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      • #2213362 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        It’s been a strange patching month, with a Patch Tuesday, a Patch Thursday, the usual buggy “optional, non-security C/D Week” patch, a bonus fix for a
        [See the full post at: MS-DEFCON 3: Get the March 2020 patches installed]

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      • #2213394 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Which Windows 10 1903/1909 patch should we install?  KB4540673 was the original March Patch Tuesday update.  KB4551762 was the second security update issued two days later on Thursday.

        • #2213402 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          The latest one, offered by Windows Update (but NOT the C/D week patch KB 4541335).

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      • #2213408 Reply
        CyGuy
        AskWoody Plus

        PKCano, I did not have this question but I wanted to recognize you for your many contributions to the AskWoody site and say Thank You!

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      • #2213414 Reply
        CADesertRat
        AskWoody Plus

        Just updated my HP ProBook 450 G2 Laptop to 1909, 18363.720.

        Installed KB 4551762 (cum), MSRT, KB 4541338 (SSU that came with cum.), that’s all that was offered. Immediately afterward I used the “Pause for 7 Days” up to 35 days.

        3 more computers to do, hopefully all will be as smooth as Laptop 🙂

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
        4 Win 10 Pro at 1909 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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        • #2223342 Reply
          CADesertRat
          AskWoody Plus

          Finished the rest of the computers, no problems.

          Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
          4 Win 10 Pro at 1909 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

      • #2213426 Reply
        chilton
        AskWoody Plus

        I installed Windows 10 on a newly built computer on March 8.

        I’m not seeing the March update and I think I should be seeing it with given my settings, e.g. not paused.

        KB4537572 was waiting to be installed this morning.

        Is it possible that the Windows install on March 8 included what was released on Patch Tuesday, two days later?

        Thanks.

         

        • #2213429 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          The install would not have access to updates. that had not yet been released.

          Do you have Home or Pro?
          Do you have any deferrals set?
          Have you hidden any updates?
          Do you have Metered connections ON?
          Do you have any third-party update blockers installed?
          Looked under “Installed updates.” What the latest CU and SSU installed?

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          • #2213446 Reply
            chilton
            AskWoody Plus

            Do you have Home or Pro? Pro
            Do you have any deferrals set? No
            Have you hidden any updates?  No
            Do you have Metered connections ON? No
            Do you have any third-party update blockers installed? No
            Looked under “Installed updates.” What the latest CU and SSU installed?

            KB4537572 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10 Version 1903 and Windows Server 1903 RTM and Windows 10, version 1909 and Windows Server, version 1909

            Current view of WU attached.

            Thanks.

            Windows-update

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            • #2213450 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              Looked under “Installed updates,” not Update History. What the latest CU and SSU installed?

              • #2213493 Reply
                chilton
                AskWoody Plus

                From Installed Updates: KB4551762 was installed on 3/19/2020.

                Is there a good reason why installed updates aren’t listed in history?

                KB4537572 is listed in both places.

        • #2213465 Reply
          CADesertRat
          AskWoody Plus

          @chilton,

          On the Windows Update page you should have a “Pause for 7 Days” link. click it once and then you should get a “Resume Updates” button. click it and Windows Update will run immediately to see if you have any new updates pending.

          This should have gone as a reply but it put my response at the bottom unless all these other post’s were replies??

          Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
          4 Win 10 Pro at 1909 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

          • This reply was modified 1 month, 4 weeks ago by CADesertRat.
      • #2213428 Reply
        Charlie
        AskWoody Plus

        I saw where Susan said it was okay to get the Office updates. I have one showing in WU for Word in Office 2010.  I’m taking it as okay to install it based on Susan’s post.

        Win 7 Still Alive, x64, Intel i3-2120 3.3GHz, Linux Mint 19.1

      • #2213427 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        I went ahead an installed the Match 2020 KBs for my Windows 10(1809) Home laptop and have not had any issues so that update was installed on 03-30-2020 and I also updated my Windows Defender virus/other definitions and hope that that included the fix for any skipped files scans in Defender as well.

