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    • #95495 Reply

      JohnW
      AskWoody Lounger

      I use CCleaner on a daily basis and it works great with Windows 10. Good for cleanup of temp files and browser cache. It lets you set cookies that you wish to keep, while stomping out the rest 🙂

      Speccy is a cool tool to inspect or review your installed hardware config. You can save a report with specs to share with support if needed. Also gives a good view of WiFi access points in reception range.

      http://www.piriform.com/products

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    • #102325 Reply

      GoneToPlaid
      AskWoody Lounger

      Yep, I use both programs as well. Note that CCleaner should NOT be used on any computer which is infected with malware. Only use CCleaner on a computer which is clean or which has been first and thoroughly disinfected of all malware and all malware remnants.

      Finally, never run CCleaner on a computer which has just been booted up. Why? Because and most likely, there are updater programs for various software which also automatically launch on startup. Those update utilities might still be running at the same time you run CCleaner. It is much better to run CCleaner at least 10 minutes after having booted your computer such that any auto-update programs have completed their update tasks, or running CCleaner just prior to rebooting.

      Speccy. What else can I say other than it is the handiest utility which I have come across for reviewing your computer’s internal hardware.

       

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      • #202068 Reply

        anonymous

        Why “Only use CCleaner on a computer which is clean or which has been first and thoroughly disinfected of all malware and all malware remnants.”?

        How can you be 100% sure there is no malware on the computer?

        EDIT: Removal of HTML

        • #202083 Reply

          satrow
          AskWoody MVP

          You cannot be 100% sure, obviously. Turn it around: if you suspect you might have malware, do not use CCleaner.

          CCleaner can clean out logs, memory dumps, droppers stored in temp. folders etc. which could prove useful in diagnosing the infection (or w/e is causing the troubling symptoms). Some malware has also been known to ‘hide’ user files in the recycle bin, run CCleaner and they’re gone.

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          • #202240 Reply

            anonymous

            Makes sense. I never thought about it that way. Thank you.

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            • #208051 Reply

              EP
              AskWoody MVP

              I use an older version of CCleaner like v5.32. that one was before Avast took over and started to degrade things in newer versions.

    • #107369 Reply

      anonymous

      Ccleaner + Winapp2 + Disk Cleanup = Awesome System Image Backup Speed

      Like a old (Portalbe version) version of TreeSize as well. New here.

      Gotta have Speccy too. Found it useful years ago to save the report as txt for helping remotes way down the line..

      satrow edit: cleaned up link #2.

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    • #141568 Reply

      anonymous

      Since this thread about Ccleaner is in the Tools subforum,

      and was last added to several months ago, when Ccleaner and its developer Piriform were still considered pretty reliable and safe (with certain caveats about not using the serious parts of the Ccleaner “registry cleaner” without knowing exactly what you were doing) and could be widely recommended to computer users at all levels of technical ability,

      I thought I’d post links to 2 of Woody’s blog posts about serious problems that Ccleaner has had in recent months:

      https://askwoody.com/2017/ccleaner-back-door-botnet-infection-updates/

      https://askwoody.com/2017/is-your-ccleaner-safe-new-evidence-suggests-maybe-not/

       

      —-

      P.T.

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    • #143696 Reply

      anonymous

      FYI – from an article I saw on Martin Brinkmann’s site:

      In a break with its past behavior, the free version of CCleaner is apparently connecting daily to Piriform and receiving automatic software updates now.

      For users of the program who want to decide their own updating schedule for it, especially after its recent malware troubles, this info is good to know.
      Apparently you can disable the updating task in the Task Scheduler, and using the portable version might be a safer route if you want to avoid auto-updating — see the article for more details.

      from: https://www.ghacks.net/2017/10/25/ccleaner-5-36-emergency-updater/

      “The new version ships with two major changes, namely a new Emergency Updater feature, and new default cleaning rules for some programs. […]

      Emergency Updater is a new feature of CCleaner that comes with its own executable file — CCUpdate.exe — and a new scheduled task called CCleaner Updater. […]
      Piriform [will] push out updates to the program to user machines even if only the free version of CCleaner is installed on these machines. […]
      The task is set to run on system start, and once a day as well. […]

      The second major change of CCleaner 5.36 changes some of the program’s default cleaning rules. […]
      won’t delete browsing session data anymore by default. […]
      does not clean Windows Defender’s scan history, the MRUs of Microsoft Office, and most recently used documents and other MRU files of Windows Explorer anymore.”


      P.T.

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    • #195005 Reply

      Bill C.
      AskWoody Lounger

      It’s also available from portableapps.com at the following link: https://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/ccportable . Same version as listed above, 5.43.6520, Rev. 2, making it 5.43.6522.

      From the website: “CCleaner® is a registered trademark of Piriform Ltd. PortableApps.com is not affiliated, sponsored, authorized or otherwise associated by/with Piriform Ltd or its associated companies.”

      That is not the root issue for me. Portableapps also wants to run an installer of some type. Uh, no… The reason for the portable is to NOT have to install it.

      The link to Majorgeeks also wants to download an .exe, (actually the portableapps software) whereas Piriform offered the portable version of CCleaner as a zipfile that worked without any thirdparty .exe software.

      Looks like it is back to the free version and just disable the updater task and/or delete the updater file. I find all of this automatic updating and phoning home without user authorization is getting a bit too much.

      UPDATE:  It now appears that Piriform has released the new truely portable CCleaner in .zip format.

      https://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/download/portable

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    • #201373 Reply

      rc primak
      AskWoody MVP

      This will be a long post. And it possibly should be moved to its own thread. But this may be of interest to users of CCleaner who update the program using downloads from  the official CCleaner download site.

      Note that this year Avast took full control of CCleaner. The result was a malware download embedded in one of the CCleaner updates. Ever since that time there have been reports of mysterious appearances of installed Avast Antivirus after some users downloaded CCleaner updates from the official download page.

      Well, on July 3, 2018, it happened to me.

      July 3, 2018, evening Eastern Time Zone, USA — I had all my Windows updates done. Everything was ready for cleanup. Then I went to update CCleaner. It installed something from Avast Antivirus with no opt-out and no warnings. (This was later identified as Avast Antivirus Free, not polluted with any malware if my other scanners are correct.)

      I used Geek Uninstaller to do a Forced Removal of Avast Antivirus. Initially the Windows Defender Security Center said Avast was still there, and tried to get me to activate it. That would no longer work due to the Geek Uninstaller removal process. Now Windows was getting through the bootloader to the selection screen which shows Boot Options (Macrium Reflect or Windows 10). But it could get no further. Windows did an automated disk Check (no errors reported or repaired) and then offered to go into Advanced Startup Options. Windows still wouldn’t boot, and Advanced Startup Options couldn’t start.

