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MS-DEFCON 4: Get the September 2020 patches installed
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Please read through #2301183. This will answer what happened to you. You did not clear the Windows Update queue after you hid the update.
AKB2000016 Guide for Windows Update Settings for Win10. Sections 1-3 are general. Section 4 covers settings for Win10 Pro v1903/v1905. Section 5 covers Pro v2004.
You can rollback to your previous version within 10 days of an upgrade as long as you have not run Disk Cleanup or manually deleted the old files.
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If you are on Win10 Pro and are looking to upgrade:
If you are on v1809, v1903, or v1909, Feature deferral less than 120 days should get you v2004.
If you are on v1809 or 1903, Feature deferral 250-300 days should get you v1909.
If you are on v1809, Feature deferral 340 days or greater will get v1903. But v1809 and v1903 are so close to EOL this is not recommended.
Installed:
2020-09 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 3.5.1, 4.5.2, 4.6, 4.6.1, 4.6.2, 4.7, 4.7.1, 4.7.2, 4.8 for Windows 7 for x64 (KB4576628)
2020-09 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB4577051)
Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – v5.83 (KB890830)
Everything running fine.
Was not offered any SSU after this.
Win7 Pro SP1 64-bit, Dell Latitude E6330, Intel CORE i5 "Ivy Bridge", 12GB RAM, Group "0Patch", Multiple Air-Gapped backup drives in different locations. Linux Mint Greenhorn
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There was no new Servicing Stack for Win7 in September. The current SSU is KB4570673 released in August.
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I have often.seen the “installing” notice start twice I suspect it is the SSU installing then the CU installing. You should leave Windows Update alone to complete.
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Restarting Explorer would probably fix that:
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Updated my 1909 Pro x64 system with KB’s 4576751 SSU, 4574727 Cum. Sep and 4576484 .NET 3.5 & 4.8 respectively today and all seems well.
Thanks @Woody & Crew.
(And temporarily unblocked automatic updates for Office365 C2R last week, which since then is on Version 2008 Build 13127.20508)
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September patches installed with no problems to report on Win 8.1 🙂
Installation Successful: Windows successfully installed the following update: 2020-09 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.5.2, 4.6, 4.6.1, 4.6.2, 4.7, 4.7.1, 4.7.2, 4.8 for Windows 8.1 and Server 2012 R2 for x64 (KB4576630)
Installation Successful: Windows successfully installed the following update: 2020-09 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 8.1 for x64-based Systems (KB4577066)
Win 10 ver. 22H2 x64
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I had the exact same results last night on a Win 8.1 machine.
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My W8.1 had some desktop issues with settings being lost. All else seems OK.
cheers, Paul
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FWIW. I found that the IE11 update for Windows 8.1 last month slowed down my system. When I uninstalled it, things went back to normal. I have an Ivy Bridge processor.
The other updates for 8.1 were OK.
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I did the manual install of KB4576627 because I did not install the KB4577324 Cumulative Update Preview for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.7.2, 4.8 for 1809 dated September 16, 2020.
Not sure whether Microsoft statement in the KB article for 4576627 according to which “This update is included in the Cumulative Update that’s dated September 8, 2020” means that the .NET update (here KB4576627) is included in the CU (here KB4570333).
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1. Why isn’t Windows Updates offering them to me anymore?
Probably because this coming Tuesday the 6th is the day that MS usually releases preview patches for Office that are not security related, and, because of this, they’ve probably mistakenly allowed these patches to supersede the September security patches. Therefore WU isn’t offering them to you.
As a caveat, this month, October, is the LAST TIME that MS will release ANY security patches for Office 2010, on the 13th. After that, you’re on your own for patching any holes that may be found in your Office 2010 products.
