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      • #2303932
        PKCano
        Manager

        The patches have been released. There are 360 new entries for October, 2020 Patch Tuesday in the Microsoft Update Catalog. There are 1838 vulnerabilit
        [See the full post at: October 2020 Microsoft Patch Tuesday updates are rolling out]

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      • #2303933
        PKCano
        Manager

        AKB 2000003 has been updated for Group B Win7 (ESU) and Win8.1 on October 13, 2020.

        There is a Security-only Update for those with Win7 ESU subscriptions. At this time there appears to be no Oct. Cumulative Update for IE11.
        October Rollup KB4580345 Download 32-bit or 64-bit for those with Win7 ESU subscriptions.
        You must have August Servicing Stack KB4570673 previously installed to receive these updates)

        There is an October Servicing Stack for Win7 KB4580970 – Download 32-bit or 64-bit for those with Win7 ESU subscriptions.

        Also KB4578623 DST correction for Fiji Islands for those with Win7 ESU subscriptions.

        For those of you attempting to install Win7 updates for .NET 4.5.2 and later (patches with the .exe extension), see post #2287984 . Also see #2304011.

        There is a revised Licensing Preparation Package KB4575903 dated 7/29/2020 for Win7 ESU subscriptions, if you need it.

        There are re-releases of the July .NET Security-only patches (v3) and well as the normal Oct .NET Security-only updates for Win7 and Win8.1 ONLY.
        Re-released patches are KB4566466 for Win7 and KB4566468 for Win8.1.

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      • #2303940
        bbearren
        AskWoody MVP

        KB4578969 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10 Verion 2004 for x64
        KB4579311 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 2004 for x64-based Systems
        KB4580325 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 2004 for x64-based Systems

        installed successfully.  No hiccups, no issues.

        Edit:  updated the B side of my daily driver and my laptop as well—smooth sailin’ all the way.

        Edit: and my NAS.  It’s all good.

        Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
        "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
        "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

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      • #2303943
        anonymous
        Guest

        Updates Version 1909 installed with no problems…

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      • #2303947
        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        Win7 SMQR: KB4580345 and Security Only: KB4580387 patches.

        Fixed an issue in Graphics Device Interface (GDI) that could cause unexpected user interface experiences such as missing screen elements, screen flickering, or a trailing screen.

        hallelujah, it’s been recognised and hopefully fixed.

        Sources:
        https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4580345/windows-7-update
        https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4580387/windows-7-update

        Update: No more graphical anomolies 🙂


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      • #2303953
        geekdom
        AskWoody Plus

        Windows 1909 TestBeta
        October 13, 2020

        Checked for updates with WUMgr:

        • 2020-10 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64 (KB4578974)
        • 2020-10 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based Systems (KB4580325)
        • 2020-10 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based Systems (KB4577671)

        Installed updates from Windows Update:

        • 2020-10 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64 (KB4578974)
        • 2020-10 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based Systems (KB4580325)
        • 2020-10 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based Systems (KB4577671)

        I was prompted to reboot, so I rebooted without error, and checked for updates again using Windows Updates.

        2020-10 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based Systems (KB4577671) showed as pending, but when I went to update, it presented an error: 0xc1900401. I checked for updates again and it stated: You’re up to date.

        Under installed updates, all three updates showed installed.

        I rebooted, checked again, 2020-10 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based Systems (KB4577671) showed as pending, and got the same sequence of error and You’re up to date. I rebooted a third tine, got the same sequence. I then did a Disk Cleanup with Clean up system files. I rebooted a fourth time, checked for updates and none showed pending.

        I had WUMgr running an update on KB4577671 simultaneously the first time which may have borked the update process for this particular update. Disk cleanup with Clean up system files appeared to have resolved the problem.

        Beta Work {Got backup and coffee}
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        online▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.746 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox85.0 WindowsDefender TRV=2004 WuMgr
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      • #2303974
        Barry
        AskWoody Plus

        Updates Successfully installed. No apparent problems.

        Barry
        Windows 10 Home V 20H2

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      • #2303985
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        KB 4580352 — 2020-10 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player on Win8.1 and Win10.

        No Flash patch in the catalog for 1909 ?

        • #2303986
          PKCano
          Manager

          KB4580325 – it is the same for v1903 and v1909. (check 25 on the end, not 52.)