      I looked to see if there’s online documentation about how to fix this disaster without reinstalling Windows from the beginning and ending up with Version 1803.

      Linux could not access the NTFS partitions in that PC (Intel NUC with a Ubuntu-Windows dual-boot setup). I knew from experience this could only mean one thing — Windows had failed to shut down completely and left the NTFS partitions locked.

      Try Windows in Safe Mode. I had to look up how to do this during the Windows boot process. The other way to do it would have been to take my OEM Full Retail Windows 10 install media (commercially purchased three years ago with the NUC) and use the little links to get into its Windows 10 Repair and Recovery Options. That should work on the NUC, but it would never work on any WIMBoot or compressed Windows Image device. (I was at this point glad I gave away my Windows 10 32-bits ASUS tablet this spring — let that be someone else’s problem.)

      Anyway, booting into Windows 10 Safe Mode (several hoops to jump through from the Recovery Options>>Troubleshoot screen) worked. If I had downloaded the Avast Removal Tool in the first place, this is where that Tool would have taken me, and I could have run it from there and been rid of the majority of Avast, then cleaned up the rest from Windows 10 Normal Mode. But I had to restart and get into Windows 10 Normal Mode, then download the Tool, then get back into Windows 10 Safe Mode from there. Then run the Avast Removal Tool. And then repair Avira and Windows as needed.

      I think the CCleaner/Avast issue was a sort of drive-by download and forced install courtesy of the CCleaner official download site. It wasn’t blocked by Avira, Windows Defender or any of my ad-blocking Chrome Beta extensions, nor by the Chrome Beta (version 68) Browser itself.

      This says to me that Avast has devised some sneaky way to foist their free antivirus product onto the PCs of Windows users who only want to download CCleaner. For this reason, I am officially withdrawing my endorsement of CCleaner until Avast ceases and desists. Which of course will never happen. For just myself, I’ll just keep the Avast removal tool close to the vest, and maybe download a fresh copy every time CCleaner wants to be updated. It’s that serious.

      I am a fairly savvy and experienced PC user, and yet this drive-by caught me napping. Think what an unsophisticated user would be doing, and how much it might cost them to get their issue fixed. Or maybe they would decide to just live with Avast and suffer from that program’s known issues with Windows performance and conflicts with other antivirus which may still be present on their PCs.

      If this was indeed a drive-by install, it is the lowest of the low in terms of business practices. (Short of downloading and installing outright malware, that is. Some companies do that, as do many third-party download sites.) If this is really what happened to me, this behavior alone should drive customers away from anything owned by Avast.

      I wonder, does anyone else know for sure whether this is in fact a drive-by? Is Avast itself (the company) responsible for these drive-by installs of their antivirus product?

      BTW, I see in the CCleaner installer itself no mention of Avast Antivirus, and no opt-in or opt-out. I think I used to see something about that somewhere along the way and I had to uncheck a checkbox. All that’s gone now. From the CCleaner installer anyway.

       

      -- rc primak

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      • #201377 Reply

        geekdom
        AskWoody Lounger

        There may be some other unpleasant surprises associated with this software: ccleaner.
        Consider downloading and running adwcleaner:
        https://toolslib.net/

        Group G{ot backup} Win7 · x64 · SP1 · i3-3220 · TestBeta
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      • #201381 Reply

        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        @rc primak Ouch! thanks for the heads-up.

        I have been using CCleaner for years (slim version and later onto the portable version) Having done network tests when CCleaner was open and online last year, I discovered that they had a phone home (new or not) which sent data after a clean and was immediately added and blocked to my firewall rulesets, which are still in place. Haven’t updated CCleaner since just after the malware fiasco and it works as intended for each of our setups.

        I did read on Ghacks that they introduced new ‘feature’ tickboxes for privacy a few weeks back when instinct kicked in and decided not to go there (found the article again):

        https://www.ghacks.net/2018/05/24/ccleaner-update-introduces-privacy-options/

        Looks like it won’t be getting updated either..lock-down on another utility.

        Edit: almost forgot, the only updates I have done is for the Winapp2 script for newly installed software since last CCleaner installation which I backup.

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      • #201397 Reply

        satrow
        AskWoody MVP

        I accidentally edited this reply instead of replying to it. If Admins can recover the original I would be grateful.

        — rc primak —

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        • #202617 Reply

          rc primak
          AskWoody MVP

          @rc primak – I suspect using a 3rd party uninstaller caused more damage than using Avast’s specific uninstall tool, perhaps exacerbated by W10’s fast reboot ‘feature’. Bad luck getting that install in the first place though.

          This is exactly what I suspect happened. Complete with the shutdown not being completed, but going into a state similar to the “fast startup” hybrid-hibernate condition. This is what tripped up my Linux  before (Ubuntu 16.04, since upgraded to 18.04, which is different in many ways).

          I see only one report on the CCleaner support forum recently (there may be more on other fora/reddit, etc.), the OP there suspects it happened due to his AV being temporarily disabled and Avast filled the ‘void’. https://forum.piriform.com/topic/52155-unwanted-avast-installation/

          No, my Avira was on fully-enabled status. I have since cranked up the active shields heuristics to very strict (highest level). no “void” to fill. I also now have Windows Defender enabled to do as much as it can with Avira taking the lead.

          I would be satisfied with the explanation that something in the installer slipped past my notice. I do go through third-party updates in Windows 10 fairly rapidly.

          Fortunately I was able to (eventually) boot into Windows Safe Mode. That was the key to my recovery without rolling back using Macrium Reflect Rescue Media.  I’m not sure even that would have unlocked all the NTFS partitions.

          -- rc primak

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    • #201386 Reply

      CADesertRat
      AskWoody Lounger

      Hmmm, Interesting as I have been using CCleaner for years and am up to 5.44 with latest install. I looked in Programs & Features and there is no Avast listed and CCleaner is listed as being from Piriform.

      The only thing new that I noticed is a pop-up when I start CCleaner that is trying to sell the full version but it disappears in about 5 seconds and says that the sale is only until July 7.

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      • #201408 Reply

        Bill C.
        AskWoody Lounger

        I have not experienced that with my 5.44 portable version.  However a friend used the 5.44 portable version and DID get the pop-up.  I will have to see if his minor version number is different and/or if any of his files differ in size.  I do know that 5.43 portable has 2 privacy boxes which I unchecked.  Version 5.44 only has one, and it was checked by default, now unchecked.