2. Should I go to the Microsoft Catalog and install them manually?
Yes, it would be a good idea at this point, since we’re at the MS-DEFCON level of 4. To help you out, here are some links to the patches you’ve listed that you need from the MS Update Catalog:
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4484530
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4484532
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4486660
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4486665
Be sure to download only the version for your copy of Office, as they have both 32 bit and 64 bit links on those pages. My guess is that you probably have the 32 bit version of Office 2010, since you say that you have a 32 bit edition of Windows 7.
I hope this helps.
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Bob99
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Heidoc.net offers downloadable versions of MS Ofice 2013 but, you NEED a legal product key. Generally, I’m on the side of keeping office 2010 going with 0Patch security patches for the product together with your Windows 7
However, as others have mentioned, there are open source alternatives, eg: LibreOffice, should you wish to go down that route. I done the transition years ago with Office 2010 Pro Plus to WPS office (which is completely isolated and offline with firewall rules) At the time, WPS Office was the most compatible for our needs, with some minor quirks but, it still works for us today. YMMVNo problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created IT- AE1 user thanked author for this post.
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Bob99: Thanks very much for all the work you did to provide such a detailed response. The links you provided would have been helpful, but when I tried them, they produced files that I don’t have enough computer knowledge to be able to utilize them. The files were .cab files, and I didn’t know how to deal with those. So what I did instead was go the Microsoft Download Center, and that gave me .exe files, and the .exe files were easy for me install, because all I had to do was download them and then click on the downloaded files and let them run. I mentioned the catalog in my original posting, because I’ve used the catalog before, but my recollection is that it provided .exe files. But for these particular updates it provided .cab files. Anyway, I’ve got the updates installed now, but by using a different method.
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Great to hear you were able to get the updates from the download center!
I just looked and, yes, the files listed are .cab files. However, all you need to do is to treat them as executables, even with Windows 7. I remember coming up against that “wall” myself many years ago. Someone then told me to download them and click on them and Win 7 would take it from there.
I just now clicked on one of the links and then clicked on the “Download” button in the resulting list for both the 32 bit and 64 bit versions, and Windows came up asking if I wanted to open the file with Explorer or if I wanted to save the file. I’m on Win 10, but the behavior is the same in Win 7 from what I recall.
So, if you come up against this issue in the future with .cab files being offered for download, simply treat them as .exe files, especially if they’re coming from a Microsoft site that you initiated the interaction with by going there on your own and NOT from any link embedded in the text of an email, as scammers are prone to do.
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Bob99
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Woody still recommends v1909. V2004 still has too many problems.
But it would be a good idea to sock away a v2004 ISO for future use.
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not really PKCano.
v2004 now is more stable than first released back in late May 2020 so some of those “too many problems” have been fixed either by MS (with recent optional KB4577063 preview update) or by 3rd party manufacturers issuing 2004 compatible drivers.
I hardly have issues with 2004 lately
best to wait until end of October or early November to upgrade to 2004
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Have you read Woody’s linked ComputerWorld article?
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So I followed Woody’s instructions to install the September patches. Two of my three Win10 boxes got upgraded to 2004. 🙁
Feature update like 2004 isn’t part of monthly quality updates.
On home version with resumed Pause, you should have blocked 2004 with wumgr, wumt, wushowhide before the resume.
On pro you should have set GP ‘notify don’t download’ = 2https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/2000016-guide-for-windows-update-settings-for-windows-10/
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Windows 7 users: There are issues with the September Monthly Rollup and the Security Only update. Both cause graphic issues which can be severe when playing video in web browsers and in stand-alone video players, depending on how recent your graphics drivers are for video hardware. Other issues are seen in popups in MS Office and in the System Tray popups, and in crashes in some video games. These issues are being increasingly reported.
On the bright side, either September update does uninstall gracefully, such that the issues are resolved. It appears that Microsoft still is unaware of these issues.
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Thank you for this post. Earlier in this thread, I asked whether there had been reports of any problems after installing the September SO update for Win7 (see #2300919).
