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     EP 3 weeks, 6 days ago.

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    • #349568 Reply

      woody
      Da Boss

      Microsoft says that Win10 version 1903 will be in beta preview for a while, then pushed out to normal people in late May. That makes now a good time t
      [See the full post at: Now’s a good time to download and save a copy of Win10 version 1809]

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    • #349590 Reply

      Steve S.
      AskWoody Plus

      Done. One question I’ve always had but never asked about step 6: Other than the architecture or language, is there any difference between an iso having selected “Use the recommended options for this machine” and an iso having unchecked that box? I’ve always wanted the iso to be as broadly applicable to any x64 machines as possible and so have unchecked that box….

      Win7 Pro x64 (Group B), Win10 Pro x64 1809, Linux Mint + a cat with 'tortitude'.

    • #349593 Reply

      CADesertRat
      AskWoody Plus

      There are instructions by Eyes on Windows to find out what build you have downloaded if you want to.

      Patch Lady – downloading the 1809 iso

      Hope this helps

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      4 Win 10 Pro currently 1809 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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      • #349605 Reply

        Steve S.
        AskWoody Plus

        Thanks, good info. Using the dism command I find the 1809 iso I downloaded on 3-26-2019 was build 107 while the one downloaded today was build 379. Step 12 above showed them both as “10.0.17763.1” – which is clearly the version of the installer not of Win 10.

        Win7 Pro x64 (Group B), Win10 Pro x64 1809, Linux Mint + a cat with 'tortitude'.

        • #349609 Reply

          CADesertRat
          AskWoody Plus

          The one I downloaded earlier was .273 build but at least it was past the one that deleted files for so many. 🙂

          Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
          4 Win 10 Pro currently 1809 (3 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #349595 Reply

      jomargon
      AskWoody Lounger

      Translated Spanish/English by Google Translate

      Unchecking, gives three options Win 10 x86, x64 create an ISO of the two.

    • #349598 Reply

      KWGuy
      AskWoody Plus

      Great step by step info that even I can follow!!

      Question:  Approximately, how big of a flash drive will this .iso file require?

      Thanks!

    • #349602 Reply

      BATcher
      AskWoody_MVP

      Question: Approximately, how big of a flash drive will this .iso file require?

      For me in the UK, the .iso filesize was 3.96 GB (4,259,577,856 bytes) so, as PKCano says, an 8 GB USB flash drive will be required.

      BATcher
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      • #349767 Reply

        rc primak
        AskWoody_MVP

        There needs to be some overhead when creating Windows install media on a USB flash drive. I don’t know all the details, but 8 GB is the smallest size which works. These days I seldom see flash drives (from reliable manufacturers) any smaller offered for sale.

        -- rc primak

    • #349612 Reply

      kwerboom
      AskWoody Lounger

      I was one of those ‘anonymous’ commenters saying I would never download a copy of 1809. Well, I finally broke down and decided to download a copy ‘just in case’. My logic for jumping from 1803 to 1903 was that 1903 would be released at the beginning of April and then I would install thirty days later or roughly in the beginning of May after the pain of upgrading had subsided with Microsoft releasing some patches for 1903. Now it’s been announced that 1903 won’t be released until mid May, meaning I won’t be upgrading to 1903 until mid June. Considering how Microsoft will be targeting 1803 and older builds for immediate upgrade, I’d better have a copy of 1809 on tap just in case things get weird.

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    • #349629 Reply

      anonymous

      It’s ridiculous that you can’t directly download iso’s from a Windows-computer, it must always be done via this tool. If I visit this page via Mac or Linux-system, I just get the choice out of different ISO’s. Namelijk 1803 and 1810, so both are available in that situation. This tool should have been an optional extra link. Never understood this way of working. People that want and ISO want an ISO not a tool that decides for them what they will need.

      • #349633 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        People accessing the download site from Macs or Linux get redirected to the ISO download because they obviously cannot execute Windows .exe files. The ISOs from that site are often the originally released versions (not up to date). If you want one of those, go for it.

        If you want a more up-to-date version, use the Media Creation Tool which creates the version YOU want on your own computer.

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    • #349692 Reply

      James Bond 007
      AskWoody Lounger

      I just use HeiDoc’s Windows ISO Downloader to download Windows 10 isos if I want to. Simple enough to use. Requires .NET 4.x. Can also download older versions of the isos if you need to.

      Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

    • #349696 Reply

      laidbacktokyo
      AskWoody Lounger

      Could anybody here please confirm if ISO created thru MediaCrationTool includes the Enterprise version on win10, when commands like

      FOR /L %v IN (1,1,11) DO @dism /Get-WimInfo /WimFile:G:\sources\install.wim /index:%v|findstr “Name” return no info, in my case at least.

      Thanks.

       

      • #349769 Reply

        rc primak
        AskWoody_MVP

        https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/software-download/windows10ISO

        Sign in to the Volume Licensing Service Center  to download Enterprise editions.

        Sign in to your subscription on the MSDN Portal for MSDN downloads.

        Visit the Windows Insider site to download Insider Preview builds

        Visit the Download Academic Products page for Education editions (product key required).

        Pro and Home are the only editions supported by the Media Creation Tool.

        -- rc primak

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        • #349888 Reply

          Bluetrix
          AskWoody MVP

          I went to grab a copy and was offered two options. Of course this thread is about saving a copy, but a question slightly OT please.
          I was offered the option to Upgrade to this version or save via (media tool). Upgrade is different than update. Had I chose to Upgrade instead of saving, would it have wiped my existing OS and files and replace it with a fresh copy of 1809?