        In the past when I was using the installed version, it used the previously selected options and settings.  I guess Portable gets around this by the new .ini file.

        I use the CCleaner mainly for the duplicate File utility.  It is very customizable.

        May have to rethink the use of this previosly useful utility.

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      • #202243 Reply

        CADesertRat
        AskWoody Lounger

        The pop-up was gone today but I’m sure it will show up on the next sale.

    • #201933 Reply

      EP
      AskWoody MVP

      grrr, I should have mentioned about this GHacks.net page about CCleaner 5.44 containing ads (but didn’t quite had the time – oh well better late than never):
      https://www.ghacks.net/2018/06/28/ccleaner-5-54-comes-with-advertising-popups/

      I’ll go look for an older version of CCleaner like v5.32, which was owned by piriform before the next version was made by Avast (and that one was purely ad-free).

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    • #201973 Reply

      Frank n St31n
      AskWoody Lounger

      My thoughts on CCleaner / Installation and its Functions.

      Always make sure it comes from a legitimate and reputable resource and preferably from a HTTPS secure page such as …..

      https://www.ccleaner.com/

      On installing the setup box will display 6 install options which are your choice. I find the Enable Intelligent Cookie scan the more important.

      The next dialog box will prompt you to install the Google Toolbar along with CCleaner, and possibly Google Chrome as well. ( Un-check both if you do not want these and then click the install button ).

      Wait for the installation to finish.

      Click Finish when you see the Completing the CCleaner Setup dialog box. A browser window will open asking you to buy CCleaner Professional edition. You can safely ignore this.

      CCleaner main console window is divided into Windows and Application tabs. On the right is where information or results from operations are displayed. Beneath that are the Analyze and Run Cleaner buttons. ( I would suggest to leave these at their Default Settings ).

      Most free progs have adds and add ons to keep them financially viable through advertising and other.

      My personal thoughts on CCleaner :

      THE GOOD :

      Small footprint / low on resource use / easy to run / versatile /  ease of access to Windows and Application Tabs for cleaning and checking of files that it finds all within one console without having to go to : Start – All Programs – Accessories – Systems Tools in Win 7.

      The CLEANER TAB : gives you option for checking or un-checking check-boxes for cleaning within Windows and or Applications. ( I would suggest to leave these at their default settings ). 

      The REGISTRY TAB : for scanning for registry issues. Once scanned you can Right Click on the problem and select Open In Reg-edit to see its location. Useful for finding those remnants left behind from bad uninstalls. <b>( Use with caution as one wrong removal of a wrong entry in this field can render the computer unstable or un-bootable requiring a complete re-install of the Operating System or render certain installed programs unstable or unusable )</b>.

      The TOOL TAB : has many useful functions such as for uninstalling programs / Startups to see what loads on computer startup and options to stop these from loading up on startup / Browser Plugins to see what plugins are being loaded / Disk Analyser to see which type of files are using disk space / Duplicate Finder to search for duplicate files / Systems Restore to make restore points or remove them / Drive Wiper ( Read and use with caution ).

      The OPTIONS TAB : for for selecting or de-selecting options of  these tabs : Settings / Cookies / Include / Exclude / Scheduling / Monitoring which monitors your applications to perform automatic cleaning which is checked by default, ( i would suggest un-check these if you have a slow computer or prefer to clean manually or dont wish to have a CCleaner Icon appearing on your task bar ) / Users / Advanced  / Privacy.

      THE BAD : 

      The REGISTRY TAB : There is no harm in scanning the registry to see what errors are found  but remember the removal of the wrong entry by using the fix button can render the computer unstable or un-bootable as i have mentioned before.

      ( If using this tab i would suggest one should have a firm grasp of the registry and its function firstly ).

      ADD ONS when starting installation of CCleaner. Read and look carefully and un-check anything that you dont want installed automatically as i have mentioned at the beginning.

      Overall as with any cleaner for systems files and registry’s err on the side of CAUTION.

      Edit to remove HTML. Please use the “Text” tab in the entry box when you copy/paste.

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    • #203439 Reply

      Sueska
      AskWoody Lounger

      Thank you rc primak. Also appreciate the heads up on CCleaner. I installed version 5.44 and yes indeed it would have installed Avast if I did not uncheck the box. Since your issue and another colleague of ours got Avast without  warning during a CCleaner update, I chose to deselect auto updates, notifications, and any telemetry. This of course does not prevent ads. In fact I installed CCleaner on July 9th and was presented with a 50% off summer ad which was already expired on July 7th. Typically, except for antivirus, I do not let any software autoupdate. Burned too many times.

    • #205776 Reply

      Bill C.
      AskWoody Lounger

      I have been using Version 5.44 portable that is also in a zipfile format. This version has a single check box to prevent sharing data with 3rd parties. Prior versions had 2 boxes.

      They just released version 5.45, this switch is now totally gone in hte portable version. Reading the Privacy section on the website, even the new portable version phones home at 12 hour intervals.

      ALso saved coockies by default now invlude avast. I do not use it as a cleaner so the coockies part is not used, but I inspect ALL settings now and my programs.

      Just an FYI.

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    • #206579 Reply

      CADesertRat
      AskWoody Lounger

      I updated to v 5.45 and if you go to Options>Monitoring, there is a check in enable active monitoring. Unchecking it gives you a “Not recommended to disable” warning but I choose to disable it. Every time I start CCleaner again the box is checked again.

      How/where can I get an older version like 5.43 of CCleaner? CCleaner used to have the older versions available for D/L but that is no longer the case. Whenever you click on an archived version it wants to D/L 5.45.CCleaner-5_45-moniter

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      • #206589 Reply

        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        @cadesertrat

        Beware!: If you go looking for an older version of CCleaner, be sure to check the links and download on VirusTotal before downloading, as there are a good few which flag up as suspicious. My advice is to use the portable version if you can find one.

        You may wish to read this prior to looking though:

        https://techdows.com/2018/05/avast-auto-updates-old-ccleaner-versions.html

        To counter this, you need to establish the IP of piriform connections using Nirsoft’s

        network_traffic_view which is a brilliant utility to monitor background internet connections,

        then create a firewall ruleset to block the connection completely 😉

         

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        • #206596 Reply

          CADesertRat
          AskWoody Lounger

          Thanks for the article.