        So now onto April where 1809 is on borrowed time and I do hope that MS does not push out 2004 until after 1809 is EOL because I’m being offered 1909 as the current feature update but because the 1903/1909(Feature update) still has issues that I’m hoping may be better resolved before 1809 goes EOL(May 12 2020).  And that leaves April’s patches as the last month’s patching for 1809 and May’s patch Tuesday is also the same date as 1809’s EOL(for consumers). And maybe by May 2020 those 1903/1909 issues will be fully fixed.

        I really do not want to be forced to jump from 1809 directly to 2004 and skip an entire feature upgrade in the process and 1909 is not going EOL for consumers until May 11 2021. Graphics drivers are a big issue as well as WiFi and other hardware drivers on laptops and end users unable to update hardware on laptops as easily as Desktops. So it’s always advisable to wait a good few months before even considering any brand new feature release such as 2004 on laptops and my laptop actually shipped with Windows 10 1803 Home when I first purchased and booted the laptop for the first time. So the OEM only actually tested and vetted/certified that laptop for 10/1803 Home.

        • #2213443 Reply
          Alex5723
          AskWoody Plus

          my laptop actually shipped with Windows 10 1803 Home when I first purchased and booted the laptop for the first time. So the OEM only actually tested and vetted/certified that laptop for 10/1803 Home.

          My laptop also shipped with 1803 and since then the OEM has updated BIOS, Intel firmware, utilities, battery..

          I blocked drivers updates and download them manually from hardware vendor’s sites.

          I am now on 1909 Feb. updates with zero problems and will install Mar. updates as Woody just gave the go-ahead.

          Woody advised  to update to 1909.

      • #2213448 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        PKCano- KB4551762 the march cumulative update is the latest update to install right? Just to clarify and it isn’t the one with the VPN disconnect bug correct?

        • #2213455 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          KB4551762 is the correct update. There is an out-of-band update for the VPN bug, but the recommendation is to NOT install it unless you are affected. It is MS Catalog doenload/manual install only. See this thread.

      • #2213458 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        I have 1909Pro and this is confusing to me. KB4540673 was installed along with MSRT and now kb4551762 is offered. Should I uninstall kb4540673 and then install kb4551762 or just install kb4551762 after kb4540673

        Thanks

        • #2213462 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          kb4551762 replaces KB4540673. You should let Windows Update install it (you don’t have to uninstall anything).

      • #2213463 Reply
        agoldhammer
        AskWoody Plus

        I build a new workstation and did a fresh Windows Pro install on March 12 using the MSFT install tool of that day.  I always set the updates to delay by 15-16 days.  Yesterday it showed KB4551762 only so I went ahead and installed it.  No issues at all.  Today, I see an update for NetFramework:  KB4537572  I’m not sure this is anything mission critical that needs to be installed right now.

        • #2213467 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          I think the .NET patches for the last couple of months have only been non-security. So no rush.

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      • #2213477 Reply
        redknight
        AskWoody Plus

        I have Win7 ESU.  Is KB4540688 ok to install?

        • #2213483 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          There haven’t been any reports otherwise about KB4540688. You will also need the SSU KB4550735.

          • #2213509 Reply
            redknight
            AskWoody Plus

            Updated 3 machines with both KB’s.

            • This reply was modified 1 month, 4 weeks ago by redknight.
            • #2223519 Reply
              alpha128
              AskWoody Plus

              I installed the March Servicing Stack update (KB4550735) and 2020-03 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB4540688) back on March 20th and have had no issues.

      • #2213482 Reply
        Julia
        AskWoody Plus

        PKCano, I did not have this question but I wanted to recognize you for your many contributions to the AskWoody site and say Thank You!

