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      • #2361157
        Susan Bradley
        Manager

        You can always tell when the Microsoft marketing department comes into full swing. There is something in the news that makes you raise an eyebrow. Tod
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      • #2361159
        anonymous
        Guest

        I always disable all auto-correct and auto-format options. I know what I want, Office doesn’t.

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      • #2361178
        b
        AskWoody MVP

        Stop autocorrecting certain things like HSA into HAS. If I typed in HSA because it’s an accounting term for a Health savings account, I really meant HSA. You need to be smarter about autocorrect. Many times you are not helpful.

        You can remove HSA from the auto-correct list with six clicks:

        Remove entries from the AutoCorrect list

        Windows 10 Pro version 21H1 build 19043.985 + Microsoft 365 (group ASAP)

        • #2361194
          Susan Bradley
          Manager

          I’m lazy. Six clicks is six too many. 🙂

          Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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          • #2361312
            alejr
            AskWoody Lounger

            An easier way to prevent things like HSA from being auto-corrected is to highlight it as all UPPERCASE, select spellcheck, and then add it to your dictionary.

            I’m retired military and regularly used that trick to prevent Word from auto-correcting the various acronyms we used.

            As for the bullet/numbered list thing…

            Yeah, whoever set up the algorithm it uses should be forced to always use those lists for everything they type in Word until they figure out it doesn’t really work and fix it!

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          • #2361350
            access-mdb
            AskWoody MVP

            Despite ‘don’t correct all caps words’ being ticked, it would appear that that applies only to 4 or more letters, not three. E.g. TEH is corrected to THE. This would appear to be a bug as I can’t find anywhere it’s set.

            However, 6 clicks now to save lots more clicks over time, seems a no brainer to me.

            Every day is the dawn of a new error

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      • #2361191
        Simon_Weel
        AskWoody Plus

        What drives you insane about Word?

        Sections. And the accompanying headers/footers.
        Indent. If I press Tab at the beginning of a line to indent it, I expect it to do so when the sentence wraps. Not.
        And there are more quirky things. Probably all a matter of learn how to do it or just live with it.

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      • #2361190
        anonymous
        Guest

        What I don’t like about New Word –

        1. The Ribbon
        2. Turning Classic Word (2003 and earlier) into Interware* New Word (2007 and later)
        3. Keeping help for WordPerfect

         

         

        *Interware is either software or hardware that requires the internet to operate.

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      • #2361187
        anonymous
        Guest

        If you think you have problems, try spell check it from an Australian perspective. I was taught to spell broadly using a UK dictionary but the Macquarie dictionary is the dictionary used in the legal system. There are many differences between US and UK spelling. Microsoft default is the US dictionary. When Windows is configured you get the option to add a dictionary. ‘Add’ is the operative word.

        The end result after loading the dictionary for Australia is both US and Australian spelling are marked correct. To some extent, that’s OK. “Both are acceptable these days” I was told by a University professor.

        What is not acceptable is mixing. For example use ‘capitalize’ somewhere and ‘capitalise’ elsewhere and both will be marked correct in Word. Many years ago the option existed to accept only Australian spelling (you had to jump through hoops to configure it). That is no longer possible. Now, spelling is a mish-mash.  For example, Capitalise is marked incorrect as I type this in my browser but not in Word.

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        • #2361266
          Tom
          AskWoody Plus

          When I took English in high school, we used the Concise Oxford Dictionary. If a word wasn’t in there, it didn’t exist. I too am frustrated by auto correction of correct spelling. I use Libre Office and have been able to remove English US from the list of available languages and make English (UK) the default language and English (Australian) the default localisation. I also have autocorrect turned off in the global options section.

          • #2361292
            SteveTree
            AskWoody Lounger

            Concise Oxford is a first and foremost a UK dictionary (Oxford University English). They publish different dictionaries for different countries. What they don’t do is publish an Australian version.

