• stuck at 21H2

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    #2486040

    I use WuMgr

    I did the registry fix to allow it to put my I7-7600 to win 11

    after doing the updates dated the 13th and 22nd I get this:

    Screen-Shot-10-06-22-at-02.19-PM

    - Thinkpad P15s Gen1 20T4-002KUS, i7-10510U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500GB M.2.
    - ThinkPad T570-20HA, i7-7600U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500G M.2.
    - Win 10 22H2. WuMgr. HP laserjets M254dw & P1606dn, Epson 2480 scanner.

    • This topic was modified 1 month, 4 weeks ago by krism.
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    • #2486048

      Did you have any error messages when you attempted the upgrade?

      The Windows 11 22H2 build may have changed, but here’s how I made the leap on September 20, 2022:
      https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/22h2-for-windows-11-is-out/page/2/#post-2480371

      If you check for updates after downloading and installing from “Download Windows 11”, preview updates will be shown. Avoid them.

      If you decide to try this method, make a backup first. Your mileage may vary.

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      • #2486070

        No error messages but I had to tell  WuMgr NOT to disallow regular windows update and rebooted a few times and now it ( Windows PC Health Check app) says that it is disallowing it because of my cpu(I7-7600), even though the initial registry fix which I put on to allow the initial update from 10 to 11 is still there in registry.

        I think maybe I am stuck for this laptop. It seems clear that MS will make it very hard for us older machines at each future semi anual or whatever update.

        I wonder if there’s an easy way to go back to win10?

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        • #2486092

          Did you attempt the above interactive download?

          Do you have an image backup before you started the changes?

          I failed to notice that there was a hijacker. My apologies for this failure to notice. Some answers were addressed to the hijacker. Please ignore those messages.

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    • #2486051

      Now I’m getting another download & install of the pic attached

      Yesterday;s download & install took 2 hours.  whats this one?

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      • #2486053

        What you have shown in your attachment is the Windows 11 22H2 Preview update. Leave it alone.

        You need to determine your current Windows version and build on your computer.

        • Press the Windows Key + R
        • Type: winver

        What do you have?

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    • #2486069

      Win 11 22H2.22621.608 which is what you have on your computer corresponds with the Preview update for September Windows 22H2. Is this 2022-09 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5017389) update also showing in your update queue?

      You do have Windows 11 22H2. Given your build, you should not see 2022-09 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5017389) in your update queue.

      Edited to include name of hijacker @wEarwOlf505cole. Start your own thread. Your problem is different.

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    • #2486071

      Win 11 22H2.22621.608 which is what you have on your computer corresponds with the Preview update for September Windows 22H2. Is this 2022-09 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5017389) update also showing in your update queue?

      You do have Windows 11 22H2. Given your build, you should not see 2022-09 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5017389) in your update queue.

      - Thinkpad P15s Gen1 20T4-002KUS, i7-10510U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500GB M.2.
      - ThinkPad T570-20HA, i7-7600U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500G M.2.
      - Win 10 22H2. WuMgr. HP laserjets M254dw & P1606dn, Epson 2480 scanner.

      • #2486074
        Carpe Diem {with backup and coffee}
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    • #2486072

      wondering why you hijacked my thread? 🙂

      - Thinkpad P15s Gen1 20T4-002KUS, i7-10510U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500GB M.2.
      - ThinkPad T570-20HA, i7-7600U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500G M.2.
      - Win 10 22H2. WuMgr. HP laserjets M254dw & P1606dn, Epson 2480 scanner.

      • #2486082

        I am not sure what you mean by hijacked your thread.

        To all intents and purposes you have September Windows Cumulative Preview installed and September Windows Cumulative Preview in your update queue.

        It leaves the question Is the September Cumulative Preview installed or not?

        Carpe Diem {with backup and coffee}
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    • #2486079

      winver:

      Screen-Shot-10-06-22-at-03.45-PM

      - Thinkpad P15s Gen1 20T4-002KUS, i7-10510U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500GB M.2.
      - ThinkPad T570-20HA, i7-7600U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500G M.2.
      - Win 10 22H2. WuMgr. HP laserjets M254dw & P1606dn, Epson 2480 scanner.

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      • #2486088

        @krism:

        Did you have any error messages when you attempted the upgrade?