        + 1

        And special thanks to be one of the reliable profiles which tries to keep this site on track…

        I – for my part – find it quite difficult nowadays to wade through all those non-tech topics here at Askwoody…

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      • #2213497 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        PKCano-Should I install  KB4551762 or not? Or should I just leave it alone just in case-ya know play it safe

        https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4551762/windows-10-update-kb4551762

        Because this KB is from March 12th and I don’t know if the one I his is an updated one or the 12th of march one.

        • #2213500 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          See #2213462 above

          • #2213504 Reply
            anonymous
            Guest

            Okay so let WIndows Update install it, but I have KB4551762 HIDDEN on WUShowHide. So I should Unhide it or keep it hidden? JUST TO CLARIFY. OTHERWISE Don’t install it if your not sure. i just want to know please.

            • #2213513 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              kb4551762 replaces KB4540673. You should let Windows Update install it (you don’t have to uninstall anything).

              You can’t install an update that’s hidden. That says to install it. I think that means you have to unhide it to do so. “JUST TO CLARIFY.”

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      • #2213501 Reply
        DriftyDonN
        AskWoody Plus

        should optional update

        2020-03 cumulative update for 1909 64 bit kb4541335 be installed?

        "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

        • #2213502 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          To quote Woody’s ComputerWorld article:

          If you see a come-on for the “optional, non-security, C/D Week” patch KB 4541335 (screenshot), simply ignore it. There’s absolutely nothing in that patch that you need or want, and it’s causing all sorts of problems.

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      • #2213517 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Windows 8.1 here. Updated just now with the 2 updates plus the service stack update. Everything seems to be running normal so far.

      • #2213529 Reply
        Bundaburra
        AskWoody Plus

        I waited for 14 days before installing the March updates.  During that time I saw an advice saying that KB4551762 was replacing KB4540673.  When I eventually came to download and install, I received KB4540673 but not KB4551762.  I am still not being offered KB4551762.  Do I need it?  Not having any problems.

        Windows 10 Pro 64 bit 1909

        • #2213531 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          KB4551762 fixes an SMB3 vulnerability.

        • #2213541 Reply
          b
          AskWoody Plus

          I received KB4540673 but not KB4551762.

          KB4540673 is the latest cumulative update, so you do not need KB4551762.

          Windows 10 Pro Version 2004: Group ASAP (Pioneer/Chump)

          • #2213543 Reply
            PKCano
            Da Boss

            Do you have that backwards? I believe KB4540673 was issued on 3/10 and then replaced by KB4551762 on 3/12 as a fix for the SMB-3 vuln.

            • #2213547 Reply
              b
              AskWoody Plus

              Yep, sorry. I confused the numbers.

              I wish Woody had identified beyond “Install the latest Win10 March Cumulative Update”.

              Windows 10 Pro Version 2004: Group ASAP (Pioneer/Chump)

        • #2223350 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          That update (Patch Thursday) was offered to me last month (15 days after release as per my deferral settings) but I clicked pause, and now, after 7 days, it’s gone.

      • #2213589 Reply

        OK….this was by far one of the the least eventful patching sessions, no double-booting, either. (!?) Installed:

        2020-03 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB4540688)

        Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – March 2020 (KB890830)

        Rebooted, checked again, and was offered, and took:

        2020-03 Servicing Stack Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB4550735)

        …all of which took 35 minutes, 10 minutes off the old record. Probably the new RAM expansion helped.

        No issues so far.

        BTW, should I be posting these reports here, on Win 7 ESU, or both?

        Win7 Pro SP1 64-bit ESU, Dell Latitude E6330, Intel CORE i5 "Ivy Bridge", Group "Patch List", Multiple Air-Gapped backup drives in different locations, "Don't auto-check for updates-Full Manual Mode."
        --
        "A committee is the only known form of life that has at least six legs and no brain."

