            The above post seems deliberately misleading as these patches have been replaced with patch tuesday variants that have been fixed by microsoft.

            The Discord issue still exists in the non-preview replacement and was not fixed by Microsoft.

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      • #2342241
        bbearren
        AskWoody MVP

        Successfully installed:

        KB4601319 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 20H2 for x64-based Systems
        KB4601050 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.0 for Windows 10, version 20H2 for x64
        along with the latest edition of the Malicious Software Removal Tool x64

        No hiccups, no problems.

        Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
        "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
        "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

      • #2342222
        anonymous
        Guest

        There is no SSU for 20H2 this month.

      • #2342272
        CraigS26
        AskWoody Plus

        Successfully installed: KB4601319 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 20H2 for x64-based Systems // KB4601050 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.0 for Windows 10, version 20H2 for x64 // along with the latest edition of the Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 No hiccups, no problems.

        + 1  No 20H2 issues …  Additionally, Control panel History shows KB4562830 Feature Update to 20H2 Enhancement Pkg ANDAdobe Acrobat Reader 21.001.20135…. No SSU seen for 20H2 this month.

        W10 Pro 20H2 / Hm-Stdnt Ofce '16 C2R / HP Envy Desktop-Ethernet/ 12 GB / 256G SSD + 1 TB HDD / i5-8400 Coffee Lake/ GP=2 + FtrU=Semi-Annual + Feature Defer = 1 + QU=0

        • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 5 days ago by CraigS26.
      • #2342283
        Carl D
        AskWoody Lounger

        Jumped right in and installed this month’s updates as usual – after making a Macrium Reflect image, of course.

        No problems so far, I use Windows Update Manager (WuMgr) to check for and install updates then I re-enable StopUpdates10 and I should be all good for another month.

        I see MS still insist on recreating and enabling the 2 scheduled tasks and re-enabling the 3 services for Edge every time I do the monthly updates, turned all that off again and also ran my .reg file to stop Edge from preloading every time you start Windows just in case (I can usually tell if that’s happening because CCleaner complains about having to close Edge before CCleaner can run even if I never use Edge).

        I also have a second PC here that I rebuilt a few months back (I’ll add the specs to my signature some time) and I’ll connect that up later and do the monthly updates.

        PC 1: Gigabyte GA-B250M-D3H Motherboard, Intel i5-7600 CPU, 32GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Graphics Card, 1x Samsung 870 EVO 250GB SSD, 1x Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD, Windows 10 Professional 20H2 64bit.

        PC 2: Asus H81M-PLUS Motherboard, Intel i3-4160 CPU, 16GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1030 Graphics Card, 1x Samsung 870 EVO 250GB SSD, 1x Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD, Windows 10 Home 20H2 64bit.

      • #2342301
        E Pericoloso Sporgersi
        AskWoody Plus

        20H2 Update went splendidly. No worries.

        (Still, I do have partition images just in case. 😷 )


      • #2342586
        TJ
        AskWoody Plus

        Waiting for a ‘Go’ for 4601050 .NET 3.5 and 4.8 for my Version 2004, but I did not want to wait with 4601319.
        After it installed and restarted, my 2004 is now on Build 19041.804 and all seems well.

        • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 3 days ago by TJ.
      • #2342593
        E Pericoloso Sporgersi
        AskWoody Plus

        After it installed and restarted, my 2004 is now on Build 19041.804 and all seems well.

        I now have (Win 10 Home) 20H2 build 19042.804,
        . . . . . . . . . .while you have 20H1 build 19041.804.

        I wonder if the difference of a single digit will be repeated for 21H1 and 21H2 ?


        • #2342650
          TJ
          AskWoody Plus

          Don’t know if that’s the difference, but I’m on Win10 Pro.

      • #2342649
        TJ
        AskWoody Plus

        I see MS still insist on recreating and enabling the 2 scheduled tasks and re-enabling the 3 services for Edge every time I do the monthly updates



        @Carl-D
        Can you say which tasks and services those are, please? Thx

      • #2342973
        Digger1664
        AskWoody Plus

        Thanks for the article, I can set the Calendar but do not have an option for “Change connection Properties” . Could it be because I use Bitdefender Total Security… I would find that odd thought!

        I have enclosed a “Snip”, this setting seems not to be there.

        Windows Version is 2004

        Attachments:
        • #2343226
          Paul T
          AskWoody MVP

          Are you an administrator on that machine?
          Under Accounts, it will show whether you are just below your user name.

          cheers, Paul

      • #2343311
        blueboy714
        AskWoody Plus

        I have a question on metering.  Why does turning metering on trigger Windows Updates to run and metering off does not?  I keep seeing this mentioned as the method to tell Windows to look for updates.  What exactly does metering do for PC and WiFi besides limit data you can use?

        • #2343312
          b
          AskWoody MVP

          Most windows updates will not download automatically when metered connection is turned on:

          Metered connections in Windows 10

          • #2343318
            blueboy714
            AskWoody Plus

            Most windows updates will not download automatically when metered connection is turned on:

            Metered connections in Windows 10

            I had it backwards – not enough caffeine this morning.  I still don’t understand why metering ON will not trigger updates.  Is it because it limits data usage?

            • #2343323
              b
              AskWoody MVP

              Yes:

              Windows 10 is designed for PCs with unlimited Internet connections, and it normally uses as much of your download and upload bandwidth as it wants without asking. Setting a connection as metered puts you back in control, and it’s essential on some types of connections.

              You’ll always want to do this on connections with data caps, mobile hotspots, satellite Internet connections, dial-up connections, and anything else. It gives you more control over your connection and prevents Windows from gobbling bandwidth.

              How, When, and Why to Set a Connection as Metered on Windows 10

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