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      • #2268278 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        Although there have been screaming headlines about bugs in May’s patches, neither Susan nor I have detected any pattern – with two exceptions. We’re s
        [See the full post at: MS-DEFCON 4: Get the May 2020 patches installed now]

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      • #2268315 Reply
        John
        AskWoody Lounger

        Knock on wood I have had good luck with all my devices running Windows 10 1909. I’ve basically lost all interest in feature upgrades anymore, they seem rather mundane and not anything that demands I immediately install it. I’ll wait for the dust to settle, before I consider installing. Yeah everything has been good with May updates, have not seen any of the reported issues.

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      • #2268335 Reply
        rc primak
        AskWoody_MVP

        Getting ready for MS Updates on a Win 10 Pro 1909 Intel NUC with a Realtek sound driver. MS Updates can mess with Realtek drivers. I frequently find myself after an update, going to the Intel Drivers and Support Assistant utility and downloading and reinstalling the Realtek sound driver.  The difference this time seems to be how much more widespread reports of difficulties with Realtek drivers and the current Win 10 1909 CU. Something seems to be going on here which is different. I’ll post if my own experience mover the next week or so sheds any light on this issue.

        -- rc primak

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        • #2268422 Reply
          geekdom
          AskWoody Plus

          Intel Drivers and Support Assistant utility

          A very nice easy-to-use tool. Thanks.

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          • #2268545 Reply
            Mele20
            AskWoody Lounger

            A very nice easy-to-use tool. Thanks.

            Not for me. I just installed it on Windows 10 1809 Pro and got an error that it was being blocked when I tried to run it. Intel’s FAQ on this said only one thing causes this problem. Supposedly, I am using a proxy server. NOPE.

            So, I uninstalled it. I should have known not to even try it as most Intel stuff is very buggy and doesn’t work right. Probably, it just hates my default browser which I LOVE and I have no interest in trying a different browser.

      • #2268366 Reply
        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        SQMR for Windows 8.1 installed on 17th May, absolutely no issues to report. W8.1 FTW!

        Security Update for Windows (KB4556846)
        Installation date: ‎17/‎05/‎2020 15:42
        Installation status: Succeeded
        Update type: Important
        Fix for KB4556846

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      • #2268404 Reply
        Purg2
        AskWoody Lounger

        2020-05 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.5.2, 4.6, 4.6.1, 4.6.2, 4.7, 4.7.1, 4.7.2, 4.8 for Windows 8.1 and Server 2012 R2 for x64 (KB4556401), published 051220.

        Shows up as important 75.3 MB on action center/windows updater.

        Nothing about this anywhere in the forums or computerworld.  A quick status update would be most appreciated.

        Win 8.1 Group B, Linux Dabbler

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      • #2268405 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        I installed the Windows 10 2004 update today on my Dell XPS 8930. It took some time and my system was not happy at first. It turned out to be an Intel Optane issue. It is an easy fix! Go to the Control Panel, Programs and Features and right click on it. Do NOT uninstall it! Click Repair and it should be fine. If not, right click again and click Change. Some people said the update took only a few minutes but it took quite awhile on mine. It settled down and all is well. 🙂

         

        • #2268547 Reply
          Mele20
          AskWoody Lounger

          I have a Dell XPS 8930 but no Optane. I had no problems with this update.

      • #2268413 Reply
        CADesertRat
        AskWoody Plus

        I installed the updates on 2 of my computers so far. One is AMD 2700x, the other an Intel i7-3770 (W7 upgraded to W10 some time ago). So far no problems seen with Realtek audio or the missing profile issue, at least on these 2 computers. I’m a bit leary of my HP ProBook laptop but have a cloned drive to go in if necessary.

        1- KB 4497165 Intel Microcode (as usual my AMD got it also, LOL)

        2- KB 4552931 .NET 3.5/4.8

        3- MSRT

        4- KB 4556799 Cum. 1909 18363.836

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
        4 Win 10 Pro at 1909 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

        • #2268747 Reply
          CADesertRat
          AskWoody Plus

          Finished the rest of computers including the HP laptop with no ill effects as far as I can see so far.

          Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
          4 Win 10 Pro at 1909 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

      • #2268415 Reply
        ymo1965
        AskWoody Lounger

        Simple request but why do M$ keep releasing these patches/updates when they are clearly not ready. Why should we be their beta testers? I just don’t trust them. If it wasn’t for VR support I would probably be using Linux by now.

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      • #2268420 Reply
        PlantMan
        AskWoody Plus

        Just installed the May 2020 patch, and now get the message shown below when I open MS File Explorer.