        -Robert Heinlein

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      • #2213612 Reply
        GeoffB
        AskWoody Plus

        I recently went through  the feature update on my Win 10 1809 home laptop and I’m now on 1909 home.  When I went through the feature update, I had to temporarily disable my 3rd party a/v (Malwarebytes) and then re-enable after the successful feature update to 1909.

        So, will I have to temporarily disable Malwarebytes again so that the March updates will download & install smoothly?  Appreciate any advice on this.

         

        regards

        GeoffB

      • #2213615 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        So, will I have to temporarily disable Malwarebytes again so that the March updates will download & install smoothly?  Appreciate any advice on this

        I always disable my A/V service during the monthly Windows update as the A/V slows down the process considerably.
        The A/V is on by default after the restart.

        Just updated my Lenovo Y530 1909 Pro with March updates :
        KB4551762
        KB4541338
        KB890830

        No ill effects.

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        • #2214832 Reply
          GeoffB
          AskWoody Plus

          Followed your advice and temp disabled the 3rd party a/v.  Updates downloaded and installed smoothly.  Everything seems to be running well.

          regards

          GeoffB

      • #2213646 Reply
        TJ
        AskWoody Plus

        PKCano, I did not have this question but I wanted to recognize you for your many contributions to the AskWoody site and say Thank You!

        Indeed. Impressive relentless support.

        I figured this MS-DEFCON 3 advice was the right moment to update my 1809 Pro to 1909 Pro. I’m now on Build 18363.720.
        All went well, I think. Took about 40 minutes up to the last reboot.
        Last time I update from 1809 to 1903 my system seemed to be sluggish after that, so I reverted to 1809. This time Windows runs smoothly.

        All update history was deleted by the update and I now have two extra folders: Windows.old and Windows10Upgrade. If all stays well, I will delete them.

        The update left my gpedit.msc update settings as I had put them: deferral for 100/30 days.

        The only thing that was changed is that the update deleted Speccy, so that means going back to HWiNFO64.

        Thanks to @woody as well of course.

        BE SAFE

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      • #2213699 Reply
        bsfinkel
        AskWoody Lounger

        I have a quick question.  I have installed Windows 10 1909 in a new partition; Windows 7 is still my preferred system for a few more weeks.  On March 24, I installed (or technically Windows Update automatically installed) KB4551762.  I have read that this patch has been re-issued.  How do I know if I have the latest version installed?  Do I need to worry/care?  If I do not have the latest version, will Windows Update know and tell me what else I need to install the next time I check?  I see this as a problem with MS’s re-user of patch numbers.  Thanks.

        • #2213700 Reply
          Bluetrix
          AskWoody MVP

          I have read that this patch has been re-issued. How do I know if I have the latest version installed?

          KB4551762 was issued on 3/12 as a fix for the SMB-3 vulnerability.

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        • #2213702 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          The patch Tues KB4540673 (3/10) was replaced by KB4551762 on 3/12. KB4551762 has not been reissued.

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      • #2213710 Reply
        EP
        AskWoody_MVP

        woody & patch Lady Susan:

        this just came out on Softpedia news about KB4554364 causing a new network/internet connection problem:

        https://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-s-windows-10-network-bug-fixing-update-causes-a-network-bug-529628.shtml

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      • #2213729 Reply
        b
        AskWoody Plus

        Does not appear widespread. Just a few users? Confined to Italy?

        Could even be an April Fools’ prank:

        i and other MVP and Independents consultants were victim of a well-organized joke

        c:/windows/SyWOW64/AppIdPolicyEngineApi.dll Errors?

        Windows 10 Pro Version 2004: Group ASAP (Pioneer/Chump)

      • #2213838 Reply
        JD
        AskWoody Plus

        Windows 8.1 – Just installed the Mar. 10 Windows Update and Service Stack Update.  Running normal so far 🙂

        Group "A"- Win 8.1 x64

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      • #2213983 Reply
        Berserker79
        AskWoody Lounger

        Win10 1809 Home here: just reporting that I installed successfully the 2020-03 Cumulative update, Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – March 2020 (KB890830), the March patches for Word 2013 and Skype for Business all without any apparent issue.

