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    • #234490 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      Here we go again. KB 4023057 has been updated, with a lengthy KB article and very little substance that I can discern. We saw it on Sept. 9 and earlie
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    • #234499 Reply

      PKCano
      AskWoody MVP

      I have had to rehide KB 4023057 every month (each time I update through WU) for a long time on just about every version of Win10 I’ve messed with. Statement excludes Win10 v1809 since I’ve only had it installed for one day at this point.

      • #234572 Reply

        Arvy
        AskWoody Lounger

        Can confirm that no such update has appeared for W10.1809 at any time since I installed its original release with subsequent updates to the current 17763.134 build. Seems to be prep work only for versions that may currently be subject to some major “feature” update.

    • #234500 Reply

      RamRod
      AskWoody Lounger

      4023067 resets your machine in advance of updating to the current version of WinX. It is a Servicing Stack Update (SSU). It updates the WinX mechanism (Servicing Stack) to facilitate updating of Windows. It’s that simple. Of course it comes out in sync with new releases of WinX – MS wants/needs/forces the entire base to move along to the current version of WinX. It includes the dreaded Update Assistant and associated payload. It adds tasks in Task Scheduler to ensure that updating occurs – usually around 1 a.m. while you are peacefully snoozing.

      I am still on 1511. If I ever do decide to move to the current version of WinX I will simply turn Windows Update Service on, and accept the 4023067 SSU. Then I will become a sucker…err – Seeker.

      RamRod

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      • #234575 Reply

        woody
        Da Boss

        … which is why I find it so odd that MS releases it independently of the SSU updates.

        Maybe there’s just too many of them.

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        • #234580 Reply

          RamRod
          AskWoody Lounger

          I suspect there are two sequences – first a monthly issuance, perhaps as a catchall; second synchronized with major version releases. A third sequence might coincide with specific changes internal to an update that requires special support or actions during or after the download of the update. Notice that it is for ‘some 1507, 1511, 1607, 1703, 1709 and 1803 machines’. Not all. Perhaps we should check the MS documentation to get to the truth of the matter.

        • #234607 Reply

          abbodi86
          AskWoody MVP

          KB4023057 is not an update and definitely not SSU

          it’s indepentent MSI package

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          • #234625 Reply

            ch100
            AskWoody MVP

            It is “fixit” tool 🙂

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    • #234505 Reply

      Microfix
      AskWoody MVP

      Notes about this update
      This update may request your device to stay awake longer to enable installation of updates.
      Note The installation will respect any user-configured sleep configurations and also your “active hours” when you use your device the most.
      This update may try to reset network settings if problems are detected, and it will clean up registry keys that may be preventing updates from being installed successfully.
      This update may repair disabled or corrupted Windows operating system components that determine the applicability of updates to your version of Windows 10.
      This update may compress files in your user profile directory to help free up enough disk space to install important updates.
      This update may reset the Windows Update database to repair the problems that could prevent updates from installing successfully. Therefore, you may see that your Windows Update history was cleared.

      So why haven’t MS baked KB4023057 into the ISO or ‘feature Upgrade’ if it’s important during installation?

      | W10 Pro x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 | Linux x64 Hybrids | XP Pro O/L
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      • #234577 Reply

        warrenrumak
        AskWoody Lounger

        So why haven’t MS baked KB4023057 into the ISO or ‘feature Upgrade’ if it’s important during installation?

        There are a whole bunch of “home remedies” out there on the Internet for solving various types of problems, including resetting the TCP/IP stack, deleting the local Windows Update catalog, restarting services, finding some extra disk space, etc.etc.  Microsoft figures that most of these could be done automatically instead — and they’re right.  Thing is, you can’t actually build that functionality into Windows Update itself, because if the problem is with a corrupted Windows Update….. well…. then what?