          Interestingly, while reading the article I followed the link for CCleaner Portable but it takes you to the main D/L page for CCleaner which is 5.45 and NOT portable. Looks like Avast has “fixed” every avenue. What a shame that Piriform was taken over by such a ruthless company which ( IMHO ) has ruined a good/helpful application. Not sure what to look for as a replacement now.

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          • #206619 Reply

            Elly
            AskWoody MVP

            I was a CCleaner user… have moved to Wise Cleaner. It is possible, if you don’t pay attention to what you have approved for cleaning, to clean too much… but once I figured it out, it is easy and thorough. It is listed on Majorgeek’s Top Freeware Picks.

            Win 7 Home, 64 bit, Group B

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            • #206627 Reply

              Microfix
              AskWoody MVP

              @elly, Wise Cleaner also uses a background phone home, as do most of their utilities. It’s not during a scan but during the clean process when on-line. Unable to establish what data was being reported back during a clean, I blocked their IP also. What a trusting digital world we live in eh..<sigh>

              Just because your paranoid, doesn’t mean they’re not out to get your data..

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            • #206630 Reply

              Elly
              AskWoody MVP

              Thank you for the heads up, @microfix.

              Win 7 Home, 64 bit, Group B

      • #206640 Reply

        GoneToPlaid
        AskWoody Lounger

        I have nearly all of the older versions of CCleaner going back to version 5.11. I even have the infected version 5.33 version which was downloaded on June 21, 2017. Contrary to what Avast has reported, both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions were infected, and the secondary payloads did activate on all of my Win7 computers. I had to restore all of my Win7 computers using offline backups, dated before June 2017, in order to remove the infection since the secondary payload was undetectable by anything — except GMER which would occasionally show several unknown threads. The secondary payload probably was created by a state actor.

        If you want 5.43 or 5.44, I can upload either to my Dropbox.

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        • #206649 Reply

          CADesertRat
          AskWoody Lounger

          Thanks for the offer GoneToPlaid but I will see how my plan works out for just running the portable version of 5.45 and hopefully there will no longer be the “Monitoring” problem. If it doesn’t work out I will get back here and see about getting an older version from you.

          According to the link Microfix posted, there is a need to keep CCleaner updated since there are many changes to Chrome etc. that has to be dealt with and that makes sense since Chrome is constantly evolving.

          • #206673 Reply

            GoneToPlaid
            AskWoody Lounger

            Note that the monitoring is set as a Run in your computer’s registry. Perhaps, try setting CCleaner to save all settings as an INI file. Also note that, after reading your initial post, that I installed 5.45 and do not have this issue of monitoring remaining checked. This might be due to me, a good while back, having chosen to save all settings to an INI file.

            • #207649 Reply

              Bill C.
              AskWoody Lounger

              My original post was about the Portable 5.45 min.zip format, not the .exe installed version.

              My review of the .ini file for the 5.45 Portable also revealed some interesting issues in that there were entries that I did not have checked or even related to the versions I had used. (I missed the infected versions fortunately).

              As I archive all my software version, I went back to version 5.44 after totally deleting the CCleaner folder and files, and checking in the registry for any entries from the earlier installer versions. I also removed those. I also checked other folders with that might have program data.

              After the ‘cleaning’ I then re-installed the 5.44 Portable. I launched it once and unchecked all the cleanings settings (I do not use it for cleaning and the default settings are too aggressive), and reset others to a much more conservative settings. I then checked the box to NOT share data. I shut down and compared the new 5.44 Postable .ini file to the ‘old’ 5.45 file. It was much smaller and had the line “PrefsPrivacyShareData3rdParty=0“, which the 5.45 file did NOT even have.

              I also used the program itself to not retain the Avast and Piriform cookies, and then manually deleted those cookies in Firefox and IE.

              I have used the program for a number of uses and the .ini file has remained constant. I also had backed the new file up to a separate folder in case it changes.

              This is the sorry state of software today, free or otherwise – spying and collecting who knows what data (the CCleaner website is however much more forthcoming on what they do collect and when) and injecting auto-updater routines and software.

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            • #208222 Reply

              GoneToPlaid
              AskWoody Lounger

              Yep. I do believe that the reason why I didn’t encounter this issue is because long ago I had told CCleaner to save its settings to an INI file instead of in the registry.

    • #206600 Reply

      JohnW
      AskWoody Lounger

      Yup, I carefully install CCleaner and ensure that is ALL I get.  Then I block it at my firewall.  Same as I do for all the annoying phone home apps.

      I used to rely on Avast, and recommend, but I have concerns about their current marketing strategies.  So I keep Avast as far away as possible now.

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      • #206615 Reply

        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        About the time Avast and AVG merged, that’s when I dropped them, with around 4 months left on the annual license. Since then, our PC’s happily chugged along until Avast acquired Piriform..utility lock-down. Good  riddance to them IMHO

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        • #206636 Reply

          CADesertRat
          AskWoody Lounger

          Long ago I tried Avast and AVG ( on XP ) and did not like the obtrusive actions that either of them use so I went to MSE and MalwareBytes free. CCleaner was one of the best until they sold out.

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    • #206605 Reply

      CADesertRat
      AskWoody Lounger

      By googling, I did find the portable D/L page although it is for 5.45 but at least it’s the portable version so I should be able to unzip to a folder and use it from there. That way I can uninstall the standard program and run the portable when I want to clean temp files.

      • #206613 Reply

        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        Sounds like a plan. Once you’ve set up your portable CC (off-line), go through all the settings and make sure nothing phones home etc.. start the network traffic view connect on-line and start CC whilst monitoring the traffic viewer, the IP should show connecting to piriform (take note and block it/ them using your firewall)

        Around 12-14  months ago (avast related?) there used to be one IP but I found more as the newer versions came along which prompted me to lock-down the utility and never update it again. I’m still on v5.41.6446 portable on both W8.1 and W7 (XP has an older version)

        I don’t use the registry cleaner but, I do check it now and again after an uninstall and then manually remove keys via regedit usually within HKLM and HKCU 😉

        | W8.1 Pro x64 | Linux x64 Hybrids | W7 Pro x64 O/L | XP Pro O/L
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        • #206651 Reply

          CADesertRat
          AskWoody Lounger

          Thanks Microfix, I looked up the Nirsoft Network Traffic View and it may be a bit over my head since there are other things to install for it to work properly. When I opened up CCleaner Portable I looked in Options and all of the monitoring boxes are greyed out. I haven’t run it yet but the monitoring boxes are a good sign so far.

