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      • #40328 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        Just saw this: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3163644 Microsoft Office 2010 doesn’t start when EMET is enabled in Windows 7 or Windows Server
        [See the full post at: Office 2010 won’t start with EMET enabled, bug in KB 3146706 and KB 3125574]

      • #40329 Reply
        EstherD
        Guest

        Haven’t seen this one myself. Running Office 2010 and EMET on two laptops. Both have had KB3146706 installed for almost two months. No issues on either.

        But I’m still running EMET 5.2. Maybe only manifests with EMET 5.5? KB3163644 doesn’t say. (But it should.)

        And then we have a supposed workaround: “Disable EFT flag in EMET for Office 2010”.

        OK… but what the HEX is the “EFT flag in EMET”?! Not mentioned in *any* EMET manual I can find. And Bing can’t find any info on it, either. (Google helpfully suggests maybe I mean “EAF”. Well, maybe I do, but only MS really knows for sure.)

        Yet *another* stellar piece of documentation from MS. (And the grammar isn’t so good, either.)

      • #40330 Reply
        hansR
        AskWoody Plus

        this sounds similar to what i wrote here: https://www.askwoody.com/2016/an-official-fix-for-slow-windows-7-update-scan-times/comment-page-2/#comment-89474 (Malwarebytes AntiEyploit has shield settings which are similar to the ones in EMET.) I didn’t try with Office 2010, though; but just disabling AntiExploit did the thing for me for IE, FF & Chrome, while EMET 5.5 ran untouched.

        @Woody: EFT Flag ?? Typo or trash ?

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      • #40331 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        Not sure what you mean by EFT Flag….

      • #40332 Reply
        hansR
        AskWoody Plus

        EFT-Flag:

        Workaround: To work around this issue, you can do one of the followings: · Disable EMET for Office 2010. · Disable EFT flag in EMET for Office 2010.

        (from: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3163644)

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      • #40333 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        AHA! I don’t know if that workaround will work with this new incarnation. Good question!

      • #40334 Reply
        With WIngs
        Guest

        The Flag to disable is EAF & EAF+. This will let Office 2010, 2013, and 2016 run, even with EMET configured for ‘Maximum Security’.

      • #40335 Reply
        ch100
        AskWoody_MVP

        I had EMET installed few years ago when there was a known Internet Explorer vulnerability for which Microsoft did not have a patched yet, but was recommending EMET instead with Group Policies configured for that purpose.
        After few weeks when the vulnerability was patched through the regular Windows Update, I uninstalled EMET and never used it since.
        I found it too complicated to configure and maintain, with too many issues like this one which is described in this blog post.
        I am not sure why regular people use EMET, but I would be interested to know more about its usefulness which would counterbalance the annoyances which I already mentioned.

      • #40336 Reply
        abbodi86
        Guest

        EMET 5.52 is released and it seems to fix that
        https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=54264

        EMET 5.52 is a minor update from EMET 5.51 to address the following:
        • An issue with the EAF mitigation that causes some applications to hang on Windows 7 SP1.
        • A fix to the MSI installer to allow in-place upgrade behavior.
        • Removed EAF+ mitigation for Chrome from “Popular Software.xml”
        • Fixed import behavior for System Mitigations.

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