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    The reason for starting this thread is to warn users of streaming services of a significant problem discussed in a more limited context here:

    https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/for-past-2-3-weeks-cbs-all-access-wont-play-anything-in-my-web-browsers/#post-2319249

    There lounger GoneToPlaid asked for help with the following problem: he subscribes to CBS All Access, but when he connected to that streaming site with any of his browsers he would get to the point where he would select some show and, instead of it he would get the “downloading” turning wheel running indefinitely and he would not get to see the show.

    I had a similar problem with Netflix, some time ago, but it was limited to the one browser, so I kept streaming with another.

    In the first case, the problem seems to have been that CBS All Access had stopped supporting Windows 7, the OS in GoneToPlaid’s computer, although he is one of those users that keep patching this system either with the extended service offered by MS or by a third party, so it is always up to date.

    In my case, the problem was that my default browser, Waterfox, is increasingly being deprecated by streaming services, as first by Netflix and now by Amazon Prime (not a complete flat denial, rather loss of functionality, such as not being able to pause videos.)

    Now the problem underneath both cases is this: the operators of some Web sites, at least for streaming video, one good day decide to deprecate old operating systems and, or some browsers so their subscribers using these can no longer get, whether fully or partially, whatever services are offered there — and already have been paid for — , but they do not let their users know about the change, so they have to figure it out by themselves. Which is not just annoying but wastes people’s time trying to do something about it believing there is something wrong with their software or their computers. And since some of those same sites are not exactly forthcoming and helpful to users in their “user support” pages, in some cases such as GoneToPlaid’s problem where his actual OS was deprecated, it becomes really hard to figure this out.

    Fortunately, the issue was resolved, in GoneToPlaid’s case, by spoofing the site to make it “believe” that the system was not Windows 7, as explained by GTP in that other thread:

    I just installed the User-Agent Switcher and Manager add-on for Firefox. I then switched the user agent string to indicate Firefox on Windows 10. That fixed it instantly. Thank you for the tip that CBS discontinued support for Windows 7.

    Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

    MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
    Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
    macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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      How far we have come. It wasn’t so long ago that a certain chess info website that I used to frequent, would support only Internet Explorer. If you used Firefox (Chrome was in its infancy at the time), you were out of luck as far as they were concerned. And they were very upfront about it.

      I have yet to run into any sites that won’t let me in at all when using Windows 7, although of course the number of sites where specifically IE doesn’t work is slowly growing. A more serious matter (to me) is the considerably larger proportion of websites that remain accessible but less than fully functional on my Vista systems, because major browsers are no longer updated for that platform. For example, I can go in and click on hyperlinks, but menus and logins no longer work.

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        For example, I can go in and click on hyperlinks, but menus and logins no longer work.

        Ive seen that too on my ancient UMAX notebook (10+ years old). But I blame browser updates more that user agent strings, because my Firefox is discontinued, it simply does not know new standards in XHTML, I think. Some pages work, some dont.
        My system on that ancient NTB is Fedora 20 Heisenbug. It worked until day, when notification about my outdated browser popped up. I cant play Youtube anymore for example.

        Dell Latitude E6530, Intel Core i5 @ 2.6 GHz, 4GB RAM, W10 20H2 Enterprise

        HAL3000, AMD Athlon 200GE @ 3,4 GHz, 8GB RAM, Fedora 29

        PRUSA i3 MK3S+

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