    • #206664 Reply

      JohnW
      AskWoody Lounger

      According to the link Microfix posted, there is a need to keep CCleaner updated since there are many changes to Chrome etc. that has to be dealt with and that makes sense since Chrome is constantly evolving.

      You raise a good point here, that I think also applies in a much more broad context with regard to today’s software ecosystem.

      All software is evolving, including the OS, browsers, applications, security apps.  If you sit still with one version of anything too long, soon you will realize that compatibility issues are abundant, and you will have to deal with that one way or another …

    • #206794 Reply

      anonymous

      Here is an idea for older versions of CCleaner, I am using v5.40 on Windows 7 Pro with no problems, but v5.40 may not be good for Win 10 1803 or Google Chrome 68, so some experimentation may be necessary. In the past I have not had problems with FileHippo,com – but nowadays I am paranoid about everything, so before downloading anything, use VirusTotal to scan the links and downloads. Once in your Download Folder, scan it again with everything you have got. (and cross fingers sometimes helps?)  Check out this link, and be careful. Lars220.

    • #206801 Reply

      GoneToPlaid
      AskWoody Lounger

      I just reinstalled v5.44 since I don’t want Avast to share anything with third parties. My OS is Win7 and I don’t use Chrome. Last night I read Avast’s data collection and security policies. Avast admits that they collect personally identifiable information and that they share it with third parties. I need to have a good look at BleachBit as an alternative to CCleaner.

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      • #207815 Reply

        anonymous

        A few years back I looked at AVG anti-virus (which had been recommended to me by a work colleague, as a replacement for Norton; and the AVG free version was accepted by our employer for “remote workers” but the paid version wasn’t).  I read the T&C rather carefully;  I was appalled to find that they claimed the right to “make any use they wanted of any information they found in my computer”.(Recalled / paraphrased, probably with errors.)  I said “nope” to that, and found something else.

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    • #206806 Reply

      anonymous

      On v.5.40 – the last ver prior to them introduce ads so was alright but recently it starts and keeps trying to phone home – it’s driving my firewall crazy (and wasting lots of RAM and heats up the computer lots more).

      May very likely to rollack to earlier SAFE ver.
      So? Which ver is the LAST GOOD COPY prior to the avast-deal? v.5.32? v5.36?
      Please advice. Thanks 🙂

      back to fishing for better dreams

      • #206809 Reply

        Carl D
        AskWoody Lounger

        I’m still using CCleaner version 5.40 – there are a couple of entries in Task Scheduler related to CCleaner which I always disable straight after installing it.

        One has been around for quite a while (can’t think of the name of it offhand) but a second one relating to checking for updates was added at about version 5.40

      • #206857 Reply

        GoneToPlaid
        AskWoody Lounger

        The last version prior to the Avast deal was 5.32.

      • #207635 Reply

        anonymous

        concerning v5.40 phoneing home, i had good outcome by deleting the ccleaner_updater.exe application in programfiles/ccleaner folder, and also in options, uncheck / turn off all monitoring, and in options, top settings, be sure to uncheck box about inform me of updates to ccleaner. as above disable the ccleaner related tasks.

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        • #207652 Reply

          Bill C.
          AskWoody Lounger

          The updater file is not in the true ‘portable’ zipfile version.

          I also edited the .ini file to NOT suppress the UAC, so I would see if it tried to launch.

        • #207806 Reply

          anonymous

          Thank you all 🙂
          I’ve done all that
          PLUS –
          1) tweak from regedit
          2) go to task shedule to disable update
          3) go to autorun and check again and disable any if still there
          4) block from win firewall
          5) block from another 3rd party firewall
          STILL… it appears its try to phone home WHEN a new version is out
          and its relentless!!!
          Could be embeded in the codes???? and nothing the user was given the manual control over?!

          It seems this is like the M$-Amazonian way of business these days
          The user are merely given the button/option to disable something
          and in ACTUALITY it does the secret business in the background
          There is NO rule of law whatsoever – and THATS the NEW LAW!!!
          sigh 🙁
          Such empire-milking-model is sure the feature of current humanity-dilemma
          Now even the good-ppl at chromium has join the dark side 🙁
          and then they force the new hardware NOT to accept any old software…
          to finish off the oldies and the diehard…
          while feeding the newbies with “cloud” stuff
          and the freakshow goes on…

          back to fishing for better dreams

    • #207791 Reply

      Microfix
      AskWoody MVP

      Note to all who use CCleaner:

      Do not install or upgrade to CCleaner 5.45 as advised by Martin Brinkmann at Ghacks.
      More info here: ccleaner-5-45-dont-install

      | W8.1 Pro x64 | Linux x64 Hybrids | W7 Pro x64 O/L | XP Pro O/L
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      • #207792 Reply

        Carl D
        AskWoody Lounger

        Thanks, Microfix.

        I am intending to stay with CCleaner 5.40 as long as possible – still works OK with Windows 7 and Windows 10 (1803).

        Little off topic but it looks like everyone has been jumping onto the “telemetry bandwagon” lately. Samsung Magician and NVIDIA are two that come immediately to mind.

        In the case of Samsung Magician (for Samsung SSD’s) I have stayed with version 4.9.7 which allows you to not accept the Privacy agreement – “I do not agree” so no telemetry is collected. Later versions won’t install unless you select the “I agree” option. The downside to this is you can’t update the firmware for the SSD unless you reinstall the program and agree to the telemetry collection.

        With NVIDIA drivers, they introduced telemetry a few releases back but you could disable it from the NVIDIA Control Panel (Help > untick “Allow Customer Experience Program”), now that option has been removed from the last couple of driver releases. You now need to go into Windows Services and stop and disable “NVIDIA Telemetry Container” which I assume stops the telemetry.

        Working one’s way through software and drivers is like a minefield these days.

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    • #207807 Reply

      JohnW
      AskWoody Lounger

      Note to all who use CCleaner: Do not install or upgrade to CCleaner 5.45 as advised by Martin Brinkmann at Ghacks. More info here: ccleaner-5-45-dont-install

      Simple solution:  Install – run – uninstall  😀

    • #207808 Reply

      JohnW
      AskWoody Lounger

      Thanks, Microfix. I am intending to stay with CCleaner 5.40 as long as possible – still works OK with Windows 7 and Windows 10 (1803). Little off topic but it looks like everyone has been jumping onto the “telemetry bandwagon” lately. Samsung Magician and NVIDIA are two that come immediately to mind. In the case of Samsung Magician (for Samsung SSD’s) I have stayed with version 4.9.7 which allows you to not accept the Privacy agreement – “I do not agree” so no telemetry is collected. Later versions won’t install unless you select the “I agree” option. The downside to this is you can’t update the firmware for the SSD unless you reinstall the program and agree to the telemetry collection. With NVIDIA drivers, they introduced telemetry a few releases back but you could disable it from the NVIDIA Control Panel (Help > untick “Allow Customer Experience Program”), now that option has been removed from the last couple of driver releases. You now need to go into Windows Services and stop and disable “NVIDIA Telemetry Container” which I assume stops the telemetry. Working one’s way through software and drivers is like a minefield these days.