        Anybody else notice this problem?

        MS-File-Explorer-problem

         

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        • #2268435 Reply
          Microfix
          AskWoody MVP

          would the answer/fix to this issue lay in this post above #2268405

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      • #2268447 Reply

        OK, folks, this one shows up as “unchecked-important”;

        2020-05 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 3.5.1, 4.5.2, 4.6, 4.6.1, 4.6.2, 4.7, 4.7.1, 4.7.2, 4.8 for Windows 7 for x64 (KB4556399)

        Susan gives it the green light, but I NEVER install anything unchecked or optional.

        …and yes, I have the latest May KBXXXXX483.

        As Groucho might say, “Any questions? Any answers?”

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        • #2268448 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Hold off till next week and maybe it will be checked on Patch Tues?

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          • #2268609 Reply

            Yuppers…installed the Monthly rollup and MSRT, rechecked WU, and good old 399 was still there, “Important”, unchecked waiting for me.

            No way, Jose. Back in the box! Bad Dog, er, Patch!

            2020-05 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 3.5.1, 4.5.2, 4.6, 4.6.1, 4.6.2, 4.7, 4.7.1, 4.7.2, 4.8 for Windows 7 for x64 (KB4556399)

            Download size: 65.2 MB

            Update type: Important

            Bananas.

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        • #2268451 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          From the AKB 20…04 article.

          Step A1: Get your settings right.

          In Win7, click Start > Control Panel. In Win 8.1, press Win-X and choose Control Panel. Click System and Security. Under Windows Update, click the link marked “Turn automatic updating on or off.” Make sure Windows Update is set to “Never check for updates (not recommended),” then check the boxes marked “Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates” and “Give me updates for Microsoft products and check for new optional Microsoft software when I update Windows.” Click OK.

          Using that setting marked in bold means you may see optional updates that are recommended listed on your important update tab. It would be indicated by italicized text. But that does not make it an important update. I recommend the failsafe rule, do not request unticked updates. Either change your settings so that you do not see it, or as PKCano advises wait for the WU to change its mind.

      • #2268449 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Windows 10 1909 Pro. Legion Y530.
        Installed May 2020 Patches.
        May CU, .Net, MSRT.
        No Intel Microcode.

        Everything is fine including video/sound (Intel, Mvidia, Realtek).

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      • #2268452 Reply
        rick41
        AskWoody Plus

        (Don’t know why the original of this post disappeared after an edit, but I had saved a copy as I normally do as a precaution on forums.  Sorry if this turns out to be a duplicate.)

        Patched 3 Win7 paid-ESU machines, including the .NET security/quality update KB4556399. (I wonder if I should have bypassed the .NET update as it was unticked, even though it’s listed as important??).

        Anyway, all went fine except for a minor annoyance that used to pop up every once in awhile, namely that WMP had to be set up anew on all 3 machines (easy to do as all the old settings and associations are retained except the frequency of checks for updates to WMP).

        Fyi, I still have the original February install of KB4538483, rather than the May revision that some apparently deemed essential for successful continued ESU updating. I figured that perhaps it wasn’t offered to me because MS determined my systems didn’t need it, and also I wanted to see what would — or wouldn’t — happen if I avoided it. So I didn’t head over to the catalog to download and install KB4538483. Any opinions on whether I should now download and install it anyway, just as a precaution against any possible future issues?

         

        • #2268459 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          On your closing question regarding KB4538483. You have not manually installed a newer version since February. Have you looked at View Installed Updates, after allowing the progress bar to fully populate from a new scan? Does that item still indicate the installed date you expect to see? If it shows a newer, even today’s, date instead then this item has been updated automatically. Remember View Installed Updates gives different information than Update History. What does your system report?

          • #2268527 Reply
            rick41
            AskWoody Plus

            Interesting suggestion.  But when I check View Installed Updates it shows 2/13/20 as the install date for KB4538483, same as Update History.

        • #2268703 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          rick41 wrote:
          Fyi, I still have the original February install of KB4538483, rather than the May revision that some apparently deemed essential for successful continued ESU updating.

          Under “Patch Win7” in his Computerworld article, woody wrote: “Make sure you follow all of the steps at the bottom of KB 4556836, the May Monthly Rollup Knowledge Base article.” And the steps at the bottom of the referenced KB4556836 support page clearly say to install “The Extended Security Updates (ESU) Licensing Preparation Package (KB4538483) released February 11, 2020” – not the recently-updated version of the patch.

          So is installation of the updated version of KB4538483 needed, and this is a documentation oversight by Microsoft that woody maybe didn’t notice or choose to flag?