            Macquarie is the official dictionary for Australia, as used by universities and in law (every Act and every Regulation we have to comply with every day).

            It makes little sense to use Concise Oxford in lower schools and not even make students aware Macquarie is the official Australian dictionary.

            The comes the Word dictionary, which is used on every word students type. It reinforces American spelling via absence of the wiggly red line on ‘misspelt’ (down under) words. Judging by the quality of spelling, Teachers have given up. Who can blame them!

            To really understand an Aussie, you need to find a Strine dictionary. Word doesn’t seem to have the option😀

            Group A (but Telemetry disabled Tasks and Registry)
            Win 7 64 Pro desktop
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            • #2361487
              LH
              AskWoody Plus

              As in “Let Stork Strine” by Afferbeck Lauder.

      • #2361196
        Simon_Weel
        AskWoody Plus

        As for the five fonts, someone who knows about fonts wrote this:
        Arial = Helvetica
        https://www.marksimonson.com/notebook/view/how-to-spot-arial
        Helvetica was copied by Microsoft to Arial.

        Grandview = DIN
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_1451
        Meant for signage, not large pieces of text.

        Seaford = Gill Sans/Joanna Sans
        https://www.myfonts.com/fonts/mti/joanna-sans-nova

        Tenorite = Avenir
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avenir_(typeface)

      • #2361214
        anonymous
        Guest

        My background is in WordPerfect and 123 so never got into the Office experience.  I do have Libre Office for when I need something composed (and it’s pretty clunky IMHO but good enough for what I’m doing).  Fortunately for what I do notepad++ or sublime text works well.

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      • #2361219
        schwabel_ronald
        AskWoody Lounger

        When word processors first came out they called them WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get)

        I got so frustrated trying to use them that I decided that they should be called was: What You See Is Never What You Want.

        I usually use NotePad++ and just create .txt files.

        • #2361295
          doriel
          AskWoody Lounger

          PSPad is also good as Notepad++, PSPad can also edit websites with biult-in FTP connections, which I often use.

          Dell Latitude E6530, Intel Core i5 @ 2.6 GHz, 4GB RAM, W10 20H2 Enterprise

          HAL3000, AMD Athlon 200GE @ 3,4 GHz, 8GB RAM, Fedora 29

      • #2361232
        Bob99
        AskWoody Plus

        What drives you insane about Word?

        As Susan said, when you try to apply special formatting and Word thinks it knows your document better that you do and applies what IT thinks goes there anyway, no matter what you apply!

        Boy, do I ever miss the days of Word Perfect 5.1 with the “reveal codes” split screen that allowed you to go in and modify the formatting codes to make the document look exactly the way you wanted it to look! If Word Perfect or you ever messed up, that screen made it really easy to see and modify the formatting to fix things.

        • #2361249
          Ricard
          AskWoody Plus

          You can still use WordPerfect – it still has the Reveal Codes, and you can use Libre Office (free!) for  better Word compatibility if you need it. See the review of the 2020 version at https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/corel-wordperfect-office . The review complains about the old-fashioned interface, but I find it a plus – I hate the Ribbon even more than I hate trying to format in Word. A hierarchal menu lets you find things without already knowing where they are.

          Frankly, WordPerfect is the major reason I’m not switching to Linux.

           

          Win 7 Pro, 64-Bit, Group B ESU,Ivy Bridge i3-3110M, 2.4GHz, 4GB, XP Mode VM, WordPerfect
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      • #2361260
        Cybertooth
        AskWoody Plus

        Word from Office 2007 and Office 2010 is not so bad (I have little experience with later versions). I don’t know about other Windows-based word processors, but Word has a neat feature where you can take two similar documents and compare them side by side, with the program highlighting the differences. We don’t need this feature often, but when we do it’s a huge time-saver.

