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    It’s DefCon Tuesday again. We are still waiting to hear how we are going to control the Windows 10/11 ‘moment’ releases – those incremental dribble up
    [See the full post at: November updates are here]

    Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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    • #2496464

      AKB 2000003 has been updated for Group B Win7 (ESU) and Win8.1 on Nov 8, 2022.

      There is a Security-only Update for those with Win7 ESU subscriptions.
      There is a November IE11 CU KB5019958 for Win7 ESU subscriptions.

      November Rollup KB5020000 Download 32-bit or 64-bit for those with Win7 ESU subscriptions.

      ********** UPDATE – Note changes:
      You must have at least the September 2022 Servicing Stack KB5017397 previously installed to receive these updates – Download 32-bit or 64-bit  for those with Win7 ESU subscriptions.

      There are .NET Framework updates listed for Win7. See #2496434.

      ****** NOTE: ********
      Microsoft has released a new ESU Licensing Preparation Package KB5016892 for the extension of Win7/Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 ESU on Aug 25, 2022. Requires SHA-2 KB4474419 (9/23/2019 or later) and SSU KB4490628 (3/12/2019).

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      • #2497016

        UPDATE:

        Note changes to the Servicing Stack requirements above.

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    • #2496462

      Myriad of .NET updates

    • #2496480

      Susan Bradley Patch Lady

      • #2496491

        Yes. Hmmmm……
        Not much to tell you what it does (typical MS).

    • #2496481

      Windows 11 got separate updates for Windows 11 22H2 (KB5019980) and 21H2 (KB5019961).

      Isn’t that unusual ?

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      • #2496483

        I think it showcases that unlike the 10 series they are different forks on that codebase.

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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      • #2496514

        What’s unusual in that? Windows 11 21H2 and 22H2 are totally different separate builds, much like Windows 10 21H2 and 1809

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    • #2496496

      Win10 Pro 22H2 (x86 and x64)
      kb5019959Cumulative Update
      kb5020694 NET 3.5, 4.8 and 4.8.1
      No problems to report post installation on either device.

      Current OS Build 19045.2251
      DISM reports no component store corruption detected
      SFC /Scannow reports no violations
      Local USB Canon Pixma printer works fine.

      Usual O&OShutup++ changes post CU installation on restart
      Edge launch in background (don’t use it)
      Cortana disable cloud search
      Disable application telemetry

      WaaS = Windows as a Syphon...suckers!

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      • #2496695

        Part Two of November Updates:

        Win8.1 Pro x64 (three devices)
        kb5020023 Cumulative Update (SMQR)
        kb5020620 .NET 4.8 Update
        No issues:or sfc violations encountered with dism reporting no corruption.
        So far, stable, more-secure and zipping along nicely on SSD’s.
        Canon Pixma printer attached to one device works as intended with no user intervention required.

        I’ll miss the reliable Win8.1 come EoS post Jan 2023 🙁

        WaaS = Windows as a Syphon...suckers!

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    • #2496497

      Guinea Pig Update
      Version and build after update: Win11Pro 22H2.22621.819 x64

      Downloaded, installed via WUMgr without error; rebooted without error.

      • 2022-11 .NET Core 3.1.31 Update for x64 Client (KB5020930)
      • 2022-11 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8.1 for Windows 11, version 22H2 for x64 (KB5020622)
      • 2022-11 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5019980)
      • Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – v5.107 (KB890830)
      Carpe Diem {with backup and coffee}
      offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender
      offline▸ Acer TravelMate P215-52 RAM8GB Win11Pro 22H2.22621.674 x64 i5-10210U SSD Firefox106.0 MicrosoftDefender
      online▸ Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1194 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox110.0b6 MicrosoftDefender
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    • #2496516

      Hardened Windows user

      Updates

      No hiccups.  Now running Windows 11 Pro Version 22H2 (OS Build 22621.819).

      Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
      We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do. We don't all have to do the same things.

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    • #2496534

      No issues to report on two Windows 8.1 Pro systems.

      After taking a Macrium image of the system, installed the Monthly Rollup (KB5020023) and Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.6.2, 4.7, 4.7.1, 4.7.2, 4.8 for Windows 8.1 for x64 (KB5020690) via Windows Update.