        BTW, I’m sticking to 1809 for a little longer (any chance MS might delay EOL of 1809 due to the covid-19 situation?) before moving to 1909. I’m happy to rely on wushowhide to delay updates and I don’t feel that the “Pause Updates” feature really gives me that much more control. Also, it seems that 1903/1909 keeps getting its monthly load of annoying bugs (see e.g. the “disappearing profile” issue and the recent VPN issue) which makes me uncomfortable with updating from the (finally) sufficiently stable 1809.

        • #2213989 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          I don’t believe MS has any intention of extending 1809 EOL.
          You have two more months……..

      • #2213993 Reply
        Seff
        AskWoody Plus

        Just reporting in from home confinement in the UK – I hope all are staying safe and well in these unprecedented times.

        On my home desktop Windows 7 machine I installed the Office 2010 update 4484240 at the beginning of the week, and hid the MSRT. I will in due course upgrade this machine to Windows 10 but probably not until the current crisis is over (or at least eased).

        On my home desktop Windows 10 machine I installed yesterday the cumulative update 4451762, the .net framework update 4537572 and the MSRT. It took about 40 minutes with one restart.  I ignored the optional update 4541335.

        Fingers firmly crossed but no apparent issues as yet, and the the Windows 10 machine will now have updates paused.

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      • #2213999 Reply
        TJ
        AskWoody Plus

        I upgraded my 1809 Pro to 1909 Pro (see #2213646 above) and everything seems well.

        I just uninstalled Windows 10 Update Assistant using BCUninstaller, but 1 registry key was left over:

        Windows 10 Update Assistant | Microsoft Corporation | 1.4.9200.22925 | “C:\Windows10Upgrade\Windows10UpgraderApp.exe” /Uninstall | – Confidence: Questionable – HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce\Windows10UpgraderApp.exe

        Can I safely delete it?

      • #2214009 Reply
        Paul T
        AskWoody MVP

        RunOnce registry keys will be removed after the next boot / login so you can leave it.

        cheers, Paul

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      • #2214010 Reply
        bsfinkel
        AskWoody Lounger

        Why hide MSRT?  All it does, as far as I know, is replace \Windows\system32\mrt.exe and run it.  MRT is a tool that does a quick scan for malware (Malware Removal Tool).  I always install MRT as soon as I see it on Patch Tuesday.  I once tried to run it manually, and it had a problem.  The response on one of the computer fora was, “Don’t worry”.  MRT has never found a problem when I have run it.

        Another related issue – My weekly full MSE scan on Windows 7 last weekend had, in the MSE window where I was monitoring its progress, a yellow triangle with a message that some malware may have been found.  But when the scan finished, there was no notice of any malware having been found and quarantined.  I did not check for any MSE logs.

         

        • #2214016 Reply
          Seff
          AskWoody Plus

          Assuming your question about hiding MSRT is in response to my comment, MSRT never found any problems but created its own problem one time (and has done occasionally for others) so from then on I’ve not bothered with it. It’s not worth risking any further issues for no apparent benefit, the machine already being protected by other anti-virus/malware programs.

        • #2214227 Reply
          DrBonzo
          AskWoody Plus

          I’ve seen MSRT completely wipe out the add/remove services window in the control panel of a couple Win 7 Pro machines. I refuse to use it (MSRT) any more.

          I’ve also seen the yellow triangle in MSE on both long and short scans on a Win 7 Pro machine, along with the message there may be some potentially unwanted software, only to find at the end of the scan that no bad software was found. It happened right after an “upgrade” from Dell (Support Assist, I believe). A full scan with the safety scanner (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-protection/intelligence/safety-scanner-download) which I believe uses essentially the same definitions as MSE, turned up nothing. I think the issue is an artifact of the Dell “upgrade”.

