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    Youtube here  Unless you’ve been’ living under a rock, you’ll know that Windows 11 is to be officially released on October 5th. We don’t know when 21H
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    • #2391847

      OK, this isn’t a good thing to read. Might be time to update a BIOS (off line for Dell, CVE-2021-21571 and CVE-2021-21572 not being much mentioned..) if you can but basically we have to hope this one goes away.. Microsoft will no doubt adjust defender rules but will that be enough? Alternatively it might mitigate some added software which isn’t to everyone’s taste.

      https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-wpbt-flaw-lets-hackers-install-rootkits-on-windows-devices/

       

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    • #2391885

      Any chance of a reg. file to defer 21H2? I do love your little reg. files!

      • #2391906

        The one for 21H1 is in AKB000016 – it includes the Windows 10 Product Version also.

        • #2391919

          Thanks so much. I plan to upgrade to 21H1 when the Defcon rating changes. I currrently have my W10 pro machine set to 20H2 by Group Policy; to make life simple, can I just run the Windows 1021H1 reg. file (as I do on my W10 Home laptop) rather than mess around with the settings? These reg. files do make life so beautifully simple.

          • #2391921

            I would use the reg file on the Home machine. But if you have Group Policy set for 20H2, you should change it in GP and add the “Windows 10” Product Version setting there too. (Check out the new setting)
            If you want to use the reg files instead, you should remove the Group Policy TRV settings and set that to “Not configured” first, before you use the reg file, so they won’t conflict.

    • #2391924

      Thanks so much again PK – that’s what I thought you’d say. I’m not sure how to add the “Windows 10” Product Version setting in Group Policy and always worried I might click in the wrong place, so when I come to update I think I’ll set Group Policy back to “Not Configured” and just use the reg. file. You can’t really go wrong with the reg. file – they’re wonderfully idiot-proof.

      • #2391925

        The Product Version is new in the same place as the TRV setting. You will see when you look at it.

    • #2391929

      Sorry – can’t find anything about a ‘Product Version’ in my Group Policy settings. May be looking in the wrong place!

      • #2391932

        Oops, sorry, the Windows Product Version setting comes with the Sept updates. (I already updated).
        Wait till you update or go ahead and set it to “Not configured” for TRV.

    • #2391935

      Ah, that explains it! At least I understand why I can’t find it now. I feel that I am getting out of my depth with Group Policy so will probably set it to “Not configured” and use the reg. file. Even I can’t really get that wrong. Maybe revert to Group Policy in the future if I get a sudden burst of confidence……………………………….Thanks again.

    • #2391965

      so will probably set it to “Not configured” and use the reg. file

      Why not just install Sept. updates ?

      • #2393251

        In the end, I decided not to be so lazy, updated my Windows 10 Pro PC and went in and edited Group Policy – and I must admit it was dead easy. Only now I have a disconcerting flag above my Windows Update settings saying in red “Some settings are managed by your organisation”; true, I suppose, but it comes across as slightly alarmist. Also, I have apparently opted into the Windows Insider Program – I wasn’t aware that I’d done that; is it a good idea? Many thanks for all the help, everyone!

        • #2393282

          …Also, I have apparently opted into the Windows Insider Program – I wasn’t aware that I’d done that; is it a good idea?…

          The Windows Insider program enables folks to preview future editions of Windows, such as Windows 11, future editions of Windows Feature Updates or even preview versions of the monthly Quality Updates before they’re made public. If you like this concept, then its a great feature to have enabled and be signed up for.

          However, if you don’t want to be the proverbial canary in the coal mine, then you might want to opt out of the insider program. To do so is just a matter of changing some settings within Group Policy to prevent you from being in the program and from inadvertently being signed up for it in the future. If you’re interested in just what these settings are and what to change them to, simply reply back to this post and we’ll let you know just what to set to which setting.

          • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 4 days ago by Bob99.
    • #2392043

      Will do when the Defcon rating changes; but I am tired of messing about with Group Policy settings when all I need to do is run a reg. file. It takes two seconds and someone else has already done the work for me (bless them). Why make life more complicated than it already is?

    • #2393257

      Only now I have a disconcerting flag above my Windows Update settings saying in red “Some settings are managed by your organisation”; true, I suppose

      The notice is due to using GPEdit. That won’t block Windows updates unless you set deferrals.
      You should set Notify download… = 2 so you can decide what, when.. to install using WUmgr.

      • #2393265

        Oh, I’ve set deferrals all right; always do. But I’ve been using Group Policy on my Windows 10 Pro machine for a while now and not had this red flag before………………..must be something to do with the Windows Product Version setting, I guess.

        • #2393266

          You don’t need deferrals. Just Notify..=2.

          not had this red flag

          It was always there after GP settings.

          • #2393288

            Not on my machine it wasn’t.