I’m not sure what to do now. I didn’t install the August SO update for Win7 because of reports that it might prevent me from being able to print from my PC. And, contrary to what you state in your last paragraph, because I have been using W7ESUI to install the Win7 SO updates, I have subsequently been informed that I am not able to uninstall them in the usual way (see #2296008). And I don’t really want to get into having to restore my system from a system image.
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I’m not sure what to do now. I didn’t install the August SO update for Win7 because of reports that it might prevent me from being able to print from my PC. And, contrary to what you state in your last paragraph, because I have been using W7ESUI to install the Win7 SO updates, I have subsequently been informed that I am not able to uninstall them in the usual way (see #2296008).
Hi TonyC,
I use abbodi86’s BypassESU-v9-AIO in order to check for Windows updates, to install or remove SO ESU updates, and to install .NET updates. Since you prefer to use W7ESUI to install SO updates, you can choose option 2 when installing BypassESU-v9-AIO. Option 2 will only install the ESU Supressor. With the ESU Supressor installed, you will be able to uninstall any ESU updates which cause issues.
I didn’t encounter any printing issues after installing the August SO update.
Best regards,
–GTP
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GTP, thank you very much for your reply.
Your reply was a lot more helpful than abbodi86’s rather cryptic reply in another topic (see #2301060). And there appears to be some sensitivity about discussing or even referring to BypassESU-v9-AIO on this forum.
My problem is finding the time to maintain my Win7 system until I have been able to migrate all the function and data that I require onto a Win10 system on a new PC. If it hadn’t have been for the COVID-19 pandemic and all the lockdown restrictions, I probably would have been there by now and I wouldn’t be needing my Win7 system any longer. I’m a home user and I don’t sit in front of my PC all day and every day.
I started using Win7 security only updates way back in October 2016 (?) following the “Get Windows 10” debacle. I didn’t want Win10 on my increasingly aged PC. It was then that I started to use the Microsoft Update Catalog to download updates. So, when Win7 end of service arrived, it was a natural progression to use W7ESUI to install the updates. But, at the same time, I didn’t realise that any other way existed. I had never heard of BypassESU-v9-AIO until abbodi86 mentioned it in the correspondence referenced above.
I will investigate BypassESU-v9-AIO and, if I have any queries, it sounds as though it would be better to post them on the MDL forum.
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But WU won’t match what you see in wushowhide until WU rescans and replaces the old list in the cache. So you have to clear the cache or WAIT until WU rescans on its own , because if you do not, WU will download/install whatever is in it’s list.
I was having exactly this problem with the annoying KB4023057 update pending download according to the WU list despite hiding it in wushowhide. Since WU was taking ages to do a rescan on its own (and I wanted to finish installing the last few September updates I had yet to install), I found out one way to force the rescan.
For anyone interested, to force WU do a rescan open an elevated (Admin) command prompt window and then type
usoclient.exe StartScan
If you have your WU window open when running the above command you’ll see the scan start. Once the scan finished, WU reported the system to be up to date with no available updates.
Just make sure to do the above rescan with metered connections on and when you have hidden all undesired updates with wushowhide or there’s the risk that WU will download and install something.
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please note that running “Usoclient.exe StartScan” without the WU window open will do nothing and will not work.
This command isn’t meant to be called outside of the internal OS. Nobody outside the OS should be trying to run the usoclient directly.
the WU settings window must be running or open for Usoclient to work
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Not necessary
you can run “Usoclient.exe StartScan” after you clear the WU cache, and it will work
https://pastebin.com/mwKtTf5NWU settings window is not needed to be open
@wmic service usosvc call StopService @wmic service wuauserv call StopService @del /f /q C:\ProgramData\USOPrivate\UpdateStore\* @wmic service usosvc call StartService @UsoClient.exe RefreshSettings @UsoClient.exe StartScan
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I had been planning on installing Office 2013 to provide security updates now that Microsoft is terminating security updates for Office 2010
Have you checked the free LibreOffice 7 as replacement to your Office 2010.? You can test the portable version
This will also cut some chains to Microsoft.1 user thanked author for this post.
born is recently reporting that the optional KB4577062 preview update for 1903/1909 blocks the upgrade to 2004:
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#EP
Thanks, just found Born site myself.
