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      • #2362035
        Susan Bradley
        Manager

        (YouTube video here) So now that new Edge is out you may ask yourself … “Self? Is it wise to keep Internet Explorer 11 on my Windows 10?” Some peopl
        [See the full post at: Tasks for the weekend May 1, 2021 – How to remove IE]

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady

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      • #2362048
        E Pericoloso Sporgersi
        AskWoody Plus

        Your navigation to remove Internet Explorer doesn’t work for me (Windows 10 Home 64bit 20H2 with april’s patches). IE doesn’t show. In fact no apps at all  show up.

        I have to go to Control Panel > Programs and Features > Turn Windows features on or off > Untick Internet Explorer 11 . Here all other Windows feature apps are shown too, so watch where you (un)tick!

         


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        • #2362083
          E Pericoloso Sporgersi
          AskWoody Plus

          I have to go to Control Panel > Programs and Features > Turn Windows features on or off > Untick Internet Explorer 11 .

          I switched IE of, my computer reconfigured, restarted and completed reconfiguring.

          All my shortcuts pointing to websites were badly interfered with, and no way to restore the shortcuts to their original state. Even new shortcuts were also interfered with. My folder with a bunch of website shortcuts was irretrievably nuked.

          And twisting the knife, switching the IE feature back ON again, didn’t help at all.

          Fortunately I had a partition image. Restoring that was the only possible rescue. That took only 15 minutes. Just time to cook my Mac’n Cheese recipe: spirelli with 6-cheeses-sauce and diced pancetta, some S&P and nutmeg.


      • #2362053
        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        Some people have indicated that they proactively have removed IE from there systems

        Where?

        W10, the itch you simply cannot scratch!
      • #2362057
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        There is no way to remove IE. The “uninstall” just disable IE.

      • #2362058
        Microfix
        AskWoody MVP

        From main blog:

        So now that new Edge is out you may ask yourself … “Self? Is it wise to keep Internet Explorer 11 on my Windows 10?”

        Don’t ask yourself this, is my advice! carry on doing something else.

        If MSFT deem IE to be completely unsafe they would have removed it in a Cumulative Update by now or are currently in the process of doing so. Jumping the gun, you may get shot!

        IF they are considering an integral system shift, let them decide. There are too many conotations/ unkown factors in doing this that encompass many different scenarios.

        Instead, ask yourself this..‘what will break if I remove IE and what are the ramifications in doing so?’ security? functionality? And what of the dll’s associated that are integral to the system functionality? what other 3rd party critical software will be affected?

        I’d leave this in situ until MSFT decide, NOT a blog post that has the potential to botch up your system. After all, what is this going to achieve? miniscule freed storage space, redundancy in extraneous patches already applied over many years.

        W10, the itch you simply cannot scratch!
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        • #2362060
          Alex5723
          AskWoody Plus

          I thing the Edge’s IE Mode use some of IE11 code.

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        • #2362068
          PKCano
          Manager

          I agree completely. Don’t do this.

          If dependence on IE’s functionality had been completely fetteted out of the Operating System, Microsoft would have removed it already. People have had problems in the past just disabling it in “Turn Windows features on or off.”
          And it’s not only the OS, it’s third-party application dependence on its functionality. For example, the check reader for the bank my HomeOwner Assn. uses still requires IE11.

          I don’t understand why something like this gets put on the main page of the Blog.
          Unless maybe it’s a way to get people’s reactions. (Feedback for Microsoft? They read the quizzes and polls) It could really mess up a non-techie User who just follows the instructions and doesn’t understand the possible implications.

          Eventually, when everything works correctly without it, Microsoft will remove it from the OS. Until then, my recommendation would be to leave it be.

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          • #2362085
            sheldon
            AskWoody Plus

            I removed/disabled IE recently and found that Outlook 2016 didn’t work properly.  Put IE back and Outlook was fine.

          • #2362328
            techweenie
            AskWoody Lounger

            IETab plugin for Chrome works for all bank websites that depend on IE.  The rendering DLLs are always in the system whether IE is “installed” or not.

            • #2362342
              PKCano
              Manager

              Sorry, but the connecting software does not work in this case. It requires other settings as well. It’s not just the browser part, but the interconnecting software as well.

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            • #2362985
              PKCano
              Manager

              Here’s where I reported this problem a year ago – #2273319.

          • #2362408
            Still Anonymous
            AskWoody Lounger

            A common misunderstanding is that IE has never been “inert code”, not even now.

            There are applications that explicitly call IE (rather than the system’s default browser) to do HTML rendering, and it’s a guess that some of that is where IE is necessary to execute ActiveX scripting.

            Even though I have never voluntarily used IE, I’ve found it interesting that cleanup tools such as CCleaner often report the presence of cookies and cache content used by IE.