      • #2304004
        DRW
        AskWoody Lounger

        KB4578969 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10 Verion 2004 for x64
        KB4579311 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 2004 for x64-based Systems
        KB4580325 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 2004 for x64-based Systems

        installed successfully.  No hiccups, no issues.

        Edit:  updated the B side of my daily driver and my laptop as well—smooth sailin’ all the way.

        Edit: and my NAS.  It’s all good.

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        I had a brief hiccup when it hung restarting. But it seems to be running smoothly now.

        (And for those shocked at my risk, I created a mirror image backup before I started).

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      • #2304034
        anonymous
        Guest

        There are some pretty serious CVEs this time, included an ipv6 remote code execution vulnerability with a CVSS score of 9.8! Probably important to apply a mitigation even if you don’t want to install the patch yet.

        https://portal.msrc.microsoft.com/en-US/security-guidance/advisory/CVE-2020-16898

        • #2304125
          Paul T
          AskWoody MVP

          Most people don’t run IPV6 networks so router advertisements won’t show up, but an attacker with local network access can send such packets, making this a much less critical issue for home users.

          cheers, Paul

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          • #2304379
            anonymous
            Guest

            Most people don’t run IPV6 networks so router advertisements won’t show up

            I’m not sure if this is true anymore. Many networks, including home networks have ipv6 these days.

            but an attacker with local network access can send such packets

            Router advertisements are simply a type of ICMPv6. Although they are typically sent local multicast, they can be sent over the internet if not blocked with a firewall. Spoofing is a real problem, even without this kind of CVE, which is why RA guard exists.

            I wonder if this is a more critical issue for home users because they don’t configure their firewalls carefully and have professional features like router advertisement guard available.

      • #2304040
        Carl D
        AskWoody Lounger

        Another “brave soul” here again (with the appropriate Macrium Reflect images to fall back on if needed, of course).

        All ‘Patch Tuesday’ (actually Wednesday here in Western Australia) updates installed. No apparent issues so far.

        I’d still like to know why it takes so long to install Windows 10’s monthly updates? I probably could have clean installed Windows 10 twice (from a USB3 stick to a SSD) in the time it took for the monthly patches to download and install.

        The download part is quite fast, its the installation of the patches that takes ages – about 25 minutes for the whole exercise including the required reboot.

        Gigabyte GA-B250M-D3H Motherboard, Intel i5-7600 CPU, 32GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Graphics Card, 1x Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD, 1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD, Windows 10 Professional 20H2 64bit.

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        • #2304134
          geekdom
          AskWoody Plus

          The download part is quite fast, its the installation of the patches that takes ages – about 25 minutes for the whole exercise including the required reboot.

          As near as I can tell, an update removes the packages that it no longer needs and then adds the packages it needs. You are also getting the one-size-fits all treatment with all changes rolled into a single update.  In earlier days, updates were identified by function, they didn’t remove earlier incarnations, and there may have been as many as six or eight updates on patch day.

          Beta Work {Got backup and coffee}
          offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender TRV=1909 WuMgr
          offline▸ Win10Pro 20H2.19042.685 x86 Atom N270 RAM2GB HDD WindowsDefender WuMgr GuineaPigVariant
          online▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.746 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox85.0 WindowsDefender TRV=2004 WuMgr
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      • #2304133
        radosuaf
        AskWoody Lounger

        Hmmm… Windows 20H2 not offered.

        MSI H110 PC MATE * Intel Core i7-6700 * 2 x 8 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2133 MHz * Aorus Radeon RX 570 4GB * Samsung 840 EVO 250GB SSD * SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB SSD * Western Digital Blue 1TB HDD * DVD RW Lite-ON iHAS 124 * Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer PCI * Windows 10 Pro 20H2 64-bit
      • #2304159
        CraigS26
        AskWoody Plus

        Oct CU was Uneventful & about 12 minutes …. KB4577670 = SSU/ KB4577671 = Oct CU/ KB4578974 = showed the July date NetFrmWk Re-issue per Woody/ KB4577926 =  adds support for new HP Windows Mixed Reality Motion Controllers/ KB4580325 = Flash Player Security; Office ’16 C2R Manual Updates OK/ Macrium always on stand-by……..