          Or is the updated version of KB4538483 not needed (yet), and woody doesn’t think that Win7 ESU patchers should download and install it (at this time)?

          Thanks woody, et al.

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          • #2268777 Reply
            anonymous
            Guest

            I have the same question regarding the different versions of KB4538483, and also a question about older SSUs that I missed installing.

            The February 2020 SSU KB4537829 is not installed on my Win7 laptop (not present in Control Panel>Installed Updates), but when I try to install it using the Windows Update Standalone Installer I’m told that the update is not applicable to my computer.

            For whatever reason, I do have the March 2020 SSU KB4550735 installed. Does the newer March SSU supersede the February SSU? Is the February SSU necessary if I have March and will now install the April and May 2020 SSUs?

            Note that I am unable to uninstall the March 2020 SSU (through Control Panel) to see if that will allow the February SSU to install. If absolutely necessary, I should be able to use one of my OS backups to move back prior to the installation of the March SSU, but would prefer not to do that if the February SSU is not necessary.

            Thanks.

          • #2268967 Reply
            abbodi86
            AskWoody_MVP

            this is a documentation oversight by Microsoft that woody maybe didn’t notice or choose to flag?

            Or is the updated version of KB4538483 not needed (yet)?

            Yes, the the updated version of KB4538483 is not “mandatory” yet, either of the two versions will work

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            • #2268979 Reply
              anonymous
              Guest

              Thank you so much abbodi86 for replying and clearly answering the question posed, and for so very generously sharing your expertise with all of us.

      • #2268500 Reply

        From the AKB 20…04 article.

        Step A1: Get your settings right.

        In Win7, click Start > Control Panel. In Win 8.1, press Win-X and choose Control Panel. Click System and Security. Under Windows Update, click the link marked “Turn automatic updating on or off.” Make sure Windows Update is set to “Never check for updates (not recommended),” then check the boxes marked “Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates” and “Give me updates for Microsoft products and check for new optional Microsoft software when I update Windows.” Click OK.

        Using that setting marked in bold means you may see optional updates that are recommended listed on your important update tab. It would be indicated by italicized text. But that does not make it an important update. I recommend the failsafe rule, do not request unticked updates. Either change your settings so that you do not see it, or as PKCano advises wait for the WU to change its mind.

        OK; Did as you said; the dialog boxes to get there are a little different, but brought up the same box/menu as when I just pull up “Windows Update”, but I did it, and this is what I got after a check:

        updates-1

        This looked worse than my original settings:

        original-settings

        So I put the settings back to their original state, checked again, and got this:

        updates-2

        Frankly, the original settings I had seem to result in less clutter, and yours seem to add clutter, and the .Net update box remains unchecked in either case.

        Anyone else?

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      • #2268522 Reply
        Mr. Natural
        AskWoody Plus

        With all due respect, from a corporate view. I approved all the May updates for servers and all desktops except for the May update for Windows 10 1909 and 1903. Another one will be coming soon no doubt. Home users will be ok with the update so disregard my post. Baghdad Bob says nothing to see here for you folks at home.

        Red Ruffnsore reporting from the front lines.

      • #2268566 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        No doubt, they test extensively. But, there’s no way they could possibly account for every custom built box out there running a mix of new and (essentially) obsolete hardware.

        Moderator note: Removed HTML, please check post in TEXT TAB before posting.

      • #2268568 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Windows 8.1 here. 3 updates with no problems.

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      • #2268572 Reply
        JD
        AskWoody Plus

        May patches installed with no problems to report on Win 8.1 🙂

        Installation Successful: Windows successfully installed the following update: 2020-05 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 8.1 for x64-based Systems (KB4556846)

        Installation Successful: Windows successfully installed the following update: 2020-05 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.5.2, 4.6, 4.6.1, 4.6.2, 4.7, 4.7.1, 4.7.2, 4.8 for Windows 8.1 and Server 2012 R2 for x64 (KB4556401)

        Group "A"- Win 8.1 x64
        Win 10 ver. 1909 x64

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        • #2268639 Reply
          DrBonzo
          AskWoody Plus

          Same here – SMQR and .NET Rollup installed with no issues.

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      • #2268620 Reply
        Berserker79
        AskWoody Lounger

        Windows 10 1809 Home here, just reporting that I installed the following May patches without any (apparent) issue on my system:
        – 2020-05 Cumulative update KB4551853 for Version 1809;
        – 2020-05 Cumulative Update KB4556441 for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.7.2 and 4.8;
        – Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool 5.82 KB890830.