            I would be very hesitant to remove IE, unless I am *very* sure that there is nothing on my system that uses it surreptitiously, and I’m not sure I would even trust IE Mode in Edge.

            In the same way that we still see production systems running Windows 7, XP, Win 2000 and even Win 9x and DOS, because it’s not feasible to upgrade applications that depend on those versions, I’m going to suggest that it’s going to be a very long time before Microsoft breaks stuff that requires IE (or ActiveX) by removing them entirely from Windows.

             

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      • #2362095
        bbearren
        AskWoody MVP

        I disabled IE 11 (in “Turn Windows features on or off”) many months ago, and have yet to discover any negative consequences.

        Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
        "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
        "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

        • #2362111
          PKCano
          Manager

          But your knowledge, methods, and your systems are nowhere near the standards that apply to most of the Users here.

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          • #2362117
            bbearren
            AskWoody MVP

            But your knowledge, methods, and your systems are nowhere near the standards that apply to most of the Users here.

            On the other hand, my DIY NAS OS is fully updated Windows 10 Pro 20H2 (OS Build 19042.928) and is a plain vanilla installation other than no Microsoft account user, and driver updates disabled via Group Policy.

            The RAID Array is handled by the motherboard, not by the OS, which sees it as a single drive.  Other than not ducking and hiding updates (other than drivers), the OS installation is pretty standard vanilla Microsoft Windows 10 Pro.

            I disabled IE 11 on my NAS at the same time as my other machines, and have yet to discover any negative consequences.

            Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
            "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
            "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

          • #2362194
            Susan Bradley
            Manager

            The Lounge folks tend to be more adventuresome than the newsletter folks in my observation. 🙂

            Susan Bradley Patch Lady

            • #2362353
              bbearren
              AskWoody MVP

              The Lounge folks tend to be more adventuresome than the newsletter folks in my observation.

              FWIW, IE 11 can be completely uninstalled, but not via the steps mentioned in the OP.

              As I posted earlier, I’ve had it disabled for I-don’t-know-how-long without ill effects.  Further investigation revealed that it is not listed in Services, BCUninstaller cannot find an uninstall string (it did list it, along with the GUID for the uninstall string).

              To completely uninstall it, I opened Process Hacker and used “Run as trusted installer…” to run cmd.exe and open a Command window.  I navigated to the Program Files folder and ran “rd “internet explorer” /s /q and hit enter.  I repeated this in Program Files (x86).  I then deleted the GUID from the registry (three entries).

              After a reboot, everything is still normal.  No program that I use needed IE 11 to run.  The only place “Internet Explorer” appears is in “Turn Windows features on or off”.  With that singular exception, IE 11 is completely uninstalled, still with no ill effects.

              And since I have drive images that were created yesterday morning, I was in no danger mucking around in Windows innards.  Had anything gone awry, I was a reboot into Windows Recovery Environment and three minutes of restoring yesterday’s OS drive image away from completely undoing my changes.

              Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
              "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
              "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

              • #2362382
                PKCano
                Manager

                AH…. Now the truth comes out.
                Your removal has nothing to do with the method in this thread.
                As I said before:

                But your knowledge, methods, and your systems are nowhere near the standards that apply to most of the Users here.

              • #2362444
                bbearren
                AskWoody MVP

                Your removal has nothing to do with the method in this thread.

                I disabled IE many months ago via “Turn Windows features on or off”.  After running through the steps in the OP, no “Uninstall” was presented.

                Next, I tried to run IE 11.  Windows could not find necessary files.  One reason software won’t “uninstall” is that it is not “installed”.  Further digging into this installation revealed that IE 11, in fact, was not “installed”.  The Program Files folders were still there, but the only registry entries were for “uninstall” strings that did not exist in the targeted location.

                I completed the uninstall today, after reading “There is no way to remove IE, just disable.” in this thread.  There is indeed a way.  Moreover, the method I used is simply one of a couple that are fully capable of removing unwanted and unneeded Windows components.

                My knowledge (that is to say, knowing some Windows things are indeed possible), methods, and systems are the fruit of my determination and efforts to make the Windows OS operate the way I want it to operate, and not the other way around.

                My extensive use of drive imaging while developing my techniques makes my methodology safe and effective in ferreting out those parts of Windows that I don’t want or need, without risk to my systems.

                Again, while I have been operating with IE 11 disabled for many months (via Windows approved conventional means), I did not completely remove it until today.

                If dependence on IE’s functionality had been completely fetteted out of the Operating System, Microsoft would have removed it already.

                The fact that IE 11 was effectively uninstalled from my system (all I did today was just remove the folders in Program Files) indicates (to me, at least) that IE’s functionality has been ferreted out of the OS by Microsoft (I presume that a check was done to see if IE 11 was turned off in “Turn Windows features on or off” before the functionality was ferreted out).

                There were only three registry entries for IE, and all three referenced uninstall strings that were non-existent in my installation.