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    • #2496546

      Win11Pro 22H2.22621.819 x64

      2022-11 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5019980)

      2022-11 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8.1 for Windows 11, version 22H2 for x64 (KB5020622)

      2022-11 .NET 6.0.11 Update for x64 Client (KB5020743)

      2022-11 .NET Core 3.1.31 Update for x64 Client (KB5020930)

      Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – v5.107 (KB890830)

      All were installed without problems.

       

      --Joe

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    • #2496593

      It’s DefCon Tuesday again. We are still waiting to hear how we are going to control the Windows 10/11 ‘moment’ releases – those incremental dribble up
      [See the full post at: November updates are here]

      Susan also quoted:
      Windows 11 22H2 (2022 whatever you want to call it) still has the file copy bug: “… local file copy might also be affected. …”

      I can (and dare) recommend Teracopy for copying and moving GB-large files within Windows.

      1 Desktop W11
      1 Laptop W10
      Both tweaked to look, behave and feel like Windows 95
    • #2496603

      I can (and dare) recommend Teracopy for copying and moving GB-large files within Windows.

      I use TeraCopy Pro for years and with the new Windows 10 21H2 and 22H2 I have a sever 1Gb network copy problems. Copy speed drops after ~30-40% from 100MB/s to 5MB/s.

      I left a post over at TeraCopy forum months ago. No response from developers.

      • #2496621

        a severe 1Gb network copy problems. Copy speed drops after ~30-40% from 100MB/s to 5MB/s.

        That would be funny if it weren’t so annoying.

        As for me, I just copied, from one SSD to another, a 4,3 GB videofile at more than 550 MB per second by dragging and dropping in two instances of TreeSize Free. See the screenshots of copy begin, middle and end. (I had to really actually hurry to get the screenshots and the last one was pure luck!)

        1_copy_begin
        2_copy_middle
        3_copy_end
        I suggest your copy problem might reside somewhere else than in Teracopy.

        1 Desktop W11
        1 Laptop W10
        Both tweaked to look, behave and feel like Windows 95
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          Copying a 8GB files over the network with TeraCopy Pro

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      • #2496794

        No drop teracopying 30gb file to and from nas over smb on 21h2 at 2.5Gbps.

        I like teracopy because it preserves dates like robocopy.

    • #2496608

      Windows 10 22H2 Pro.
      Installed Nov. updates.

      Everything OK.

      Winver : 19045.2251

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    • #2496669

      Susan, I installed all updates without incident. Now operating on 21H2 Pro (OS Build 19044.2251). No printing/scanning issues.

      Peace, CAS

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    • #2496731

      As for me, I just copied, from one SSD to another, a 4,3 GB videofile at more than 550 MB per second

      When I copy big files from external USB-C SSD to internal HDD speed is 120MB/1Gb/s.
      The copy problem is with copying to a networked HDD.

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    • #2496916

      I’ve been trying to read the KB articles on the Kerberos protocol changes in the Nov updates, and I’ll admit I’m confused.  We have a pretty straight forward domain setup.  Trying to understand whether we are/aren’t impacted by the potential changes.  Susan mentioned that “There is an update that may impact older Server 2003 servers connected to a domain.”  We only have 1 server in our domain that is Server 2012 R2.  All the others are Server 2016/2019, and all workstations are Win 10 21H2.  Both DC’s are Srvr 2016.  Does anyone know enough from those details to know whether I’d be impacted by the changes or not?  I apologize ahead of time if my question is too vague.

    • #2496952

      I was about to report no problems with the three updates KB5019959 (Win10 21H2 x64), KB5020687 (.NET) and KB890830 (malware scanner) for Windows 10 Pro 21H2. I have 5 “guinea pig” machines, and none experienced any obvious issues. However, on the 6th machine, KB5019959 did not show up and still has not after repeated “unpause” actions in the past 12 hours. Now, reports from our other machines at multiple different locations seem identical – the KB5019959 update is being held back from the WUA service for some reason.

      Anyone know why this update is not showing up?

      I’m not seeing an issue being reported here – https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/november-8-2022-kb5019959-os-builds-19042-2251-19043-2251-19044-2251-and-19045-2251-f65e0600-2135-4efd-a979-08d1df34dce8

      Nor at other sites like ghacks, zdi, bleeping, etc.