        BTW, with the above I also installed:
        – KB4484289 – Update for Skype for Business 2015;
        – KB4484365 – Security update for Excel 2013.

      • #2268651 Reply
        JLamede
        AskWoody Plus

        The latest alert –‘ An unusually good month for installing updates’.

        I’m sorry guys, but even a cursory search shows recent serious warnings about the dangers of KB4556799. Gordon Kelly says, ‘..steer well clear…’. Robert Zak: ‘…this update is one of the worst Windows 10 updates to date’. I apply the precautionary principle, not least because my own experience of this Windows 10 blight when it all kicked off was beyond appalling.

        Sorry! It’s just not on!

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        • #2268652 Reply
          geekdom
          AskWoody Plus

          First-hand reports of updates, whether good or ill, are welcome here. What are the details of your difficulties with the latest update? Or alternately, the last update you applied?

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          • #2268657 Reply
            JLamede
            AskWoody Plus

            Thanks! That’s the point: I don’t as yet have any first-hand reports since, in applying the precautionary principle, I have to take account of other people’s critical reports including, as it happens, Woody’s own reports of bugs in current patches. Taking those on board, I’d be very foolish to apply the patches — not least because my first experience of all this entailed a total of five whole days spent negotiating with MS techs and putting right disastrous crashes. And, by the way, dealing with a senior MS tech who opined (in complete contradiction of MS’s own classic marketing) that the faults lay in out-of-date hardware, subsequently proved to be a tendentious falsehood. My last update/patching? 8 May 2020.

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      • #2268688 Reply
        JCpharm
        AskWoody Lounger

        Updated May patches with no issues. Had to take the first computer off line while updating.  Was not hostage to holding our breath too long. MS did well this time around.

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      • #2268722 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Windows 10(1809) Home Laptop(Ryzen 5 3550H and Radeon RX560X diecrete mobile GPU) and took all the May 2020 updates and no issues so far. And the laptop is still only being offered the 1909 feature update and not 2004 currently. Now to wait for 10/2004 to be out for a few months to see if there are any issues with 10/2004 like there are with 10 1903/1909(cursed editions).

        So maybe 10/2004 will have a little more stability and I’ll skip 1903/1909 entirely, Maybe!

         

        • #2269259 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          Installed all eligible updates (Feature def. 357 days, quality 0 days).

          Took much longer than usual, about 27 minutes, normally about 15 minutes.

          rebooted normally in about 90 seconds.

          No immediate gremlins to report.

      • #2268774 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        So maybe 10/2004 will have a little more stability and I’ll skip 1903/1909 entirely, Maybe!

        10/2020 update will be a “quality” update, just like 1903 to 1909, not a full feature update like May 2020.

      • #2268912 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        I’m not seeing any available updates myself. We’re talking about the big 2004 update you were warning us against all lat month?

      • #2268914 Reply
        Cybertooth
        AskWoody Plus

        I have a hand-me-down Windows 10 Pro system that I’m using to try things out. (Original owner tried Windows 10 for about eight months and could not stand it.) Last night, Windows Update Manager reported that KB4552931 and KB4556799 were available. As we are currently on MS-DEFCON 4, I downloaded and installed them.

        Upon reboot, the machine seemed to stall at the “Configuring Updates” screen. I got tired of waiting for it to finish and had dinner. When I came back, the computer was completely turned off, as if someone had pressed the power switch. When I turned it back on, it went back to the “Configuring Updates” screen, and after some 15-20 minutes it turned itself off again.

        On the next reboot, the PC reported that “something” had gone wrong and gave the stop code 0xc000021a, then on clicking to continue took me to the repair/recovery options screen. (I can’t remember if I did anything different at bootup to get that different result.)

        After trying various options that didn’t work, finally a restore point from three restore points ago managed to bring the computer back into Windows. Winver build number is back at 18363.778 (prior to the May patches, it had been at 18363.8-something).

        I’ll be keeping it there until I’m ready for another evening of mucking around with Windows 10.

         

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      • #2268940 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        I’m not seeing any available updates myself. We’re talking about the big 2004 update you were warning us against all lat month?

        No. Defcon 4 is for May 2020 security updates, not May 2020 Feature upgrade.
        If you have quality deferrals set them to 0.

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        DRW
      • #2268946 Reply
        Seff
        AskWoody Plus

        Over the last 24 hours or so I have installed the Windows 10 version 1909 updates on one home desktop, and the Office 2010 Excel update on my other home desktop which is still on Windows 7 so no other updates were offered (although I have today been offered the non-security Office 2010 update unchecked and ignored). Early days especially on the Windows 10 machine which was only updated a couple of hours ago, but nothing adverse noted as yet.

