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      • #236869 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        The second monthly cumulative update for Win10 1809 is late. And I say bravo and huzzah. (Not a self-portrait.) Details coming in Computerworld.
        [See the full post at: New cumulative updates for Win10 1803 and 1709 — and a taste of what might be right in 1809]

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      • #236874 Reply
        GreatAndPowerfulTech
        AskWoody Plus

        Just imagine what would happen if Microsoft extended this same cautious pace to version upgrades. We might actually see new versions of Win10 appear in semi-solidified form, with features that are worth the disruption of a complete Windows reinstall

        Hits the nail on the head. Solidly. Microsoft might actually keep some tech people in their corner of the OS world if Windows went to solid releases, and updates stopped causing problems. They forgot that eliminating pain points is critical in keeping customers happy.

        MVP Edit: Quotation fixed

        GreatAndPowerfulTech

      • #236901 Reply
        UKBrianC
        AskWoody Lounger

        There’s an awful lot of heavy lifting over an extended period of time, and on several issues as well as update mechanisms, before any meaningful trust is there. Of course if this indicates a real, sustained change of policy that can only be good news……. But……. Can I wait a while before I throw them a parade!

        • #236904 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          Great analogy – the “heavy lifting” can be Microsoft’s Feats of Strength in Woody’s Patch Festivus Miracle!

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      • #236910 Reply
        OscarCP
        AskWoody Plus

        “One who is prudent is patient” is good advice for all sorts of things, for example, eating: Prudens qui patiens etenim durissima coquit. (Such the original Latin saying, in full, abridged in his crest by Sir Edward Coque (pronounced “cook”) as a pun (“coquit”) on his own name.) Or this other example: patching only after waiting for a few weeks and for enough signs and portents that look favorable to the deed (e.g., entries in the Master Patch List, the DEFCON, people reporting trouble). Or this other one: waiting longer before releasing what is, allegedly, a new, incremental version of Windows.

        Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS + Linux (Mint)

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      • #236940 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Once a year versions would be a great addition (subtraction) to “cautious” updates.

      • #237002 Reply
        Pixie
        AskWoody Lounger

        I am running Win 10 Home 1803.  I did not receive any CU yesterday or today for 1803…KB4467682.  I receive updates  automatically.  Should I have received this CU? I am not a seeker and let updates come to me.  Last update I received was the one released on 11/17 KB4023057.

        • #237022 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          KB4467682 is a non-security “Preview” CU meant for testing, not mainstream installation. You should get the Security CUs released on Patch Tuesday only, not the ones released on “C” or “D” week.

          KB4023057 is NOT a CU. It is part of Microsoft’s “get you upgraded” push. If you don’t want to be their Guinea Pig/Beta Tester and test each new version before it’s ready, you should uninstall it then hide it in the future.

          • #237252 Reply
            anonymous
            Guest

            @PKCano. Thank You for clearing up some confusion for me.  Discussion on this forum sometimes talks about recent KB’s issued for Win 10 versions but doesn’t mention the discussion is referencing Previews therefore I get confused if the discussion is talking about CU updates we should have received but holding for DefCon to go up to patch.  So thank you for your response.  I am just a home user not very skilled in computers and come here to get information. You are a big help!

        • #237100 Reply
          UKBrianC
          AskWoody Lounger

          For what it’s worth, a machine of mine running 10 Home 1803 got KB4467682 yesterday via Windows Update (auto set). Build moved from 17134.407 to .441.

      • #237007 Reply
        dwh
        AskWoody Lounger

        After I updated Win10 Pro from 1703 to 1803 according to Woody’s instructions (worked great), I started getting update available notifications toasts and noticed minitool showing “Notification Mode” instead of “Disabled” as I remembered before.  That’s a little surprising; I would expect it would either be left alone or be set to “Automatically.”  Of course, I went back into the group policy editor and changed “Configure Automatic Updates” from Enabled mode 2 (Notify) back to Disabled.  I’m pretty sure checking for updates with minitool did find one of the flash updates after that, but not 100% sure.  Anyway checking for updates with minitool now doesn’t see the new 1803 update, and neither does wushowhide find it.  Setting back to Enabled mode 2 doesn’t change this behavior.  At this point it’s just a curiosity since we’re still at MS-DEVCON 2.