       

      Basic research is what I am doing when I don't know what I am doing - Werner Von Braun

      • #2496957

        Checked over your GPedit: Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update – WUfB settings?

        WaaS = Windows as a Syphon...suckers!

      • #2496958

        One user has reported it is available through the WUA, but still not for me.

        And yes, I know I can download it from the Microsoft catalog site.

        Basic research is what I am doing when I don't know what I am doing - Werner Von Braun

    • #2497310

      Along with the November updates reported by Windows Update for my PC, I found an update called “Security Update for Windows 8.1 for x64-based Systems (KB2920189)” that is 10.1 MB and is dated 11/11/2014. I haven’t made any changes to my Windows 8.1 Pro system since long before the last monthly updates, so why would this 8-year old update be popping up now?

      I searched around and it is described as a rollup of revoked noncompliant UEFI modules and it applies to systems that do not have KB2919355 installed, which is also not installed on my system. There was some concern back in 2014 that KB2920189 interfered in some way with secure boot. Apparently some people had to turn off secure boot to install the update and then turn it back on again to avoid getting locked out of their system, but it sounds like most people had no problems with KB2920189.

      But why would this update be popping up after 8 years? I have gotten along all this time without it, so when it comes time to install the November updates, should I ignore it or install it? Thanks.

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      • #2497312

        Well, I see I’m not alone.

        I’m getting KB2920189 in my Win 8.1 Update.
        I tried to run this down from the MS Doc on KB2920189. It referred to sec advisory 2962824 (the link didn’t work).
        It also referred to KB2919355, which was already installed.
        I did not install KB5012170, the secureboot/UEFI patch which was in the Aug 2022 Patch Tuesday lot (still not blessed on the Master Patch List)

        So I’m still in the dark on this one also. Holding off on Nov updates till I find more info.

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        • #2497338

          I installed KB5012170 back on September 5, though I don’t remember doing it. I don’t think I’ve experienced any problems, but I wonder if KB2920189 popping up in Windows Update might be related to that. Both have to do with secure boot/UEFI. I don’t know if I should just leave everything as it is for now, or if I should attempt to uninstall KB5012170. Maybe KB2920189 will disappear from WU if I uninstall KB5012170? But I kind of think I will leave everything alone until there is more to go on.

          Thanks.

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          • #2497341

            If it’s working for your system, don’t try and fix it.
            I have that secureboot/ UEFI patch on two Win8.1 devices with mbr and they are both behaving (haswell/ ivybridge) however, my old test laptop didn’t like the patch (also on mbr) so is hidden in WU and behaving also.
            All updated with November 2022 CU and .NET4.8 patches.

            WaaS = Windows as a Syphon...suckers!

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          • #2497342

            Did an image backup. Did a data backup.

            I am in the process of doing Nov updates on that Win8.1 now.  I am including KB2920189 and KB5012170 which (was hidden and which Susan still has not blessed).

            Check back tomorrow and see if I had to do a restore, or if everything looks hunky-dory. That Win8.1 is one of my daily drivers, so I can’t abide any foolishness from it.

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        • #2497398

          My situation is the same as @PKCano‘s. I’m being offered KB2920189. I have KB2991355 installed but not KB5012170. Went down a rabbit hole when I went to the support page for 2920189. I’m sitting tight for a while. I might just stop updating my 8.1 machine and take it offline, or maybe try installing Win 10 22H2 when the all clear is sounded.

      • #2497367

        Well, this is really weird.
        WU showed KB5020023 (SQMR), KB5020690 (.NET Rollup), KB2920189 (??), KB5012170 (Aug secureboot/UEFI that I unhid) and KB890830 (MSRT).

        What actually installed:
        KB890830 (MSRT)
        KB5012170 (Aug secureboot/UEFI that I unhid)
        KB5020620 (.NET 4.8, version installed, from the bundled .NET 3.5/4.8/4.8.1 Rollup KB5020690)
        KB5020023 (SQMR)
        KB2975061 – the May 2014 Servicing Sack.What???? You can’t search it in the Catalog, but the MS Doc is linked on the MS Download page. According to that Doc,

        About servicing stack

        The servicing stack includes the files and resources that are required to service a Windows image. This includes the Package Manager executable, the required servicing libraries, and other resources. The servicing stack is included in all Windows installations.