      • #2214011 Reply
        TJ
        AskWoody Plus

        Thanks, @Paul-t. Good to know that for a next time.

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      • #2214161 Reply
        dmt_3904
        AskWoody Plus

        I got the March updates today – KB4551762, MSRT, Defender – all fine.  But I also got Intel – net 8/26/2019 12:00 AM 20.70.12.5

        I have searched, but cannot identify what this is or if I should install it.  Any ideas?  I have “Pending Download” button, but was thinking I could hide the Intel download, if necessary. thanks!

        • #2214167 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          You need wushowhide.diagcab to hide an update. Doenload it from Microsoft.

          • #2214180 Reply
            dmt_3904
            AskWoody Plus

            I have wushowhide, but I don’t know if I should hide the Intel update.

            • #2214186 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              I have not installed any of the Intel microcode patches, if that is what you are referring to. but you also have something about net(?). Is that .NET?  You don mention any KB number for reference.

              • #2214198 Reply
                dmt_3904
                AskWoody Plus

                It’s just intel net. No KB.  It says:

                Intel – net – 8/26/2019 12:00:00 AM – 20.70.12.5

                (I don’t know how to insert a screen shot here).

              • #2214201 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                That may be a network driver for an Intel device. Our recommendation is to get the driver updates from the computer mfg or the device OEM and not through Windows Update. I would say hide it.

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              • #2214215 Reply
                dmt_3904
                AskWoody Plus

                I hid it, but it’s still there.  How can I hide something that’s already in Windows Update?

                It is a driver. I think for Bluetooth.  I have version 21.10.1.1 so I def don’t want to go backwards!

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              • #2214222 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                AKB2000013 explains how to clear the Windows Update queue so the update that shows there does  not download and install.

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              • #2223247 Reply
                dmt_3904
                AskWoody Plus

                I see the procedure for wushowhide, but I don’t see AKB2000013 to clear the Queue.  Where is AKB2000013 ? Is that in Lars220 reply? Sorry, I’m just confused, again!  I have cleared my update queue before and it wiped out everything  Maybe I am misreading the sentence after ‘Or’ in your response.  How do I clear the Q for that one update?  Or I clear & once updates are hidden, they will not download next time?

                SO you can EITHER wait until WU checks for updates again on its own (may take upwards of 36 hours) at which time it will not find the ones you hid OR you can use the procedure in AKB2000013 to clear the queue of the hidden updates so you can download/install the ones you want.

              • #2223248 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                You can find AKB2000013 by clicking on the link in the above post. If you use it, you need to follow the instructions exactly, no just some of them.

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              • #2223255 Reply
                dmt_3904
                AskWoody Plus

                ok, but the updates are already in my Q.  So do I follow your response to KYKaren on February 13, 2020 at 6:09 pm ?

                Do you first use wushowhide by itself, and THEN IF the ones you think you have hidden still appear in the queue, you use the directions in ABK2000013, which include using wushowhide again?

                First, you look at the queue. Is there anything there you do NOT want?
                If the answer is “NO” you are good to click on “Download.”.
                If the answer is “YES” you use wushowhide to hide the ones you don’t want.

                BUT what you see in the queue will not change to reflect the ones you hid until WU checks for updates again. So the ones you hid are still listed when you look in WU. If you click the “Download” button at this point, the ones you see in the queue will download/install (including the ones you hid if they still appear there there).

                SO you can EITHER wait until WU checks for updates again on its own (may take upwards of 36 hours) at which time it will not find the ones you hid OR you can use the procedure in AKB2000013 to clear the queue of the hidden updates so you can download/install the ones you want.

              • #2223257 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                I think you have pretty well covered the procedure, but it is written out in AKB2000013 in as good a detail as I can give. I will not repeat it all again here. You should follow the the procedure in AKB2000013 exactly.