      I agree that telemetry has gotten out of hand.  It is a bit concerning that the practice has been deemed almost acceptable by the industry.

      I guess there is a price to pay for ‘free’ services.  Although some paid software attempts this as well.  That really ticks me off if something I paid for will not let me opt out.

      In the end though, to control telemetry and phoning home, I rely on a firewall that lets me block outbound network access on a per application basis.  I use the Samsung Magician with my EVO SSD drive, and the firewall stops that one cold!  I notice that if I remove that policy from the firewall, Magician requests network access immediately upon launch.  Denied!  🙂

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    • #207811 Reply

      zero2dash
      AskWoody Lounger

      I switched from CCleaner to Bleachbit years ago when Piriform forced Ninite to remove all their apps. It does the same cleaning and has no extra nonsense. https://www.bleachbit.org/

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    • #207828 Reply

      Bill C.
      AskWoody Lounger

      I agree that telemetry has gotten out of hand. It is a bit concerning that the practice has been deemed almost acceptable by the industry.

      I guess there is a price to pay for ‘free’ services. Although some paid software attempts this as well. That really ticks me off if something I paid for will not let me opt out.

      In the end though, to control telemetry and phoning home, I rely on a firewall that lets me block outbound network access on a per application basis. I use the Samsung Magician with my EVO SSD drive, and the firewall stops that one cold! I notice that if I remove that policy from the firewall, Magician requests network access immediately upon launch. Denied! 🙂

      What these companies deliberately choose to forget is that there are many, many people without affordable and reliable broadband access (in the US, most rural areas). MS recognizes it with it metered connection setting, but still has constant telemetry and massive update and version downloads that could take many hours thereby bringing the machine to a standstill.

      What forewall do you use?

    • #207837 Reply

      JohnW
      AskWoody Lounger

      I agree that telemetry has gotten out of hand. It is a bit concerning that the practice has been deemed almost acceptable by the industry. I guess there is a price to pay for ‘free’ services. Although some paid software attempts this as well. That really ticks me off if something I paid for will not let me opt out. In the end though, to control telemetry and phoning home, I rely on a firewall that lets me block outbound network access on a per application basis. I use the Samsung Magician with my EVO SSD drive, and the firewall stops that one cold! I notice that if I remove that policy from the firewall, Magician requests network access immediately upon launch. Denied! 🙂

      What these companies deliberately choose to forget is that there are many, many people without affordable and reliable broadband access (in the US, most rural areas). MS recognizes it with it metered connection setting, but still has constant telemetry and massive update and version downloads that could take many hours thereby bringing the machine to a standstill. What forewall do you use?

      I currently use GlassWire Pro. https://www.glasswire.com/

      Prior to that I used Sphinx Windows Firewall Control (free).  I believe Noel Carboni has done some testing with the paid versions of Sphinx.

      The limitation with the free version of Sphinx, is that while you can block user applications with rules, all system programs are allowed by default.  So no stopping any Win 10 related junk.  But with GlassWire, for one example, I can stop Windows Store, (I have more than a few like that in my list!).

      All Windows firewalls today (since Vista) are basically front-ends for the Windows Filtering Platform (WFP).  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Filtering_Platform

      In Microsoft computer-systems, the Windows Filtering Platform (WFP) comprises a set of system services and an application programming interface first introduced with Windows Vista in 2006/2007. It allows applications to tie into the packet processing and filtering pipeline of the Next Generation TCP/IP network stack.

      So if you really want to, you can just open up Windows Firewall and set manual rules to block outbound traffic, but it’s not very user friendly.

      Both 3rd party firewall solutions I have mentioned are blocking ‘per application’, and not by IP address.

      Overall in my opinion, GlassWire is the most user friendly firewall I have ever used.  It is good for non-techy users, as everything is point and click (click to allow; click to block).  Nice traffic monitor and logging features show where all of your bandwidth is being used, and what type of traffic it is, as well as all server connections made.

      You can try the full version of Glasswire free for 7 days, after which it reverts to the free version.  The free version has no firewall features, but the network monitoring will continue to function.

      Can I use GlassWire for free, and what are GlassWire’s free features?

      GlassWire 2.0 comes with a free 7 day trial so you can try out all its paid Basic, Pro, Elite features. After the 7 days or not GlassWire will revert to its free version. The free version of GlassWire includes its extreme network monitoring functionality where you can see your live and past network activity in detail. You can also set Data Alerts to stay under your data limits, and scan your network related apps with VirusTotal. GlassWire’s free version also allows you to monitor one PC remotely. The free version of GlassWire has no firewall functionality, and none of our security features are activated with the free version of GlassWire.

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      • #208189 Reply

        Noel Carboni
        AskWoody MVP

        I believe Noel Carboni has done some testing with the paid versions of Sphinx.

        More than that, I use the Network/Cloud edition actively on all my hardware and virtual systems. It’s the only firewall I’ve found manageable at the level of control I require while minimizing maintenance because it performs name to address translation on the fly, meaning you can tell it to allow or disallow connections to a named server, and you’re covered for things like server banks or content delivery networks. Dynamic name-based operation alone cuts the ongoing trouble of managing a deny-by-default firewall configuraiton to a tiny fraction of what it is for other firewall interfaces where you’re expected to manage lists of IP addresses because while addresses change, names don’t.

        The paid versions are well worth the price.

        One thing I’d like to see expanded is an ability to define which service gets what access. That makes more sense now that Windows 10 has expanded things to roughly one service per svchost.exe instance. However, it may not actually be possible to ask the Base Filtering Engine to differentiate between services.

        -Noel

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      • #208194 Reply

        Bill C.
        AskWoody Lounger

        Both 3rd party firewall solutions I have mentioned are blocking ‘per application’, and not by IP address.

        THAT is the time saver and what makes it user friendly. At least for me…

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        • #208200 Reply

          JohnW
          AskWoody Lounger

          That is important because of the use of distributed content delivery networks and cloud services.  Plugging IP addresses in the modern cloud scheme is a just a giant game of “whack-a-mole”.