        Note We recommend that you install update 3021910 as it contains additional improvements that more comprehensively fixes the problem than this update.

        The KB3021910 mentioned is the April 2015 Servicing Stack, which was installed on 2/22/18 when this OS was originally installed on the machine.

        The Win8.1 has been restarted several times. The A/V is working. The printer works. I have opened several app without problems. So I guess things are OK. No image restore today.

        I’m going to miss my stable, solid version of Windows come January.

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    • #2497973

      Hi Susan:

      Windows Update successfully installed the following Nov 2022 Patch Tuesday updates on my Win 10 Pro v21H2 laptop and I haven’t noticed any negative effects so far:

      • KB5019959: 2022-11 Cumulative Update for Win 10 Version 21H2 for x64 (OS Build 19044.2251)
      • KB5020930: 2022-11 .NET Core 3.1.31 Update for x64 Client
      • KB5020743: 2022-11 .NET 6.0.11 Update for x64 Client
      • KB5020687: 2022-11 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.8 and 4.8.1 for Win 10 v21H2 for x64 (includes security patch for CVE-2022-41064)
      • KB890830 : Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – v5.107

      There was one minor glitch during the installation. As soon as KB5020687 (2022-11 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.8 and 4.8.1) finished installing Windows Update prompted me “Restart Now“, even though KB5019959 (2022-11 Cumulative Update for Win 10 Version 21H2 / OS Build 19044.2251) had not finished installing. However, I see this every time a MS .NET Framework update is delivered during a Patch Tuesday update (see my post # 2478258 in your September Updates Get Released for one example) so I know enough to wait until Windows Update has finished installing all updates before I restart to finish the installation process.

      Win-10-Pro-v21H2-Nov-2022-PT-Updates-Restart-Now-Before-Updates-Finish-Installing-14-Nov-2022
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      Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v21H2 build 19044.2251 * Firefox v106.0.5 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.2210.6-1.1.19800.4 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.5.17.221-1.0.1806 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7090

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      • #2498068

        If you are closely watching the updates play out in Windows Update, here is something else I have observed. After the CU downloads (you never see the SSU in the list), you may get two (2) 100%s during the install, one fairly quickly and another following for longer time running. Seems the CU is installing twice. But it is my guess that is due to the SSU installing first and then the CU.

        • #2498347

          … it is my guess that is due to the SSU installing first and then the CU.

          Hi PKCano:

          This early “Restart Now” prompt never appears when the monthly cumulative Quality Update is the only update being installed that requires a restart to finish the installation, so I don’t think the installation of the bundled SSU is the trigger. For example, see my post # 2488267 for a full list of updates that were installed on my system during the October 2022 Patch Tuesday updates; in a month like October 2022 there is no early “Restart Now” prompt.

          This glitch only happens on a Patch Tuesday when a MS .NET Framework update is available, which also requires a system restart to finish the installation. As soon as the status of the MS .NET Framework update changes from “Installing – 100%” to “Restart Pending” Windows Update will “jump the gun” and I immediately see the early prompt in my system tray to restart my system, even though my monthly cumulative Quality Update (which is always the last available update to finish installing) is still installing.

          I’m not overly concerned about this glitch since I know now that I should always check the progress of my Patch Tuesday updates at Settings | Updates & Security | Windows Update before I go ahead and choose “Restart Now”. I just mentioned it as a warning to other users who allow Windows Update to manage their updates.
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          Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v21H2 build 19044.2251 * Firefox v106.0.5 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.2210.6-1.1.19800.4 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.5.17.221-1.0.1806 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7090

          • #2498379

            The SSU doesn’t trigger a restart, but I’ve see WU count two 100%s during the CU update (if you watch it).

    • #2498057

      As soon as KB5020687 (2022-11 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.8 and 4.8.1) finished installing Windows Update prompted me “Restart Now“, eve

      Using WUmgr instead of Windows update you won’t get any ‘restart now’ in middle of updates.