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      • #2214229 Reply
        TJ
        AskWoody Plus

        I noticed this evening that (after having updated from 1809 to 1909 two days ago) websites took a long time to load -both in Firefox and Edge- when on a vpn connection. Turns out Windows/the update put its own Wireguard tunnel driver in place of Wireguard’s own driver.

        Reinstalling the vpn solved that, but it’s worrying that the update overruled gpedit’s “Don’t include drivers” setting. :-{

      • #2219032 Reply
        JD
        AskWoody Plus

        I don’t believe MS has any intention of extending 1809 EOL.
        You have two more months……..

        Actually, isn’t it less than that since EOL is May 12?

        Group "A"- Win 8.1 x64

        • #2219510 Reply
          b
          AskWoody Plus

          Yes, but two more patch Tuesdays.

          Windows 10 Pro Version 2004: Group ASAP (Pioneer/Chump)

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      • #2223209 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        The only thing that was changed is that the update deleted Speccy

        So download Speccy again. This time use Portable version (I have it on my 1909 Pro)

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        • #2223210 Reply
          TJ
          AskWoody Plus

          You’re right. I forgot I also had the portable version somewhere.
          I prefer Speccy’s easy overview.

      • #2223267 Reply
        Sumit
        AskWoody Lounger

        Looks like an update broke Camera access to apps. The most common error seen is <NoCamerasAreAttached>

        I did troubleshooting with a number of people and it was seen that the Camera device even vanished from the Device Manager.

        An Example with 127+ votes.

        https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/the-camera-app-on-my-laptop-is-not-working-windows/4c729312-338f-4e97-9bb4-50459a033d83

        Another thread with 88 votes:

        https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/camera-in-windows-10-not-working/4eb7c47b-6846-48d6-988e-c8845cda6998?page=3

        I think it is related to the “D” release. Not sure, though.

         

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        • #2254834 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          Do you know what update broke the camera? We are having this issue pop up with a few users.

      • #2223355 Reply
        280park
        AskWoody Plus

        Re: Driver and Microcode Updates Included in Windows 10 Updates – Install or Not?

        Woody – The general consensus of those who post on AskWoody seems to be that driver updates and microcode updates should be obtained from the device manufacturer’s website and the ones that are included with Windows Update should not be installed. In your ComputerWorld articles that greenlight monthly updates I have not seen any discussion of whether to install driver and microcode updates that Microsoft includes with Windows Update. Can you provide some guidance?

        I have read extensively the discussions on this website about using Group Policy Editor and wushowhide to control updates but I have not used them and my understanding is that you generally don’t recommend using Group Policy Editor.

        I purchased my computer in January with Windows 10 version 1809 installed and subsequently updated to versions 1903 and 1909. My Windows Update history indicates 28 drivers were installed on March 3 and everything seems to working fine.

        Thanks.

        • #2223359 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Our recommendation is that you obtain the driver updates from your computer mfg or the device mfg, not through Windows Update.
          Whether you install the microcode updates or not is up to you. Personally, I have installed none of them.
          See AKB2000016 A Guide for Windows Update Settings for Windows 10.I have given an explanation of the different settings available for both Home and Pro versions. There is an example in the Win10 Pro settings that I use. Woody recommends that Home Users use Pause to delay updates (see his ComputerWorld Articles).

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        anonymous
        Guest

        I have Windows 10 Pro ver 1903. I just installed KB 4551762. Things went smoothly until I went to reset my settings for deferring updates. First, I paused updates in Updates & Security>Windows Update, but when I went to Advanced Options, I did not see the options to set the deferred days for featured and quality updates – they aren’t there anymore. Did this update do away with this choice? Do we now have to use wushowhide to block feature updates?

        • #2232133 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          First, I paused updates in Updates & Security>Windows Update, but when I went to Advanced Options, I did not see the options to set the deferred days for featured and quality updates – they aren’t there anymore. Did this update do away with this choice? Do we now have to use wushowhide to block feature updates?