      • #237032 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        I cannot see this update on our WSUS for 1709 KB4467681 (all Win 10 products ticked except the S version). But I guess it is old news that it is a lottery if WSUS received the updates or not… If anyone has a fix, be my guest.

        • #237035 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          KB4467681 is a Non-security CU for 1709. Do you have that enabled?

          The patches released on “C” and “D” week are classified as Non-security and are meant as “Previews.” The “B” week (Patch Tues.) CUs are classified as Security.

          • #237116 Reply
            anonymous
            Guest

            I have not specified the property for Classification, so I should get all the updates as far as I know. I am already getting “update rollups”, “updates” and “upgrades” plus the security ones. The only property I set for this view is for Product, which has all W10 except S, 1803 and 1809. Also not showing up when I search all updates of course.

            I have seen the same issue in the past and can recall it was also an “out of schedule” update that did not surface on our WSUS. I know Susan Bradley wrote about this some time ago.

      • #237225 Reply
        abbodi86
        AskWoody_MVP
      • #238016 Reply
        Irene
        AskWoody Plus

        While the Defcon Level is still 2, I thought I would ask a few questions.  I have Windows 10 64bit, Home 1709 version16299.726.  I use Windows MiniTool for updates except for the Cumulative Updates which I download from the Catalogue, and I use the Windows Update Blocker.

        For the third month in a row I received no security and no cumulative updates; (i.e., no KB4467686 (and if it has one no servicing stack update))

        I received the latest Adobe Flash & MSRT,

        and ones I’ve been advised by reading or by PK Cano to not install:  KBs 4056254, 4023814, 4090007, 4023057, 4477029 and have them hidden.

        1. I know to install the Adobe Flash & MSRT.  Are there updates other than KB4467686 I should download and install?    Is there a cumulative update for 1709 I need?

        2. I have no great love for 1709, nor any desire to update to version 1803 or to be fighting off 1809, but Windows forced me into a MacBook and I am very happy with the result.  2a. Based on Woody’a advice should I bite the bullet and install 1803?  2b. If I go the 1803 route, are there any KB’s I need to install, either in the list above or absent necessary for me to install.  2c. Are there pointers other than to make disk images and to be careful if I go to 1803?

        Thank you very much for the help ahead of time.

        • #238076 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Is there a cumulative update for 1709 I need?

          KB4465661 is the SSU that is needed. If you look toward the bottom of the page for KB4467686, you will find that information.

          2a. Based on Woody’a advice should I bite the bullet and install 1803? 2b. If I go the 1803 route, are there any KB’s I need to install, either in the list above or absent necessary for me to install.

          There is no rush to upgrade to 1803. There are still some problems that need to be fixed there. But since it is an upgrade, you don’t have to do anything to 1709 since it will essentially be replaced.

          UPDATE: And today’s blog post just goes to show…..

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          • #238172 Reply
            Irene
            AskWoody Plus

            Dear PK Cano,

            Thank you very much for your help.  I will just stay with 1709 and apply the cumulative update & SSU.  In addition, thank you for showing me where I can get the information for the SSU needed.

            Can I assume there are no security updates needed for 1709 if I have no security update?  You are 100% correct about today’s blog post!

            • #238175 Reply
              PKCano
              Da Boss

              Security-wise: Patch Tues’s CU, the SSU, the Flash update and MSRT should be all you need for Windows – plus whatever other products you have (like Office, for example)

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      • #238049 Reply
        abbodi86
        AskWoody_MVP

        Version 1607 got new cumulative
        KB4478877 (OS Build 14393.2641)

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        • #238063 Reply
          woody
          Da Boss

          I saw that last night. Something about SNAT port release

          “As a result, the SNAT port becomes exhausted.”

          Yeah, me too.

          Wonder why it was so important that they pushed it on a Monday?

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