        Thanks as always to Woody, the team, and all contributors.

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      • #2269012 Reply
        DRW
        AskWoody Lounger

        I’m not seeing any available updates myself. We’re talking about the big 2004 update you were warning us against all lat month?

        No. Defcon 4 is for May 2020 security updates, not May 2020 Feature upgrade.
        If you have quality deferrals set them to 0.

        Thank you for clarifying. I didn’t realize these were two separate things. It probably saved me some grief.

        (the original question mine. I didn’t realize I wasn’t logged in)

      • #2269016 Reply
        dwelge
        AskWoody Plus

        I don’t understand why I have 1000 updates for the month of May. They all hit my WSUS on  5/19. None of those KB numbers are on the Master Patch List. Should I ignore them and only install the ones on the list by Susan?

        • #2269017 Reply
          geekdom
          AskWoody Plus

          What is your operating system and version?

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          • #2269290 Reply
            dwelge
            AskWoody Plus

            I’m running Windows 10 1909, server 2012 R2 and server 2016

      • #2269025 Reply
        JD
        AskWoody Plus

        The latest alert –‘ An unusually good month for installing updates’.

        I’m sorry guys, but even a cursory search shows recent serious warnings about the dangers of KB4556799. Gordon Kelly says, ‘..steer well clear…’. Robert Zak: ‘…this update is one of the worst Windows 10 updates to date’. I apply the precautionary principle, not least because my own experience of this Windows 10 blight when it all kicked off was beyond appalling.

        Sorry! It’s just not on!

        Looks like I’ll hold off updating my Win 10 system and wait. Hopefully, MS will have addressed the issues with the June patches.  😮

         

        Group "A"- Win 8.1 x64
        Win 10 ver. 1909 x64

        • #2269656 Reply
          JD
          AskWoody Plus

          Well, I took what PKCano said about that there is never going to be a patch that doesn’t cause some problems, Took the plunge, and installed the May Updates KB4552931 and KB4556799 on the Win 10 1909 machine. So far, *fingers crossed*, there haven’t been any problems.

          Group "A"- Win 8.1 x64
          Win 10 ver. 1909 x64

      • #2269045 Reply
        carpintero
        AskWoody Lounger

        Possible to install cumulative updates via Win RE?

        I ask because April and May cumulatives show failure in View installed updates (NB: success for all other updates), and multiple manual installation runs reported “not installed”, at completion.
        Updating of servicing stack is of no help.

      • #2269211 Reply
        TonyC
        AskWoody Lounger

        While planning the May 2020 updates for my Windows 7 x64 system, I came across the following problem.

        The KB article for KB4556798, the 2020-05 Cumulative Security Update for IE11, states that a prerequisite is the SHA-2 update (KB4474419) that is dated 23 September 2019 or later. But, in the Microsoft Update Catalog, I cannot find a version of KB4474419 for Windows 7 x64 with that date. I can only find versions dated 10 March 2019 (Size 52.1MB), 12 August 2019 (size 0KB), and 9 September 2019 (Size 0KB).

        Does anyone know why the prerequisite statement in the KB article for KB4556798 does not match what is available in the Microsoft Update Catalog?

        I actually have a version of KB4474419 already installed on my Windows 7 x64 system. From my records, this is described as Version 3, dated the 9 September 2019, and has a size of 53.2MB. I installed this on the 4 October 2019 and all subsequent monthly installations of the IE11 Cumulative Security Update have experienced no problems.

        • #2269252 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          You should be good with the Sept 9 version of the SHA-2 patch. The only one released after that is for Server 2008, not Win7 Home/Pro/Ultimate.

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      • #2269220 Reply
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Just got KB4497165: Intel microcode updates.
        Installed on Lenovo Legion Y530, Intel i7-8750H, Windows 10 1909 May 2020 patches.

      • #2269303 Reply
        LHiggins
        AskWoody Plus

        Good morning! I’m looking for a little clarification about Win 10 1909 PRO updates. Again, I seem to find myself a month behind and am not sure how to proceed.

        On May 7 I hid KB4549951 – it had been delayed by 23 days from its April release. That is still hidden in wushowhide. Other April updates never appeared.

        I now also see KB 4552931 available to be hidden in wushowhide – the Cumulative .Net Framework 3.5 and 4.8

        The May CU KB 4556799 is not there yet.

        So my questions –

        • Should I unhide and let KB4549951 install despite the possible printer issues?
        • Should I just let KB4552931 install whenever it appears – or hide it now?
        • Should I hide the May CU KB4556799 when I see it in wushowhide due to the issues it seems to have?