          Windows10 Home 1809 | Mint19 on VM

          • #349892 Reply

            woody
            Da Boss

            Yes.

            Microsoft frequently mixes the terms “upgrade” and “update.” This is one of them.

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    • #349844 Reply

      EP
      AskWoody_MVP

      usually the win10 v1809 media creation tool downloads the “CLIENTCONSUMER” versions of Win10 ESDs like 17763.379.190312-0539.rs5_release_svc_refresh_CLIENTCONSUMER_RET_x64FRE_en-us.esd, which creates an ISO image containing Home, Professional & Education editions of Win10 v1809 build 17763.379. the “consumer” multi-edition ESDs and ISOs do not include the Enterprise edition and that edition is only included in the “CLIENTBUSINESS_VOL” version of the ESD files

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    • #350023 Reply

      Lori
      AskWoody Plus

      For those less experienced, do I need to format the USB Flash Drive before downloading Windows 10 on it? To NTFS? I use SanDisk flash drives for file backup; but don’t format them. SanDisk article (https://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/289) says files bigger than 4GB need formatted. Correct for this download?

      Would I need to store a Windows 10 copy for both my Windows 7 desktop and my Windows 8.1 laptop? (Just in case?) If so, is it better to put copies on a separate flash drives, and not use the drive for anything else? Currently, the only spare FD I have with space is a SanDisk Ultra 3.0, 64GB drive. Thanks!

      Windows 7 64-bit SP1 Home premium|AMD Athlon II x4; Propus 45nm Technology|6GB
      Windows 8.1  64-bit|Intel Core i5 4200U|Haswell ULT 22nm|8GB

      • #350030 Reply

        Bluetrix
        AskWoody MVP

        do I need to format the USB Flash Drive before downloading Windows 10 on it? To NTFS?

        I will be corrected if I’m wrong, but I believe the Media Creation Tool will format it for you. This of course means anything on it will disappear.

        Windows10 Home 1809 | Mint19 on VM

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    • #350351 Reply

      mledman
      AskWoody Plus

      Would I need to store a Windows 10 copy for both my Windows 7 desktop and my Windows 8.1 laptop?

      No.  You can use the installation media as many times as you wish.  (If one computer is 32 bit and the other is 64 bit you would need a copy for each.)  Currently, Windows 7 and 8.1 keys are reported to still work for Windows 10 upgrades.  It is unclear how long this will last.

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      • #350383 Reply

        Lori
        AskWoody Plus

        Thanks! I thought when I read about the download, MS said it configured to the particular computer on which it was done. Also, thought MS said the download could only be installed on the computer on which the download was done.

        Not that I really want W10 on my W8.1 pc, or any pc for that matter–but thought it’d be wise to make a copy, if it’s free.

        Is this MS advice only applicable if download is saved to the computer, and not to a USB FD? Would it be a better to save it to the pc? Especially as the smaller FD I ordered hasn’t yet arrived, and I currently only have 64GB one. I didn’t know if there was a cut off date to get the download?

        • #350392 Reply

          Elly
          AskWoody MVP

          @Lori-

          You will be given a choice to configure to your machine, or to get a more universal ISO. I get the universal ISO. You can just keep the ISO on your computer, until you need it… then copy to the USB, then.

          Win 7 Home, 64 bit, Group B

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          • #350400 Reply

            Lori
            AskWoody Plus

            Hi Elly, I can’t thank you enough for advice! Solves my problem! 🙂

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    • #417976 Reply

      anonymous

      I may be the only user in this situation, but be aware you can’t run the tool unless you’re signed in as an Administrator, maybe even THE Administrator. I rarely invoke Administrator privileges, and usually right-clicking the app and clicking “Run as administrator” does the trick, but in this case, that doesn’t work – after going through all its “getting ready” activity it says you’ve got to be signed in as administrator, and the only option available is to close the app.

    • #427923 Reply

      rexr
      AskWoody Plus

      Hi anon, User Account Control and Administrator drives me crazy too. i use Winaero Tweaker at https://winaero.com/ to disable UAC and Windows Updates when needed. There are a hundred options in it to control Windows. Just remember what settings you changed, for the future…

      Today, on a DSL connection of 16Mbps, the MediaCreationTool v1809 downloaded Win10 v1809.434 in 28 minutes and then “Creating Windows 10 Media” in another 10 minutes on a USB3.1 drive (5Gbps). And it didn’t hassle me with administrator this and administrator that. Then i reenabled UAC because its a good idea, though bothersome.

      Intel&AMD builds, Win10H v1809 17763.348
      2 parrots and a cat
    • #1597312 Reply

      anonymous

      A WORD OF CAUTION:  This download will format (and erase) anything that is already on the drive that you choose to download to.  I decided to download to an external 2tb USB drive (which I was using as a third backup drive) and – shazam – everything else was deleted when this was created.

      Thank goodness it was a redundant backup, I can simply re-create it.  Others might not be so lucky

      • #1597505 Reply

        PKCano
        Da Boss

        Step 5. Choose the radio button Create installation media (USB flash drive, DVD, or ISO file) for another PC then click Next.

        The download does not automatically format and install Win10 unless you tell it to do so. If you follow the instructions, it creates an ISO file at the location of your choosing. You can then create a bootable install media from the ISO on a DVD or USB drive.

    • #1597973 Reply

      deuce120
      AskWoody Plus

      If someone wants to download a Windows 10 iso without using MCT, this link  – https://www.thewindowsclub.com/download-windows-10-iso-without-using-media-creation-tool – will give you some options. The main article is about using Microsoft Edge but in the comments section, there are tips about using Firefox, Chrome and Rufus. I have used the Firefox option under Windows 7 without any issues.

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