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Tasks for the weekend – January 9, 2021
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January 9, 2021 at 11:35 pm #2327844
Susan Bradley
ManagerYouTube Video here Since this is a hot topic in the forum, I’d like to recap what you need to do to manually remove flash from your system. You may s
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January 10, 2021 at 12:48 am #2327917
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January 10, 2021 at 1:27 am #2327954
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January 10, 2021 at 1:36 am #2327965
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January 12, 2021 at 12:00 pm #2331660
anonymous
GuestAfter installing the patch, a search with Everything for “adobe flash” finds 25 objects. A search for “flash player” finds 13 objects. “macromedia” still finds 2 objects.
The whole of flash is still present in WinSxS, and will not let me remove it.
Microsoft’s definition of “remove” seems a bit alternative, to say the least.
Left Hand and Right Hand….
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January 10, 2021 at 1:54 am #2327982
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January 10, 2021 at 4:48 am #2328143
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January 10, 2021 at 1:56 am #2327985
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January 10, 2021 at 4:20 am #2328119
SelfMan
AskWoody LoungerAnd now please do a experiment. Run SFC /scannow in CMD as administrator.
After it finishes, check the Flash folders. Are they back? Let me know.
I am managing a lot of computers, different configs, all on 1909 and every time I run SFC, the flash is restored.
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January 10, 2021 at 4:57 pm #2328732
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January 10, 2021 at 4:57 pm #2328733
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January 10, 2021 at 5:42 pm #2328736
SelfMan
AskWoody LoungerAll the computers where it came back are on the 1909 build, so its possible that its a 1909 specific bug. The machines had the Flash installed from Adobe website, which usually installs the OCX as well as the DLL. Though OCX is/was a part of Windows10 since MS’s Integration.
I am able to reproduce the bug on both x86 and x64 systems.
One thing it might be of a fact that all the systems are Windows 7 to Windows 10 upgrades. (running fine for years mostly)
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January 10, 2021 at 5:43 pm #2328737
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January 10, 2021 at 6:02 pm #2328751
SelfMan
AskWoody LoungerI used the adobe uninstaller, I didn’t just delete the files. I, just for the sake of a test, did unregister the ocx but it made no difference.
Now I’ve run the KB4577586, which removed the files, and can now confirm that the files haven’t got back.
Problem Solved
Result: Don’t use adobe uninstaller use KB4577586
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January 10, 2021 at 8:44 am #2328344
Bruce
AskWoody PlusI have attempted to uninstall Flash several times, both via Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Programs and Features and via Adobe’s downloadable uninstaller. This seems to work, but is not permanent. Flash just keeps coming back. Also, attempts to remove the leftover four folders manually always fail with a warning that trusted installer privilege is required. Furthermore, I keep getting Adobe popups saying that a Flash update is available to be downloaded. What might be causing this failure to remove Flash? (Windows version is Win10 Pro 1909.)
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January 10, 2021 at 9:52 am #2328398
NaNoNyMouse
AskWoody LoungerAlso, attempts to remove the leftover four folders manually always fail with a warning that trusted installer privilege is required.
Running KB4577586 (a search of Woody’s will turn up a number of recent references to it) worked for me in removing those folders, as well as removing Flash from Control Panel, but it doesn’t seem to have worked for everybody
Might be worth trying, at least
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January 10, 2021 at 6:26 pm #2328774
rick41
AskWoody LoungerAlso, attempts to remove the leftover four folders manually always fail with a warning that trusted installer privilege is required.
I didn’t have that problem, though maybe that’s because I am still on Windows 7.
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January 10, 2021 at 1:55 pm #2328620
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January 10, 2021 at 1:56 pm #2328631
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January 10, 2021 at 3:17 pm #2328670
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GuestThose who use the search tool Everything.
After you uninstall Flash, open Everything and search for ‘Flash’. If it finds anything, right-click and choose ‘Open Folder’. Navigate up folder levels from there until you find the top-level folder. For some, that will be a Macromed folder but if you have any other Macromedia programs, stop below that level. Delete the applicable top level folder. Repeat for any other Everything ‘hits’. Job Done.
LEAVE REGISTRY ALONE. Registry is an indexed database. Deleting things will not improve performance and may risk trashing your system.
Presumably Chrome will take care of pepperflash. Eventually.
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January 10, 2021 at 5:46 pm #2328739
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January 10, 2021 at 5:57 pm #2328745
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AskWoody PlusAs AskWoody is not exclusively for issues related only to Windows, I am happy to let those running macOS on their Macs know, if they don’t already, that the way to eliminate Flash from their computers is to open “System Preferences” (in the drop down menu that opens when clicking on the little black apple at the very top left of the screen) and in the panel with various icons that then appears, find the “Flash” icon and delete it.
