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      • #186803 Reply
        Susan Bradley
        AskWoody MVP

        Windows 10 1709 got another update today in the form of KB4093105.  Based on my read I think it’s fixing the pen issue that was introduced. There are
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      • #186878 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        First install caused crash on login.  Would bootup fine but any user logging in system would crash.  Booted into safe mode, uninstalled update, now everything OK.  Some driver(s) doesn’t like the update but still researching.  Will hold off on patching other systems for now.  This is the first 1709 Cumulative Update that’s given me problems.  If I’m going to roll the dice on re-tries, I might as well gamble on 1803 and see what happens!

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        • #187160 Reply
          anonymous
          Guest

          UPDATE:  So I’m still not sure why I was getting the crash described above (@Post#186878) after manual installation of the KB4093105 update.  When I try the Windows Update route, the update’s not offered.  It’s not offered on multiple systems of mine that are currently at build 16299.371.  This would indicate to me a couple of possible explanations:

          1. update is only offered if needed (I know others have gotten it via WU)
          2. update has been pulled

          For number 1 above, it still doesn’t explain what got installed on my manual attempt that contributed to the crashes.  I would think that if the additional fixes for 16299.402 didn’t apply that nothing new would have been manually installed.  Based on the long list of fixes, I can’t believe nothing applies.  This possibility definitely has be wondering about the “quality” of Microsoft’s Quality Updates.

          For number 2 above, I would expect that if it had been pulled or if there were issues that the KB article would have been updated.

          For now I will assume I don’t need the update.  Would that mean there are two builds of 16299 that are current:  build 402 for those that needed one of the fixes and build 371 for those that didn’t?  Perplexing at the least if not outright confusing.

          • #187162 Reply
            PKCano
            Da Boss

            In Windows Update, where do you have your settings – Semi Annual Channel or Semi Annual Channel (Targeted)?
            I may be wrong, but it was my impression that the CUs released on Patch Tuesday are the equivalent of the Win7/8.1 Rollups and represent the “finished” product. They are offered to SAC.
            The CUs released later in the month are equivalent to the Win7/8.1 Previews and are released to SAC(Targeted) as a forward looking set of fixes for the next month’s Patch Tuesday CU.
            If this is the case, that might be the reason you are not being offered the off-cycle CUs. You might try changing your settings and see if this is the case.

            • #187176 Reply
              anonymous
              Guest

              I’m at Semi-Annual Channel which is the new way of showing what the registry still shows as CBB (Current Branch for Business).  However, based on the description under Advanced Options in Settings, the Branch Readiness Level only applies to Feature Updates (FU) and not to Quality Updates (QU).

              I keep my FU deferral at 365 and my QU deferral at 30.  When I want to check for new QU’s, I lower the deferral from 30 to zero.  Once updated, I slide it back to 30.

      • #186890 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Windows 10 — The most Secure Annoying Windows Ever!

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      • #186893 Reply
        zero2dash
        AskWoody Lounger

        Showed up and installed with no issues on my 1709 Enterprise and 1709 Pro Group A VM’s this morning.
        (Neither VM is behind SCCM/WSUS currently so I can’t comment on whether the update appears in SUS or not.)

      • #186899 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        It’s not yet available in WSUS. But there are new revisions available of KB4093113 and KB4093118 for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2.

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        • #186904 Reply
          PKCano
          Da Boss

          Yes, for Win7/Server 2008 R2 the metadata has been changed to prevent the repeated reinstallation of KB4093118 after installing KB4093113.

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      • #186934 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Susan, Don’t claim anything is fixed just because the Microsoft noobs wrote it..

        Anyone on Windows 1709 should avoid any further updates; and wait for 1803 (when Woody says it’s ready for prime time). Windows 1709 was a waste of time from the beginning. The worst nightmare since Windows Vista.

        • #187895 Reply
          EP
          AskWoody_MVP

          wrong mr anonymous, especially about the part of avoiding any further 1709 updates.

          The 1709 release is working fine on my friend’s custom built PC (ASUS m5a78l-m le/usb3 motherboard, amd phenom II x4 955 cpu, 8Gb of DDR3 RAM, 320Gb western digital sata3g hd) running Win10 Pro x64 and found no problems, even with the KB4093105 update installed.

          it depends on the hardware being used. seems like most computers CAN handle the 1709 version of Win10 & some cannot.