    • #2500316

      kb5020023 on Windows Server 2019 broke file/print sharing on an old XP box I am using as a print server. Unable to access any of the shares from any device newer than XP using the netbios name. Had to change to using the IP address. This one took awhile to figure out the cause.

      • #2500323

        Did you install the out of band update I’m recommending that you install in addition to the november patch?

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady

    • #2505398

      regarding KB5012170, that update is also available for Win11 22H2 as well and it seems MS is recently “pushing” the KB5012170 update, according to Neowin:
      https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-pushes-windows-11-22h2-secure-boot-dbx-update-thats-known-to-be-bug-ridden/

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    • #2507143

      Is it safe to uninstall kb5012170?

      I get 2-3 dozen entries for this error every 24 hours:

      Autopilot.dll WIL error was reported.

      HRESULT: 0x80070491

      File: onecoreuap\admin\moderndeployment\autopilot\dll\dllmain.cpp, line 191

      Message: NULL

      I can stop the error by disabling Microsoft Account Sign in Assistant in services, but then I can’t sign in to my Microsoft Account or the Microsoft Store.

      https://www.thewindowsclub.com/autopilot-dll-wil-error-was-reported-in-windows

      I almost never do either and I have a note stuck on my monitor base reminding to enable it if I ever want to sign in to either.

      Some places say it has to do with an enterprise account. I have Windows 10 Home 22H2.  It is a desk top computer and lives at my house.  I have never been connected to a school or office or any other remote connection.  In fact, Windows 10 HOME does not support remote connections.

      This error appears to have started August 23, 2022. This coincides with the date that 2022-08 Security Update for Windows 10 Version 21H2 for x64-based Systems (5012170) was installed.

      The error has continued the same after I recently updated to 22H2.

      This update, kb5012170, still shows on my list of updates.  Is it safe to just uninstall it?

      Thanks.

       

      HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
      Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
      OS build 19045.2486
      Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
      Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
      -Version 2211(Build 15831.20208 C2R)

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      • #2507146

        Make a full disk image backup.
        Uninstall it.
        If you have a problem, restore the image.

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        • #2507280

          Well I uninstalled kb5012170 and nothing happened.  I mean literally nothing.  The error is still populating my event viewer.

          Autopilot.dll WIL error was reported.

          HRESULT: 0x80070491

          File: onecoreuap\admin\moderndeployment\autopilot\dll\dllmain.cpp, line 191

          Message: NULL

          As far as I can find the only thing that shuts down the error is disabling Microsoft Account Sign in Assistant.  I’m not the only one who has had this error pop up, no one knows any other solution.

          I think this is one of those nonsense errors in the event viewer and am considering just disabling the log.  As you can see from the attachment there are four sub logs. The Admin, Autopilot and Diagnostics logs are blank, empty.  Only the Management Service is recording errors.  No one knows why.  Maybe I could just disable that one?

          What do you think?

          HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
          Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
          OS build 19045.2486
          Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
          Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
          -Version 2211(Build 15831.20208 C2R)

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        …I get 2-3 dozen entries for this error every 24 hours: Autopilot.dll WIL error was reported. HRESULT: 0x80070491 File: onecoreuap\admin\moderndeployment\autopilot\dll\dllmain.cpp, line 191 Message: NULL I can stop the error by disabling Microsoft Account Sign in Assistant in services, but then I can’t sign in to my Microsoft Account or the Microsoft Store….This coincides with the date that 2022-08 Security Update for Windows 10 Version 21H2 for x64-based Systems (5012170) was installed.

        Hi mpw:

        To date I’ve had 389 of these ModernDeployment-Diagnostics-Provider errors logged in my Event Veiwer starting 06-Dec-2022 (see attached image), which happens to be the same day I updated my Win 10 Pro OS from v21H2 (Build 19044.2251) to v22H2 (Build 19045.2251). I don’t know if that’s a coincidence or if my Event Viewer has already purged older events ModernDeployment-Diagnostics-Provider logs, but I noticed that Douglas reported in post # 2492000 of Susan Bradley’s 25-Oct-2022 topic MS-DEFCON 4: Install or Defer Updates? Your Choice that these same errors started on their Win 10 Home OS after they updated from v21H1 to v22H2.