        W10 Pro 20H2 / Hm-Stdnt Ofce '16 C2R / HP Envy Desktop-Ethernet/ 12 GB / 256G SSD + 1 TB HDD / i5-8400 Coffee Lake/ GP=2 + FtrU=Semi-Annual + Feature Defer = 1 + QU=0

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      • #2304238
        abbodi86
        AskWoody_MVP
      • #2304249
        EP
        AskWoody_MVP

        so woody, what do you think of this recent Bleepingcomputer article – US Cyber Command: Patch Windows ‘Bad Neighbor’ TCP/IP bug now:

        https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/us-cyber-command-patch-windows-bad-neighbor-tcp-ip-bug-now/

        patch or no patch (meaning wait until it’s safe)?

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        • #2304277
          Microfix
          AskWoody MVP

          also there’s another article published regarding a Windows Spoofing Vulnerability that abuses CAT files :

          Microsoft advises users to apply the October 2020 updates that contain fixes for both the CVE-2020-1464 and CVE-2020-16922 vulnerabilities.

          microsoft-fixes-windows-certificate-spoofing-bug-abusing-cat-files


          No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created IT- AE
      • #2304262
        Cameochi
        AskWoody Plus

        Hello everyone. Cameochi here. Even my dogs think I’m nuts but I installed the October 2020 updates today. Before attempting the install I created a restore point, backed up my user files to an external hard drive and created a USB recovery file – just in case. I no longer allow automatic updates as last November Microsoft installed the server version of the update instead of the one for Windows 10. What a nightmare that was. Still I like to stay up-to-date so I clicked on “Check for Updates” and off we went with K4579311. It was not fun and it was not quick but my system is now at 19041.572. I hope this really is the final version of Windows. It was not a quick and easy update so be prepared to spend some time on it if you decide to take the risk. My recommendation would be to do as Woody says and hold off for now. Happy computing everyone.

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      • #2304321
        anonymous
        Guest

        Just updated 1909 to 18363.1139

        no apparent issues

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      • #2304346
        anonymous
        Guest

        Hi from Berlin,

        Until last night (local time in Germany), I had been running Win 10 pro x64 v.1909 on my Intel NUC8i3BEH, with a Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 NVMe SSD, for about three weeks.

        As I do every patch Tuesday, just after the patches were released (19.00 local time), I looked around some of my regular sites (including this one).

        I read here that some people had had no problem with yesterday’s Win 10  updates, so I decided to take the plunge.

        To make a long story short, I was forced to update to 2004. It took a really long time to download and install (at least an hour on my WLAN), but in the end, it worked with no problems.

        This morning I rechecked for updates and was told I’m up to date.

        I’ve been using it all day and haven’t noticed any problems, or even any visible difference from 1909.

        The only thing worth noting is that after reboot following the updates, the program Classic Shell told me that it had to reconfigure itself to return my settings. It did this without incident.

        If it’s of any interest, on Monday I had set up the program ShutUp10. It appears to have had no influence on the update process.

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      • #2304401
        kiwisolutionz
        AskWoody Lounger

        V1909_W10_x64 Bit Still Possible?

        I too have the V1909_W10 file but am I right in reading a user was forced to update to V2004 or similar? I downloaded 1909 after many users liked the stability of the platform; is this still correct team or have I been on the road too long driving tankers (!) Cheers All ; >)

        If there is magic on this earth ... it's in the water.

      • #2304414
        PFC
        AskWoody Plus

        KB4578969 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10 Verion 2004 for x64
        KB4579311 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 2004 for x64-based Systems
        KB4580325 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 2004 for x64-based Systems

        yesterday I hid these 3 updates and this morning only KB4579311 is still shown as hidden, the other two did not install and don’t show anywhere.

        Any thoughts?

        • #2304418
          PKCano
          Manager

          Reminder: If you have Pause or Quality Deferrals set, available updates won’t show in the Windows Update queue

          • #2304446
            PFC
            AskWoody Plus

            it’s a pro system with only gpedit notification #2 on.
            so I need more thoughts.
            thanks

            • #2304503
              PFC
              AskWoody Plus

              so here is what I see now:
              KB4580325 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 2004 for x64-based Systems got installed today as per Control Panel installed updates and
              KB4578968 got installed today (called Update for Microsoft Windows) so is this one the same as KB4578969 for .Net?
              These two updates WERE hidden and got installed by Microsoft Magic.

              • #2304504
                PKCano
                Manager

                KB4578968 is the .NET update for v3.5 and 4.8.

                KB4578969 is not the same. It is the .NET update for Win10 v1607, which is not for your computer.

              • #2304511
                PFC
                AskWoody Plus

                I will continue to be cautious, I did not imagine what was offered for update, what I hid and what got installed.