      • #186937 Reply
        abbodi86
        AskWoody_MVP

        On related matter, Windows 10 got new intel microsode updates, in catalog:

        2018-04 Update for Windows 10 Version 1507 (KB4091666)
        2018-04 Update for Windows 10 Version 1607 (KB4091664)
        2018-04 Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 (KB4091663)
        2018-04 Update for Windows 10 Version 1709 (KB4090007)

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        • #187894 Reply
          EP
          AskWoody_MVP

          the KB4090007, KB4091663 & KB4091664 updates are now “V2” versions, than the ones originally released in March.

      • #186940 Reply
        krzemien
        AskWoody Lounger

        All good here post-install (as if I really have had any choice, that is…!)

      • #186945 Reply
        Mr. Natural
        AskWoody Plus

        It’s not yet available in WSUS. But there are new revisions available of KB4093113 and KB4093118 for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2.

        I just posted some findings in “total meltdown” after updating a server 2008r2 system with yesterdays KB4093118 as well as the latest bios update and that system is still be reported as vulnerable to both spectre and meltdown. So I question whether 4093118 is still doing what it is supposed to.

        Red Ruffnsore reporting from the front lines.

      • #186964 Reply
        columbia2011
        AskWoody Plus

        You need additional enable protection on Servers’s OS.
        https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4072698/windows-server-guidance-to-protect-against-the-speculative-execution

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        • #186973 Reply
          Mr. Natural
          AskWoody Plus

          OK looks like I do need the AV registry edit for that download to run. I’m going to run the registry edit and see if that update is available. Either way I’ll try running that update and we’ll see what happens. Thanks very much and I’ll be sure to update the situation.

          Red Ruffnsore reporting from the front lines.

          • #187216 Reply
            Mr. Natural
            AskWoody Plus

            That did the trick. Thank you columbia2011. I will update my original posting on this.

            Red Ruffnsore reporting from the front lines.

      • #187006 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        So basically we can say that Microsoft starts to roll out at least 2 huge updates per month, as is the case since the beginning of the year. That creates, by all means, an unworkable environment. Since most people (especially home employed ones) will have to run a tight backup schedule before and after those updates. Windows 10 became an unreliable mess that is not suited for professional use anymore. Its center of attention lies in gaming and other light home use. The amount and frequency of patches that are rolled out recently are a total joke. I don’t know any other os that is so frequently injected with serious bug fixes as Windows 10. Something is extremely wrong with it. Probably it just became too complex to maintain. Too many versions, too many possible hardware configuration etc. etc. Normally, a software company would go back to the drawing board in such a situation and start a new design from scratch. Don’t see that happen here, unfortunately. In my opinion Windows is running on its last legs, reaching the end of its useful life. For how long will its creators let it suffer any longer?

      • #187012 Reply
        Noel Carboni
        AskWoody_MVP

        Not that I’m not pleased to hear about this, but why on Earth would Microsoft consider the re-installation of removed Apps to be a problem? They’re doing it on purpose! These ridiculous, stupid Apps are at the center of their business model.

        I presume someone important, who pays Microsoft a lot of money for the Enterprise edition, must have noticed. Why does so much of what they do nowadays push the boundaries of what folks in their right minds would think is acceptable?

        I am imagining Microsoft will take steps to ensure specifically removed Apps are not reinstalled for the Enterprise edition.

        The rest of us might as well get used to seeing Candy Crush, et. al. reappear every 6 months. I will probably fall out of my chair if all the Apps I’ve removed DON’T actually get reinstalled in v1803.

        You might say, “Jaded much?” to which I would answer, “Most certainly I am.

        -Noel

      • #187175 Reply
        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        Microsoft’s Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 17650 aka Redstone 5 is rumoured to have a LEAN version of W10. By the word lean, my first thought was oh, are they getting rid of useless apps et al? 2Gb less in storage use Hurrah!

        But, no, not all. They seem to be removing the Registry Edit tools, Microsoft Management Console, Messaging, 3D Viewer, 3D print and other files in the link Lean Build.

        Isn’t this much like the W10s version then?

        Source: The Register

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      • #187330 Reply
        anonymous
        Guest

        Could it that this patch is withdrawn? Don’t see it appear here on any of my machines, more and more people report the same. Weird.

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