        One thing I would change about Word is to get rid of the stupid Ribbon and go back to the logically organized drop-down menus of Word 2000 and 2003. I have been using Word 2007 actually for longer than I ever used Word 2000, and to this day I’m still hunting for where the commands are in the Ribbon.

        Just this week I discovered that you can change the default Blinding White(TM) background of Word 2010 to a light blue similar to Word 2007, and that improved my assessment of that version considerably. Wonder if the same can be done with the 2016 or 2019 versions.

         

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      • #2361265
        Mele20
        AskWoody Lounger

        I loved Word 99 and 2003. But I’ve been using Open Office for many years now. I refused to get a version of Word with that horrible ribbon. I’m not a heavy user and Open Office is fine for me. I had forgotten though until I updated Open Office that it wants me to install Java. That was ok back when I had to have Java for many things…but I’ve been Java free for a long while now. Java used to come as part of the Open Office package but not recently. I don’t think I really need the functionality it gives to Open Office since I am a “casual” user so I’m not installing it.

      • #2361267
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        With LiberOffice Writer you can put as many spaces as you want.

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      • #2361319
        wdburt1
        AskWoody Plus

        I use Word to compile research notes and write.  On my internet-facing computer I upgraded from Word 2003 to 2010 a few years ago, while 2010 was still being supported.  I use it only occasionally.  On my non-internet computer, where I do most of my work, I am still using Word 2003.  I am very comfortable with it.  Word 2010 was not an improvement except in some minor respects, such as the ability to save directly to PDF.

        I offer the following as an example of the improvements Microsoft could have made if it paid attention to creating user benefits instead of the change-for-the-sake-of-change we have seen.  When I write, I have a nasty habit of using the same word twice or more often within a paragraph or two.  These repetitions hide in plain sight.  Rooting them out is an exercise in frustration.

        What we need is a feature that would highlight all instances where the same words are used within XXX words of each other.  This is not the same thing as the existing feature that allows Word to highlight all instances of a given word.  You don’t know what the repetitive words are before running the search.  The program should come with a default list of excluded words like “the.”  The user should be able to customize this list and revert to the default if desired.  The program should have a default value for “XXX,” which can also be customized.  Pressing Enter would take you from each highlighted repetition to the next.  Maybe something could be done with color-coding the highlighting so a particular group of repetitions stands out from others in the vicinity.

        I have yet to see an editing program that offers this feature, and a specialized program should not be required.  Microsoft could have done it long ago.

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      • #2361361
        dhdoyle
        AskWoody Plus

        I hate Word. I am an engineer and technical writer. I have spent much of my life doing highly formatted documents. I have authored 2 professional papers that required the use of a bizarre template. I do things like write 300-page environmental permit applications. Bullet and numbered lists make me pound my fist on the desk. Importing spreadsheet data into tables makes me squint.

        Susan, you are correct. Once my 300 page document is composed, it takes me another week to get the page layout correct. Then it takes another few days to ensure that the PDF version is identical to the print version when viewed in various readers.

        Sigh. This was so much easier when I used WordPerfect.

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      • #2361372
        Chris
        AskWoody Plus

        From my personal perspective, Office 6 was just about right. But I had a later experience with Office 2007 that was a little different.

        I was the editor of a 3000 page document, working with about a hundred “subject matter experts.” The writing was very technical, and our employer had very specific standards for the final product. But each of the “experts” had their own preferred formatting. “Select all” and “clear formatting” became my favorite commands. Microsoft should have offered an “Enterprise” edition of Office for large companies or big projects. It would allow the document editor to lock styles and formatting options, per document, in a way that individual contributors could not change.  When I buy the program I should have control, but when the company buys it they should be able to control the options employees have.

      • #2361380
        anonymous
        Guest

        I too spent decades doing technical writing; product development documents in particular.  A very annoying behavior is how Word indents far too much as you create sections, subsections, details, more details, etc.  Doesn’t take long before you’re more than halfway across the page, which results in weird newspaper like narrow and long paragraphs and far more pages than necessary.