After that, open Finder/Applications and look, while scrolling down, at the list of applications and utilities in the long vertical panel that opens. The Flash one and related entries that were there before, now are all gone.
And that is it.
Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)
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January 10, 2021 at 6:18 pm #2328767
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January 10, 2021 at 7:38 pm #2328838
OscarCP
AskWoody PlusYou may need to remove all the files inside the folder first. If so, first mark all the files by pressing together the cursor and the “shift” key on the name of the top file listed inside the folder, then slide the cursor while still pressing it and “shift”, all the way to the very bottom of the list, to mark all of the file names. Then hit “delete.” After that, you can delete the empty folder.
If there is a file (or files) you don’t want to delete, move it (or them) outside the folder before deleting the rest of them.
Windows 7 Professional, SP1, x64 Group W (ex B) & macOS Mojave + Linux (Mint)
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January 10, 2021 at 10:09 pm #2329017
Tom
AskWoody PlusI’m on 2004 and uninstalled Flash last year using the Adobe uninstaller. I don’t have any Flash extensions in Chredge or Firefox so I thought it was all gone. I did follow up and looked in System32 and SysWOW64 and found a Macromedia folder with stuff still in it in both folders. So I tried deleting both folders and got the message I don’t have access rights and I need permission from System. (I logged in as admin before I tried this). So I attempted to take ownership of those folders and was again stopped while taking ownership. How do I get rid of these folders?
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January 10, 2021 at 10:12 pm #2329021
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January 10, 2021 at 10:28 pm #2329037
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January 11, 2021 at 7:04 pm #2330585
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January 11, 2021 at 7:10 pm #2330596
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January 11, 2021 at 7:30 pm #2330624
Tom
AskWoody PlusThanks. Missed that. I was looking at the bottom of the page for a NEXT and missed the top. (The top of the page was off-screen). OK. So I ran the update and checked both System32 and SysWow64 and the Macromed folder was still there. But the.ocx and .dll files were gone. There were still .log and .cfg files in a Flash folder and there were some other folders including a Temp, but no system files. So I deleted the log and cfg files without problem and was then able to delete the empty folders.
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January 11, 2021 at 7:39 pm #2330633
PKCano
ManagerThere are two parts to the Flash removal. You have to run the MS patch to clean up IE11 and Edge that MS integrated into Windows. Then you have to run the Adobe uninstaller to get rid of the ActiveX and browser plug-ins that Adobe put there.
It takes BOTH to get rid of most of Flash.
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January 11, 2021 at 7:51 am #2329638
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January 11, 2021 at 4:14 pm #2330352
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January 12, 2021 at 2:41 am #2331068
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January 12, 2021 at 7:48 pm #2332444
anonymous
GuestWhat we see above is the people who are both aware and who care. Flash must be hanging about in a lot of systems.
Sigh! I miss they simple days when thorough uninstallation was simply a matter of tossing away the floppy disk. Even the later version – click on folder and press delete worked incredibly well. Now, you use add/remove, your PC will have traces in registry, data folder, System32 folder… anywhere!
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January 13, 2021 at 3:04 am #2333691
Alex5723
AskWoody Plusclick on folder and press delete worked
This works now too. I use (only) portable apps which run from drive D (nothing on C drive).
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January 20, 2021 at 4:46 pm #2336283
Cijan
AskWoody PlusHi,
Windows 10 Home v 1909 (build 18363.1256
I’ve followed the steps in the video, and by looking through this topic in case i missed something. The steps I followed:
1.checked in all the file locations mentioned, and saw the Macromedia/Flash files in various locations.
2. ran the ‘check now’ on https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html to see where flash is enabled and if it is installed.
– Firefox (primary/default browser) and IE both showed it as installed, but disabled.
– Edge and Chrome both showed it as pre-installed, but disabled.
3. I downloaded and ran KB4577586.
4. Checked again using the adobe ‘check now’ …
– FF and IE show it as not being installed… great.
– Edge and Chrome STILL show it as being pre-installed but disabled. (Can’t find any Flash plug-in for either.)
5. Checked file locations – all previous found instances of files under Macromedia folders are gone. (Not sure where the ‘ocx’ is that people mentioned?)
I made sure ALL browsers were closed AND ran the actual downloadable uninstall program from adobe as administrator twice, followed by restarts.So why do Edge and Chrome STILL show it as being installed? Do I need to be concerned?
Is it because Cortana is hanging onto an Edge process?Has anyone actually run that ‘check now’ on the https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html website?
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