                I didn’t bother with any .dll’s, since those files can serve multiple functions within the OS, but I can verify that IE 11 in my installation was already dead before I removed the corpse.

                And that’s the truth.

                Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
                "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
                "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

              • #2362455
                b
                AskWoody MVP

                I disabled IE many months ago via “Turn Windows features on or off”.  After running through the steps in the OP, no “Uninstall” was presented.

                Uninstall-IE11

                Windows 10 Pro version 21H1 build 19043.985 + Microsoft 365 (group ASAP)

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              • #2362477
                bbearren
                AskWoody MVP

                I’ve been waiting for that.  Most obvious is the fact that your image is not taken from my PC.

                I disabled IE many months ago via “Turn Windows features on or off”. After running through the steps in the OP, no “Uninstall” was presented.

                No-Internet-Explorer

                It stands to reason that if an app is not installed, there would be no “Uninstall” button for that app.

                Turned-Off

                In the intervening months since I turned off IE 11, I presume in one (or more) of the many Windows Updates (and yes, I also install all the “Preview” updates, too) that have been installed, Windows gutted IE 11 in the registry.

                The folders and files were left in “Program Files” and “Program Files (x86)”, but the functionality was removed from the system.  The only thing I did today was to delete those folders and files; IE 11 was already dead.

                Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
                "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
                "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

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              • #2362484
                b
                AskWoody MVP

                More obvious is that if you didn’t see Uninstall, then you didn’t run through the steps in the OP as you said.

                Windows 10 Pro version 21H1 build 19043.985 + Microsoft 365 (group ASAP)

              • #2362497
                bbearren
                AskWoody MVP

                More obvious is that if you didn’t see Uninstall, then you didn’t run through the steps in the OP as you said.

                20H2 instructions:
                Open Settings.
                Click on Apps.
                Click on Apps & features.
                Then on optional features.
                Click on Internet Explorer 11 option.
                Click to Uninstall.
                Click the Restart now button.

                I’m running 20H2

                Step 1. “Open Settings” – did that step.

                Step 2. “Click on Apps” – did that step.

                Step 3. “Click on Apps & features.” – did that step.

                Step 4. “Then on optional features.” – did that step.

                Optional features has no features listed.  There is a search bar.  Typing “Internet Explorer 11” in the search bar yielded no result.  “See optional feature history” brought up a page void of features.  “More Windows features” brings up “Turn Windows features on or off”, as seen in my second graphic.

                No Internet Explorer 11 option to click on.  Scrolling down through Apps and features, Internet Explorer 11 was still not to be found. as evidenced in my first graphic.

                I went through the steps as far as my installation of Windows would take me, but there was no Internet Explorer 11 to be found.  No “Uninstall” button under “Internet Explorer 11”, because there was no functional “Internet Explorer 11” in my installation of Windows 10 Pro 20H2.

                Your installation of 20H2 is not like my installation of 20H2 in a number of ways, and direct comparisons can be quite fruitless.

                Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
                "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
                "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

      • #2362147
        CAS
        AskWoody Plus

        Susan, Quicken also requires IE.

        Peace, CAS

      • #2362167
        jayinalaska
        AskWoody Plus

        The first rule of good security is if you don’t use something/don’t need something, then uninstall it, if you can. Vulnerable software cannot be exploited if it’s not installed on your PC.

        Unfortunately, as others have said, you can’t uninstall IE11, but you can disable it, which I think is a step in the right direction. I did this ages ago, not long after I found out I could do it.

        I’m currently on Win10 20H2 Pro. I don’t see IE11 listed in Control Panel -> Programs -> Programs and Features -> Turn Windows features on or off. Nor, do I see it in Settings -> Apps -> Apps & features -> Optional features. But, if I click on “Add a feature”, Internet Explorer 11 is listed as an optional feature I can turn on, if I ever run into a use case requiring Internet Explorer 11.

        A previous poster said you need IE11 for Quicken. This might be true is you’re still running an old, no longer supported, desktop version, but it’s not true if you’re running the subscription version of Quicken. At least, I have not stumbled across a use case where subscription Quicken complained about the lack of IE11. It just opens my default browser.

      • #2362199
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        At least, I have not stumbled across a use case where subscription Quicken complained about the lack of IE11

        Who wants to subscribe to cloud software ? I don’t. If needed I want to pay once and install/use.

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      • #2362206
        Cloud
        AskWoody Plus

        Win10 – 20H2
        Just uninstalled IE11, and Outlook 2016 was then unable to open links in emails.
        Reinstalled IE11 and problem was resolved.

        • #2362220
          RetiredGeek
          AskWoody MVP

          Did you try adjusting your Default Programs? Particularly, the extensions of .html & .htm.

          HTH 😎

          May the Forces of good computing be with you!