        The Windows 11 22H2 build may have changed, but here’s how I made the leap on September 20, 2022:
        https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/22h2-for-windows-11-is-out/page/2/#post-2480371

        If you check for updates after downloading and installing from “Download Windows 11”, preview updates will be shown. Avoid them.

        If you decide to try this method, make a backup first. Your mileage may vary.

        Carpe Diem {with backup and coffee}
        offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender
        offline▸ Acer TravelMate P215-52 RAM8GB Win11Pro 22H2.22621.674 x64 i5-10210U SSD Firefox106.0 MicrosoftDefender
        online▸ Win11Pro 22H2.22621.819 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox108.0b7 MicrosoftDefender
    • #2486086

      @wEarwOlf505cole

      https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/stuck-at-21h2/#post-2486069
      The attachment shown above clearly shows Win11 22H2

      https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/stuck-at-21h2/#post-2486051
      The attachment shown above clearly shows Win11 22H2

      Edited to include name of hijacker @wEarwOlf505cole. Start your own thread. Your problem is different.

      Carpe Diem {with backup and coffee}
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    • #2486112

      I am at 21H1.

      I get no error messages from windows update.

      WindowsPCHealthCheckSetup.msi just downloaded, says My cpu is old. (I7-7600).

      I put the registry patch on way back when I upgraded from 10 to 11. That is still there. I know of no other patch to put on.

      wEarwOlf505cole answered your post and you have spent all your efforts on him, not my OP. Thanks.

      Screen-Shot-10-06-22-at-02.19-PM-1
      Screen-Shot-10-06-22-at-03.45-PM-1

      - Thinkpad P15s Gen1 20T4-002KUS, i7-10510U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500GB M.2.
      - ThinkPad T570-20HA, i7-7600U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500G M.2.
      - Win 10 22H2. WuMgr. HP laserjets M254dw & P1606dn, Epson 2480 scanner.

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    • #2486116

      My profound apologies. I failed to notice that there was a hijacker. My apologies for this failure to notice. I’m currently trying to figure out another way for you to get Win11 22H2.

      Carpe Diem {with backup and coffee}
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    • #2486120

      If I remember correctly, the minimum processor is the next iteration after yours. If that’s the Registry patch you have in place, I would look for another requirement for 22H2 that wasn’t there for 21H2, and that you may not have accounted for.

      Assuming you have a full disk image…..
      Have you tried using MCT or ISO to do an upgrade instead of getting it through Winsows Update/WUMgr?

      But MS has an “I told you so” about installing on unsanctioned h/w 🙂

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    • #2486124

      Make an image backup.

      Go to:
      https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

      a1

      Run downloaded mediacreationtool.exe

      a2

      Make sure a USB flash drive is blank and use it to create your installation flash drive.

      When the installation flash drive completes, run Setup.exe from the flash drive.

      These next steps may not be quite in order, but this is the information.

      The step which may provide difficulty is “Making sure you’re ready to install” which may or may not accept your system.

      a3

      a4

      a5

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    • #2486141

      Pardon all for delay. I did try an approach that suggested changing the appraiserres.dll file in the mounted 11 22H2, but that did not work.

      So I went back to win 10 22H2 since I had an iso already from what I installed as a VM to Mint. I did this by mounting (double click) the iso in 11 and clicking on setup. It did not allow me to keep anything since it noted I was going backwards. pita, but been a while since fresh install, so here it is. It then took me a while to sync the tabs and stuff from the FF on Mint to the FF on win 10 and so now, finally, here I am typing away and able to answer this. I’ll have to install all the other stuff but I will figure out as I go.

      Yes, I had everything backed up with Macrium but that reminds me that I better go back thup now.

      bye.

      - Thinkpad P15s Gen1 20T4-002KUS, i7-10510U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500GB M.2.
      - ThinkPad T570-20HA, i7-7600U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500G M.2.
      - Win 10 22H2. WuMgr. HP laserjets M254dw & P1606dn, Epson 2480 scanner.