          The deferral settings are still available, but other settings you have made have probably made them inactive. If you have set any deferrals in Group Policy, the settings in the GUI will disappear and not be available. Also, the use of Pause may have an effect on their appearance.

          There is an explanation of the settings related to Windows Update in both the GUI and Group Policy, and their interaction, in AKB2000016. There are also illustrations and an example of use for Win10 Pro. If you have questions, there is a Comments thread available.

        • #2232132 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          Sorry…..I just answered my own questions. I was not in my Administrator Account – I was in my User Account.

      • #2240608 Reply
        Mike W
        AskWoody Lounger

        Windows 10 Pro – 1903

        I need to install the March 2020 Windows 10 Cumulative Update because I’ve had Windows Updates paused until now.  NOTE – I’m using the default Windows Update that came with Windows 10 and have not (yet) changed any Windows Update Settings per AKB 2000016.

        Windows Update is not offering any March 2020 Windows 10 Cumulative Updates.  The Microsoft Update Catalog offers four March 2020 Windows 10 updates.

        I’ve read this blog and Woody’s Computerworld article in detail.  I plan to take the following actions based on the available information:

        KB4540673 (Issued 3/10) – Do not install because it has been superseded by KB4551762

        KB4551762 (Issued 3/12) – Install manually because it supersedes KB4540673

        KB4541335 – Do not install because it is the Week C/D Update

        KB4554364 – Do not install because I don’t use a VPN and it causes WiFi network/internet connection problems.

        Please confirm that my plan to manually install KB4551762 is correct.

        I hope you don’t mind me asking for this confirmation regarding the information already posted.

        Thank you to PKCano for all of your on-going support and advice.

        • #2240613 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Before you install the CU KB4551762 manually, you need to install the Mar Servicing Stack KB4541338. It normally is bundled with the CU if you use Windows Update and you never see it, But if you install manually, the current SSU needs to be installed first and by itself.

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        Mike W
        AskWoody Lounger

        Thank you, PKCano.

        When I attempted to install the Windows Servicing Stack KB4541338 , a new message stated that it was already installed even though Windows Updates does NOT list it as installed.  This prompted me to learn about and review Installed Updates for the first time ever.  KB4541338 is listed as installed in Installed Updates but not Windows Updates. Furthermore, the March 2020 Windows 10 Cumulative Update KB4551762 is listed as installed in Installed Updates but not Windows Updates.  Windows apparently installed these two updates on March 30 without my knowledge while my Windows Update Pause was inadvertently turned off.  This situation raises the following questions:

        (1) Why do Windows Updates and Installed Updates include different information?

        (2) Why are some but not all updates listed in Windows Updates?

        (3) Why are some but not all updates listed in Installed Updates?

        (4) Are only updates that I initiate listed in Windows Updates?

        NOTE: I was a happy Windows 7 user for seven years until Windows 7 EOS in January 2020.  I bought and commissioned a new Windows 10 computer in February 2020 so I’m just learning Windows 10.  Windows 10 does not include many Windows 7 user-friendly features.  The Windows 7 Windows Update was easy to use.  The Windows 10 Windows Update design is awful.  The default design does not permit you to download but not install updates.  Updates are automatically installed as soon as they are downloaded.  I guess I’m going to have to implement AKB 200016 to regain Windows 7 type control over my Windows Updates.  I’m hoping the AKB 2000016 instruction are easy to accomplish.

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          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Welcome to Windows 10 🙂

          AKB2000016 MAY help you (if anything can with Win10 🙂 ).
          Also, be sure to read Woody’s ComputerWorld article for DEFCON-3 today linked at the end of the blogpost. Follow the links therein for more explanation. That is also helpful.

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      • #2240790 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        How many are skipping install KB 4541505 since it contains DiagTrack service component (AKA Unified Telemetry Client)?

        I will be skipping it and will hope that next month update does not have telemetry.

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