        Yeah you can fix this but if you add one extra indent after introducing your formatting, Word scrambles everything.  Templates?  Hah! Hah! Hah!

        The way images bounce around even if anchored, depending on what you do later on in the document is really silly.

        Maybe if you have a PhD in Word, doing anything in it is easy but it’s supposed to be for earth people.  I can’t imagine what Word does to symbolic languages; its standard grammar, syntax and formatting for English has countless mistakes.

        The live editing feature is nice; they need a better way of showing all the edits which can easily overwhelm the actual document.

        SYNTAX ERROR LINE 984, MS!!!!

        • #2361393
          crayola2
          AskWoody Plus

          I love Word and have gotten used to its foibles (I’m still using Word 2010).  Yes, Autocorrect drives me crazy, but I know how to work around it when I need to, and it saves me a lot.  But I do have issues with line-spacing.  No matter how hard I try to get my default style to single-space within paragraphs, in each new document Word jumps back to big spaces between each line.

          Although I don’t miss WordPerfect, I would love to see a Reveal Codes feature in Word.  I might consider updating my version of Word if Reveal Codes was available.

          • #2362202
            anonymous
            Guest

            I love Word and have gotten used to its foibles (I’m still using Word 2010).  Yes, Autocorrect drives me crazy, but I know how to work around it when I need to, and it saves me a lot.  But I do have issues with line-spacing.  No matter how hard I try to get my default style to single-space within paragraphs, in each new document Word jumps back to big spaces between each line.

            Although I don’t miss WordPerfect, I would love to see a Reveal Codes feature in Word.  I might consider updating my version of Word if Reveal Codes was available.



            @Crayola2
            Changing Style within a document only changes it for that document. If you wish to change it for all documents, you need to change the default document template (normal.dot).

      • #2361388
        howardagoldberg
        AskWoody Plus

        Not to be contrary … but actually, overall, I really enjoy the Office 365 Word experience (dark mode!), and find the Ribbon to be superior to the ‘older’ drop down menu navigation.

        The bullet/numbering/outline issues can be a pain at times, and agree with Susan that the presumed line-spacing is never what I want (I usually set to single space or 1.15, and adjust spacing between paragraphs by changing the font size for the blank line – far more control that way as one may want different spacing between major sections vs. paragraphs within a section, etc). Of course, that approach comes with its own challenges (like remembering what spacing I choose to be consistent through the document).

        Through the 1990s and early 2000s, I used WordPerfect. The one thing I continue to dearly miss is ‘Reveal Codes.’ That was/is a very powerful feature. It dismays me to this day that Word still does not have a similar feature. So many formatting mysteries could be resolved quickly and without much fuss if one could see the formatting codes, and just delete the offending ‘code.’

        I know WordPerfect is still out there, but working with colleagues around the world – using that software would certainly introduce its own share of challenges with regard to formatting, etc.

        • #2361421
          RamRod
          AskWoody Plus

          The transition from WP to Classic Word and then New Word, and now InterWord is not complete. IMHO users still don’t understand the basic change in paradigm from WP to Word (any version).

          WP was a ‘do until told to stop or do something else or in addition’ paradigm. It used a mechanical typewriter paradigm. Thus, if you look at the reveal codes you’d observe something like ‘caps on……….caps off’. That told the text editor to use uppercase between the on and off codes. You could nest an almost infinite number of instructions (codes) in WP, if you could keep track of them – thus the reveal codes mode.

          Word (the windows versions) on the other hand used the object-oriented paradigm of ‘select and do’. Thus in Word for Windows, you selected an object (text, graphics, etc.) and told Word what to do to it – Bold, Italicize, Copy, delete, indent, etc..

          WP was conceived in the DOS era and had to have WYSIWYG bolted on – and WP struggled with that process, taking so long that they opened the door for Word for Windows. We all know how that turned out.