    • #207846 Reply

      anonymous

      This post may be of interest: Ccleaner latest update forces monitoring.
      It basically agrees With Martin Brinkmans assessment of a fix is coming for the monitoring problem.

    • #208052 Reply

      EP
      AskWoody MVP

      Check out the comments made by NSaners about CCleaner v5.45 at the Nsane forums.

      • #208061 Reply

        JohnW
        AskWoody Lounger

        I think the point with using a free product is that you will pay with your data, unless you know how to lock it down.

        Use a paid version, and maintain your privacy.

    • #208186 Reply

      anonymous

      Old versions of CCleaner still available at FileHippo

      https://filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/81100/ – for version 5.39.

      Check others also.

    • #208187 Reply

      anonymous

      Here are some CCleaner alternatives from the How to Geek website, 02 August 2018,

      Heres What You Should Use Instead of CCleaner

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      • #208228 Reply

        GoneToPlaid
        AskWoody Lounger

        Hi everyone,

        Hmm…not sure about downloading previous versions of CCleaner from websites, as you never know what might be additionally bundled. If anyone downloads ccsetup544.exe, here are the MD5 and CRC32 checksums for this file:

        Filename: ccsetup544.exe
        File size: 15.2 MB (15,989,160 bytes)
        MD5 checksum: 5cfe04b8bc7c1ce45d18e376ad9116a7
        32-bit CRC checksum: a27e78a2

        The simplest solution for those who have installed CCleaner 5.45 should be to tell CCleaner to save all settings to an INI file instead of in the registry. After doing so, you will have to close CCleaner and perhaps kill it in Task Manager. You will have to view processes for all users and kill CCleaner if it is running. Now you can go to where CCleaner is installed (Program Files\CCleaner), open the saved INI file, and add these two lines to the INI file if they are not present:

        Monitoring=0
        PrefsPrivacyShareData3rdParty=0

        Best regards,

        –GTP

         

        • #208587 Reply

          anonymous

          ? says:

          thank you GTP! i plugged my usb toolbox into linux and compared .ini files from ccleaner v. 4.02.4115 (last version to clean MSE files) and v.5.44.6575:

          Version 4.02.4115:

          [Options]
          UpdateKey=06/02/2013 12:24:10 PM
          (App)Autocomplete Form History=True
          (App)Saved Passwords=True
          (App)Network Passwords=True
          (App)Windows Error Reporting=True
          (App)Desktop Shortcuts=True
          (App)Start Menu Shortcuts=True
          (App)Font Cache=True
          (App)DNS Cache=True
          (App)Game Explorer=True
          (App)Old Prefetch data=True
          (App)Environment Path=True
          (App)User Assist History=False
          (App)IIS Log Files=True
          SecureDeleteType=1
          WipeAlternateDataStreams=1
          WipeClusterTips=1
          FinderInclude1=PATH|A:\|*.*|RECURSE
          FinderInclude2=PATH|C:\|*.*|RECURSE
          FinderInclude3=PATH|E:\|*.*|RECURSE
          FinderInclude4=PATH|F:\|*.*|RECURSE
          FinderIncludeStates=0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0
          WINDOW_MAX=1
          WINDOW_LEFT=0
          WINDOW_TOP=0
          WINDOW_WIDTH=812
          WINDOW_HEIGHT=612
          FinderInclude5=PATH|G:\|*.*|RECURSE
          (App)Hotfix Uninstallers=True
          FinderInclude6=PATH|H:\|*.*|RECURSE
          FinderInclude7=PATH|I:\|*.*|RECURSE
          FinderInclude8=PATH|K:\|*.*|RECURSE
          (App)Sun Java=True
          (App)MS Security Client=True
          (App)MS AntiMalware=True

          Version: 5.44.6575:

          [Options]
          WipeFreeSpaceDrives=C:\
          LatestICS=5.44.6575
          CookiesToSave=
          RunICS=0
          Monitoring=0
          GD=(redacted)
          (App)Autocomplete Form History=True
          (App)Saved Passwords=True
          (App)Recent Documents=True
          (App)Other Explorer MRUs=True
          (App)Network Passwords=True
          (App)Windows Error Reporting=True
          (App)DNS Cache=True
          (App)Start Menu Shortcuts=True
          (App)Desktop Shortcuts=True
          (App)Windows Event Logs=True
          (App)Old Prefetch data=True
          (App)Environment Path=True
          (App)IIS Log Files=True
          (App)Office 2010=True
          (App)Windows Defender=True
          (App)Game Explorer=True
          PrefsPrivacyShareData3rdParty=0
          SecureDeleteType=1
          WipeAlternateDataStreams=1
          WipeClusterTips=1
          ClientUUID= (redacted)
          cmp_t=00-tips
          cmp_tv=301
          WINDOW_LEFT=6
          WINDOW_TOP=5
          WINDOW_WIDTH=1268
          WINDOW_HEIGHT=728
          WINDOW_MAX=0
          CheckTrialOffer=0

          interesting…

           

      • #217356 Reply

        MisterKevin
        AskWoody Lounger

        Yes, that article presents some good advice. Here are a couple more (from HowToGeek.com) that include some helpful ideas. Read the section titled “Do You Really Need CCleaner?” on this one: What Does CCleaner Do, and Should You Use It?

        I think CCleaner being hacked was mentioned somewhere in this forum, this article explains that. CCleaner Was Hacked: What You Need To Know

        However, CCleaner did try to undo the problems they created in version 5.45 by rolling back to v5.44. CCleaner Rolls Back Sketchy Update, Promises Not to Undo User Preferences in Future Version

        I don’t use CCleaner, I don’t know of any reason to. See the section “Do You Really Need CCleaner?” on the page mentioned above.

    • #208562 Reply

      z.d.
      AskWoody Lounger

      I ran some comparisons of popular disk cleaners recently, and concluded that Glary Utilities > BleachBit > CCleaner > Privazer. Sample of 1, obviously, but now I generally just use the first two of these. BleachBit is especially effective when used in conjunction with Winapp2 (http://www.winapp2.com).

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    • #208715 Reply

      anonymous

      Update posted by Kirsty on August 3rd on the AskWoody home page CCleaner 5.45 Removed.

      Her posting includes a link to a discussion by Lawrence Abrams on which lists links to where you can get the prior version (v5.44) of CCleaner.

