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      • #101775 Reply
        ch100
        AskWoody_MVP

        There has been some movement in Windows Update in the last 24 hours, some important and some with little impact and normally not noticeable.

        5 new patches were released late and this was mentioned in few other posts:
        KB3150513 was re-released for Windows 10 1511 32/64 bits, Windows 10 1607 32/64 bits and a first time for Windows Server 2016, in total 5 patches.

        The server patch is a surprise to me, as KB3150513 require the functionality equivalent to what KB2952664 brings to Windows 7, but KB2952664 was never released for the server version Windows 2008 R2, although I think the patch for Windows 7 64-bit can be installed manually on the server if desired.

        The releases of KB3150513 for Windows 10 and Windows 2016 makes me think again about the recommendation for KB2952664 for Windows 7.
        I have to say that I am not interested at all in what a lot of people consider snooping when doing this analysis. The fact is that by installing KB2952664/KB3150513 on Windows 7, the functionality of Windows 7 in this area is brought at the same level with the functionality of Windows 10, desirable or not.

        The other evolution on Windows Update is that 14 patches, all of them related to .NET Framework different versions and different OS from November and December 2016 have been revised. It is likely that all have had metadata revised in relation to supersedence, which is a regular occurrence and most people would not notice anything being changed.

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      • #101782 Reply
        PhotM
        AskWoody Plus

        Your on top of it CH100,

        Went a checked my W 10.0 1607 RR IP partition and sure enough there is “KB3150513”.

        Woody is on it too:
        http://www.infoworld.com/article/3065380/microsoft-windows/mystery-solved-kb-3150513-is-another-windows-10-update-enabling-patch.html

        Microsoft is not:
        https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/3150513/latest-compatibility-definition-update-for-windows

        Installed on my Release Ring(RR) Beta partition. No Restart required, no issues so far.

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        1. Tower Totals: 2xSSD ~512GB, 2xHHD 20 TB, Memory 32GB

        SSDs: 6xOS Partitions, 2xW8.1 Main & Test, 2x10.0 Test, Pro, x64

        CPU i7 2600 K, SandyBridge/CougarPoint, 4 cores, 8 Threads, 3.4 GHz
        Graphics Radeon RX 580, RX 580 ONLY Over Clocked
        More perishable

        2xMonitors Asus DVI, Sony 55" UHD TV HDMI

        1. NUC 5i7 2cores, 4 Thread, Memory 8GB, 3.1 GHz, M2SSD 140GB
        1xOS W8.1 Pro, NAS Dependent, Same Sony above.

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        • #101783 Reply
          ch100
          AskWoody_MVP

          Microsoft is not:
          https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/3150513/latest-compatibility-definition-update-for-windows

          I think this article was updated since you checked it.

          Update detail information

          Prerequisites

          This update will be offered only if the following prerequisite updates are installed:

          On Windows 10 Version 1607: the March 14, 2017, cumulative update (KB4013429)
          On Windows 10 Version 1511: the August 9, 2016, cumulative update (KB3176493 )
          On Windows 8.1 and Windows 8: update 2976978
          On Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1): update 2952664
          On Windows 7 RTM: update 2977759

          Article ID: 3150513 – Last Review: Mar 16, 2017 – Revision: 7

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          • #101800 Reply
            PhotM
            AskWoody Plus

            I am talking about, what is in it, what it is about? Not what it applies to…..

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            1. Tower Totals: 2xSSD ~512GB, 2xHHD 20 TB, Memory 32GB

            SSDs: 6xOS Partitions, 2xW8.1 Main & Test, 2x10.0 Test, Pro, x64

            CPU i7 2600 K, SandyBridge/CougarPoint, 4 cores, 8 Threads, 3.4 GHz
            Graphics Radeon RX 580, RX 580 ONLY Over Clocked
            More perishable

            2xMonitors Asus DVI, Sony 55" UHD TV HDMI

            1. NUC 5i7 2cores, 4 Thread, Memory 8GB, 3.1 GHz, M2SSD 140GB
            1xOS W8.1 Pro, NAS Dependent, Same Sony above.

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            • #101851 Reply
              ch100
              AskWoody_MVP

              You will never see that info, unless something completely exceptional happens at Microsoft ๐Ÿ™‚
              Until then, you may be able to find something by going through the files contained in the update.
              It is generally believed that this update is similar to definition updates, this time for the functionality included in KB2952664 in Windows 7 or equivalent in other operating systems.
              Think about an antivirus engine and definition updates for a loose analogy.

      • #101804 Reply
        woody
        Da Boss

        I have to say that I am not interested at all in what a lot of people consider snooping when doing this analysis. The fact is that by installing KB2952664/KB3150513 on Windows 7, the functionality of Windows 7 in this area is brought at the same level with the functionality of Windows 10, desirable or not.

        I think I understand.

        The problem with KB 2952664 has to do with telemetry. Not sure if there’s enough reason to install in Win7, if you aren’t moving to Win10.

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      • #101805 Reply
        Noel Carboni
        AskWoody_MVP

        Wow a frenzy of updates this week.

        WUShowHide now sees this available for a Win 10 system that was updated 2 days ago:

        ScreenGrab_W10VM_2017_03_16_175527

        I suppose I’ll give it a whirl and see if anything interesting happens…

        UpdatesStarted

        Done.

        UpdatesDone

        Didn’t even require a reboot.

        -Noel

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      • #101833 Reply
        Noel Carboni
        AskWoody_MVP

        My Windows 7 test system, up to date as of 2 days ago, saw this one just now. A blast from the past!!! ๐Ÿ™‚

        UpdateReadinessTool

        -Noel

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        • #101852 Reply
          ch100
          AskWoody_MVP

          CheckSUR offered by Windows Update?
          I have never seen it offered by Windows Update but I “installed” it many times.
          WU must “think” that there is major CBS corruption on that system.
          It is worth looking through the logs and see what this is about, as I think it is very rare to catch an instance of CheckSUR being offered. ๐Ÿ™‚

          • #101855 Reply
            Noel Carboni
            AskWoody_MVP

            There was no corruption by any means I could see. In fact, per PhotM’s advice I completed a DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth just yesterday on it and it passed with flying colors.

            Nor did the same command today after the above update turn up any problems.

            This one is just weird.

            -Noel

            • #101869 Reply
              ch100
              AskWoody_MVP

              Do those DISM commands work in Windows 7?
              I thought they were just experimental or early and incomplete implementation in Windows 7.
              There are the master logs for CBS under C:\Windows\Logs and may be another location specific to CheckSUR, but I think that one is created only after the scanner is run.
              Could you please check if you don’t have logs above 2GB under C:\Windows\Logs\CBS which cannot be compressed by the 32-bit makecab.exe which may have triggered the offer of CheckSUR?
              Normally the big log files would be associated with a large amount of temporary files under C:\Windows\Temp.
              Just thinking about some common issues.
              I am sure that you have already checked those issues which are unlikely to happen on your systems anyway.

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