      • #2304435
        anonymous
        Guest

        The KB4580345 (Rollup, Win7 x64) contains new files with version 11.0.9600.19846:

        ieframe.dll
        ieframe.oca
        mshtml.dll
        mshtml.tlb

        Those files are missing in the KB4580387 (security-only).

        In september those files were in the IE11 cumulative update KB4577010, but with the older version 11.0.9600.19811.

        A new IE11 cumulative update is not available, because the IE11 is out of support now.

        The installation of MS Edge Browser doesn’t change those files either.

        So how can I get those newer files without installing the rollup?

         

        • #2304551
          abbodi86
          AskWoody_MVP

          IE11 is not out of support
          it will be patched until 2029 at least

          this month there were no new security vulnerabilities related to IE11 or Microsoft Edge Legacy
          hence no new IE11 CU

          the updated IE11 files in this month CUs/Rollups are quality fixes

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      • #2304565
        IO8973
        AskWoody Plus

        Hi, I have now Windows 10 Home v. 1903 x64 Build 18362.900 (7/08/2019). The installation of Windows 10 to v. 2004 fails at 35%. The reason is because HVCI is switched ON they say (Hyper-V). Can I safely switch HVCI OFF in Windows-security – Core integrity protection? It’s the update 2004 they want to install. I made a full Windows Image Backup on an external HD.

        • #2304670
          Paul T
          AskWoody MVP

          You’d be better off starting a new thread for this.

          cheers, Paul

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          • #2304695
            IO8973
            AskWoody Plus

            Hi Paul, thanks for the reply. I will start by simply following the hint from Microsoft and switch this bit annoying HVCI off and see wat happens, if the installation of that 2004 update succeds, I will be satisfied of course.

          • #2304939
            IO8973
            Guest

            Ok solved!, following that mentioned procedure, could install the 2004 update smoothly and without any more special problems. 🙂

      • #2304575
        brian1248
        AskWoody Lounger

        The link to Ghack’s is bad on the October patch post.

        The link currently has “september” in the URL instead of “october”

        https://www.ghacks.net/2020/10/13/microsoft-windows-security-updates-september-2020-overview/

        it should be

        https://www.ghacks.net/2020/10/13/microsoft-windows-security-updates-october-2020-overview/

        Consequently, anyone taking the link gets a 404 error.

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      • #2304623
        DriftyDonN
        AskWoody Plus

        I have not been offered any updates by WU as of now. Last time checked was 13 Oct early in morning Eastern time but wu hasn’t checked since then. Any ideas why? Updates set to 2 in Gp Edit and quality updates set to 0. no pause set. I last installed patch 5 Oct for sept offers.

        Thanks

      • #2304965
        brian1248
        AskWoody Lounger

        I forget to reset my connection to metered (which has been my go to method for delaying things, along with wushowhide), so it downloaded and updated KB4577671 and KB4578974 (Windows 10 1909 Home).  I ran wushowhide to hide them, but I suspect that the download had already happened due to the non-metered connection.  No problems so far.

        However, it also downloaded and updated KB4577926 which does not show in Windows Update in settings Update History anywhere.  I know about it only because I also run Belarc Advisor, which told me about it.

        https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4577926/asset-update-for-windows-10-version-1903-1909-mixed-reality

        I had manually update the Flash Update already, KB4580325, and the Servicing Stack update was applied at that time as well.

      • #2304988
        EP
        AskWoody_MVP

        @woody

        Windows 8.1 security rollup KB4580347 security-only update KB4580358 may also block some 3rd party drivers

        so this problem occurs in Win8.1 as well as with most Win10 versions with their Oct. 2020 patches

        Born wrote about the issue almost recently:
        https://borncity.com/win/2020/10/16/windows-10-blockt-falsch-signierte-treiber/

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      • #2305034
        anonymous
        Guest

        Win 10 1909 Pro 64 bit.  Downloaded SSU KB4577670 and CU KB4577671 from the Update Catalog, standalone installed OK, 2 test systems stable for 2 days.

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      • #2305293
        fracky
        AskWoody Lounger

        “A reminder if you are on Windows 10 v1809 or v1903. It is time to think about moving to a later version. V1809 reaches EOS on 2020-11-10 and v1903 on 2020-12-08.”

        I believe 1809 EOS is 05/11/2021

      • #2305588
        Splorchess
        AskWoody Lounger

        Going to throw in my 2 cents on recent OCT patches.