        KB5012170 (Security Update for Secure Boot DBX: August 9, 2022) was installed on my Win 10 Pro system on 12-Aug-2022 during my August 2022 Patch Tuesday updates without incident, but that might be because I have BitLocker encryption (Control Panel | System and Security | BitLocker Drive Encryption) and Secure Boot disabled. See my 03-Sep-2022 post # 2474548 in SteveTree’s Danger for Dell? for comments I posted about KB5012170 and BitLocker.

        Shortly after the v22H2 Feature Update was applied on my system on 06-Dec-2022 Windows Update pushed out KB4023057 (2022-10 Update for Windows Update Service Components for Windows 10 v22H2) that looks like it was released back in October 2022. However, I don’t think that is what triggered the ModernDeployment-Diagnostics-Provider logs since KB4023057 was installed by Windows Update on 07-Dec-2022, the day after these errors first appeared.

        These ModernDeployment-Diagnostics-Provider errors don’t appear to be causing any problems on my system, they aren’t being logged in my Win 10 Reliability Monitor, and when I run System File Checker (sfc /scannow) and DISM (e.g., DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth) commands from an elevated command prompt these scans don’t find any problems with my system files (see attached image I captured today).  As you noted, there have been widespread reports about these ModernDeployment-Diagnostics-Provider errors since ~ Oct 2022, so for now I’m going to ignore them until I can find a bit more information about the root cause. The suggestion in TheWindowsClub article Autopilot.dll WIL Error Was Reported in Windows 11/10 you referenced to disable the Microsoft Account Sign-in Assistant service might stop these errors but it doesn’t sound like a viable solution for me since I log in to Windows with my Microsoft Account and use MS Office 2019.

        I should note that I have been seeing some odd errors related to FirmwareTPM.exe logged in my Reliability Monitor since 19-Nov-2022. I assume this error is unrelated and has something to do with a diagnostic for my Trusted Platform Module (TPM), so I’ll start a new topic about FirmwareTPM.exe later today to see if anyone can provide insight about this executable.
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        Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.2251 * Firefox v107.0.1 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.2211.5-1.1.19900.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.5.18.226-1.0.1838 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7175 * Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019 Version 2211 Build 15831.20190 Click-to-Run

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        • #2507438

          Thank you for your response.  My sfc and DISM scans are also clean. And the errors are not being logged in my Reliability Monitor, which is clean and shows no errors.

          My Windows Home version does not have Bitlocker, so I got KB5012170 when offered on 8/23/2022 (I missed the warning, thought it was all about Bitlocker which I don’t have) The only other thing downloaded 8/23/2022 was Servicing Stack 10.0.19041.1852.

          These errors began in my event viewer the same day, 8/23/2022.  At that time, I was on Windows10 Home 21H2.  The errors continued after 12/7/2022 when I downloaded the enablement package and I now have 22H2.

          I don’t think KB4023057 is the problem either. That has been on and off my computer several times over the years. I got it again 12/7/2022 and went to aps and uninstalled it.  These errors continue whether the ap is installed or not.

          I can get along without Microsoft Account Sign-in Assistant.  I use a local account on my Windows 10 and my Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019 works without signing in. It just does not sync with my Microsoft Account which I don’t want or need.  And I don’t go to the Microsoft Store.  Mostly I just need to remember to turn the sign-in assistant back on if I do need my Microsoft Account.

          Well, it might be better to just let the errors roll along rather than disable the log or disable the account sign-in assistant.  I don’t know.

          I actually found some discussions about this from last Spring.  It’s been around for a while.

          Thanks again for your reply.

          HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
          Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
          OS build 19045.2486
          Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
          Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
          -Version 2211(Build 15831.20208 C2R)

        • #2507518

          I have installed KB5012170 on Aug 12 2022 and KB4023057 10 times.
          I have no events under ManagemntService

          Windows 10 Pro 22H2

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    • #2507171

      I’m making an image back up now as I do every Sunday morning.  I will try uninstalling kb5012170.

      If it causes problems I may be back for help restoring image.  Not sure how to do that.

      Thank you.

      HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
      Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
      OS build 19045.2486
      Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
      Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
      -Version 2211(Build 15831.20208 C2R)

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