          Word for Windows was a reworked version of Word for DOS (the first computer program I bought from a store – version 5.0!) that had WYSIWYG baked in from the beginning. I used Word for Windows 1.0 on Windows 2.01 (a run-time version of windows that predated Win 3.0) beginning in 1989.

          I wish more people understood the difference in paradigms – it might make their transition from WP to Word easier. But it is a good thing that WP for Windows exists, is viable, and might be a solution for your computing needs. Choice is GOOD.

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          • #2361427
            anonymous
            Guest

            Yes, one commenter on WordPerfect versus MS Word called WP’s  method “streaming formatting”.

            The trouble I find with Word is that it’s difficult to tell exactly which particular Object has the formatting in question.

            Example: if I have a block of Bold in the middle of a sentence and I want to add text to the front of the block, in Word I’ve learned to start it after the first bolded letter and then delete that letter. Trying to position the cursor right at the changeover is problematic. In WP, though, even without looking at Reveal Codes,the cursor is definitely before or after the [Bold] code, and the toolbar and status bar shows that.

            • #2361431
              RamRod
              AskWoody Plus

              I concur. I sometimes found the reveal codes useful. But in general, I prefer the select and do paradigm. It works for me.

              • #2361454
                Ascaris
                AskWoody MVP

                I concur. I sometimes found the reveal codes useful. But in general, I prefer the select and do paradigm. It works for me.

                They’re not mutually exclusive. It would be possible to have a reveal codes mode within Word if MS wanted it to. The markup codes are still there, even if there is no option to display them.

                 

                 

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              • #2361462
                RamRod
                AskWoody Plus

                My understanding is that all of the ‘codes’ are stored in the paragraph mark at the end of each paragraph. There is a run-length-designator that points the codes at the target object.

                To test this theory, create a sentence. Make part of it normal. Part italic. Part Bold. Then make a following sentence.

                Delete the paragraph mark at the end of the first paragraph and observe the results.

                 

              • #2361478
                RamRod
                AskWoody Plus

                Nope. My own experiment failed. I’m going to keep researching this.

          • #2361521
            Wheel_D
            AskWoody Lounger

            Regrettably, I’d contend that WordPerfect is not viable–indeed, it no longer exists in any meaningful way. Although WordPerfect and its sister applications remain available for sale, Corel ceased almost all WP-related development after the early 2000s. Subsequent “releases” have consisted of essentially nothing beyond refreshed packaging, along with–perhaps–a token feature tweak. Corel no longer even bothers to develop patches for any version.

            Corel’s got quite the cow pie cash cow, and it’s delighted to charge hundreds of dollars for the privilege of access. (Hey, somebody’s gotta pay for the slick site, right?)

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      • #2361394
        Still Anonymous
        AskWoody Lounger

        To me, a recurring theme in the various complaints about Word is Microsoft’s relative aggressiveness of trying to anticipate what you’re going to do (and often forcing you into their preferences of how they expect things to be done).  And for good measure, where their automation too often guesses wrong. I think I could better tolerate all that if there was a WordPerfect-like capacity of Reveal Codes to see what is actually being done, and the ability to make corrections.

        I currently do a lot of work in Word 2019, and am mostly accustomed to things (even in tolerating the Ribbon, and competence, if not expertise in handling of styles), but I know that when I was doing my Master’s thesis in Word 2000, the formatting got so bollixed up that I ended up exporting the entire document to text, so that I could start over on the formatting.

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        • #2361414
          RamRod
          AskWoody Plus

          Styles are probably the most powerful aspect of Word (any version) and might also be the least appreciated if not known.

          One of the key shortcomings of Word, IMHO, is the inability to perform a general or partial reset of the built in styles.

          Susan, it is likely that you made a permanent change to your normal or paragraph style that is causing your problem. Maybe not.