        I work as a patch manager for a decently sized datacenter (We use VMWare). Today started our test/dev deployment cycle. Patches installed fine and servers rebooted and came up. Some of our 2008 R2 servers require a reboot order to get all their services to come back online properly. Upon their second reboot they started blue screening and failing to load windows. We tested rebooting some of the 2008 R2’s that weren’t part of any application and had the same issue. about 1/3 of the 2008 R2’s have failed to blue screen.

        I now get to spend the next few hours rolling back all the changes. I’ll be investigating the issue further tomorrow.

        Take care this cycle everyone.

        EDIT: Patches installed

        KB4580345 – Cumulative
        KB4580970 – Servicing stack
        KB4578952 – .NET
        KB4578955 – .NET
        KB4578623 – Update for 2008 R2

        Error Code : 0x0000007B

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      • #2305830
        arbrich
        AskWoody Plus

        Got lots of customers with printer issues after this month’s updates. Both local (USB) and network printers – there does not seem to be a pattern. HP, Lexmark, Brother, etc…

        Needed to delete and re-add the printer back then started working again.

        What a pain !!!

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      • #2306039
        David FB
        AskWoody Lounger

        I can corroborate this with an HP laser printer. It shows as off in Windows when powered up. Unplugging the USB and plugging it back in again, Windows beeps “finding” it and it works.

        This started earlier this year. I only print occasionally so am not sure when.

      • #2307054
        anonymous
        Guest

        #2305588

        I had the same issue with servers but with 2012r2 servers.
        Have you found a workaround for your issue?
        Thanks

        • #2307331
          Splorchess
          AskWoody Lounger

          I haven’t found a work around no. For us the issue was that the VMWare drivers for the virtual drives + changes to the registry were at fault. We were able to recover a broken VM by mounting the vmware tools, installing the driver for the virtual scsi drives, and then restoring the registry to pre-patching. We’re now working on trying to find why it is affecting some servers and not others.

      • #2307347
        barrym
        AskWoody Plus

        Not sure if this has been quoted somewhere but some interesting comments, imo.

        https://www.theregister.com/2020/10/26/micrsoft_in_brief/

      • #2309111
        GoneToPlaid
        AskWoody Plus

        My computers are Windows 7 x64 Group B for Windows Updates. I installed the October security only and .NET 4.8 updates on October 13. There were no issues. My two primary Win7 computers ran fine for two weeks before I decided to reboot them in order to do quick differential backups before installing some new software.

      • #2309140
        L95
        AskWoody Plus

        PK:   In your posting of October 13, 2020 (above) you stated “There is a revised Licensing Preparation Package KB4575903 dated 7/29/2020 for Win7 ESU subscriptions, if you need it.”   I asked you about this back on September 9th when Microsoft  came out with September update KB4577053 and the KB article for that update said in the  “prerequisite” section that the prerequisite was still the “Licensing Preparation Package (KB4538483) released February 11, 2020.”   Your response to me at that time was “it appears now that any of the License Prep Packs will suffice and so far they haven’t required the latest KB4575903.”   So I checked again now that Microsoft has issued the October security-only update KB4580387 ,  and it appears to me that the Microsoft article for that update still says that the prerequisite for it is the licensing package dated February 11, 2020.   So can I still get by with the licensing preparation package from February, rather than the one dated 7/29/2020?

        • #2309141
          PKCano
          Manager

          As far as I know, it you have any installed you are good. I don’t believe the latest one is mandatory.

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          L95
          • #2309153
            L95
            AskWoody Plus

            PK:  Thanks for your response.  Also, in your posting of October 13th,  you mentioned an October Servicing Stack KB4580970.   Do I need to install that before or after all of the other updates for October?  Normally it comes afterward,  but it’s a little confusing this month because there was no September Servicing Stack Update.

            • #2309200
              PKCano
              Manager

              For Win7, you put the Rollup or SO & IE11 CU, the SSU, and the .NET 3.5 all together in the folder with the installer, and the installer will take care of what needs to be done in what sequence. That is what the installer is for. Don’t try to second guess it.