    • #2486181

      I just got done installing Windows 11 22H2 09/25/2022 a second time.
      I used the media creation tool to produce a Windows 11 22H2 iso file to burn to a 4 GB DVD (the regular iso file download is too big).
      It would not install in the normal manner because my CPU, TCP 1.2 and BIOS do not meet its requirements.
      First time the install was successful when setup was run from a freshly installed Windows 10 22H2 with a zero length appraiserres.dll.

      But I wanted to see if I could install using only the DVD.
      So went about trying to install it again this time running only from the Windows 11 22H2 DVD but it absolutely refused to do so.
      So I went with the method given by How to Clean Install Windows 11 Using DISM on Any HDD/SSD.

      (Gosh, this felt like working underneath a car!)

      Anyway, I used the Windows 11 22H2 DVD to get into a command shell via the “Repair Your Computer” option.
      This gives you a X:\sources> command prompt.
      Running diskpart’s “list disk” command shows what the drive letters are for the DVD and the HDD.
      I created a D:\Windows.save folder in the HDD’s root and moved the all the other folders shown by “DIR /A D:\” except D:\Windows.old in root into it.
      I used “ATTRIB -H -S PerfLogs” etc. to make them visible to the MOVE command.
      Running “DISM /GET-IMAGEINFO /IMAGEFILE:I:\sources\install.esd” showed Windows 11 Pro at index 6.
      So then I ran “DISM /APPLY-IMAGE /IMAGEFILE:I:\sources\install.esd /INDEX:6 /APPLYDIR:E:\” to install the files.
      When that finished I closed the shell and rebooted the system.
      Windows 11 Pro came up without complaints, and it went thru the usual setup questions Region, Keyboard, Computer name, etc.
      It required a network connection and checked for updates in two places.
      I used the domain choice and the other sign-in options to create a local account.
      Works fine now.

      HP Compaq 6000 Pro SFF PC / Windows 10 Pro / 21H2
      Intel®Core™2 “Wolfdale” E8400 3.0 GHz / 8.00 GB
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    • #2486182

      Very obtuse. Interesting that you got it to work. Much too complicated for me. I will leave win 11 alone unless I upgrade my laptop – something I seem to do every few years or so – mainly waiting for an affordable Lenovo with an x4 path to the NVME (mine is only x2 even though the chip itself is x4 – limit of the interface. Win 10 lasts for 3 more years with support. That is a very long time, in the nature of all things.

      I should have also added that the way I went back to 10 did not destroy my grub boot to Mint, which was very nice – made things lots easier. I am in the middle of adding some games to win 10 (GOG and steam) so I must be fairly well along.

      I had been using Mint but booted to win11 to see about the 22H2 update but realized that MS is going to do its level best to prevent folks from doing what I did. I do not have a prob with that.

      I will not look further at this thread. Thanks all!

      - Thinkpad P15s Gen1 20T4-002KUS, i7-10510U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500GB M.2.
      - ThinkPad T570-20HA, i7-7600U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500G M.2.
      - Win 10 22H2. WuMgr. HP laserjets M254dw & P1606dn, Epson 2480 scanner.

    • #2486218

      says My cpu is old. (I7-7600).

      I think the old trick of installing Win 11 on unsupported CPUs still works with your registry hack :
      Copy install.wim from Windows 11 22H2 ISO into Windows 11 21H2 ISO.
      Now you can install 22H2.

    • #2486343

      my apologies for posting on someone else’s thread !  won’t happen again

      • #2486597

        life happens. no worries.

        - Thinkpad P15s Gen1 20T4-002KUS, i7-10510U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500GB M.2.
        - ThinkPad T570-20HA, i7-7600U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500G M.2.
        - Win 10 22H2. WuMgr. HP laserjets M254dw & P1606dn, Epson 2480 scanner.

    • #2486596

      Alex, trust me, it doesn’t. I checked my registry and it is still there but MS wouldn’t allow it to proceed.  And if you google, scuttlebut is rampant that MS is and will make it incrementally harder to cheat. Thus, I went back to 10 for this machine.

      Be well!

      - Thinkpad P15s Gen1 20T4-002KUS, i7-10510U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500GB M.2.
      - ThinkPad T570-20HA, i7-7600U, UEFI/GPT, 16GB, Sammy 500G M.2.
      - Win 10 22H2. WuMgr. HP laserjets M254dw & P1606dn, Epson 2480 scanner.

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