          What could have occurred is that at some time you changed the line spacing and somehow updated the style to include that new spacing. One of the factors that you can set in each style is the style of the paragraph that follows once you press the return key. Thus, if you changed the style that follows your current style, even if you change the current paragraph, the next time you press enter you’ll get the permanent style applied to the next paragraph.

          See the attached file for the specific dialog in one of the current versions of New Word.word-screenshot

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        • #2361457
          Ascaris
          AskWoody MVP

          To me, a recurring theme in the various complaints about Word is Microsoft’s relative aggressiveness of trying to anticipate what you’re going to do (and often forcing you into their preferences of how they expect things to be done). And for good measure, where their automation too often guesses wrong. I think I could better tolerate all that if there was a WordPerfect-like capacity of Reveal Codes to see what is actually being done, and the ability to make corrections.

          I don’t use Word, but the editor I am using to write this text now into this web page did that just the other day when I tried to use an asterisk for its original purpose (writing a single footnote). When I entered the asterisk at the bottom of the post, it thought I was trying to create a bulleted list, and automatically selected the bulleted-list mode for me, transforming the asterisk into a bullet. When I manually turned off the bulleted-list mode, it got rid of the bullet… and the asterisk I’d entered. Re-entering the asterisk again selected bulleted-text mode.

          Fortunately, the Text tab is present, which is the same as a reveal codes button, and within that I was able to have it display what I actually typed and not some other thing it guessed (incorrectly) that I was doing.

           

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      • #2361426
        Ascaris
        AskWoody MVP

        “There needs to be a PFS write mode – something that would make it not autocorrect, not try to be helpful in formatting and numbering and just let us type.”

        You mean it doesn’t have that as an option?

        At least “Clippy” asked first!

         

         

         

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      • #2361432
        anonymous
        Guest

        I remember PFS Write.  I used it a long time ago for my correspondence while my 20MB hard drive was being repaired (turned out it had to be replaced).  PFS Write would fit on a five and a quarter inch floppy disc in my IBM PC,while WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS would not.

        I got PFS-Write in a special promotion for $20.

        Nowadays, I use LibreOffice.

         

      • #2361479
        GreatAndPowerfulTech
        AskWoody Lounger

        Office 365 randomly changing my settings and moving things around over time annoyed me to the point were we now use Libre Office, set so that new documents are save in MS Office 365 format. It looks more primitive, but is much less annoying to use.

        GreatAndPowerfulTech

      • #2361499
        mbhelwig
        AskWoody Lounger

        For those who do not like the ribbon menu in MS office — Try this little addon —

        https://www.ubit.ch/software/ubitmenu-languages/

        I use MS office 2007 where I do some voluntary work but I dislike it greatly.

        At home I used OpenOffice for years and now LibreOffice.

        M.B. Helwig

        mbhelwig

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      • #2361501
        Tem
        AskWoody Plus

        God, where to begin…  Word has grown to be a hopeless, bloated mess.  If only MS had never attempted to change it from being a pretty good word processor into the crappy publishing app that it is.

        Show me a large, complicated Word document with formatting issues, and I’ll show you one that crashes the app when you try to fix them.

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        • #2361590
          Biiljoy
          AskWoody Lounger

          They used to have microsoft word and microsoft publisher as separate apps, idk if publisher was done away with or why ruin word so badly.  I don’t need text to be formatted so any text editor works for me so I don’t use it.  All I really need is spellcheck.  We are in a race to the bottom.

      • #2361582
        Noel Carboni
        AskWoody_MVP

        I once, years ago in the late 90s, figured out that Word’s default templates are where you want to put a lot of your effort, plus tweaks to dozens if not hundreds of settings. After doing that, all my documents just started out and formatted the way I wanted. What a pleasure!

        I remember it took me some weeks to figure out just how to set everything up. At that time I was no less than a Word God, I understood all the subtleties and connections between things. When I would type a heading, not only did it do what I wanted, but when I hit Enter even the NEXT lines were coming out right. Headers and footers automatically gave me page numbers, company boilerplate about confidentiality, even the document filename and version saved. I could whip up a professional memo or report in seconds. It was a golden time.