Do you find him fully reliable?
Seems to explain things very thoroughly
be well, breathe and honor wabi sabi
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I’ve since disabled it in Task Manager, but I noticed after running the September version 1909 updates as detailed above that Skype was showing on my task bar as a start-up item despite my never having used it. I didn’t even know I had it!
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Skype was showing on my task bar as a start-up item despite my never having used it. I didn’t even know I had it!
Since you say that you also had a Samsung modem update installed as part and parcel of this month’s updates, perhaps Skype was in a “wrapper” (which neither you nor Microsoft were made aware of) that encased the actual modem update from Samsung. Just sayin’. There are all kinds of reasons, actually, that Skype just suddenly showed up on your task bar, the above scenario being just one of them.
I’m on 2004 pro x64 and I disabled/removed Skype while initially setting up my computers after purchasing them from a local mom and pop store (no brand name computers allowed in this house..too much bloatware, to put it mildly). I’ve updated with the September patches, .net and all, and no hint of Skype anywhere on my task bar or system for that matter.
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Today is October 11, 2020.
My trusty Thinkpad T61 is running Win 10 1909 build 18363.900
I am still slightly amazed that this OLD hardware keeps on working.I have Group Policy under Windows Update set to
Configure Automatic Updates = Enabled, value = 2Wushowhide is hiding several things I know to avoid, such as driver updates and Win 2004.
Today I am offered 3 updates:
- MSRT KB890830
- Cum Update for .NET KB4576484
- 2020-09 Update for Windows 10 version 1909 KB4023057
So, noted in this thread up above are several posts saying to avoid KB4023057.
Were those posts made during Defcon 2?I see that Woody has moved to Defcon 4, and Susan Bradley’s master patch list says KB4023057 and KB4576484 are recommended to install.
Should I allow these updates? Thanks so much for all the smart advice here.
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You are missing Sept. CU update KB4574727 (OS Builds 18363.1082)
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Here is what I see in Settings / Update & Security /
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It’s called some kind of “Helper” and you uninstall it in Settings\Apps or in Control Panel\Programs and Features. Be suer you hide it afterward!
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Indeed. I hope it did not do anything harmful while it was here. I should share what I have learned in case others may benefit.
So the UNinstall did not show any error messages. There are no files or folders on the disk with the string “4023057” in the name.
A new folder “c:ProgramFilesMicrosoft Update Health Tools” was created, but it is currently empty and I will delete that folder now.
There is a file called “C:WindowsSystem32LogsUpdateHealthTools.001.etl” which I do not know how to examine, so I will leave it alone.
Under Settings / Windows Update, the last checked date is yesterday.
WUShowHide has nothing in the queue, and shows these entries as already hidden:
Under Settings / Windows Update/Update History it still shows the update that I just deleted:
Windows Update shows this:
At this point, I think I am OK.
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Sorry if I am asking a silly question, but I am used to WU, and have not used the Update Catalog previously.
So, in order to move from Win 19 1909 build 18363.900 to build 18363.1082, I found a file at this URL for the Microsoft Update Catalog:
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4574727and that leads me to a 400 MB file for my x64 OS:
windows10.0-kb4574727-x64_3874e5f283185dab47b6564674946a5122d4a05c.msuCan that be UNinstalled if problems arise?
By the way, I noticed that the Update Catalog says KB4574727 has been superseded by KB 4577062, but the word Preview appears on that one, so I will avoid it.
Thank you!
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Do you have Qualith Deferral set? If so, set it to 0 (zero) so you get the Sept CU.
If you do not have Quality deferral (or pause) set, you will need two patches:
KB4576751 2020-09 SSU – install this first
KB4574727 2020-09 CU.Put them on your desktop.
Double click on the SSU and let it install
Double click on the CU and let it install
Reboot your computer.Don’t install the Preview.
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