         

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    • #234525 Reply

      abbodi86
      AskWoody MVP

      I think KB4023057 should enter Guinness World Records for how many versions it had 🙂

      • #234526 Reply

        PKCano
        AskWoody MVP

        Can it beat KB2952664 (per Win10 version)? 🙂

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      • #234528 Reply

        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        26th re-release for KB4023057

        | W10 Pro x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 | Linux x64 Hybrids | XP Pro O/L
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    • #234588 Reply

      anonymous

      This update was downloaded and installed on my HP Omen 7th generation core i7 7700 laptop with 8 Gb RAM and a 128 Gb SanDisk SSD running Windows 10 1803 build xxxxx.407 last week, a laptop that I only use for a couple hours every other day in the evening hours. I have not been offered (if you can call it that) the upgrade to version 1809 yet. This is the first time I have seen this update in the almost a year that I’ve had that laptop, which came with version 1709. The odd thing to me at least is that KB4023057 is the only KB that has ever appeared on the Programs and Features page and been listed as an installed software program or application like the VLC media player or some/any other downloaded and installed software package or application. It is right there listed as downloaded and installed software. But it is not listed as a program on the start menu under any Windows or Microsoft heading. Odd. I am assuming now that I will be upgrading to version 1809 soon (I have Windows 10 Home), probably Tuesday, whether I want it or not (since having a Windows 10 OS presumably means that my ownership of this one thousand dollar device is by definition shared with Microsoft). <smh>

       

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    • #234639 Reply

      fred
      AskWoody Lounger

      KB4023057

      @anonymous : Exactly the same here with this “update”, it was installed on my HP Pavilion 6th generation core i7 6500 laptop with 8 Gb RAM and a 128 Gb SanDisk SSD running Windows 10 1803 build xxxxx.407
      I noticed 3 “flashes” of my screen, looked like a popping up of a Command-window;  this update KB4023057 is in the software installation list too, NOT in the historylist of the “Quality Updates”
      => noticed that my Prefetcher settings in the registry was set to “applications+boot” files (before it was set to “bootfiles only”, so it is back again right now, manualy set again)…

      Some unexplained magic here for me

      • This reply was modified 4 weeks ago by  fred.
    • #234649 Reply

      anonymous

      KB4023057 is mainly to unblock blocked or disabled Windows Update, so that M$ can force the Win 10 1809 auto-upgrade onto all Win 10 Home & Pro computers. Eg some Win 10 Home users might have blocked/disabled Windows Update’s forced auto-updates/upgrades through a Registry setting or Component Services setting or etc.

    • #234743 Reply

      anonymous

      When I was still using win10 1709, KB4023057 would get pushed every month after 1803 was released. Microsoft apparently can’t understand why someone wouldn’t want their twice-yearly computer-breaking updates, so they push out KB4023057 to re-enable all the Windows Update stuff. I had my fill after the first couple attempts, so I did this:

      1. Uninstall it in Control Panel\Programs and Features. It’s not in the list of updates.

      2. Make a C:\Program Files\rempl folder. If it’s already there, delete it and then make it yourself so you have ownership from the get-go.

      3. Deny all accounts but administrators all access to the rempl folder. You can do this through the permissions dialog or with icacls in an administator command prompt. You will probably have to take ownership first if you didn’t make the folder.

      This way, if you forget to run wushowhide (what an awful tool btw) in time, the installation of KB4023057 will just fail and your Windows Update disabling trickery will survive. Windows Update will keep trying to install it though, so you should still wushowhide it when you remember to do it.

    • #234757 Reply

      clarkg888
      AskWoody Lounger

      I have managed to keep control of updates by setting:
      1. gpedit.msc : Computer Configuration – Administrative Templates – Windows Components – Windows Update – Configure Windows Updates: 2 – Notify for download and auto install.
      2. Settings – Update & Security – Windows Update – Advanced Options – Choose when updates are installed – Feature updates = 365 days.

      Does anybody know if these settings are reset by KB4023057?
      thanks,
      Clark.

      • #234975 Reply

        anonymous

        After posting, I had a look at the Windows update history on my main computer, Previous versions of KB4023057 have been installed and my settings were not effected.

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