        Trouble was, at some point years later, after having changed computers, operating systems, and/or Word versions, all that work on .dot file and Word setup just became non-functional somehow. Perhaps I just didn’t have enough time at the time to resurrect all that knowledge of where things are supposed to be kept.

        Now I’m in the boat with you, Susan. I know it can be better. I even have a few ongoing documents where I’ve saved styles where it IS better. But that magical time when Word Just Worked is gone for me. I don’t even get auto-signatures on my Outlook eMails any more. I know the settings are there. But real work demands my time, and the settings again go un-tweaked.

        Microsoft might say that my real problem is that I don’t have a Microsoft Account, one login for all with which all wonderful things would be consolidated, and just shared between my systems. Unfortunately, that’s not it at all. I’ve had two or three machines in the past decade. It’s on the very same machine with the very same login, because of all the wheeling out of new versions and the incessant required installs of Windows that the continuity was lost. And it’s just too much of a pain to go back and find all those tweaks and customizations again.

        Before you accuse me of mismanagement, I have every bit of data I have ever created with a computer. Granted, some of it is on punch cards and mag tapes I really have no way of reading now, but that which goes back to when Windows was new is still right here, on my disks. I don’t lose data. Microsoft loses data and continuity of care, and it’s up to us to keep re-tweaking our preferred settings and re-crafting Windows into something useful. For a time that was fun; I even wrote books about it. Now it’s just getting tiring.

        How did we get to a place where the people who make operating systems have no idea how to use an operating system?

        -Noel

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      • #2361583
        Noel Carboni
        AskWoody_MVP

        A separate anecdote:

        Yesterday I needed to update a company document shared via Sharepoint. Usually I just open the file and edit. Trouble was, as my noon deadline for publishing the updates grew near, when I would open it all I would see was essentially a blank “New Document 1”.

        Turned out that deep in my stack of dozens if not hundreds of open applications across 4 monitors, I already had the document open; in a Word session behind everything else. Such is the nature and complexity of work.

        Did word pop a message saying “can’t open another copy”? Did it just open another copy (it is a shared document, after all, where multiple people CAN actually open it at the same time)?

        No. Just a blank document. Maximum stress (because of imagining the whole document is now lost).

        -Noel

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        • #2361763
          anonymous
          Guest

          OK, I’m a WordPerfect fan, and IT gives you a dialog if you try to open an already-open file:

          “The document is in use or is specified as read-only. You may edit the document, but you must save it with a new name. Continue? Yes No”

          Also nice that it explains the rename consequence if you do open again (and you can dismiss the warning in future if you lik.)

      • #2361902
        WSrhl2000
        AskWoody Plus

        Susan,

        this autocorrect of  “HSA” into “HAS” (for example) is indeed, a good example of Word’s generic settings not fitting some people’s personal needs.

        When anticipating a lot of this behavior while creating a new document, how about using WordPad and saving as “.docs”?  Not useful when revising, I would presume… but at least it’s something…

        For those still using Word 2007 or Word 2010 and disliking the ribbon interface, I second the recommendation that they check out UBitMenu.

      • #2361919
        bbotz
        AskWoody Plus

        You can EASILY fix the autocorrect for HSA/HAS. Click File, Options, Proofing. Click the Autocorrect Options… button. Type HSA in the box and delete the correction.

        That’s not all Autocorrect is good for, you know… Put in three letters, like CPN and enter your cell phone number. Any time you type CPN<space>, it will replace it with your cell phone number. Very useful.

      • #2362134
        michael_ny
        AskWoody Plus

        did you slip this one in your article just to see if anyone was paying attention?

        “Sometimes Word is just possessed in how it things you want things spaced.”

        or did you really mean ” … how it thinks you want things spaced.”

         

        thnx for continued great work

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