          RG

          PowerShell & VBA Rule!
          Computer Specs

          • #2362223
            sheldon
            AskWoody Plus

            I uninstalled  IE11 too and had the same problem.  Everything that I read on the web says that IE11 has to stay for that reason.  Yes HTM and HTML not associated with IE11

        • #2362329
          techweenie
          AskWoody Lounger

          This problem is easily fixed with a file association registry fix.  The following sets the html default to Chrome.  Just save it to .reg and run.  There’s also a Microsoft FixIt available to correct this.

           

          Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

          [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.html]
          @=”ChromeHTML”
          “Content Type”=”text/html”
          “PerceivedType”=”text”

          [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.html\OpenWithProgIds]
          “ChromeHTML”=””

          [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.html\PersistentHandler]
          @=”{eec97550-47a9-11cf-b952-00aa0051fe20}”

           

      • #2362288
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        Win10 – 20H2
        Just uninstalled IE11, and Outlook 2016 was then unable to open links in emails.
        Reinstalled IE11 and problem was resolved.

        You have disabled and enabled, not uninstalled, reinstalled.

        • #2362307
          Cloud
          AskWoody Plus

          I think you are wrong, and would suggest you read and follow the guide given by Susan in ‘Tasks for the weekend May 1, 2021 – How to remove IE

          When I followed her instructions, my computer had a ‘button’ which said ‘Uninstall’.

           

      • #2362331
        techweenie
        AskWoody Lounger

        Sometimes removing the Internet Explorer features also removes your ability to reinstall it.  It disappears from the features list and can’t be selected anymore.  It can still be reinstalled if desired from the command prompt.  You’ll need install media matching the release ID of your system (ex. 2004 or 20H2).  Adjust this command to the path of your media.

         

        dism /online /add-package /packagepath:F:\sources\sxs\microsoft-windows-internetexplorer-optional-package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~.cab

      • #2362332
        Moonshine
        AskWoody Lounger

        Internet Explorer 11 is not just an obsolete, antiquated, unsafe web Browser, it also is a key component that is integrated and very tightly interlaced into Windows. That ‘part’ users don’t see because they don’t need to.’
        When the terms ‘Uninstall’ or ‘Disable’ Internet Explorer 11 are being used, I believe it is just the IE11 web interface, controls and its ability to open/associate Web Links/URLs to and with IE that is being talked about.
        Re Quickbooks, I don’t use it, but I think it is just the Browser part that is needed for it to work.
        Quickbooks, also others, will need to adapt and adapt soon to current times as IE (the Browser interface that QB is dependant on) is being made very easy to remove from Windows 10 and many are doing so for security reasons as well as it being just a lousy Browser in comparison to its modern-day counterparts.
        Most know IE has been unsafe for years and banks and financial institutions are very, very aware of what has gone on in the past and wouldn’t recommend using IE anyway. They have their own security to worry about as well as potential compensation payments if customers lawyer’s (customers with accounts that have been hacked/cleaned out) can prove that Internet Explorer was a fundamental factor in the theft/fraud/etc cases that are brought before the courts when banks/financial institutions refuse to compensate their customers because of their negligence.

        So now that new Edge is out you may ask yourself … “Self? Is it wise to keep Internet Explorer 11 on my Windows 10?”

        Perhaps a different question might have been more appropriate?

        So now that new Edge is out and with so many other secure Browsers available to use, you may ask yourself … “Self? With the exception of known programs that might rely on IE 11, is it necessary to keep IE 11, as a Browser, on my Windows 10 when I have or can have so many more secure, supported Browsers to use?”

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      • #2362351
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        follow the guide given by Susan in ‘Tasks for the weekend May 1, 2021 – How to remove IE

        Susan post header is wrong. There is no way to remove IE, just disable.

        • #2362356
          bbearren
          AskWoody MVP

          There is no way to remove IE, just disable

          Yes, there is a way to remove IE.

          Create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates, in case you need to start over!
          "When you're troubleshooting, start with the simple and proceed to the complex."—M.O. Johns
          "Experience is what you get when you're looking for something else."—Sir Thomas Robert Deware

      • #2362359
        Alex5723
        AskWoody Plus

        There is no way to remove IE, just disable

        Yes, there is a way to remove IE.

        I know there is a way by using 3rd party tools and hacking Windows, hacking registry….

      • #2362567
        rick41
        AskWoody Lounger

        It’s hard to believe, but some major information providers used by businesses still require the use of IE in lieu of any other browser.  An example is Kroll’s Factual Data, which provides consolidated consumer credit information to mortgage brokers and other potential lenders.

      • #2362609
        steeviebops
        AskWoody Lounger

        This doesn’t really remove IE in the strict sense. The Trident/MSHTML DLLs are retained because removing them would break too many applications. It’s pretty much the equivalent of deleting iexplore.exe, but it is enough to prevent it from being used.

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