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    The 3rd Tuesday “preview” rollout isn’t working the way it’s supposed to. UPDATE: Following up on comments posted on the patchmanagement.org mailing l
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    • #16597

      Just read the InfoWorld article and got another good laugh from the following —

      “Surprisingly, Microsoft didn’t pick up the bug in its “Preview of Quality Rollup” phase, which put the patches out for testing in November. I didn’t see any notice about the problem until yesterday–a full week after the final, December versions of the patches appeared and a month after the bug first hit in the “Preview” phase.”

      Surprisingly? Really? You’re too kind!

    • #16598

      Maybe the bug wasn’t caught in the Preview is because everyone is avoiding the Previews!

    • #16599

      Them gosh-durn unpaid beta testers ain’t testin’ what they’re s’posed to be testin’.

    • #16600

      Yesterday I noticed an Optional Updated for two of my Windows 7 machines,
      Name:INTEL – System – 8/19/2016 12:00:00 AM –
      Size: 67KB

      Once again the More information/Support information links will give you nothing. Just wondering if I should install it.

      Thank you!

    • #16601

      Do you have a KB number?

    • #16602

      Thank you for your response, but it does not have a KB, it seems like a INTEL update for hardware. Very strange

    • #16603

      It could be something that Intel is distributing. Where do you see it? In Windows Update? If so, what is the exact name?

    • #16604

      Woody, I saw it when I checked for Windows Updates manually. The full name is:

      INTEL – System – 8/19/2016 12:00:00 AM –
      Size: 67KB

      That PC has an Intel motherboard. Also at work too, wit another PC with the same motherboard. It seems like a hardware/driver update.

    • #16605
    • #16606

      Haha, yeah, you could be right!

    • #16607

      My general rule of thumb pertaining to MS provided hardware drivers is if it ain’t broke don’t break it.

      Get Intel drivers from Intel, NOT Microsoft.

    • #16608

      What’s interesting to me here is a little logical thing. We established, last week, the only “security” update to .net Framework was to 4.6.2. So, what seems to have happen here is last week’s big .net security and quality roll-up “broke” what was previously a stable 4.5.2. This would suggest, and I underscore suggest, the problem is not in the security portion of the KB, as there was none, but the quality roll-up portion. I am not in the computer business, so all I am doing is raising a logical suggestion.

    • #16609

      It was in my WU as an Optional this morning as well. This is how it reads: INTEL-System-8/19/2016 12:00:00AM- 67KB

    • #16610

      boy, am I glad for defcon…
      still patiently waiting for green b4 installing anything!

    • #16611

      We’ve had two pulled patches, at least two missing “Preview” patches, and an unannounced hotfix so far this month. Probably a good reason to wait a bit.

    • #16612
    • #16613

      Looks likely to me.

    • #16614

      I got that one also. There is no KB number, it’s listed exactly as above: INTEL – System – 8/19/2016 12:00:00 AM – Underneath the name is: INTEL System driver update released in August 2016. No info available through More information/Support information. Anybody know what it is?

    • #16615

      No idea, but I’m seeing reports in Swedish, and “b” just logged a post in German.

    • #16616


    • #16617

      Showed up in mine, too: Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit

      WU won’t let me cut and paste, but it says:
      >>INTEL – System – 8/19/2016 12:00:00 AM –

      >> INTEL System driver update released in August 2016

      Size is 67 KB

      I searched the Intel site and could not find anything on this update. Hmm.

    • #16618

      Which patches have been pulled?

    • #16619

      Woody, I am asking because I don’t see any of them pulled in WSUS.
      I read your update after posting and this seems to clarify it. 🙂

    • #16620

      Ends up they haven’t been pulled. The two KBs mentioned, 3210137 and 38, were never released as independent patches – at least, they weren’t released independently on WSUS, as best I can tell. They were rolled into KB 3205403 and 3205404, respectively and THOSE patches were, and are, available. They’re the ones that came out on WSUS.

      Making the situation even more complex, only the .NET 4.5.2 part of KB 3205403 and 3205404 have the bug. I have no idea how Microsoft’s going to fix it. Probably wait until next month and overwrite the 4.5.2 pieces then. In the interim, SQL users need to go through the manual fix.

      Further confusing things: Veritas recommends removing KB 3210137 and 38. It isn’t clear to me if those appear individually on some Windows 8.1 computers. Do you know?

      These interlocking KB numbers have my head swimming.

      That’s why I had the article pulled from InfoWorld. I need to rework it.

    • #16621

      I cannot find KB3210137 and KB3210138 on WSUS neither as available nor expired. There are probably included in the rollups as you said.
      This confirms that the Enterprise customers, unlike popular belief, do not get preferential treatment and the bugs affecting them are not fixed immediately.
      I have nothing to do with Windows 8.1, the closest which I use regularly being Windows 2012 R2 which I will check later. Noel uses Windows 8.1 and he can provide better input than me about this issue.

    • #16622

      They weren’t pulled from WSUS, but I’m still scratching my head. I’ll run a test on Win 8.1 overnight.

    • #16623

      I can’t see those patches on fully patched systems. It may be because I have .NET Framework 4.6.2 installed where those patches do not apply.

    • #16624

      Windows 2012 R2 systems, should be the same for Windows 8.1.

    • #16625

      Yeah, I’m struggling with setting up a clean 8.1 machine with 4.5.2. Check for updates took overnight, and it still hasn’t stopped. Argh.

    • #16626

      I have downloaded KB3210137 from the Microsoft Update Catalog for storage, although I have no intention of installing it myself.

      It is still available from Microsoft Update Catalog, as part of KB3205404. When you click download on KB3205404, you will see several updates to download, and one of them is KB3210137.

    • #16627


    • #16628


      Is KB3205404 (Important update listed in the MS updates) SAFE to install? Cannot seem to find an answer on this question.

      Thank you for current information – – – I don’t see anything else here.

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