        Thanks for update guidance. I am just never sure when to install these things and am always worried about the reports of issues with them that don’t seem to get resolved.

        • #2269305 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          You should install the monthly Patch Tues updates when Woody gives the DEFCON go-ahead. That means you should install the MAY patches before the June patches are released on the 9th.

          You should not continue to hide the monthly Security (Patch Tues) updates. There is never going to be a patch that doesn’t cause some problems somewhere. Woody’s intention is NOT to stop patching. Woody’s intention is to wait long enough for the issues to be known and usually have workarounds. I can only remember ONE incident where Woody skipped Patch Tues patches, and I have been around a looooong time (no comments about age, please 🙂 ).

          So, yes, you should unPause if you have patches paused, and set the QUALITY deferral to zero, and go ahead and install the May patches.

           

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          • #2269307 Reply
            LHiggins
            AskWoody Plus

            Thanks – I’ll get that all set up.

            And I know this has been discussed, so maybe you can point me to the right place – but I still have Group Policy settings under the business tab for my deferrals. Seems that I should have changed that a while back and never did – is there more about what I should be doing now?

            But as to the feature update – 2004 – that should be deferred for 365 days??

            Thanks again!

            LH

            • #2269309 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              See AKB2000016 Section 4 for settings. There are pictures below if you need help finding things.
              As soon as you finish updating, make any changes.

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          • #2269311 Reply
            JLamede
            AskWoody Plus

            Clarification is very welcome. But I’d also welcome clear, detailed info about the workarounds, particularly for Home users. Thanks!

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            • #2269314 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              Read through the threads on the patches.
              Read Woody’s ComputerWorld article on DEFCON-4.
              See Susan’s Master Patch List and AKB6000001 Health Dashboard.
              I would have to do that too to enumerate them here.
              And if I repeated them again and again it would be redundant 🙂

        • #2269308 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Oh, and don’t forget to set your Quality deferral (or Pause?) back after the update finishes. You don’t want the June patches right off the bat 🙂

          See above post instead of this.

          • This reply was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by PKCano.
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          • #2269313 Reply
            LHiggins
            AskWoody Plus

            Thanks! I know it is time to redo those settings – they are from my initial set up nearly a year ago! Will make the changes and post back with any issues! Thanks again!

      • #2269666 Reply
        CK722RAY
        AskWoody Plus

        Noticed this item posted via my Windows 10 1909 x64 CONTROL PANEL under Security and Maintenance –>> View archived messages –>> Posted on June 5 2020 @ 15:27 EDST

        “Installation Successful: Windows successfully installed the following update: 9PB1PFTHHM15-Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.4”

        For what is worth!

      • #2269765 Reply
        James Bond 007
        AskWoody Lounger

        I have updated all of my Windows 8.1 machines from January 2020 to May 2020 patch level, Group B style using the following updates in order :

        KB4537803 (February 2020 Security-only Update)
        KB4540725 (March 2020 Servicing Stack Update)
        KB4541505 (March 2020 Security-only Update)
        KB4550970 (April 2020 Security-only Update)
        KB4552959 (May 2020 .NET 4.6.2 Security-only Update)
        KB4557698 (May 2020 IE11 Cumulative Security Update)
        KB4556853 (May 2020 Security-only Update)

        The systems seemed to work properly afterwards.

        I am aware that the “Diagnostic Tracking Service” has been installed after the patches. According to others this is a part of the Telemetry Client included in the March 2020 Security-only update KB4541505. I immediately stopped and disabled the service and will check its status from time to time.

        Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

        • #2269782 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          See @abbodi86 ‘s method for neutralizing telemetry in AKB2000012.

          I have been running the script as a Scheduled Task on startup for a long time now. Works great. Never can tell when MS is going to put the stuff back in the updates.

      • #2269874 Reply
        peroghie
        AskWoody Plus

        I installed just the KB4556846 update as I don’t install NET patches. This was done on June 2nd. on my Windows 8.1 laptop. I have had very few problems over the years with this PC and never had a problem like this patch caused me. The update gave me “no program association” for files all over my machine. My solution was not to reset all my associations but to uninstall the update and every thing was fine again. I reinstalled the update and had the same problem again and reverted back to my restore point and again everything is fine again.

        Has anyone else had a similar problem?