          • #2393305

            Ok to replace 21H1 with “20H2” in the regedit file?  I’m one of those forum users whose Home version says 20H2.  I deferred the update a few more days.

            Edition Windows 10 Home
            Version 20H2
            Installed on ‎11/‎27/‎2020
            OS build 19042.1165
            Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3530.0

    • #2393285

      Sorry Microsoft but this just sucks!

      DellXPS8920-Win11Comp
      Why can’t I make the decision if my CPU has enough juice?

      May the Forces of good computing be with you!

      RG

      PowerShell & VBA Rule!
      Computer Specs

    • #2393290

      Yes please, Bob, I’d appreciate instructions how to opt out. Just keep them simple! Many thanks.

      • #2393312

        In post 2393282 above (in reply to @The-Surfing-Pensioner ) I said:

        If you’re interested in just what these settings are and what to change them to, simply reply back to this post and we’ll let you know just what to set to which setting.

        Well, here’s the requested reply. I have two settings in Group Policy (GP) and one outside of GP that help keep me off the radar for the Windows Insider Program (as far as I know, anyway).

        The setting I have outside of Group Policy is to set the feedback from Windows to Microsoft to the “Required diagnostic data” level. To do this, go to Settings>Privacy. Now, select “Diagnostics & feedback” from the choices in the grey area on the left side of the window. That will bring up a screen by the same name. On that screen, there will be two settings to choose from, “Required diagnostic data” and “Optional diagnostic data”. Click on the circle for “Optional diagnostic data”, and that should be all you need to do there.

        Now, in Group Policy, go to an area you’re already somewhat familiar with, the Windows Update for Business folder in GP. As a reminder, it’s in Computer Configuration>Administrative Templates>Windows Components>Windows Update, tucked “under” the Windows Update folder.

        But first, let’s revisit a setting @Alex5723 referred to above, the Notify setting being set to 2. The actual name of this setting is “Configure Automatic Updates”, and it’s located within the actual listings/settings in the Windows Update folder of GP. Double click on it to open its options, or settings. There’s a screenshot of this in AKB2000016, at this location. Click the blue link (“this”) to be taken directly there in a new tab. As you can see in the first screenshot in that post, this is to be set to “2-Notify for download and auto install” in the first drop-down box in the “Options:” section of that window. What this will do is prevent Windows Update from automatically downloading and installing updates without telling you. You’ll have to click the “Download and Install” button (or whatever it’s called when WU is ready to download and install an update) in Windows Update to install any updates it finds on its own. Once you have set it to “2-Notify for download and auto install”, click the “OK” button at the bottom of the window to save the settings.

        OK, on to keeping you out of the Insider program. There are two settings in Group Policy that have kept me off the program thus far, and one of those settings is shown in AKB2000016. The screenshot is in the very same post I referred you to above, but it’s the second screenshot in that post. Click here to open the screenshot in a new tab where you can enlarge it to see it better. The name of the setting is “Select when Preview Builds and Feature Updates are received”. Per the instructions in the post, this should be Enabled, and in the drop-down menu on the “Options” side of the window should be showing “Semi-Annual Channel”. If it doesn’t, click on the drop-down menu to change it to that. As PK says in the text above the screenshot, you can select to defer these Feature Updates up to 365 days, but I just set the number of days to 1.  Please leave the box labeled “Pause Preview Builds or Feature Updates starting:” BLANK, DO NOT enter a date. Click OK to save the settings.

        Now, go down to the Windows Update for Business setting labeled “Manage preview builds” and double click on it to bring up its options. In this box, select the “Enabled” circle and then below that in the “Options” box, select “Disable preview builds” from the choices in the drop-down menu. Per the setting’s built-in help/description:

        Selecting “Disable preview builds” will prevent preview builds from installing on the device. This will prevent users from opting into the Windows Insider Program, through Settings -> Update and Security.

        Once you’ve set this option in the drop-down menu, simple click the OK button to save the setting. This will keep you from inadvertently being signed up for the Windows Insider program in the future, unless Microsoft decides they know better than we about what should be on our machines. 😉

        I believe these settings will also opt you out of the insider program currently as well. If I’m incorrect @PKCano , @sb , @b , @EP , or any of the other MVPs here, please feel free to correct me/this sentence.

        Any further ??s, please start a new thread, as this is off topic for this thread. I put my response here for the sake of simplicity in finding it. Any further discussion of being put into the Windows Insider program inadvertently, or avoiding such fate, merits being on its own thread. My apologies to the Mods/Managers.

        • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 4 days ago by Bob99. Reason: Added warning about being off-topic for this thread
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        • #2393374

          Thanks so much for all this info’, Bob, which is really appreciated! I have been hesitant using Group Policy because I wasn’t totally sure what I was doing before and conscious that the wrong settings might have disastrous results. These instructions could not be clearer.

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