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    Hi–Been with 7 for a very very long time (and still have 1) but just got a Windows 10 machine for better security options. Lots to learn! Yikes!

    First of all, to find out about patches and updates, which version of Windows 10 do I go to on AskWoody? I asked the seller and he said there is only Windows 10 Pro 64 bit. But even if that’s true, I still don’t know where to go.

    I feel like SUCH a newbie.

    Thanks for all help.

    BTW I did get blocked coming to the site, and turned off my vpn and got in.

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    • #2341581

      Firstly, you want to have some control over the updates in W10/
      Suggest you read AKB2000016 to start with.

      TIP: Choose the TRV method it’s far easier to manage long term.

      Keeping IT Lean, Clean and Mean!
    • #2341582

      I asked the seller and he said there is only Windows 10 Pro 64 bit

      To find out which version of Windows 10 you are running write winver in the search box and click enter.

    • #2341606

      Thank you Microfix. I read the recommended entry here.Looks excellent and very thorough but a bit overwhelming, to be honest. So I will ask a simpler question. I clicked on Security and everything has a green check next to it. However, though it says up to date, the last update is 9/13/2020. I tried a manual update and then read: Security intelligence version 1.323.1086.0 Version created on 9/13/2020 4:45AM. SO I think this might be an outdated version.

      The next line says last update 9/13/2020 10:28 AM. Thus, only a few hours after new (old) version.

      Any thoughts as to how get the latest  Security intelligence version and then see if it is updating?

      I know this is sounding very Group A at the moment, and I may just have to do that until I understand things better.

      Thank you!

      hff (found my username–been awhile since I’ve posted)

      • #2341612

        If you plan on sticking with Windows Defender/Microsoft Defender for your anti-malware/anti-junkware solution, then yes your installation of it is very outdated.

        Those updates you noted in your post are actually definition updates for Windows Defender/Microsoft Defender that comes with Windows 10. It is on by default unless you install a 3rd party anti-crapware/anti-junkware solution.

        Once you get connected to the internet, it should automatically seek out updates for itself and install them. If it doesn’t, please follow the instructions in the next couple of paragraphs to update it manually.

        To update it manually, it sounds like you’ve almost done everything you need to do, but here’s one way to do it (remember that with Windows, there can be numerous ways of doing the same thing) once you get your internet connection going for the new machine:

        In the system tray area of the desktop in the lower right corner, there should be an icon that looks like a white shield and it should have a green check mark on it from what you’ve described above, but it might have a yellow exclamation point on it instead. Left click on it (just a single click) and that will bring up the Windows Security main window, which you’ve probably already seen, from the sounds of your post above. Now, click on the “Virus & threat protection” item. Now, scroll down a bit to show the item labeled “Virus & threat protection updates” and click on the blue wording below it that says “Check for updates”. In the resulting window, click the grey button labeled “Check for updates” and it should endeavor to check for them and automatically download and install them.

        I know that, coming from Windows 7, a grey button seems to automatically mean that something’s not available, but in this case it is available.

        If it succeeds in getting the latest updates for itself, you should be very close to Security intelligence version 1.331.466.0. The version number is current as of the writing of this post at 3:41 pm server time on February 7th, 2021.

        Please let us know how this goes.

        • This reply was modified 2 years, 3 months ago by Bob99. Reason: typo correction
    • #2341607

      Update. When I tried Alex5723 suggestion for finding my OS version, I got a notice that not connected to the web. Doh! that is probably why things aren’t updating. So next I will learn now to connect to the web.

    • #2341626

      Update: Connected to web. Updated fine. Forget all the questions about how to update Defender Antivirus.

      On to Windows Update. I note that AskWoody is currently at Defcon 4 and will be changing tomorrow. Would it be okay to just click on Windows Update? If I do that, is there a particular order for updating the various sections?  Below is the current status list:

      Features:  version 2004 installed 5/27/2004.  (maybe skip this?)

      Quality Updates (3)

      2020-09 Cumulative .NET framework 3.5 and 4.8 Windows 10 Version 2004 for x64(KB457648) successfully installed 9/12/2020

      2020-09 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 2004 for x64 based Systems(KB4571756) successfully installed 9/12/2020

      2020-06 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 2004 for x64 based Systems (KB4561600) Successfully installed on 9/12/2020

      then 10  driver updates all done successfully on 9/12/2020

      then 3 Defender updates which are listed here as 9/12 and 9/13 but over in security where I just updated, it has the current date

      then Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64-v5.83 (KB890830) successfully installed on 9/12/2020

      Any and all help appreciated. Thank you.

      hjf

       

       

    • #2341630

      addendum: Thanks, Bob99, for your extensive reply. For now I plan to use the built-in Windows antivirus and Firewall. Later I may go to third party options, as I have done with Windows 7 (of course).

      hjf

    • #2341698

      is there a particular order for updating the various sections?

      Windows will update in the order required. All you need to do is check that updates have been applied recently.

      cheers, Paul

      p.s. the other thing you need to do is backup

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