        • #2269878 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          I have had no problems with my Win8.1

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        • #2269884 Reply
          Microfix
          AskWoody MVP

          I can also confirm on three Win8.1 devices no issues with the May 2020 update kb4556846. ‘file associations’ are all good.
          Couple of questions, when was your last AV scan of the system? Have you checked your systems integrity? (type: sfc /scannow in an elevated command prompt)

          | Win8.1 Pro x64 | Linux Hybrids x86/x64 | Win7 Pro x86/x64 Offline |
          • #2269903 Reply
            peroghie
            AskWoody Plus

            My AV scan is run daily and usually comes up clean so no problems there. You mention run sfc but should I do it before or after I reinstall KB4556846 or both. It’s over a month ago that I did sfc and no problems then.

            • #2269909 Reply
              Microfix
              AskWoody MVP

              firstly, run Disk Clean-up (cleanup system files) then, whilst online, in an elevated powershell copy and paste the following:
              Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth [return]
              Once complete, restart PC.
              Check within elevated cmd prompt: sfc /verifyonly [return]
              and if all is ok, install the kb patch again.

              | Win8.1 Pro x64 | Linux Hybrids x86/x64 | Win7 Pro x86/x64 Offline |
              • #2269910 Reply
                peroghie
                AskWoody Plus

                Microfix thanks for getting back to me. I’ll try your advice tomorrow as I started playing with this problem 2:30 this morning and gave it a rest just before making my post. Once again thanks.

              • #2269912 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                Just for another check: look in the Installed updates and verify you have the March Servicing Stack Update (SSU) KB4540725 installed.

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              • #2269914 Reply
                peroghie
                AskWoody Plus

                I don’t receive those patches as usually just install security patches and nothing else foe well over 2 years or so. I don’t get a lot of that c*** that MS puts out. Thanks anyway.

              • #2269915 Reply
                PKCano
                Da Boss

                The SSU is the update for the Windows Update mechanism itself. The lack of it could very well be the cause of the problems you are having.

              • #2269926 Reply
                DrBonzo
                AskWoody Plus

                A quick side note: When you say “I don’t receive those patches…” note that depending on how you use Windows Update, you may or may not be offered the SSU patches (updates). But whether you’re offered the SSU or not, you do need it. So the easiest thing is to go to the MS catalog and download and install the SSU manually.

        • #2271897 Reply
          DriftyDonN
          AskWoody Plus

          I haven’t had that problem BUT after installing the May patch, my power settings seemed to be on a track of their own. considering uninstalling – or just using an image to restore.

          "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

      • #2270125 Reply
        Purg2
        AskWoody Lounger

        https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/the-last-of-the-optional-non-security-c-d-week-patches-arrive-for-win10-versions-1903-and-1909/

        Based on the above topic, it would be nice to know if optional updates have been included in the May security only update for Win 8.1 (4556853) or maybe it won’t happen until June.

        Perhaps I’m reading it wrong & it’s only for Win 10 1903 & 1909.  Either way, I keep thinking that M$ is going to do this across all versions & am now reluctant to install the SO’s.  Please advise.

        Win 8.1 Group B, Linux Dabbler

        • #2270132 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Win8.1 Security-only patches are just that – SECURITY-ONLY
          There are no optional Security-only patches for Win8.1

        • #2270161 Reply
          Purg2
          AskWoody Lounger

          Thanks PK.  Something about the optionals getting lumped in with the others is what I was thinking.  I’m probably being overly paranoid, heavy sigh.

          Win 8.1 Group B, Linux Dabbler

      • #2270310 Reply
        peroghie
        AskWoody Plus

        <h5>My last kick at the can for may updates and my problem.My pc laptop W8.1 version 6.3 Build No.9600</h5>
        I have had continuous problems with KB4556846 giving me problems with”this file does not have a program associated”. I uninstalled the update and eveything works fine. Install again and no “file association” happens again. I have taken advice from some postings that I appreciate and thus far has not corrected this problem. I have done the following in various order numerous times: ran SFC which says no problems

        ran disk cleanup

        ran DISM online cleanup

        installed SSU from March KB4540725

        I have been back and forth rechecking and retrying with no avail of a correction so once again I reverted back to my last good original restore point which was just before the install of KB4556846. So now I am at wits end with June updates coming in tommorrow, any last advice out there that anyone may think is helpful ?

         

        • #2270325 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          What file (and its extension) do you click on when you get that message?
          When you find the extension of the file, go to:
          Control Panel\Default Programs\Associate a file type or protocol with a program
          Scroll down the list until you find the extension and associate it with a known program.
          I have many in my list (that I don’t use) that say “Unknown application.”

          • #2270331 Reply
            peroghie
            AskWoody Plus

            Normally I go to File Explorer on my taskbar & click it which open to “This PC”with some folders displayed and I dbl clk the system folder Pictures which opens a list of files containing “png” screenshots and additional single screen shots. I can dbl clk a file or single png and it opens correctly in Windows Photo Viewer. This is the normal operation before I installed the KB update.