      EDIT html to text – only Simple BBCodes used here, not html

      • #208729 Reply

        Kirsty
        AskWoody MVP

        You may not have read this portion of the blogpost, which links the downloads from source 🙂

        Now, feedback has resulted in changes, as noted on piriform.com today:

        Today we have removed v5.45 and reverted to v5.44 as the main download for CCleaner while we work on a new version with several key improvements. You can grab version 5.44 from one of the links [below]:

        (You can find those download links here)

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    • #214585 Reply

      Bill C.
      AskWoody Lounger

      CCLeaner version 5.46 has been released. There are both installed versions and portable versions.

      Check the website for a list of changes. the installed version still has the updater.exe file.
      https://www.ccleaner.com/news/release-announcements/2018/8/30/ccleaner-v5466652

      Also here is the Data Factsheet.
      https://www.ccleaner.com/about/data-factsheet

      Thanks, but no thanks, I will stick at 5.44 Portable.

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    • #217045 Reply

      Bill C.
      AskWoody Lounger

      For folks still using CCleaner, you may wish to read the most recent Gunter Born column (Sept 12, 2018) on his website Born’s Tech and Windows World.

      https://borncity.com/win/2018/09/12/ccleaner-forces-update-from-v5-38-to-v5-46/#more-6967

      Definitely not good.  I echo the author’s comments that users are really going to have to evaluate their personal positions on this type of behavior and their true need for this product.

      From personal experience though, if you are reverting back to an earlier version, you really need to make sure you have uninstalled the ccleaner.ini file, by doing an uninstall of the newer version. Do not install the older version over the newer. When I compared the before and after .ini files, I found the default privacy settings of the newer version will not be changed by the install of the older version.

      For now the portable version is clean from the ccupdater file.

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    • #217050 Reply

      LeaningTowardsLinux
      AskWoody Lounger

      You’re right. My 5.38 was indeed secretively ‘updated’ to 5.46

      Will uninstall and look for a 4x version according to your recommendations, Bill.
      Thanks for that!

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      • #217329 Reply

        LeaningTowardsLinux
        AskWoody Lounger

        @Bill C. Uninstalled 5.46 and installed good old http://www.oldversion.com/windows/ccleaner-5-14-5493

        No forced updates
        No telemetry
        No ini-files
        Just simple straight forward cleaning.

        Love it

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        • #217348 Reply

          anonymous

          Nice 🙂
          You seem to roll back quite abit back to 2016 ver
          Just curious – Why 5-14-5493 ? Why not later ver. (prior Avast)?
          Is it because that the latest version with (No forced updates + No telemetry + No ini-files)?
          Thanks 🙂

          Later ver (prior Avast) seems to clean abit more but comes with strings attached

          • #217383 Reply

            LeaningTowardsLinux
            AskWoody Lounger

            Beside the aformentioned advantages, it is one of the latest pre-telemetry versions that is available on oldversion.com, a website that offers previous official versions of various software without any hidden ad/malware. I maybe could have found a later version, but then I wouldn’t be certain about its integrity.
            And more cleaning does not necessarily mean better cleaning.

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    • #217059 Reply

      JohnW
      AskWoody Lounger

      I intentionally upgraded to v5.46.  Turned off the telemetry option in privacy settings.

      And for good measure I’ve blocked the following apps in my firewall:

      CCleaner

      CCleaner Emergency Updater

      CCleaner Installer

       

      No worries!  🙂

       

    • #217415 Reply

      JohnW
      AskWoody Lounger

      If you are really concerned about CCleaner, just use BleachBit.   https://www.bleachbit.org/

      Free and open-source, for Windows and Linux.  🙂

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    • #217433 Reply

      Steve S.
      AskWoody Lounger

      I’ve used CCleaner for years (rarely using the registry cleaner) and have found it generally useful, safe and robust. The times they are a changin’, though.

      Until recently, I had 5.38 CCleaner with “inform me of updates” and “send anonymous data” both unchecked. I can confirm that I’ve been silently and forcibly updated to 5.46 without my consent. Sending of data was turned back on without my consent. Every time I open the program an Avast cookie is regenerated which I promptly delete. Two CCUpdater tasks existed which I’ve now deleted. I’ve also deleted CCUpdater.exe and .ini,  changed the settings back to not sending data and deleted incoming firewall rules that allowed CCUpdater. I haven’t created outbound rules but will do so shortly.

      I’ll be watching for any changes going forward – while I seriously evaluate other tools to replace this sneaky ugliness.

      The software industry is running amok everywhere, it seems. I understand that there are trade-offs when using free software but there should be clear and simple communications within installers and the UI, respecting the user’s ability to accept or decline those trade-offs. If I choose not to accept the trade-offs, I would understand if the installer exited. Or offered me the choice to buy a ‘full’ version.

      Unfortunately, even paid-for ‘full’ versions of software still scrape data, track, invade privacy and monetize beyond the price paid by the user –  often without the average user’s knowledge. It all feels almost criminal. I detest being a ‘resource’ to be mined. <rant finished>

       

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    • #217434 Reply

      JohnW
      AskWoody Lounger

      Unfortunately, even paid-for ‘full’ versions of software still scrape data, track, invade privacy and monetize beyond the price paid by the user – often without the average user’s knowledge. It all feels almost criminal. I detest being a ‘resource’ to be mined. <rant finished>

      It does appear that the “average user” had been pwned.

      Gotta be 5% smarter than the average … 🙂

      (Like no need to be able to out run a bear, just gotta be faster than your buddy).

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    • #217441 Reply

      Steve S.
      AskWoody Lounger

      Update since doing my previous tweaks:

      After many cycles of opening/running/closing CCleaner, none of my settings have been changed. The two scheduled tasks have not been regenerated. Nor have the inbound firewall rules. This is all encouraging – though the Avast cookie continued to regenerate each time I opened the program.

      Then, attempting to lock down any “phone home” behavior, I created two outbound firewall rules completely blocking CCleaner64.exe and CCleaner.exe. Happily, now the Avast cookie doesn’t get regenerated either. 🙂

      Still, keeping a hawk-eye!

    • #228553 Reply

      EP
      AskWoody MVP

      CCleaner version 5.48 was released, which improves compatiblity with the Windows 10 v1809 release (if & when Microsoft will actually re-launched this version):
      https://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/download

      v5.48 release notes:
      v5.48.6834 (25 Oct 2018)

      Browser Cleaning
      – Added workaround for cleaning Edge while in the ‘suspended’ state on Windows 10, build 1809. – This workaround is temporary while we consider a more permanent solution.
      – Fixed cleaning of Edge cookies in Windows 10
      – Fixed a bug where cleaning Firefox Internet History would corrupt the profile

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