              • #2309399
                L95
                AskWoody Plus

                PK:  Thanks,  but I’m confused by your response.  I follow the procedures in your AKB2000003,  but the word “folder” doesn’t appear anywhere in that article,  so I don’t know what you mean by “folder”.   And the second thing that confuses me is described as follows.  For installing the SO and the IE11 CU,   I follow the procedures in your Step B2 of AKB2000003,  which tells me to download the SO and the IE11 CU,  which are listed in  AKB2000003,  and it also tells me to install the SO first and the IE update last,  which is what I do,  simply by clicking on the downloaded file for the SO, letting it install,  and then clicking on the downloaded file for  IE,  and letting that one install.  But as far as SSUs are concerned,  I don’t think I’ve ever seen any SSUs listed for download in your AKB2000003.   But your response above says that I would need to put the SO,  the IE11 CU,  and the SSU and the .NET 3.5 all together in the folder with the installer;  but I’ve never done that,  because I haven’t seen that described in AKB2000003.   But what I do after Step B2 of AKB2000003 is I proceed to Step B3,   which is a check for updates.  And it’s in Step B3 that the  .NET 3.5 appears in the Windows Updates window along with other updates such as Office Updates.   But the SSU doesn’t usually appear in the Windows Updates window until Step B7,  which is a repeat check for updates.   But your response above seems to indicate that I should be getting the SSU and the .NET 3.5 manually somewhere on my own way before Step B7,  presumably during  Step B2.  But neither the word “SSU” nor the word “Servicing” appear in AKB2000003,  except one time,  where the word “SSU” appears in the list of updates;  but there it only appears for the September 2019 update but not for any of the other numerous updates that are listed.

                In summary,  your response above seems to indicate that each month I should be getting the SSU and the .NET 3.5 manually somewhere on my own, presumably during Step B2,  and then putting them into some sort of “folder”, but as I mentioned,  I don’t know what this “folder” is because it’s not discussed in AKB2000003,  and I’m not sure where I would manually get the SSU and the .NET 3.5  and I also don’t know at which step of AKB2000003  I would put them into the folder,  and I don’t recall ever getting them manually myself,  because  Steps B3 and B7 (which involves running a “check for updates”  and a repeat “check for updates”) usually brings those in automatically.  So could you please clarify all this for me,  because as I mentioned,  I don’t understand your response.   Sorry for such a lengthy response,  but it seems I had to use a lot of words to describe exactly why I’m confused by your response.

              • #2309411
                Paul T
                AskWoody MVP

                Folder = directory. They are interchangeable, but folder seems more popular these days.

                SSUs and NET updates are not released every month. Don’t fret if you don’t have any.
                The fact that updates appear after a check indicates all is well.

                cheers, Paul

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              • #2309440
                PKCano
                Manager

                Win7 is EOL. There haven’t been any updates for Win7 through Windows Update for standard users since since Jan. 2020. You cannot use AKB2000003 as a guide to updating unless you have purchased Extended Support.

                You have to EITHER buy the Extended Support (ESU) from Microsoft which allows some updates through WU (Rollup, SSU, .NET but not SO and  IE11 CU). In that case, you install the SO and IE11 CU in the standard method (download/manual install has not changed). The rest (.NET and the SSU) will install through Windows Update.

                OR
                use the Bypass method described in this thread.

                https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/standalone-installer-script-for-windows-7-esu-regardless-the-license/

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              • #2309602
                L95
                AskWoody Plus

                PK:   Thanks for your response.   I did purchase the Extended Security Updates back in January,  and have been using them every month since then.   With the help of this website,  I’ve had a trouble-free computer for ten years,  and with the Extended Security Updates,  I hope to have it for at least another two years,  which is apparently when Microsoft will no longer offer them.

                 

              • #2309660
                anonymous
                Guest

                The cost for ESU was about $60-$65 this year, 2020. However, it is my understanding that the cost will go up appreciably each year after the first year. So, next year’s cost may well be $120 or higher, for example. Time will tell, however. Something to take into consideration for your future plans with the beloved Windows 7.

                It was the most stable edition of Windows I’ve ever experienced. I loved the fact that when I initially set it up in mid 2010, it found and installed drivers for my system that just worked, right from WU!!. Too bad that (getting reliable drivers from WU) didn’t last, however.

              • #2309670
                Alex5723
                AskWoody Plus

                Unless you are a corporation paying for ESU is a mistake.
                ESU is ~$60 for the first year (2020), $120 for the second year (2021), $240 for the 3rd year (2022). Total = $420

                0Patch Pro with patches for Windows OS, Office, servers.. and many 3rd party apps is ~$26 a year. Total = ~$78.

              • #2309678
                Paul T
                AskWoody MVP

                And the update to W10 is free.

                cheers, Paul

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