            With the KB installed I have to do extra steps to open any of this by right clicking each of the above and scroll to “open” each time I work my way through the above mentioned original way.

            So with the removal of the KB update all my associations are correct and I have no problems. So once again I am lost.

            • #2270335 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              Assuming you are using now without the KB.
              Go to the location in Control panel and look for the .png extension.
              Write down the associated program.
              After installing the KB, go back to the Control Panel and associate .png with that program.

              In my Win8.1, .png is associated with Windows Photo Viewer

              • #2270336 Reply
                peroghie
                AskWoody Plus

                Not to surprise you but that is my setting now same as yours and I had set it before with the KB installed and that is where I was getting the problems. Any other ideas as my brain is getting worn out as once again I’ve been playing with this problem for the 3rd day and this morning starting about 2am since apparently I have nothing else to do.

      • #2270405 Reply
        moflats
        AskWoody Lounger

        I turned off the updates long ago and never stopped using win 7 Pro I installed Kaspersky security instead when I see it no longer works for me I will go to Red Hat witch I used a similar

        version in the late 1960’s while in the USAF-COMSEC. Its all about security IMHO one pays for what one gets.  Also IMHO win 10 is a major privacy security risk, witch is why I refuse to use Facebook, Instagram and any others as I do not share my privacy with anyone – if my friends want to contact me I have a land line (my cell is used for emergencies only and placed in a stainless steel box when not in use.

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      • #2270863 Reply
        Win7and10
        AskWoody Lounger

        Good Day,

        Perhaps you could share me your opinions on this matter.

        At my work, the enterprise is using Windows 10 Enterprise Version 1803.

        Outlook 2016 was recently installed.

        We utilize shared mailboxes which seem to be an issue since the May update.

        I do not have access to poke around in the system, nor would I ever do that.

        What I am interested to know is that could the May 2020 updates for Office 2016 since there were quite a few installed, have any influence on performance and server issues with Outlook?

        They switched my mail to online from cached version when the shared mailboxes would not load, which to me was a server issue.

        Just inquiring, and as always thanks.

        Win 7 Home Premium x 64 SP1 (DELL INSPIRION i5) Still Alive!
        Win 10 Home 1909 (HP ENVY i7)

      • #2271750 Reply
        TJ
        AskWoody Plus

        Reading about the problems that the May Cum.update KB 4556799 can cause, I decided not to install it on my Version 1909 when Woody announced DEFCON-4 for the May updates on June 1st.
        But today I got KBs 4556799, 4552931 (.NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for x64 1909) and 890830 v5.82 ‘offered’ by Windows Update, so I decided to have a go.

        4556799 started very slow, then jumped to 44% and after a while to 77% and got stuck. So I ran Troubleshooter, which said a reboot was pending! So I told Windows to reboot and saw that it was indeed installing the update and afterwards started up correctly.
        Probably because Troubleshooter interfered, both 4552931 and 890830 were listed as ‘failed’, but were again pending for download (and install). Second time around both installed correctly as well.

        Hope everything is and stays fine.

      • #2271898 Reply
        DriftyDonN
        AskWoody Plus

        Added 8 gb RAM and a few days later after May Patch, all stop, wake up just got random. On battery or AC.

        I had added an 8gb RAM stick and thought that was the problem but why? No other issues to speak of, just for example, after couple hrs or just a few minutes, put to sleep and lid down. After a short time, I look and it’s awake-lid down light on solid. And when wanting to disconnect from ac, pull connector, screen dims, normal, then ALL STOP. Or several variations thereof. just wake up from sleep or all stop. Task Scheduler seems to have a TON of new things but I am not very familiar with that , So I removed the new RAM – all seemed ok . no issues. OK Stubborn I put the RAM back in, runs fine. xcept it wont stay asleep and has a tendency to all stop! So I started the return process and Amazon is sending UPS MONDAY to pick it up. (RAM)

        BUT I’m thinking maybe this last patch is the issue! I did get the RAM 4 or 5 days prior to patching on 6 Jun

        (May patch-win10 Pro ver 1909 bld18363.836) in Acer Aspire E 15 E5-576G-5762 core i5 8th gen nvidia gforce(never used) 256 gb ssd,8gb kingston RAM.

        Anyone having power setting issues? I have it set at balanced which is “recommended” and have always had it there.

        It runs fine until I put to sleep and close, or disconnect ac.

        Something in Task scheduler?

        Thanks for reading this ramblin on..

         

        "Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare."

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